Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Caroline - Here is a suggestion. Before you act on it, however, I would check it out with others here. In the name of research, why not go to an AA meeting. Introduce yourself with an alias and state that you used to get drunk all the time but that you stopped three weeks ago and seem to be doing fine. Do not say that you are an alcoholic. Add that you use self control when you are tempted to drink. Then listen. Do NOT give your telephone number to anyone. Again, see what others here have to say about this idea. This idea reminds me of something I do not believe has been brought up here. It is the 13th step. When women (especially young) go to AA meetings they are approached by males who will hit on them. Those guys are called 13th steppers. It is a very common practice. Thank you! Hi everyone,I just wanted to say thank you so much for all the emails I've received sofar. So many responses in so little time! I am really learning a lot aboutthe program from you guys. Well, so far I've come to something of a conclusion that the main 2reasons AA doesnt work are because of its strong emphases on religion andconformity with these factors leading to an unattractive lack of flexibilityin thought and procedure. At least those seem to be the strongest parallelsin the emails and other accounts I've read...Does this sound right to youguys? I don't want to to be way off here.Of course, more info is always welcome. I am so grateful to all of you!Thanks again to everyone,Caroline- Tom Boy, my dear temporary sponsor, - i love the parody, wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Hey there Carolines sponsor here. I would love to see Caroline go to an AA meeting, I think this would be very very beneficial. I would strongly recommend also the use of an alias and also never never ever give out your phone number and for Doorknobs sake don't get talked into getting a sponsor (just tell them you have a temporary sponsor). The only real concern I have is that you must be really sure you are on solid ground in life. That you aren't questioning any kind of addictions/alcohol use or anything like that. We are all extremely susceptible to the cult and we must be careful when we go into a meeting that we have our anti-cult armour firmly in place. I_am_not_joking_here. I do think you will learn a lot by going to the meeting, especially if you come in as a newcomer (and you assume the role that has been suggested below). If you can turn the tears on and just watch what happens. I would be really interested in what you feel when you come out of the meeting. Just please don't let your armour down when you do it! kisses Tom Boy At 12:24 PM 26/11/01 -0800, you wrote: Caroline - Here is a suggestion. Before you act on it, however, I would check it out with others here. In the name of research, why not go to an AA meeting. Introduce yourself with an alias and state that you used to get drunk all the time but that you stopped three weeks ago and seem to be doing fine. Do not say that you are an alcoholic. Add that you use self control when you are tempted to drink. Then listen. Do NOT give your telephone number to anyone. Again, see what others here have to say about this idea. This idea reminds me of something I do not believe has been brought up here. It is the 13th step. When women (especially young) go to AA meetings they are approached by males who will hit on them. Those guys are called 13th steppers. It is a very common practice. in the emails and other accounts I've read...Does this sound right to you guys? I don't want to to be way off here. Of course, more info is always welcome. I am so grateful to all of you! Thanks again to everyone, Caroline - Tom Boy, my dear temporary sponsor, - i love the parody, wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Hey there Carolines sponsor here. I would love to see Caroline go to an AA meeting, I think this would be very very beneficial. I would strongly recommend also the use of an alias and also never never ever give out your phone number and for Doorknobs sake don't get talked into getting a sponsor (just tell them you have a temporary sponsor). The only real concern I have is that you must be really sure you are on solid ground in life. That you aren't questioning any kind of addictions/alcohol use or anything like that. We are all extremely susceptible to the cult and we must be careful when we go into a meeting that we have our anti-cult armour firmly in place. I_am_not_joking_here. I do think you will learn a lot by going to the meeting, especially if you come in as a newcomer (and you assume the role that has been suggested below). If you can turn the tears on and just watch what happens. I would be really interested in what you feel when you come out of the meeting. Just please don't let your armour down when you do it! kisses Tom Boy At 12:24 PM 26/11/01 -0800, you wrote: Caroline - Here is a suggestion. Before you act on it, however, I would check it out with others here. In the name of research, why not go to an AA meeting. Introduce yourself with an alias and state that you used to get drunk all the time but that you stopped three weeks ago and seem to be doing fine. Do not say that you are an alcoholic. Add that you use self control when you are tempted to drink. Then listen. Do NOT give your telephone number to anyone. Again, see what others here have to say about this idea. This idea reminds me of something I do not believe has been brought up here. It is the 13th step. When women (especially young) go to AA meetings they are approached by males who will hit on them. Those guys are called 13th steppers. It is a very common practice. in the emails and other accounts I've read...Does this sound right to you guys? I don't want to to be way off here. Of course, more info is always welcome. I am so grateful to all of you! Thanks again to everyone, Caroline - Tom Boy, my dear temporary sponsor, - i love the parody, wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Hey there Carolines sponsor here. I would love to see Caroline go to an AA meeting, I think this would be very very beneficial. I would strongly recommend also the use of an alias and also never never ever give out your phone number and for Doorknobs sake don't get talked into getting a sponsor (just tell them you have a temporary sponsor). The only real concern I have is that you must be really sure you are on solid ground in life. That you aren't questioning any kind of addictions/alcohol use or anything like that. We are all extremely susceptible to the cult and we must be careful when we go into a meeting that we have our anti-cult armour firmly in place. I_am_not_joking_here. I do think you will learn a lot by going to the meeting, especially if you come in as a newcomer (and you assume the role that has been suggested below). If you can turn the tears on and just watch what happens. I would be really interested in what you feel when you come out of the meeting. Just please don't let your armour down when you do it! kisses Tom Boy At 12:24 PM 26/11/01 -0800, you wrote: Caroline - Here is a suggestion. Before you act on it, however, I would check it out with others here. In the name of research, why not go to an AA meeting. Introduce yourself with an alias and state that you used to get drunk all the time but that you stopped three weeks ago and seem to be doing fine. Do not say that you are an alcoholic. Add that you use self control when you are tempted to drink. Then listen. Do NOT give your telephone number to anyone. Again, see what others here have to say about this idea. This idea reminds me of something I do not believe has been brought up here. It is the 13th step. When women (especially young) go to AA meetings they are approached by males who will hit on them. Those guys are called 13th steppers. It is a very common practice. in the emails and other accounts I've read...Does this sound right to you guys? I don't want to to be way off here. Of course, more info is always welcome. I am so grateful to all of you! Thanks again to everyone, Caroline - Tom Boy, my dear temporary sponsor, - i love the parody, wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 At 08:47 PM 11/26/01 -0800, Tomboy wrote: > Hey there Carolines sponsor here. I would love to see Caroline go to an AA >meeting, I think this would be very very beneficial. I would strongly >recommend also the use of an alias and also never never ever give out your >phone number Where I went to meetings, people always gave the newcomer THEIR nuumber and they told (not asked) them " call me BEFORE you take a drink. " If this happens, it could make for interesting follow-up phone calls (don't call from home or your office phone, they may use caller-ID or *69 to get back to you). At the meetings I attended, I don't recall anyone asking for a newcomer's phone number, except perhaps as part of a 13th step. But as part of the experiment, Caroline might want to see if the local phone company, or some answering service company, will rent her a voice-mail number, that she could give out if asked. This way she would never get called on her home phone, but she could pick up any messages anyone left. >and for Doorknobs sake don't get talked into getting a sponsor >(just tell them you have a temporary sponsor). The only real concern I have >is that you must be really sure you are on solid ground in life. That you ---------- http://listen.to/benbradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 At 08:47 PM 11/26/01 -0800, Tomboy wrote: > Hey there Carolines sponsor here. I would love to see Caroline go to an AA >meeting, I think this would be very very beneficial. I would strongly >recommend also the use of an alias and also never never ever give out your >phone number Where I went to meetings, people always gave the newcomer THEIR nuumber and they told (not asked) them " call me BEFORE you take a drink. " If this happens, it could make for interesting follow-up phone calls (don't call from home or your office phone, they may use caller-ID or *69 to get back to you). At the meetings I attended, I don't recall anyone asking for a newcomer's phone number, except perhaps as part of a 13th step. But as part of the experiment, Caroline might want to see if the local phone company, or some answering service company, will rent her a voice-mail number, that she could give out if asked. This way she would never get called on her home phone, but she could pick up any messages anyone left. >and for Doorknobs sake don't get talked into getting a sponsor >(just tell them you have a temporary sponsor). The only real concern I have >is that you must be really sure you are on solid ground in life. That you ---------- http://listen.to/benbradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Good idea. I dunno about where she is, but around here you can get a pager with a years' service including voice mail for $40-50 (that includes the pager itself and the service). I have one for just such times when I want to be able to give someone a number to reach me but don't want to give them one of my " real " (home or cell) numbers. I'll bet she can get it for even cheaper if she only wants it for a shorter period of time. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Bradley But as part of the experiment, Caroline might want to see if the local phone company, or some answering service company, will rent her a voice-mail number, that she could give out if asked. This way she would never get called on her home phone, but she could pick up any messages anyone left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Good idea. I dunno about where she is, but around here you can get a pager with a years' service including voice mail for $40-50 (that includes the pager itself and the service). I have one for just such times when I want to be able to give someone a number to reach me but don't want to give them one of my " real " (home or cell) numbers. I'll bet she can get it for even cheaper if she only wants it for a shorter period of time. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Bradley But as part of the experiment, Caroline might want to see if the local phone company, or some answering service company, will rent her a voice-mail number, that she could give out if asked. This way she would never get called on her home phone, but she could pick up any messages anyone left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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