Losing interest in all things WLS related

[Guest guest]

Hey gang,

I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking about

WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as a

" normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly into

the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me to

take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

after that, but I don't always do it that way.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy? Maybe

someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just need

ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

Thanks for being there for me.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

5'10 "

[Guest guest]

I could have written this post myself! I have dropped off some of my lists,

but still participate in the grad list because I don't have to listen to the

same old " Will my hair fall out? " questions and because I get good info

here. I'm on one other list that has lots of newbies, but I have made

several wonderful friends there, and it's local, so we actually get together

for lunches and such...so it's fun.

I get tired of the same old questions, and I don't post as often as I used

to either.....I too have reached my goal (2.5 yrs out, from 306 to 146, size

26/28 now to 8/10) and I have no problem with sugar, fats, etc. I try not to

go to extremes, but I do eat junk that isn't " good " for me. However, my

philosophy is that I will never " diet " again, because that implies a

forbidden relationship with certain foods, which then makes them all the

more attractive to me. " I'm the chocolate cake your mother warned you about "

sort of thing...ya know??

I stay on the lists because I've always heard that the people who are

successful, long-term, are the ones who participate in support groups, it's

the " backsliders " who fall away. Hey, I don't want that to be me, so here I

am. But sometimes it gets " tiresome " . I sometimes forget that I was ever

obese, and I am irritated when people ask me if I'm still losing or

whatever, then other times I still find myself showing my before/after

pics.....funny, huh? I think maybe I just have a split personality.

Anyway, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Thanks for sharing.

KC

Kathy Carl

Chrysalis

E-mail: chrysalis@...

Losing interest in all things WLS related

Hey gang,

I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking

about

WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as

a

" normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly

into

the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me

to

take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

after that, but I don't always do it that way.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

Maybe

someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just

need

ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

Thanks for being there for me.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

I could have written this post myself! I have dropped off some of my lists,

but still participate in the grad list because I don't have to listen to the

same old " Will my hair fall out? " questions and because I get good info

here. I'm on one other list that has lots of newbies, but I have made

several wonderful friends there, and it's local, so we actually get together

for lunches and such...so it's fun.

I get tired of the same old questions, and I don't post as often as I used

to either.....I too have reached my goal (2.5 yrs out, from 306 to 146, size

26/28 now to 8/10) and I have no problem with sugar, fats, etc. I try not to

go to extremes, but I do eat junk that isn't " good " for me. However, my

philosophy is that I will never " diet " again, because that implies a

forbidden relationship with certain foods, which then makes them all the

more attractive to me. " I'm the chocolate cake your mother warned you about "

sort of thing...ya know??

I stay on the lists because I've always heard that the people who are

successful, long-term, are the ones who participate in support groups, it's

the " backsliders " who fall away. Hey, I don't want that to be me, so here I

am. But sometimes it gets " tiresome " . I sometimes forget that I was ever

obese, and I am irritated when people ask me if I'm still losing or

whatever, then other times I still find myself showing my before/after

pics.....funny, huh? I think maybe I just have a split personality.

Anyway, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Thanks for sharing.

KC

Kathy Carl

Chrysalis

E-mail: chrysalis@...

Losing interest in all things WLS related

Hey gang,

I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking

about

WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as

a

" normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly

into

the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me

to

take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

after that, but I don't always do it that way.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

Maybe

someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just

need

ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

Thanks for being there for me.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

I could have written this post myself! I have dropped off some of my lists,

but still participate in the grad list because I don't have to listen to the

same old " Will my hair fall out? " questions and because I get good info

here. I'm on one other list that has lots of newbies, but I have made

several wonderful friends there, and it's local, so we actually get together

for lunches and such...so it's fun.

I get tired of the same old questions, and I don't post as often as I used

to either.....I too have reached my goal (2.5 yrs out, from 306 to 146, size

26/28 now to 8/10) and I have no problem with sugar, fats, etc. I try not to

go to extremes, but I do eat junk that isn't " good " for me. However, my

philosophy is that I will never " diet " again, because that implies a

forbidden relationship with certain foods, which then makes them all the

more attractive to me. " I'm the chocolate cake your mother warned you about "

sort of thing...ya know??

I stay on the lists because I've always heard that the people who are

successful, long-term, are the ones who participate in support groups, it's

the " backsliders " who fall away. Hey, I don't want that to be me, so here I

am. But sometimes it gets " tiresome " . I sometimes forget that I was ever

obese, and I am irritated when people ask me if I'm still losing or

whatever, then other times I still find myself showing my before/after

pics.....funny, huh? I think maybe I just have a split personality.

Anyway, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Thanks for sharing.

KC

Kathy Carl

Chrysalis

E-mail: chrysalis@...

Losing interest in all things WLS related

Hey gang,

I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking

about

WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as

a

" normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly

into

the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me

to

take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

after that, but I don't always do it that way.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

Maybe

someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just

need

ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

Thanks for being there for me.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I had surgery exactly 1 day before you. If anything, my

experience has been the opposite of yours.

In the beginning I didn't attend support groups or go on-line.

However, as time went on I found I needed support more, not less. I

visit obesityhelp.com and my wls yahoo groups now more than ever.

Dealing with life as a " normie " is harder than I expected,

especially the social aspect. Having never been a normal size in my

entire adult life I find that aspect to be the most difficult.

I still find it fascinating reading about other people's journeys

and still receive quite a few emails asking questions regarding wls.

I also am afraid of " backsliding " . I've been eating terribly these

past 2 months & know it was just sheer luck that I didn't gain any

weight. Reading the postings helps to keep me motivated.

Happy New Year Ya'll,

Lori

fobi pouch

5/30/00 291lbs 30/32

now 140lbs 6/8

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19

months

> post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for

the last

> month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about,

thinking about

> WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now

unsubscribed from

> many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has

become very

> low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no

one who

> attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that

I'm " skinny "

> and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me

until

> they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can

now " pass " as a

> " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I

know that

> some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I

feel like

> there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off

of the

> tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who

have

> succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade

quietly into

> the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me,

but I HAVE

> also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I

workout 6

> days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to

FORCE me to

> take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food

habits are

> wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to

my intense

> exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein

supplements

> after that, but I don't always do it that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe

empathy? Maybe

> someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been

much of a

> lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I

just need

> ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often

lately.

> Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I had surgery exactly 1 day before you. If anything, my

experience has been the opposite of yours.

In the beginning I didn't attend support groups or go on-line.

However, as time went on I found I needed support more, not less. I

visit obesityhelp.com and my wls yahoo groups now more than ever.

Dealing with life as a " normie " is harder than I expected,

especially the social aspect. Having never been a normal size in my

entire adult life I find that aspect to be the most difficult.

I still find it fascinating reading about other people's journeys

and still receive quite a few emails asking questions regarding wls.

I also am afraid of " backsliding " . I've been eating terribly these

past 2 months & know it was just sheer luck that I didn't gain any

weight. Reading the postings helps to keep me motivated.

Happy New Year Ya'll,

Lori

fobi pouch

5/30/00 291lbs 30/32

now 140lbs 6/8

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19

months

> post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for

the last

> month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about,

thinking about

> WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now

unsubscribed from

> many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has

become very

> low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no

one who

> attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that

I'm " skinny "

> and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me

until

> they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can

now " pass " as a

> " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I

know that

> some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I

feel like

> there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off

of the

> tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who

have

> succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade

quietly into

> the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me,

but I HAVE

> also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I

workout 6

> days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to

FORCE me to

> take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food

habits are

> wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to

my intense

> exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein

supplements

> after that, but I don't always do it that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe

empathy? Maybe

> someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been

much of a

> lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I

just need

> ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often

lately.

> Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

[Guest guest]

Beth- I do relate to a lot of what you say. At 20 months out I have other

things on my mind and precious little time to spend on the various support

lists. All the surgery talk does get to be a drag at times. I have tapered

my support group meeting attendance to just every couple of months. When I

open my e-mail box and find well over 100 e-mails to wade through the

temptation to unsub is STRONG! And this happens every damn day. LOL

But I can't bring myself to just out and out quit because I really feel that

would make it soooooo easy to get off track. Not only that, but I also

remember how much it meant to me as a newbie to see the far out post op's. I

have a sense of obligation to make myself available to them.

The truth is that I'm not, nor will I EVER be normal! I had a surgical

procedure which has forever altered my body and my life. If I want to insure

that I continue to live this " magical " existance, I need to not lose sight

of what got me here.

So...I will stay tuned until further notice....

A. in Indy

4 measly lbs. from goal!

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[Guest guest]

Beth- I do relate to a lot of what you say. At 20 months out I have other

things on my mind and precious little time to spend on the various support

lists. All the surgery talk does get to be a drag at times. I have tapered

my support group meeting attendance to just every couple of months. When I

open my e-mail box and find well over 100 e-mails to wade through the

temptation to unsub is STRONG! And this happens every damn day. LOL

But I can't bring myself to just out and out quit because I really feel that

would make it soooooo easy to get off track. Not only that, but I also

remember how much it meant to me as a newbie to see the far out post op's. I

have a sense of obligation to make myself available to them.

The truth is that I'm not, nor will I EVER be normal! I had a surgical

procedure which has forever altered my body and my life. If I want to insure

that I continue to live this " magical " existance, I need to not lose sight

of what got me here.

So...I will stay tuned until further notice....

A. in Indy

4 measly lbs. from goal!

_________________________________________________________________

Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

http://www.hotmail.com

[Guest guest]

Beth- I do relate to a lot of what you say. At 20 months out I have other

things on my mind and precious little time to spend on the various support

lists. All the surgery talk does get to be a drag at times. I have tapered

my support group meeting attendance to just every couple of months. When I

open my e-mail box and find well over 100 e-mails to wade through the

temptation to unsub is STRONG! And this happens every damn day. LOL

But I can't bring myself to just out and out quit because I really feel that

would make it soooooo easy to get off track. Not only that, but I also

remember how much it meant to me as a newbie to see the far out post op's. I

have a sense of obligation to make myself available to them.

The truth is that I'm not, nor will I EVER be normal! I had a surgical

procedure which has forever altered my body and my life. If I want to insure

that I continue to live this " magical " existance, I need to not lose sight

of what got me here.

So...I will stay tuned until further notice....

A. in Indy

4 measly lbs. from goal!

_________________________________________________________________

Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

http://www.hotmail.com

[Guest guest]

Beth,

I feel the same way. The people who are new to research seem to ask the same

things over and over, like is there pain, will I lose my hair, etc.

The people who JUST had the surgery are always the same : protein powders,

how much water, I'm I losing the right amount?

People who are longer post seems to talk about sizes, who can't believe how

much and about plastic surgery.

I'm at the plastic surgery phase.

So I made a FAQ on my webpage that answers the newbies and point them to

that.

But after say 18months you are no longer a fat person, you are a person. And

your interest change from losing weight to whatever else is happening in

your life.

I'm sure people who need organ transplants are like this too.

-Tom

> Message: 5

> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:50:05 EST

> From: BethVBG@...

> Subject: Losing interest in all things WLS related

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

> post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

> month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking about

> WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

> many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

> low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

> attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

> and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

> they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as a

> " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

> some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

> there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

> tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

> succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly into

> the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

> also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

> days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me to

> take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

> wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

> exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

> after that, but I don't always do it that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy? Maybe

> someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

> lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just need

> ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

> Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

[Guest guest]

Beth,

I feel the same way. The people who are new to research seem to ask the same

things over and over, like is there pain, will I lose my hair, etc.

The people who JUST had the surgery are always the same : protein powders,

how much water, I'm I losing the right amount?

People who are longer post seems to talk about sizes, who can't believe how

much and about plastic surgery.

I'm at the plastic surgery phase.

So I made a FAQ on my webpage that answers the newbies and point them to

that.

But after say 18months you are no longer a fat person, you are a person. And

your interest change from losing weight to whatever else is happening in

your life.

I'm sure people who need organ transplants are like this too.

-Tom

> Message: 5

> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:50:05 EST

> From: BethVBG@...

> Subject: Losing interest in all things WLS related

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19 months

> post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found for the last

> month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading about, thinking about

> WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc. etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now unsubscribed from

> many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked questions " has become very

> low. I'm the leader of our local support group, but there is no one who

> attends that is as far post op as I am. Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny "

> and new members sometimes seem slightly " put off " when they meet me until

> they see my " before " picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now " pass " as a

> " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a backslide. I know that

> some bad habits have found their way back to me and some days I feel like

> there's a train coming at the end of the tunnel but I can't get off of the

> tracks. Are long term post ops who leave the WLS scene people who have

> succeeded and stay that way, or are they people who want to fade quietly into

> the woodwork so they can return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I HAVE

> also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I workout 6

> days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer has to FORCE me to

> take days off! Who would have ever thought that?? My good food habits are

> wavering a bit, some coming from my increased caloric need due to my intense

> exercise. I know that I should just be throwing more protein supplements

> after that, but I don't always do it that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy? Maybe

> someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been much of a

> lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all! Perhaps I just need

> ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been having so often lately.

> Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/3/2002 6:03:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

vt_rita@... writes:

> We (the post ops) had a chat here at the holiday party and agreed that we

> did not get what we need at these meetings.

Rita, my surgeon recently changed his format to include a post-op only

meeting one hour before the regular group meeting. This seems to be working

really well, and both he and his nurse or assistant then attend both

meetings, and the post-ops who are so inclined can then go to the general

meeting if they want to provide some support to pre-ops.

Kate

(who doesn't actually go the meetings)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/3/2002 6:03:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

vt_rita@... writes:

> We (the post ops) had a chat here at the holiday party and agreed that we

> did not get what we need at these meetings.

Rita, my surgeon recently changed his format to include a post-op only

meeting one hour before the regular group meeting. This seems to be working

really well, and both he and his nurse or assistant then attend both

meetings, and the post-ops who are so inclined can then go to the general

meeting if they want to provide some support to pre-ops.

Kate

(who doesn't actually go the meetings)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/3/2002 6:03:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

vt_rita@... writes:

> We (the post ops) had a chat here at the holiday party and agreed that we

> did not get what we need at these meetings.

Rita, my surgeon recently changed his format to include a post-op only

meeting one hour before the regular group meeting. This seems to be working

really well, and both he and his nurse or assistant then attend both

meetings, and the post-ops who are so inclined can then go to the general

meeting if they want to provide some support to pre-ops.

Kate

(who doesn't actually go the meetings)

[Guest guest]

THis is exactly why we are starting a post op support

group locally. We (the post ops) had a chat here at

the holiday party and agreed that we did not get what

we need at these meetings. The nutritionist talks,

the medical folks but the post ops get very little

opportunity to share and chat. And some come from 2-3

hours away. We are starting a meeting on Saturday

after noons, 2 weeks after the support mtg the surgeon

does so we have our chance to talk. Hope it takes

off.

I also hope the surgeon will come every so often to

talk to us and maybe we can get the PS to come too.

Rita in Vermont

--- Joe Cunningham joetul@...> wrote:

> A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops

> don’t attend his

> " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> monthly.

> Can we say in-person infomercial?

> It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> surgeon doesn’t get it)

> to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> are a waste of time

> for postops.

> After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> as a postop you are

> just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> the last thing you

> want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> questions that have

> been asked and answered time and time again to the

> point that you can

> recite the response by heart.

> If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its

> pretty much a

> foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> consistently attend

> are those that are recent postops.

>

> Joe Cunningham

>

>

> Losing interest in all things WLS related

> >

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> out there. I'm 19

> > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> weight. I have found

> > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> talking about, reading

> > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> supplements, etc. etc.

> > etc.

> >

> > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> I've now

> > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> " frequently asked

> > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> our local support

> > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> far post op as I am.

>

> > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> members sometimes seem

> > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> see my " before "

> > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> them?).

> >

> > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> someone who can now

> > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> beginning of a

> > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> their way back to

> > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> coming at the end of the

> > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> long term post ops who

> > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> stay that way, or

> > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> woodwork so they can

>

> > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> >

> > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> way back to me, but I

>

> > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> sticking with me. I

> > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> ever thought that??

>

> > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> coming from my increased

> > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> that I should just be

>

> > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> I don't always do it

>

> > that way.

> >

> > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> advice, maybe empathy?

>

> > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> scene? I've never been

>

> > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> hand into it all!

> > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> thoughts that I've been

> > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> me.

> >

> > Beth

> > Houston, TX

> > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > 5'10 "

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

THis is exactly why we are starting a post op support

group locally. We (the post ops) had a chat here at

the holiday party and agreed that we did not get what

we need at these meetings. The nutritionist talks,

the medical folks but the post ops get very little

opportunity to share and chat. And some come from 2-3

hours away. We are starting a meeting on Saturday

after noons, 2 weeks after the support mtg the surgeon

does so we have our chance to talk. Hope it takes

off.

I also hope the surgeon will come every so often to

talk to us and maybe we can get the PS to come too.

Rita in Vermont

--- Joe Cunningham joetul@...> wrote:

> A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops

> don’t attend his

> " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> monthly.

> Can we say in-person infomercial?

> It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> surgeon doesn’t get it)

> to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> are a waste of time

> for postops.

> After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> as a postop you are

> just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> the last thing you

> want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> questions that have

> been asked and answered time and time again to the

> point that you can

> recite the response by heart.

> If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its

> pretty much a

> foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> consistently attend

> are those that are recent postops.

>

> Joe Cunningham

>

>

> Losing interest in all things WLS related

> >

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> out there. I'm 19

> > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> weight. I have found

> > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> talking about, reading

> > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> supplements, etc. etc.

> > etc.

> >

> > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> I've now

> > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> " frequently asked

> > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> our local support

> > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> far post op as I am.

>

> > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> members sometimes seem

> > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> see my " before "

> > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> them?).

> >

> > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> someone who can now

> > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> beginning of a

> > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> their way back to

> > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> coming at the end of the

> > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> long term post ops who

> > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> stay that way, or

> > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> woodwork so they can

>

> > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> >

> > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> way back to me, but I

>

> > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> sticking with me. I

> > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> ever thought that??

>

> > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> coming from my increased

> > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> that I should just be

>

> > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> I don't always do it

>

> > that way.

> >

> > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> advice, maybe empathy?

>

> > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> scene? I've never been

>

> > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> hand into it all!

> > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> thoughts that I've been

> > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> me.

> >

> > Beth

> > Houston, TX

> > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > 5'10 "

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

THis is exactly why we are starting a post op support

group locally. We (the post ops) had a chat here at

the holiday party and agreed that we did not get what

we need at these meetings. The nutritionist talks,

the medical folks but the post ops get very little

opportunity to share and chat. And some come from 2-3

hours away. We are starting a meeting on Saturday

after noons, 2 weeks after the support mtg the surgeon

does so we have our chance to talk. Hope it takes

off.

I also hope the surgeon will come every so often to

talk to us and maybe we can get the PS to come too.

Rita in Vermont

--- Joe Cunningham joetul@...> wrote:

> A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops

> don’t attend his

> " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> monthly.

> Can we say in-person infomercial?

> It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> surgeon doesn’t get it)

> to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> are a waste of time

> for postops.

> After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> as a postop you are

> just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> the last thing you

> want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> questions that have

> been asked and answered time and time again to the

> point that you can

> recite the response by heart.

> If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its

> pretty much a

> foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> consistently attend

> are those that are recent postops.

>

> Joe Cunningham

>

>

> Losing interest in all things WLS related

> >

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> out there. I'm 19

> > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> weight. I have found

> > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> talking about, reading

> > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> supplements, etc. etc.

> > etc.

> >

> > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> I've now

> > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> " frequently asked

> > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> our local support

> > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> far post op as I am.

>

> > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> members sometimes seem

> > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> see my " before "

> > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> them?).

> >

> > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> someone who can now

> > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> beginning of a

> > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> their way back to

> > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> coming at the end of the

> > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> long term post ops who

> > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> stay that way, or

> > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> woodwork so they can

>

> > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> >

> > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> way back to me, but I

>

> > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> sticking with me. I

> > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> ever thought that??

>

> > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> coming from my increased

> > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> that I should just be

>

> > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> I don't always do it

>

> > that way.

> >

> > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> advice, maybe empathy?

>

> > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> scene? I've never been

>

> > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> hand into it all!

> > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> thoughts that I've been

> > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> me.

> >

> > Beth

> > Houston, TX

> > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > 5'10 "

>

>

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops don’t attend his

" Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions monthly.

Can we say in-person infomercial?

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric surgeon doesn’t get it)

to figure out that many of these " support groups " are a waste of time

for postops.

After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and as a postop you are

just trudging through day to day doing your best, the last thing you

want to do is waste another hour or so listening to questions that have

been asked and answered time and time again to the point that you can

recite the response by heart.

If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its pretty much a

foregone conclusion that the only postops that will consistently attend

are those that are recent postops.

Joe Cunningham

Losing interest in all things WLS related

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19

> months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found

> for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading

> about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc.

> etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now

> unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked

> questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of our local support

> group, but there is no one who attends that is as far post op as I am.

> Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new members sometimes seem

> slightly " put off " when they meet me until they see my " before "

> picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now

> " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a

> backslide. I know that some bad habits have found their way back to

> me and some days I feel like there's a train coming at the end of the

> tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are long term post ops who

> leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and stay that way, or

> are they people who want to fade quietly into the woodwork so they can

> return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I

> HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I

> workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer

> has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have ever thought that??

> My good food habits are wavering a bit, some coming from my increased

> caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know that I should just be

> throwing more protein supplements after that, but I don't always do it

> that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

> Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been

> much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all!

> Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been

> having so often lately. Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops don’t attend his

" Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions monthly.

Can we say in-person infomercial?

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric surgeon doesn’t get it)

to figure out that many of these " support groups " are a waste of time

for postops.

After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and as a postop you are

just trudging through day to day doing your best, the last thing you

want to do is waste another hour or so listening to questions that have

been asked and answered time and time again to the point that you can

recite the response by heart.

If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its pretty much a

foregone conclusion that the only postops that will consistently attend

are those that are recent postops.

Joe Cunningham

Losing interest in all things WLS related

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19

> months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found

> for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading

> about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc.

> etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now

> unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked

> questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of our local support

> group, but there is no one who attends that is as far post op as I am.

> Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new members sometimes seem

> slightly " put off " when they meet me until they see my " before "

> picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now

> " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a

> backslide. I know that some bad habits have found their way back to

> me and some days I feel like there's a train coming at the end of the

> tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are long term post ops who

> leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and stay that way, or

> are they people who want to fade quietly into the woodwork so they can

> return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I

> HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I

> workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer

> has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have ever thought that??

> My good food habits are wavering a bit, some coming from my increased

> caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know that I should just be

> throwing more protein supplements after that, but I don't always do it

> that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

> Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been

> much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all!

> Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been

> having so often lately. Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

A local surgeon doesn’t understand why more post-ops don’t attend his

" Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions monthly.

Can we say in-person infomercial?

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric surgeon doesn’t get it)

to figure out that many of these " support groups " are a waste of time

for postops.

After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and as a postop you are

just trudging through day to day doing your best, the last thing you

want to do is waste another hour or so listening to questions that have

been asked and answered time and time again to the point that you can

recite the response by heart.

If a Dr doesn’t do a postop ONLY support group, its pretty much a

foregone conclusion that the only postops that will consistently attend

are those that are recent postops.

Joe Cunningham

Losing interest in all things WLS related

>

> Hey gang,

>

> I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else out there. I'm 19

> months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal weight. I have found

> for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of talking about, reading

> about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein supplements, etc. etc.

> etc.

>

> I used to post very frequently to several lists. I've now

> unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for " frequently asked

> questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of our local support

> group, but there is no one who attends that is as far post op as I am.

> Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new members sometimes seem

> slightly " put off " when they meet me until they see my " before "

> picture (I guess they think I can't relate to them?).

>

> I don't know if this is just part of becoming someone who can now

> " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the beginning of a

> backslide. I know that some bad habits have found their way back to

> me and some days I feel like there's a train coming at the end of the

> tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are long term post ops who

> leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and stay that way, or

> are they people who want to fade quietly into the woodwork so they can

> return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

>

> I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their way back to me, but I

> HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be sticking with me. I

> workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a trainer. LOL, my trainer

> has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have ever thought that??

> My good food habits are wavering a bit, some coming from my increased

> caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know that I should just be

> throwing more protein supplements after that, but I don't always do it

> that way.

>

> I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not advice, maybe empathy?

> Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the scene? I've never been

> much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and hand into it all!

> Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these thoughts that I've been

> having so often lately. Thanks for being there for me.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> 5'10 "

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

This is what we were supposed to do but the

Nutritionist talks to the preops for the first hour

(required meeting for preops) and then the 2nd hour

the post ops come but they kinda slid away from

that...

Rita

--- kateseidel@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/2002 6:03:08 AM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> vt_rita@... writes:

>

> > We (the post ops) had a chat here at the holiday

> party and agreed that we

> > did not get what we need at these meetings.

>

> Rita, my surgeon recently changed his format to

> include a post-op only

> meeting one hour before the regular group meeting.

> This seems to be working

> really well, and both he and his nurse or assistant

> then attend both

> meetings, and the post-ops who are so inclined can

> then go to the general

> meeting if they want to provide some support to

> pre-ops.

>

> Kate

> (who doesn't actually go the meetings)

>

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Rita and all other grads in grad land,

My support group meets every tuesday at 7pm here in Pasadena, CA.

We have a moderator that controls the meeting and we usually discuss

any questions the pre and new post ops have. Usually there are very

little questions from the " grads " (1 year out or more) as there are

only 3 that attend regularly. We usually have a doctor that also

attends. Sometimes we have some specialist that comes, too. Once,

it was a plastic surgeon and he didn't pull any punches. Very good

information.

I just thought I would let you know that maybe you may want to

consider having more than one a month. We also have the informative

Symopsium where the docs get up and do their speil about the surgery

they perform. Luckily, they put it in laymans terms for us. At the

end of this symposium, the post ops go up and are asked various

questions from all the pre-ops on any subject.

Rick

> > A local surgeon doesn't understand why more post-ops

> > don't attend his

> > " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> > monthly.

> > Can we say in-person infomercial?

> > It doesn't take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> > surgeon doesn't get it)

> > to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> > are a waste of time

> > for postops.

> > After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> > as a postop you are

> > just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> > the last thing you

> > want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> > questions that have

> > been asked and answered time and time again to the

> > point that you can

> > recite the response by heart.

> > If a Dr doesn't do a postop ONLY support group, its

> > pretty much a

> > foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> > consistently attend

> > are those that are recent postops.

> >

> > Joe Cunningham

> >

> >

> > Losing interest in all things WLS related

> > >

> > > Hey gang,

> > >

> > > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> > out there. I'm 19

> > > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> > weight. I have found

> > > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> > talking about, reading

> > > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> > supplements, etc. etc.

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> > I've now

> > > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> > " frequently asked

> > > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> > our local support

> > > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> > far post op as I am.

> >

> > > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> > members sometimes seem

> > > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> > see my " before "

> > > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> > them?).

> > >

> > > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> > someone who can now

> > > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> > beginning of a

> > > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> > their way back to

> > > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> > coming at the end of the

> > > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> > long term post ops who

> > > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> > stay that way, or

> > > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> > woodwork so they can

> >

> > > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> > >

> > > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> > way back to me, but I

> >

> > > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> > sticking with me. I

> > > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> > trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> > ever thought that??

> >

> > > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> > coming from my increased

> > > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> > that I should just be

> >

> > > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> > I don't always do it

> >

> > > that way.

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> > advice, maybe empathy?

> >

> > > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> > scene? I've never been

> >

> > > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> > hand into it all!

> > > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> > thoughts that I've been

> > > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> > me.

> > >

> > > Beth

> > > Houston, TX

> > > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > > 5'10 "

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage:

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe:

> > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rita and all other grads in grad land,

My support group meets every tuesday at 7pm here in Pasadena, CA.

We have a moderator that controls the meeting and we usually discuss

any questions the pre and new post ops have. Usually there are very

little questions from the " grads " (1 year out or more) as there are

only 3 that attend regularly. We usually have a doctor that also

attends. Sometimes we have some specialist that comes, too. Once,

it was a plastic surgeon and he didn't pull any punches. Very good

information.

I just thought I would let you know that maybe you may want to

consider having more than one a month. We also have the informative

Symopsium where the docs get up and do their speil about the surgery

they perform. Luckily, they put it in laymans terms for us. At the

end of this symposium, the post ops go up and are asked various

questions from all the pre-ops on any subject.

Rick

> > A local surgeon doesn't understand why more post-ops

> > don't attend his

> > " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> > monthly.

> > Can we say in-person infomercial?

> > It doesn't take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> > surgeon doesn't get it)

> > to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> > are a waste of time

> > for postops.

> > After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> > as a postop you are

> > just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> > the last thing you

> > want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> > questions that have

> > been asked and answered time and time again to the

> > point that you can

> > recite the response by heart.

> > If a Dr doesn't do a postop ONLY support group, its

> > pretty much a

> > foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> > consistently attend

> > are those that are recent postops.

> >

> > Joe Cunningham

> >

> >

> > Losing interest in all things WLS related

> > >

> > > Hey gang,

> > >

> > > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> > out there. I'm 19

> > > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> > weight. I have found

> > > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> > talking about, reading

> > > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> > supplements, etc. etc.

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> > I've now

> > > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> > " frequently asked

> > > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> > our local support

> > > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> > far post op as I am.

> >

> > > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> > members sometimes seem

> > > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> > see my " before "

> > > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> > them?).

> > >

> > > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> > someone who can now

> > > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> > beginning of a

> > > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> > their way back to

> > > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> > coming at the end of the

> > > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> > long term post ops who

> > > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> > stay that way, or

> > > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> > woodwork so they can

> >

> > > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> > >

> > > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> > way back to me, but I

> >

> > > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> > sticking with me. I

> > > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> > trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> > ever thought that??

> >

> > > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> > coming from my increased

> > > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> > that I should just be

> >

> > > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> > I don't always do it

> >

> > > that way.

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> > advice, maybe empathy?

> >

> > > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> > scene? I've never been

> >

> > > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> > hand into it all!

> > > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> > thoughts that I've been

> > > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> > me.

> > >

> > > Beth

> > > Houston, TX

> > > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > > 5'10 "

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage:

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe:

> > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rita and all other grads in grad land,

My support group meets every tuesday at 7pm here in Pasadena, CA.

We have a moderator that controls the meeting and we usually discuss

any questions the pre and new post ops have. Usually there are very

little questions from the " grads " (1 year out or more) as there are

only 3 that attend regularly. We usually have a doctor that also

attends. Sometimes we have some specialist that comes, too. Once,

it was a plastic surgeon and he didn't pull any punches. Very good

information.

I just thought I would let you know that maybe you may want to

consider having more than one a month. We also have the informative

Symopsium where the docs get up and do their speil about the surgery

they perform. Luckily, they put it in laymans terms for us. At the

end of this symposium, the post ops go up and are asked various

questions from all the pre-ops on any subject.

Rick

> > A local surgeon doesn't understand why more post-ops

> > don't attend his

> > " Support Group " aka Pre-op Informational sessions

> > monthly.

> > Can we say in-person infomercial?

> > It doesn't take a brain surgeon (but a bariatric

> > surgeon doesn't get it)

> > to figure out that many of these " support groups "

> > are a waste of time

> > for postops.

> > After the novelty of being a recent postop dies and

> > as a postop you are

> > just trudging through day to day doing your best,

> > the last thing you

> > want to do is waste another hour or so listening to

> > questions that have

> > been asked and answered time and time again to the

> > point that you can

> > recite the response by heart.

> > If a Dr doesn't do a postop ONLY support group, its

> > pretty much a

> > foregone conclusion that the only postops that will

> > consistently attend

> > are those that are recent postops.

> >

> > Joe Cunningham

> >

> >

> > Losing interest in all things WLS related

> > >

> > > Hey gang,

> > >

> > > I'm curious if this is happening to anyone else

> > out there. I'm 19

> > > months post op VBG and " close enough " to goal

> > weight. I have found

> > > for the last month or so that I'm so TIRED of

> > talking about, reading

> > > about, thinking about WLS, vitamins, protein

> > supplements, etc. etc.

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > I used to post very frequently to several lists.

> > I've now

> > > unsubscribed from many of them. My tolerance for

> > " frequently asked

> > > questions " has become very low. I'm the leader of

> > our local support

> > > group, but there is no one who attends that is as

> > far post op as I am.

> >

> > > Everyone tells me that I'm " skinny " and new

> > members sometimes seem

> > > slightly " put off " when they meet me until they

> > see my " before "

> > > picture (I guess they think I can't relate to

> > them?).

> > >

> > > I don't know if this is just part of becoming

> > someone who can now

> > > " pass " as a " normie. " What I FEAR is that is the

> > beginning of a

> > > backslide. I know that some bad habits have found

> > their way back to

> > > me and some days I feel like there's a train

> > coming at the end of the

> > > tunnel but I can't get off of the tracks. Are

> > long term post ops who

> > > leave the WLS scene people who have succeeded and

> > stay that way, or

> > > are they people who want to fade quietly into the

> > woodwork so they can

> >

> > > return to their " old ways " unnoticed?

> > >

> > > I mentioned some of the bad habits finding their

> > way back to me, but I

> >

> > > HAVE also found new GOOD habits that seem to be

> > sticking with me. I

> > > workout 6 days a week, twice a week with a

> > trainer. LOL, my trainer

> > > has to FORCE me to take days off! Who would have

> > ever thought that??

> >

> > > My good food habits are wavering a bit, some

> > coming from my increased

> > > caloric need due to my intense exercise. I know

> > that I should just be

> >

> > > throwing more protein supplements after that, but

> > I don't always do it

> >

> > > that way.

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what I'm looking for, probably not

> > advice, maybe empathy?

> >

> > > Maybe someone to " bless " my departure from the

> > scene? I've never been

> >

> > > much of a lurker before.. always had my nose and

> > hand into it all!

> > > Perhaps I just need ears to listen to these

> > thoughts that I've been

> > > having so often lately. Thanks for being there for

> > me.

> > >

> > > Beth

> > > Houston, TX

> > > VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> > > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> > > 11/12/01 - 170 lbs.

> > > 5'10 "

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage:

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe:

> > mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >