Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know about this? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a different name being used? http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php yogurt with coconut milk? >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > about this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a different name being used? http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php yogurt with coconut milk? >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > about this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a different name being used? http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php yogurt with coconut milk? >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > about this? > Thanks, > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 the bed diet is a bit nutty that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference between something working and something not working a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so is scd and bed kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in > this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a > different name being used? > > http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php > > yogurt with coconut milk? > > > >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > > about this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 the bed diet is a bit nutty that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference between something working and something not working a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so is scd and bed kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in > this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a > different name being used? > > http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php > > yogurt with coconut milk? > > > >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > > about this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 the bed diet is a bit nutty that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference between something working and something not working a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so is scd and bed kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > Check out the Body Ecology Diet info on coconut kefir. I'm wondering if, in > this case, kefir and yogurt are pretty much the same thing - just a > different name being used? > > http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/coconutkefir.php > > yogurt with coconut milk? > > > >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know > > about this? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 , I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. Marilyn yogurt with coconut milk? >> >> >> >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone > know >> > about this? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 , I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. Marilyn yogurt with coconut milk? >> >> >> >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone > know >> > about this? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 , I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. Marilyn yogurt with coconut milk? >> >> >> >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone > know >> > about this? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 i can't be bad enough and put down enough deliberate harmful misinformation about diets like bed and gfcf and the people who sell them its a rough savage world and you don't get by by being totally nice and you have not been nice but have put me down in a savage but sophisticated way the bed diet and coconut kefir are toxic and people who support or promote it are bad or misguided and its foundation being based in yeast promoting fermentations is totally opposite to scd so where are you coming from claiming i am degrading this posting enviroment you are a relative newcomer and post in an intrusive way like that like andrew is so worthless but some information is good but discard the rest THE ABSOLUTE CHEEK OF IT > , > > I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, > included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and > degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable > information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. > > Marilyn > > > > Re: yogurt with coconut milk? > > > > the bed diet is a bit nutty > > > > that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference > > between something working and something not working > > > > a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their > > message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of > > people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working > > > > if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so > > is scd and bed > > > > kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and > > yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what > > scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its > > extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation > > > > but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... > > > > a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have > > tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and > > temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 i can't be bad enough and put down enough deliberate harmful misinformation about diets like bed and gfcf and the people who sell them its a rough savage world and you don't get by by being totally nice and you have not been nice but have put me down in a savage but sophisticated way the bed diet and coconut kefir are toxic and people who support or promote it are bad or misguided and its foundation being based in yeast promoting fermentations is totally opposite to scd so where are you coming from claiming i am degrading this posting enviroment you are a relative newcomer and post in an intrusive way like that like andrew is so worthless but some information is good but discard the rest THE ABSOLUTE CHEEK OF IT > , > > I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, > included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and > degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable > information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. > > Marilyn > > > > Re: yogurt with coconut milk? > > > > the bed diet is a bit nutty > > > > that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference > > between something working and something not working > > > > a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their > > message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of > > people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working > > > > if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so > > is scd and bed > > > > kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and > > yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what > > scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its > > extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation > > > > but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... > > > > a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have > > tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and > > temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 i can't be bad enough and put down enough deliberate harmful misinformation about diets like bed and gfcf and the people who sell them its a rough savage world and you don't get by by being totally nice and you have not been nice but have put me down in a savage but sophisticated way the bed diet and coconut kefir are toxic and people who support or promote it are bad or misguided and its foundation being based in yeast promoting fermentations is totally opposite to scd so where are you coming from claiming i am degrading this posting enviroment you are a relative newcomer and post in an intrusive way like that like andrew is so worthless but some information is good but discard the rest THE ABSOLUTE CHEEK OF IT > , > > I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, > included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and > degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable > information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. > > Marilyn > > > > Re: yogurt with coconut milk? > > > > the bed diet is a bit nutty > > > > that is it's done by nuts who can't seem to understand the difference > > between something working and something not working > > > > a year or so ago when it was all the rage i looked through their > > message board, you just get a feeling for the basic stupidity of > > people who blindly follow something without asking wether its working > > > > if kefir and yougurt are the same thing with a different name then so > > is scd and bed > > > > kefir is a relatively uncontrolled bacteria and yeast culture and > > yougurt is a relatively controlled bacteria culture and a lot of what > > scd is about is death to yeast and bed is pro yeast with its > > extensive use of bacteria and yeast fermentation > > > > but 'bed' is more 'party' so .......................... > > > > a very simple rule for posting is to undertand that unless you have > > tried something in some depth you are likely to be off the mark and > > temper advice with a realistic sense of uncertianty > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 all you have to do is click on my name and follow the link through to my web site or read back on previous posts like i have to do all the work for you? you may have well had enough but life is not easy and others to have had a tough road really tough, there was a pic on the bbc website of a mother with a starving baby in niger (i think), thats happening at the moment and you are selling charity as well real charity you walk over and grind your heel in............ i have been around long enough to see all the loops the real freedom is learning to think for yourself and develop an intelligent discrimination in sorting out information and testing it and you won't need to know backgorund or people but are able to tell from what is written what the quality is. the other thing is to watch that since the posters on this baord are predominantly female is that you don't get to female in the way you judge things the mindsets are very different and to set in on this like the only male on the board who posts regularly makes it very easy to see why men don't post here do you want this? what do your children need? you have never done any practical charity cause otherwise you would more realistic about it i don't mean giving a few dollars to collectors but physically helping people in need > , > > I am fairly new here, too, and no doubt it is my loss, but I know virtually nothing about you. Unfortunately, like many parents of kids on the spectrum, I have become more cynical, suspicious & defensive in many ways during this journey. I've had enough of scientific and medical paternalism to last me several lifetimes. So the first questions that always pop into my mind anymore are who is this person & what is their background? > > How can you know the intentions of Marilyn - her being a relative newcomer as you say? I'm sorry, but her post came across as politely restrained while yours came across with an attitude of " how dare you question me? " and judging her harshly - which she did not do to you. Which brings us back to " who are you and what is your background " ? > > I agree that the world is becoming an increasingly barbaric place, but if I came across a man beaten and left for dead on the roadside, I would not offer him a swift kick of my own and move on. Let those who are content to live like animals descend on their own while we take the higher road. Every act of charity leads this world a little bit closer to healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Marilyn, If you go to the " breaking the vicious cycle " web site, they have a ton of info on legals/illegals, etc. She also talks about kefir, and why it's not scd compatible. try this link (hope it works) http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm I checked into kefir a while back, when people where having supposedly good results from it, but after looking more into it and reading this, decided to try it " by the book " . Those good comments about kefir have died down, btw. Sharon -- Re: Re: yogurt with coconut milk? , I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. Marilyn yogurt with coconut milk? >> >> >> >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone > know >> > about this? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Marilyn, If you go to the " breaking the vicious cycle " web site, they have a ton of info on legals/illegals, etc. She also talks about kefir, and why it's not scd compatible. try this link (hope it works) http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm I checked into kefir a while back, when people where having supposedly good results from it, but after looking more into it and reading this, decided to try it " by the book " . Those good comments about kefir have died down, btw. Sharon -- Re: Re: yogurt with coconut milk? , I merely offered a link, and asked a question. Your answer, however, included disparaging comments and put-downs. This doesn't help anyone, and degrades the environment of this list for all. You give some valuable information, but please try to be considerate in your comments. Marilyn yogurt with coconut milk? >> >> >> >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone > know >> > about this? >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 jjcox22 wrote: >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know >about this? >Thanks, > > > > > Well, getting back to the original question...I have done this. I just started out on SCD, but we've used coconut products heavily for some time now. It was really interesting making coconut milk yogurt because when they make coconut oil the old-fashioned way, they ferment it and the oil rises to the top. Well, that's what happens with the yogurt, since it's a ferment, too. So, while the coconut milk yogurt tastes incredibly good, the texture is nothing like real yogurt. The milk separates into 3 parts, which seem to stay separated even after refrigeration, with the oil part becoming quite solid. I haven't tried blending it up to see if it would remake it into a nicer consistency yet, but we don't mind the odd texture around here. :-) BTW, you pretty much have to make your own milk from scratch to avoid gums and such. The pecanbread site has a simple way to do this. I did it with a whole coconut, but it's a fair amount of work. Steph an aspie, DS7 aspie, DS3 celiac and DH - all 2 1/2 weeks on SCD, 10 months GFCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 jjcox22 wrote: >I just read you can make the yogurt with coconut milk, does anyone know >about this? >Thanks, > > > > > Well, getting back to the original question...I have done this. I just started out on SCD, but we've used coconut products heavily for some time now. It was really interesting making coconut milk yogurt because when they make coconut oil the old-fashioned way, they ferment it and the oil rises to the top. Well, that's what happens with the yogurt, since it's a ferment, too. So, while the coconut milk yogurt tastes incredibly good, the texture is nothing like real yogurt. The milk separates into 3 parts, which seem to stay separated even after refrigeration, with the oil part becoming quite solid. I haven't tried blending it up to see if it would remake it into a nicer consistency yet, but we don't mind the odd texture around here. :-) BTW, you pretty much have to make your own milk from scratch to avoid gums and such. The pecanbread site has a simple way to do this. I did it with a whole coconut, but it's a fair amount of work. Steph an aspie, DS7 aspie, DS3 celiac and DH - all 2 1/2 weeks on SCD, 10 months GFCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Would anybody kind enough post the coconut milk yogurt recipe? Also can you make coconut milk for the yogurt from coconut flakes mixed or boiled in water? Commercial coconut cream? (I just posted about it in a separately)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Would anybody kind enough post the coconut milk yogurt recipe? Also can you make coconut milk for the yogurt from coconut flakes mixed or boiled in water? Commercial coconut cream? (I just posted about it in a separately)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Would anybody kind enough post the coconut milk yogurt recipe? Also can you make coconut milk for the yogurt from coconut flakes mixed or boiled in water? Commercial coconut cream? (I just posted about it in a separately)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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