Re: Different topics....weight vs body mass, emotions, servings, protein

[Guest guest]

Audrey,

I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why. I'm

about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh myself

on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for and

then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which way

the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-shirt

now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was probably

in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really. I

think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's damn

over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear 2XL

and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as expected,

250 or so.

So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here told me

and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to cart

around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a candidate

for this effect.

Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the mix

too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll get

down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've done

pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good blood

work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy then

screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight number.

There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess up

some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything technical

on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

(maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking any

bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get freaked

out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts " to a

greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least I

think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays or

was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan usually

sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not you

sister.

You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end of

the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying. MMMM

sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some turkey

sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are tasty

too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor and

can be used in almost anything I think.

Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too right?

You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not fun.

Mike in GR

>

> Hi everyone..

> I have a couple things to ask...has anyone experienced losing more

> body mass than actual pounds? I'm 7 weeks out and I was changing

the

> clothes in my closet over the weekend and I am just amazed at how

much

> doesn't fit me. I see my Dr. again on the 31st, but I estimate

that

> I've lost around 35 lbs til then (maybe a few more). Seems only 35

> lbs shouldn't make that big a difference. I went shopping about 2

> weeks ago for pants and I had to buy 2 sizes smaller... I'm

thrilled,

> but kinda 'unbelievable'.

> Also, I find things that happen around me or what someone says

upsets

> me alot easier. I'm an easy going person, but I'm finding that the

> kids are sometimes really working on my nerves. The holidays are

> around the corner and that seems to always stress me out. Last

night I

> found myself laying in bed crying just thinking about the " holiday "

> stuff. I sort of wish I could fast-forward from Nov 30 to Jan 1...

LOL

> I read a post giving pointers on maintaining.. I always use a

saucer

> size plate when I serve myself. At this time, I'm not eating

anything

> other than protein yet, so 3 or 4 oz of that product fits nicely on

a

> saucer. Some days I don't think I'm getting enough protein in.

> Yesterday for example, I had 3 oz. of lean ground sausage at lunch

and

> last evening I had a 2.5 oz. turkey burger and 1 oz. of beans.

I've

> often read about protein powder.... my question is.... does it have

a

> flavor or is it or can you buy flavorless that could be mixed in

with

> other foods to boost protein intake?

> Sorry for the long post,,, just all these topics I wanted to touch

> base on.

> Thanks for any feedback I can get.

>

> Audrey in PA

>

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Audrey,

I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why. I'm

about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh myself

on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for and

then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which way

the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-shirt

now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was probably

in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really. I

think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's damn

over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear 2XL

and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as expected,

250 or so.

So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here told me

and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to cart

around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a candidate

for this effect.

Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the mix

too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll get

down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've done

pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good blood

work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy then

screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight number.

There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess up

some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything technical

on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

(maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking any

bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get freaked

out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts " to a

greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least I

think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays or

was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan usually

sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not you

sister.

You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end of

the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying. MMMM

sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some turkey

sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are tasty

too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor and

can be used in almost anything I think.

Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too right?

You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not fun.

Mike in GR

>

> Hi everyone..

> I have a couple things to ask...has anyone experienced losing more

> body mass than actual pounds? I'm 7 weeks out and I was changing

the

> clothes in my closet over the weekend and I am just amazed at how

much

> doesn't fit me. I see my Dr. again on the 31st, but I estimate

that

> I've lost around 35 lbs til then (maybe a few more). Seems only 35

> lbs shouldn't make that big a difference. I went shopping about 2

> weeks ago for pants and I had to buy 2 sizes smaller... I'm

thrilled,

> but kinda 'unbelievable'.

> Also, I find things that happen around me or what someone says

upsets

> me alot easier. I'm an easy going person, but I'm finding that the

> kids are sometimes really working on my nerves. The holidays are

> around the corner and that seems to always stress me out. Last

night I

> found myself laying in bed crying just thinking about the " holiday "

> stuff. I sort of wish I could fast-forward from Nov 30 to Jan 1...

LOL

> I read a post giving pointers on maintaining.. I always use a

saucer

> size plate when I serve myself. At this time, I'm not eating

anything

> other than protein yet, so 3 or 4 oz of that product fits nicely on

a

> saucer. Some days I don't think I'm getting enough protein in.

> Yesterday for example, I had 3 oz. of lean ground sausage at lunch

and

> last evening I had a 2.5 oz. turkey burger and 1 oz. of beans.

I've

> often read about protein powder.... my question is.... does it have

a

> flavor or is it or can you buy flavorless that could be mixed in

with

> other foods to boost protein intake?

> Sorry for the long post,,, just all these topics I wanted to touch

> base on.

> Thanks for any feedback I can get.

>

> Audrey in PA

>

[Guest guest]

Yes we do get bad weather, This will be my second winter here.. .So I have not

seen how bad it can just yet. Not since I was a teen anyways. I want a treadmill

really bad for this reason.

Mike wrote: Audrey,

I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why. I'm

about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh myself

on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for and

then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which way

the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-shirt

now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was probably

in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really. I

think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's damn

over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear 2XL

and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as expected,

250 or so.

So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here told me

and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to cart

around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a candidate

for this effect.

Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the mix

too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll get

down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've done

pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good blood

work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy then

screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight number.

There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess up

some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything technical

on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

(maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking any

bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get freaked

out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts " to a

greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least I

think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays or

was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan usually

sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not you

sister.

You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end of

the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying. MMMM

sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some turkey

sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are tasty

too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor and

can be used in almost anything I think.

Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too right?

You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not fun.

Mike in GR

>

> Hi everyone..

> I have a couple things to ask...has anyone experienced losing more

> body mass than actual pounds? I'm 7 weeks out and I was changing

the

> clothes in my closet over the weekend and I am just amazed at how

much

> doesn't fit me. I see my Dr. again on the 31st, but I estimate

that

> I've lost around 35 lbs til then (maybe a few more). Seems only 35

> lbs shouldn't make that big a difference. I went shopping about 2

> weeks ago for pants and I had to buy 2 sizes smaller... I'm

thrilled,

> but kinda 'unbelievable'.

> Also, I find things that happen around me or what someone says

upsets

> me alot easier. I'm an easy going person, but I'm finding that the

> kids are sometimes really working on my nerves. The holidays are

> around the corner and that seems to always stress me out. Last

night I

> found myself laying in bed crying just thinking about the " holiday "

> stuff. I sort of wish I could fast-forward from Nov 30 to Jan 1...

LOL

> I read a post giving pointers on maintaining.. I always use a

saucer

> size plate when I serve myself. At this time, I'm not eating

anything

> other than protein yet, so 3 or 4 oz of that product fits nicely on

a

> saucer. Some days I don't think I'm getting enough protein in.

> Yesterday for example, I had 3 oz. of lean ground sausage at lunch

and

> last evening I had a 2.5 oz. turkey burger and 1 oz. of beans.

I've

> often read about protein powder.... my question is.... does it have

a

> flavor or is it or can you buy flavorless that could be mixed in

with

> other foods to boost protein intake?

> Sorry for the long post,,, just all these topics I wanted to touch

> base on.

> Thanks for any feedback I can get.

>

> Audrey in PA

>

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I use whey protein powder in my oatmeal and other things. It's wonderful!

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Mike wrote:

> Audrey,

>

> I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why. I'm

> about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh myself

> on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for and

> then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which way

> the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

>

> As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-shirt

> now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was probably

> in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really. I

> think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's damn

> over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear 2XL

> and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as expected,

> 250 or so.

>

> So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here told me

> and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to cart

> around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a candidate

> for this effect.

>

> Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the mix

> too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll get

> down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've done

> pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

>

> I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good blood

> work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy then

> screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight number.

>

> There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess up

> some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything technical

> on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking any

> bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get freaked

> out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts " to a

> greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least I

> think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

>

> What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays or

> was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan usually

> sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not you

> sister.

>

> You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end of

> the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying. MMMM

> sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some turkey

> sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are tasty

> too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor and

> can be used in almost anything I think.

>

> Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too right?

> You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not fun.

>

> Mike in GR

>

[Guest guest]

Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There is smoke flavoring you can buy called Liquid Smoke, I used to use it all

the time. Works great! You should find that in the steak sauce Isle Or seasoning

not sure.

Mike wrote: Uh I just take a tube of turkey

burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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There is smoke flavoring you can buy called Liquid Smoke, I used to use it all

the time. Works great! You should find that in the steak sauce Isle Or seasoning

not sure.

Mike wrote: Uh I just take a tube of turkey

burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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There is smoke flavoring you can buy called Liquid Smoke, I used to use it all

the time. Works great! You should find that in the steak sauce Isle Or seasoning

not sure.

Mike wrote: Uh I just take a tube of turkey

burger, spice it up with some

canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

Foreman grill. Not much to it.

I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

great deal.

My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

something?

Mike in GR

> > Audrey,

> >

> > I think I've experienced what you're talking about. Here's why.

I'm

> > about 294 according to my parent's scale. They have a heavy duty

> > scale that I can weigh myself on. Well, I guess I could weigh

myself

> > on a standard scale but that would involve me having to pay for

and

> > then actually use it at my house. I guess I don't see the need.

> > Anyway, that thing has been about 2-7lbs high depending on which

way

> > the wind blows so maybe I'm about 290lbs now.

> >

> > As you may have been reading I'm about a 42 " waist and an XL t-

shirt

> > now. If I think back to when I was that size before it was

probably

> > in the early 90s when I was getting a 4hr work out every night

> > loading trucks for UPS. I ate crap but didn't gain weight really.

I

> > think I was about 240-260lbs. No way was I anywhere near 290lbs.

> > Maybe 30lbs doesn't make that much difference but heck that's

damn

> > over 10% of my current weight. You'd think I'd be at least a 2XL

> > shirt. For that matter I know other guys here at work who wear

2XL

> > and I'm CERTAIN they don't weight 290lbs but more like, as

expected,

> > 250 or so.

> >

> > So what the frick is going on here? Someone in the group here

told me

> > and I think I've heard it from my surgeon/others that our bones

> > become more dense and heavier over the years that we've got to

cart

> > around the extra weight. Let's see, I've been over 300 for a good

> > decade and over 400 for maybe half of that. No doubt I'm a

candidate

> > for this effect.

> >

> > Couple that with the fact that I'm working out every weekday with

> > weights and cardio and you've got to add the muscle weight to the

mix

> > too. It sounds to me like there's a good possibility that I'll

get

> > down to something in the neighborhood of 250lbs but I'll look and

> > wear clothing like I'm 220 or so. I might even FEEL like I'm 220.

> > Hell I'll take that. I've always held weight better than others

> > anyway. Nobody has been very good at guessing my weight. I've

done

> > pretty well at the carnivals against the weight guessers.

> >

> > I'm not one to get hung up on the number stuff. If I have good

blood

> > work, can fit into clothing and a plane seat, and I feel healthy

then

> > screw the numbers. I'll let other people worry about my weight

number.

> >

> > There's supposed to be a lot of hormones released that sorta mess

up

> > some/most folks after wls surgery. I've not read anything

technical

> > on this but I'm buying the information for the most part. I was

> > (maybe still am I guess) slightly bi-polar. I'm no longer taking

any

> > bi-polar medication. Am I still bi-polar? Should I be medicated?

> > Maybe. That's all psychiatrist stuff that I'm not qualified to

> > determine. My shrink said it's cool so long as I don't get

freaked

> > out at little things, don't have my signature " racing thoughts "

to a

> > greater extent, etc. So far everything's been real cool. At least

I

> > think it has. I hate this sort of stuff.

> >

> > What exactly were you crying about with regards to the holidays

or

> > was it just the holidays in general? The weather in Michigan

usually

> > sucks around the holidays. I'm the one that should be crying not

you

> > sister.

> >

> > You might not get enough protein in every day. It's not the end

of

> > the world. Just keep trying. You only fail when you stop trying.

MMMM

> > sausage. I haven't had that for some time. Maybe I'll get some

turkey

> > sausage some time again. Good stuff Maynard! Turkey burgers are

tasty

> > too. My son loves it when I make those. I've never used protein

> > powder but some have posted here about ones that have no flavor

and

> > can be used in almost anything I think.

> >

> > Email is free. Long posts are too. Thank goodness considering the

> > novels I write eh? Hmm, PA weather can suck in the winter too

right?

> > You folks get a lot of freezing rain and sudden blizzards. Not

fun.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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Check out the sauces/seasonings. They make something called Liquid

Smoke that is supposed to give it a smoked flavor!

W

380/294/160

Mike wrote:

> Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

> canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

> Foreman grill. Not much to it.

>

> I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

> today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

> white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

> getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

> likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

> great deal.

>

> My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

> it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

> you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

> there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

> something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

> something?

>

> Mike in GR

>

[Guest guest]

Check out the sauces/seasonings. They make something called Liquid

Smoke that is supposed to give it a smoked flavor!

W

380/294/160

Mike wrote:

> Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

> canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

> Foreman grill. Not much to it.

>

> I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

> today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

> white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

> getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

> likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

> great deal.

>

> My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

> it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

> you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

> there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

> something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

> something?

>

> Mike in GR

>

[Guest guest]

Check out the sauces/seasonings. They make something called Liquid

Smoke that is supposed to give it a smoked flavor!

W

380/294/160

Mike wrote:

> Uh I just take a tube of turkey burger, spice it up with some

> canadian steak seasoning and other spices then cook them in the

> Foreman grill. Not much to it.

>

> I fought the urge to buy another kettle fried turkey from Costco

> today. I did buy some MASSIVE bags of soy chips though. 18.5oz of

> white cheddar soy chips for $6. Meijer sells 3.5oz for $3 so I'm

> getting quite the deal. My kids love to snack on them. Except my son

> likes the ranch flavor which comes in a 22oz bag for $7. Still a

> great deal.

>

> My daughter tried some canned salmon on a cracker and tolerated/ate

> it. Now this is big because she hates fish and salmon is so good for

> you. They didn't have smoked salmon which she claims to love. Is

> there a way to cook up canned salmon with some smoke flavoring or

> something to make it taste like smoked salmon on crackers or

> something?

>

> Mike in GR

>