Fw: heating protein question and more

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Here is the response I received from Designer Protein's customer service

department today. I have also included my original email to them.

So, now, how about comments from everybody about this. As I read it, it still

says not to put it in very hot liquids because it lessens the bioavailability of

the protein. How do you read it?

Chrissie

heating protein question and more

I am a gastric bypass patient and use Designer Whey protein as a nutritional

supplement. Since this is my main means of nutrition, I have to be sure of what

I am doing. I need to know if Designer Protein can be added to hot and/or

boiling liquids? Can it be used in baking? Are there certain fruits/ vegetables

that cannot be mixed with the protein, such as pineapple and papaya, which I

have read elsewhere. Have you studied these properties to see if the protein is

still available for absorption if it is heated or certain fruits/vegs/ juices

are added?

Thank you very much for any information you can give me. I am also connected

to many other gastric bypass support groups and this information will be shared

by all.

Walsh

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----- Original Message -----From: Alice R. McClelland ...snip... Am I

understanding that what the company is saying is that the protein changes form

but remains the same amount (gramwise per scoop), we just can't use it? So what

good is it if we can't absorb it? Or did I misunderstand?

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...snip...

Well, that is kind of what I understood from it too. We just can't absorb

it...if it is heated, that is, because it changes. It is still protein, but not

as bioavailable to us. If we had " normal " insides, then maybe it wouldn't

matter as much. This stuff is really made for athletes, not for gastric bypass

patients. Athletes don't usually have impaired absorption, like we do. So we

have to read everything from our particular point of reference, which IS

malabsorption already. We don't need more. I, for one, don't want to take the

chance. I'm sticking with non-heated liquids with my protein powder. I'd

rather not become malnourished to find out.

Chrissie

Surgery: August 31, 2000: Open RNY/GB Removal/hernia repair

Start: 373lbs Height 5'2 " BMI 70

8/16 Abdominoplasty(-8 lbs)/thigh lipectomy

11/6 - 186 BMI 34

total loss - 187 lbs

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----- Original Message -----From: Alice R. McClelland ...snip... Am I

understanding that what the company is saying is that the protein changes form

but remains the same amount (gramwise per scoop), we just can't use it? So what

good is it if we can't absorb it? Or did I misunderstand?

---

...snip...

Well, that is kind of what I understood from it too. We just can't absorb

it...if it is heated, that is, because it changes. It is still protein, but not

as bioavailable to us. If we had " normal " insides, then maybe it wouldn't

matter as much. This stuff is really made for athletes, not for gastric bypass

patients. Athletes don't usually have impaired absorption, like we do. So we

have to read everything from our particular point of reference, which IS

malabsorption already. We don't need more. I, for one, don't want to take the

chance. I'm sticking with non-heated liquids with my protein powder. I'd

rather not become malnourished to find out.

Chrissie

Surgery: August 31, 2000: Open RNY/GB Removal/hernia repair

Start: 373lbs Height 5'2 " BMI 70

8/16 Abdominoplasty(-8 lbs)/thigh lipectomy

11/6 - 186 BMI 34

total loss - 187 lbs

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey: http://www.fastway.to/chrissieswls/

or http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

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Okay...I *am* a WLS patient (SRVG) but I do NOT have any malabsorption

problem! So....would there still be bioavailability issues for me??? Are

there for normies??? I'm not clear on this. I missed out on the relation to

lessened bioavailability and those with bypasses. I thought it was meant for

everyone???

I have not been heating my protein powders due to thinking I would be

compromising it's effectiveness...but now I'm really confused! If it's a

matter of not being effective only for those with bypasses I'd like to know

so I can go ahead and have a hot one every now and then! :-)

A. in Indy

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It changes the character of the protein, for everyone. That's probably the

answer you're after.

But should I post the BV list again? Just as a reminder?

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Re: Fw: heating protein question and more

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bioavailability! Therefore, it is less usable to those who have

> malabsorption problems (i.e., all WLS patients). Like Vitalady

> said: these products are made for bodybuilders, not people with

> malabsorption problems.>

>

> Okay...I *am* a WLS patient (SRVG) but I do NOT have any malabsorption

> problem! So....would there still be bioavailability issues for me??? Are

> there for normies??? I'm not clear on this. I missed out on the relation

to

> lessened bioavailability and those with bypasses. I thought it was meant

for

> everyone???

>

> I have not been heating my protein powders due to thinking I would be

> compromising it's effectiveness...but now I'm really confused! If it's a

> matter of not being effective only for those with bypasses I'd like to

know

> so I can go ahead and have a hot one every now and then! :-)

>

> A. in Indy

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It would be for everybody,................... but those with malabsorption need

to consider it even more because they already malabsorb and would malabsorb even

more if the protein were heated.

At least that's how I read it.

Chrissie

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----- Original Message -----From: A.

<

Okay...I *am* a WLS patient (SRVG) but I do NOT have any malabsorption

problem! So....would there still be bioavailability issues for me??? Are

there for normies??? I'm not clear on this. I missed out on the relation to

lessened bioavailability and those with bypasses. I thought it was meant for

everyone???

I have not been heating my protein powders due to thinking I would be

compromising it's effectiveness...but now I'm really confused! If it's a

matter of not being effective only for those with bypasses I'd like to know

so I can go ahead and have a hot one every now and then! :-)

A. in Indy