Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 I'm playing with the HOMA tool available from http://www.dtu.ox.ac.uk/index.html?maindoc=/homa/ It calculates IR and beta cell function from insulin or C-peptide levels. I tried putting in numbers until I got IR of 1 = insulin sensitivity of 100%, which would be considered normal. Here are some possibilities: BG Insulin % beta cells 100 7.5 75.9 80 8 123.8 65 8.5 195.9 Then I tried to get 100% beta cells, where S = insulin sensitivity: BG Insulin % beta cells S 80 5.8 99.9 136.5 85 7 100.3 111.5 88 7.8 100.6 99.3 So according to this model, with normal beta cells and normal IR, you'd have a fasting BG of 88 and a fasting insulin level of 7.8 microunits per ml. I'm not sure what anyone can do with this information, but it allows one to very roughly estimate IR and % beta cells if you have fasting BG and fasting insulin or C-peptide levels. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 > So according to this model, with normal beta cells and normal IR, you'd have > a fasting BG of 88 and a fasting insulin level of 7.8 microunits per ml. It just occurred to me that this is very close to the 85 mg/dL that Bernstein says most nondiabetics have at almost all times. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 > So according to this model, with normal beta cells and normal IR, you'd have > a fasting BG of 88 and a fasting insulin level of 7.8 microunits per ml. It just occurred to me that this is very close to the 85 mg/dL that Bernstein says most nondiabetics have at almost all times. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 In a message dated 9/6/2005 8:20:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, gretchen@... writes: > I'm not sure what anyone can do with this information I used the model to show what happens if the pancreas output saturates. With the parameters I inputted, IR increased more rapidly in a decidedly nonlinear fashion for BGs above about 220. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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