I got my packet from kaiser!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I got a packet of papers from Kaiser today, I am not sure if

I qualify though, it says BMI of 40+ and 2 major health probs or BMI of 50.

I weigh 255, and if I was 230 I wouldn't qualify. They want you to loose 10%

of your body weight, and if I do that I won't qualify. Pre diabetes and

hypertension weren't on the list, but SEVERE HYPERTENSION was. Poly cystic

ovarian

syndrome was on the list, along with joint degeneration. I do have a joint

disease, but not degeneration, I have chronic joint pain..

Another question is....... it says absolutley NO crunchy

snacks,sugar,caffeine,motrin,tylenol,citrus fruits and carbonation for THE REST

OF YOUR

LIFE.... is that true? if so I can't have this surgery because of my chronic

joint

pain, what happens if you get the cramps????

Kaiser's plan is called OPTIONS. You have to go through 24 weeks of group

classes, and go on a diet, with aerobic excersise 4 times a week, and I think I

should start gaining weight so I can loose 10% and not disqualify. This isn't

sounding too good now though, about the food thing.. seems like you have to

give up EVERYTHING . My paper says that 15% don't loose any weight, and over

1/2 of all people never attain a non obese weight. Also, the only procedure

they do is the RYDGB. It says there is a higher risk of bowel obstruction. I

have IBS and that's the LAST thing I want.

please help I need answers!

Dawnyel

295/255/150

[Guest guest]

Thanks Mike, you made me feel a lot better!

-Dawnyel

295/255/150

[Guest guest]

Thanks Mike, you made me feel a lot better!

-Dawnyel

295/255/150

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I'm thinking about gaining weight to better qualify myself LOL

I love whoppers but Taco bell is my fav

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I'm thinking about gaining weight to better qualify myself LOL

I love whoppers but Taco bell is my fav

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I'm thinking about gaining weight to better qualify myself LOL

I love whoppers but Taco bell is my fav

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Mike in GR,

Thank you for all the info.. you made me feel a lot better about everything

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Mike in GR,

Thank you for all the info.. you made me feel a lot better about everything

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Mike in GR,

Thank you for all the info.. you made me feel a lot better about everything

-Dawnyel

[Guest guest]

Dawnyel,

I know somebody who thought the same thing, about losing weight and then

not qualifying.....It didn't happen to her, they went by the weight at the

start of the program.....

Your Kaiser sounds a bit different than mine in San

Francisco........There are things you can take for cramps that don't have

Tylenol in them, aren't there??? (ladies help me out here)

They are going to tell you a bunch of things you can never have again.

And yes for me coffee was one of them, and this morning I had two cups. And

Im still breathing.........I also have had some crackers and chips and nuts

and sunflower seeds and god knows what else they told me I could never have

again. We are human and I think to expect that we will go through the rest

of our life and never have a potato chip again is just crazy! Im not telling

you to not follow the rules, I didn't touch anything like that for months,

Im only saying don't freak out over all of this........Take it all in and

think long and hard about what you want to do......

Mike T

I got my packet from kaiser!

>

> Hi,

> I got a packet of papers from Kaiser today, I am not sure

> if

> I qualify though, it says BMI of 40+ and 2 major health probs or BMI of

> 50.

> I weigh 255, and if I was 230 I wouldn't qualify. They want you to loose

> 10%

[Guest guest]

Dawnyel,

You never answered my question on if you had your orientation yet?? I

would suggest you don't lose anymore weight until you have your first class.

Go get a couple of Mike's triple whoppers while your at it!

I know we just met, so you might not catch my sense of humor,

sorry........but really don't try to lose anymore until your class........

Mike T

I got my packet from kaiser!

>

> Hi,

> I got a packet of papers from Kaiser today, I am not sure

> if

> I qualify though, it says BMI of 40+ and 2 major health probs or BMI of

> 50.

> I weigh 255, and if I was 230 I wouldn't qualify. They want you to loose

> 10%

> of your body weight, and if I do that I won't qualify. Pre diabetes and

> hypertension weren't on the list, but SEVERE HYPERTENSION was. Poly

> cystic ovarian

> syndrome was on the list, along with joint degeneration. I do have a

> joint

> disease, but not degeneration, I have chronic joint pain..

>

> Another question is....... it says absolutley NO crunchy

> snacks,sugar,caffeine,motrin,tylenol,citrus fruits and carbonation for THE

> REST OF YOUR

> LIFE.... is that true? if so I can't have this surgery because of my

> chronic joint

> pain, what happens if you get the cramps????

>

> Kaiser's plan is called OPTIONS. You have to go through 24 weeks of group

> classes, and go on a diet, with aerobic excersise 4 times a week, and I

> think I

> should start gaining weight so I can loose 10% and not disqualify. This

> isn't

> sounding too good now though, about the food thing.. seems like you have

> to

> give up EVERYTHING . My paper says that 15% don't loose any weight, and

> over

> 1/2 of all people never attain a non obese weight. Also, the only

> procedure

> they do is the RYDGB. It says there is a higher risk of bowel obstruction.

> I

> have IBS and that's the LAST thing I want.

>

> please help I need answers!

>

> Dawnyel

>

> 295/255/150

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dawnyel,

You never answered my question on if you had your orientation yet?? I

would suggest you don't lose anymore weight until you have your first class.

Go get a couple of Mike's triple whoppers while your at it!

I know we just met, so you might not catch my sense of humor,

sorry........but really don't try to lose anymore until your class........

Mike T

I got my packet from kaiser!

>

> Hi,

> I got a packet of papers from Kaiser today, I am not sure

> if

> I qualify though, it says BMI of 40+ and 2 major health probs or BMI of

> 50.

> I weigh 255, and if I was 230 I wouldn't qualify. They want you to loose

> 10%

> of your body weight, and if I do that I won't qualify. Pre diabetes and

> hypertension weren't on the list, but SEVERE HYPERTENSION was. Poly

> cystic ovarian

> syndrome was on the list, along with joint degeneration. I do have a

> joint

> disease, but not degeneration, I have chronic joint pain..

>

> Another question is....... it says absolutley NO crunchy

> snacks,sugar,caffeine,motrin,tylenol,citrus fruits and carbonation for THE

> REST OF YOUR

> LIFE.... is that true? if so I can't have this surgery because of my

> chronic joint

> pain, what happens if you get the cramps????

>

> Kaiser's plan is called OPTIONS. You have to go through 24 weeks of group

> classes, and go on a diet, with aerobic excersise 4 times a week, and I

> think I

> should start gaining weight so I can loose 10% and not disqualify. This

> isn't

> sounding too good now though, about the food thing.. seems like you have

> to

> give up EVERYTHING . My paper says that 15% don't loose any weight, and

> over

> 1/2 of all people never attain a non obese weight. Also, the only

> procedure

> they do is the RYDGB. It says there is a higher risk of bowel obstruction.

> I

> have IBS and that's the LAST thing I want.

>

> please help I need answers!

>

> Dawnyel

>

> 295/255/150

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dawnyel,

You never answered my question on if you had your orientation yet?? I

would suggest you don't lose anymore weight until you have your first class.

Go get a couple of Mike's triple whoppers while your at it!

I know we just met, so you might not catch my sense of humor,

sorry........but really don't try to lose anymore until your class........

Mike T

I got my packet from kaiser!

>

> Hi,

> I got a packet of papers from Kaiser today, I am not sure

> if

> I qualify though, it says BMI of 40+ and 2 major health probs or BMI of

> 50.

> I weigh 255, and if I was 230 I wouldn't qualify. They want you to loose

> 10%

> of your body weight, and if I do that I won't qualify. Pre diabetes and

> hypertension weren't on the list, but SEVERE HYPERTENSION was. Poly

> cystic ovarian

> syndrome was on the list, along with joint degeneration. I do have a

> joint

> disease, but not degeneration, I have chronic joint pain..

>

> Another question is....... it says absolutley NO crunchy

> snacks,sugar,caffeine,motrin,tylenol,citrus fruits and carbonation for THE

> REST OF YOUR

> LIFE.... is that true? if so I can't have this surgery because of my

> chronic joint

> pain, what happens if you get the cramps????

>

> Kaiser's plan is called OPTIONS. You have to go through 24 weeks of group

> classes, and go on a diet, with aerobic excersise 4 times a week, and I

> think I

> should start gaining weight so I can loose 10% and not disqualify. This

> isn't

> sounding too good now though, about the food thing.. seems like you have

> to

> give up EVERYTHING . My paper says that 15% don't loose any weight, and

> over

> 1/2 of all people never attain a non obese weight. Also, the only

> procedure

> they do is the RYDGB. It says there is a higher risk of bowel obstruction.

> I

> have IBS and that's the LAST thing I want.

>

> please help I need answers!

>

> Dawnyel

>

> 295/255/150

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh dont remind me.......I was single handedly keeping my local taco bell

afloat!!! LOL..........They must have closed up by now since I had surgery!

Mike T

Re: I got my packet from kaiser!

> Mike,

> I'm thinking about gaining weight to better qualify myself

> LOL

>

> I love whoppers but Taco bell is my fav

>

>

> -Dawnyel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh dont remind me.......I was single handedly keeping my local taco bell

afloat!!! LOL..........They must have closed up by now since I had surgery!

Mike T

Re: I got my packet from kaiser!

> Mike,

> I'm thinking about gaining weight to better qualify myself

> LOL

>

> I love whoppers but Taco bell is my fav

>

>

> -Dawnyel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's fine with me, I take it as a compliment

Donna in VA

Re: I got my packet from kaiser!

Wow this has to be one of the most profound and accurate statements,

at least as it applies to how I feel about the whole wls journey,

that I've ever read. You all know I write freaking books here but

this was so short and to the point! " both the easiest and the hardest

thing I have ever done in my life " . If it's okay with you I'm going

to adopt this in my vocabulary and use this when I talk to others

about my surgery. That's really an awesome way to describe how I feel

in a nutshell.

I agree with the rest of your post too.

Mike in GR

>

> I think there are a couple schools of thought on the tylenol thing.

My DR

> said that Tylenol was the ONLY thing I could take, no ibuprofen, no

celebrex,

> which was my mainstay for my back, no NSAID (Non steriodal anti

inflammatory)

> of any kind, including naprosyn, and no aspirin, but tylenol was

okay, and

> most drugs that don;t have any of the others, or are really hard

on the stomach.

> Since we have so much less now, there is so much more to irritate.

I have

> made some big adjustments, but honestly, I guess the group

sessions and the

> indoctrination from the dr and his staff have worked, because I

only miss it

> when it is right in front of my face, and that is only momentarily.

It is

> amazing what the surgery, and the road to it do for you. It does

truly help you to

> change your whole way of thinking. I am even able to cook for my

family, even

> when I can't eat it yet, being only 5 weeks out.but, I am up to 30

pounds,

> and that is a mighty powerful incentive. All I can say is, it is

both the

> easiest and the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Even

with just 30

> pounds, I can already see a difference. No BP meds, my back hurts

less already,

> still a bit tired if I do too much.. but even that is a nice

feeling, because

> I am DOING, instead of just watching, I Did have have the gas

pains the

> first few days... but not too much more pain than that. It was

great, just felt

> like I did too many sit ups for about 2 weeks. I can't say enough

good about

> my choice. I hope this helps and I wish you all the best.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's fine with me, I take it as a compliment

Donna in VA

Re: I got my packet from kaiser!

Wow this has to be one of the most profound and accurate statements,

at least as it applies to how I feel about the whole wls journey,

that I've ever read. You all know I write freaking books here but

this was so short and to the point! " both the easiest and the hardest

thing I have ever done in my life " . If it's okay with you I'm going

to adopt this in my vocabulary and use this when I talk to others

about my surgery. That's really an awesome way to describe how I feel

in a nutshell.

I agree with the rest of your post too.

Mike in GR

>

> I think there are a couple schools of thought on the tylenol thing.

My DR

> said that Tylenol was the ONLY thing I could take, no ibuprofen, no

celebrex,

> which was my mainstay for my back, no NSAID (Non steriodal anti

inflammatory)

> of any kind, including naprosyn, and no aspirin, but tylenol was

okay, and

> most drugs that don;t have any of the others, or are really hard

on the stomach.

> Since we have so much less now, there is so much more to irritate.

I have

> made some big adjustments, but honestly, I guess the group

sessions and the

> indoctrination from the dr and his staff have worked, because I

only miss it

> when it is right in front of my face, and that is only momentarily.

It is

> amazing what the surgery, and the road to it do for you. It does

truly help you to

> change your whole way of thinking. I am even able to cook for my

family, even

> when I can't eat it yet, being only 5 weeks out.but, I am up to 30

pounds,

> and that is a mighty powerful incentive. All I can say is, it is

both the

> easiest and the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Even

with just 30

> pounds, I can already see a difference. No BP meds, my back hurts

less already,

> still a bit tired if I do too much.. but even that is a nice

feeling, because

> I am DOING, instead of just watching, I Did have have the gas

pains the

> first few days... but not too much more pain than that. It was

great, just felt

> like I did too many sit ups for about 2 weeks. I can't say enough

good about

> my choice. I hope this helps and I wish you all the best.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's fine with me, I take it as a compliment

Donna in VA

Re: I got my packet from kaiser!

Wow this has to be one of the most profound and accurate statements,

at least as it applies to how I feel about the whole wls journey,

that I've ever read. You all know I write freaking books here but

this was so short and to the point! " both the easiest and the hardest

thing I have ever done in my life " . If it's okay with you I'm going

to adopt this in my vocabulary and use this when I talk to others

about my surgery. That's really an awesome way to describe how I feel

in a nutshell.

I agree with the rest of your post too.

Mike in GR

>

> I think there are a couple schools of thought on the tylenol thing.

My DR

> said that Tylenol was the ONLY thing I could take, no ibuprofen, no

celebrex,

> which was my mainstay for my back, no NSAID (Non steriodal anti

inflammatory)

> of any kind, including naprosyn, and no aspirin, but tylenol was

okay, and

> most drugs that don;t have any of the others, or are really hard

on the stomach.

> Since we have so much less now, there is so much more to irritate.

I have

> made some big adjustments, but honestly, I guess the group

sessions and the

> indoctrination from the dr and his staff have worked, because I

only miss it

> when it is right in front of my face, and that is only momentarily.

It is

> amazing what the surgery, and the road to it do for you. It does

truly help you to

> change your whole way of thinking. I am even able to cook for my

family, even

> when I can't eat it yet, being only 5 weeks out.but, I am up to 30

pounds,

> and that is a mighty powerful incentive. All I can say is, it is

both the

> easiest and the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Even

with just 30

> pounds, I can already see a difference. No BP meds, my back hurts

less already,

> still a bit tired if I do too much.. but even that is a nice

feeling, because

> I am DOING, instead of just watching, I Did have have the gas

pains the

> first few days... but not too much more pain than that. It was

great, just felt

> like I did too many sit ups for about 2 weeks. I can't say enough

good about

> my choice. I hope this helps and I wish you all the best.

>

>

>