RE: Your ignorance is still afoot

[Guest guest]

Again folks......the horse is beyond dead!!! Let's move on! This subject

has nothing to do with WLS! Moderators....hasn't this gone on long enough?

I for one am tired of the cussing and flaming.

Considering that this list if for folks one year postop......I don't recall

ever seeing the Spider Woman even HAD WLS!!

Folks......get with the issues of daily living. We have so much more going

on in our lives, more joys, blessings, stress and pains without having to

deal with or buy into a thread like this.

Take the high road......and remember what Mom said...If you can't say

something nice.....don't say anything!!

To quote from groups and the description of this list...

..........The primary goal of this list is to create an online community to

serve the needs of people who are at least one year out from WLS and have

passed the difficult pre-op and immediate post-op periods.

........Hopefully it will be a place for longer-term " Graduates " of WLS to

meet and share issues that arise after at least one year has elapsed since

surgery and real life begins to settle in. These might include issues like

weight maintenance, body image, happy success stories, serious warning

stories, long-term living ideas.

.......To try to maintain a reasonable volume of mail and encourage

" Graduates " to stay online, people considering surgery and those who are

dealing with immediate post-op issues (less than one year out from surgery)

MAY NOT POST TO THE LIST OR TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS, but may quietly lurk and

listen. If at least one year has elapsed since your surgery and you wish to

post, please send a message to the list introducing yourself. Include when

you had your surgery and any other details you wish to share.

Your ignorace is still afoot

In a message dated 12/30/2001 11:54:13 PM Central Standard Time,

auntyb123@... writes:

> Sorry lady...but if you want to be universally understood in America, you

> need to use the language of this country...which just happens to be

> ENGLISH,

> not ethnic something or other! Why on earth would a group of people create

> a

> secret code only they know (unless of course they really WANT TO BE

> SEPERATE) but then expect those outside of their group to understand it???

> Maybe you all wouldn't need seperate groups so much if you behaved like

> Americans instead of African Americans. How many people do you know that

go

>

> around calling themselves German Americans or French Americans or Japanese

> Americans or Vietnamese Americans or fill-in-the-blank Americans?

>

Now who is showing ignorance? I must say that it is YOU! I know personally

people who call themselves Japanese americans and one of my good friends is

a

vietnamese american. Born in vietnam, raised here from the time she was

4yrs

old. As far as the german or french american, I'm sure there are those that

refer to themselves as that.. especially those that weren't born here, but

now consider themselves to be american. One big difference between

German/French americans and japanese/vietnamese/african (etc) americans is

we

can't HIDE the fact that we are different. The last time I checked, my

brown-ness was PERMANENT.

There is no 'secret code' going on here. What part of the NO did you not

understand in NO BABY ergo NO BABY DADDY? Hell even with the

misunderstanding, as I stated to another lady... none of you holier than

thou

people even had the brain cells or courage to step up to the plate (do you

need a translation for that one?) and simply say " sorry, I totally

misunderstood that part " .

And yes sometimes non-whites DO want to be seperat, just as with some

matters

NON_Catholics want to be seperate from Catholics and Muslims most def want

to

be seperate from you idiots right now. It cuts down on the idiocy that is

going on right now. And it most def cuts down on the 'oh this is for

everyone' when that really means this is for all the non-blacks. Just look

at

TV shows and 'popular' magazines today. Cosmo claims to be for everyone, but

they don't do makeup and hair tips that I as a BLACK woman can use. I can't

put the same crap on my face and in my hair that a non-black can.. nor would

I want to.

> And the fact that you didn't get any support from this list is no

surprise.

> Hell, you made some of the most incredibly stupid statements I've ever

> heard

> in all the 3 yrs. I've been on lists like this. What a load of crap! No

one

>

> 100 lbs. overweight is truly healthy. That's why it's called MORBID

OBESITY

>

> lady...it shortens your life!

When you get YOUR medical degree, fax me your school transcripts. Being a

100lbs overweight is indeed considered MORBID obesity. But that does not nec

mean that one should jump the A train to surgery land. (need a translation

yet?) One can be a larger size and STILL be healthy. But pull your head out

of the sandn (0r from up your own ass) for a min. Face facts.. people are

running to get this surgery for the wrong reasons and at the wrong time in

thier lives. SOME people are viewing this surgery as yet another 'quick fix'

to thier weight problems. Then they back that up with 'oh I HAVE to loose

weight because I cant eat much " . when you CAN indeed defeat this surgery. A

friend of mine is doing just that and she isn't even 6 months out from

surgery yet. But she's eating high fat, high calories and not losing a

thing... then calling me and going " what am I doing wrong " .

If you think what I said was stupid, so be it. It is my OPINION and just

like

'they' say.. opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.. U sure do, I can

smell the stink from here. (yes that was uncalled for on my part, but you

pissed me off). I don't live with my head in the sand. I didn't before my

surgery, nor am I going to do so after it.