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I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that here???

> Robin

Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes the

frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing that

helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is to

simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is inappropriate

or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and my

skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working career

dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

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ok then -

I #(#@$) can't stand this % & @_)@!(% disorder and all the _)#(%_)@

problems accosiated with it! and the * #(*%) # stress I've been (* & trying

to @#! _# deal with is (($*)@ making $(*@_)$% everything )($*%)@ worse!

(%$)(*#@* *%(Q*#@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(oops, I typed a few e-mail addresses!)

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I've had days when I agree exactly with what you said!!!!!!

DITTO - DITTO !!!!!!!

Good vent there!!!

Love, Patti

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ok then -

I #(#@$) can't stand this % & @_)@!(% disorder and all the _)#(%_)@

problems accosiated with it! and the * #(*%) # stress I've been (* & trying

to @#! _# deal with is (($*)@ making $(*@_)$% everything )($*%)@ worse!

(%$)(*#@* *%(Q*#@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(oops, I typed a few e-mail addresses!)

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Hi Robin --

You can vent anytime you want. I have a very small family who really don't want

to be involved, so if anything happens, I'm bascially F****d, too!!! Like Mike

said, you can email privately if you don't want to do it on list (my email is

pmelcher@...). I grew up around and worked in a paper mill for years -- so

I've heard it all, too!!!!!!

All the best, Patti

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I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that here???

> Robin

Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes the

frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing that

helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is to

simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is inappropriate

or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and my

skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working career

dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

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Hi Robin --

You can vent anytime you want. I have a very small family who really don't want

to be involved, so if anything happens, I'm bascially F****d, too!!! Like Mike

said, you can email privately if you don't want to do it on list (my email is

pmelcher@...). I grew up around and worked in a paper mill for years -- so

I've heard it all, too!!!!!!

All the best, Patti

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I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that here???

> Robin

Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes the

frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing that

helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is to

simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is inappropriate

or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and my

skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working career

dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

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Hi Robin --

You can vent anytime you want. I have a very small family who really don't want

to be involved, so if anything happens, I'm bascially F****d, too!!! Like Mike

said, you can email privately if you don't want to do it on list (my email is

pmelcher@...). I grew up around and worked in a paper mill for years -- so

I've heard it all, too!!!!!!

All the best, Patti

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I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that here???

> Robin

Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes the

frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing that

helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is to

simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is inappropriate

or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and my

skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working career

dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

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In a message dated 1/18/04 12:07:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike@...

writes:

<< There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content. >>

Ditto here, except for the working with sailors.......but being a nurse

......believe me, you hear it all and nothing is shocking. Its all human nature

really.....

Hugs,

Sue

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In a message dated 1/18/04 12:07:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike@...

writes:

<< There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content. >>

Ditto here, except for the working with sailors.......but being a nurse

......believe me, you hear it all and nothing is shocking. Its all human nature

really.....

Hugs,

Sue

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In a message dated 1/18/04 12:07:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike@...

writes:

<< There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You can

unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content. >>

Ditto here, except for the working with sailors.......but being a nurse

......believe me, you hear it all and nothing is shocking. Its all human nature

really.....

Hugs,

Sue

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I to don't mind in the slightest, I grew up on a farm and worked in

parks and gardens in the ski fields as a relief cow milker and as a

park ranger (nearly always as the only female) so not much bothers

me. Vent away. Feel free to email me privately too if you so wish at

shazzinoz @ hotmail.com (minus the spaces but if I leave them out it

will not print the entire addy).

Sharon

Canberra

Australia

>

> I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

> alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that

here???

> > Robin

>

>

> Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

> this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes

the

> frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

> world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing

that

> helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

>

> This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

> the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is

to

> simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

> feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is

inappropriate

> or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

>

> My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and

my

> skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working

career

> dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You

can

> unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

>

>

>

> To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

>

>

>

>

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I to don't mind in the slightest, I grew up on a farm and worked in

parks and gardens in the ski fields as a relief cow milker and as a

park ranger (nearly always as the only female) so not much bothers

me. Vent away. Feel free to email me privately too if you so wish at

shazzinoz @ hotmail.com (minus the spaces but if I leave them out it

will not print the entire addy).

Sharon

Canberra

Australia

>

> I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

> alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that

here???

> > Robin

>

>

> Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

> this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes

the

> frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

> world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing

that

> helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

>

> This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

> the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is

to

> simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

> feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is

inappropriate

> or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

>

> My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and

my

> skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working

career

> dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You

can

> unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

>

>

>

> To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

>

>

>

>

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I to don't mind in the slightest, I grew up on a farm and worked in

parks and gardens in the ski fields as a relief cow milker and as a

park ranger (nearly always as the only female) so not much bothers

me. Vent away. Feel free to email me privately too if you so wish at

shazzinoz @ hotmail.com (minus the spaces but if I leave them out it

will not print the entire addy).

Sharon

Canberra

Australia

>

> I have to be very careful because I don't have any family and am

> alone, so if something goes wrong, I'm F****d. Can I say that

here???

> > Robin

>

>

> Just speaking for myself (although I am sure I am not alone in

> this), you can say anything on this list that helps. Sometimes

the

> frustrations of battling with a seemingly unknowing and uncaring

> world can be almost overwhelming. And sometimes the only thing

that

> helps is to vent and get it out of your system.

>

> This list is a resource at many, many levels. The obvious one is

> the sharing of information. But an equally important purpose is

to

> simply be there for each other in times of need. But if you ever

> feel the need to vent in a way that you might feel is

inappropriate

> or offensive to the list ... you have my private email address.

>

> My shoulders are broad (although not as broad as my waist), and

my

> skin is thick. And I spent the last 15 years of my working

career

> dealing with sailors. There ain't NOTHING I haven't heard! You

can

> unload and vent with me at any time to your heart's content.

>

>

>

> To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Yea, if my oldest daughter uses profanilty (which she seems to be doing a lot of

lately. Don't know if it's her age (17) her anxiety from all her health issues,

who she's hanging around with, or if she just being a *$ & $!) I get very angry

with her. I actually smaked her the other night, after some terrible things

came out of her mouth, I told her to knock of the swearing, and she said " screw

you! "

Oh! I couldn't believe it! My darling wonderful daughter!

Somehow, it's much worse hearing it from her than anyone else.

I sure do hope this is just a phase!

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Yea, if my oldest daughter uses profanilty (which she seems to be doing a lot of

lately. Don't know if it's her age (17) her anxiety from all her health issues,

who she's hanging around with, or if she just being a *$ & $!) I get very angry

with her. I actually smaked her the other night, after some terrible things

came out of her mouth, I told her to knock of the swearing, and she said " screw

you! "

Oh! I couldn't believe it! My darling wonderful daughter!

Somehow, it's much worse hearing it from her than anyone else.

I sure do hope this is just a phase!

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Yea, if my oldest daughter uses profanilty (which she seems to be doing a lot of

lately. Don't know if it's her age (17) her anxiety from all her health issues,

who she's hanging around with, or if she just being a *$ & $!) I get very angry

with her. I actually smaked her the other night, after some terrible things

came out of her mouth, I told her to knock of the swearing, and she said " screw

you! "

Oh! I couldn't believe it! My darling wonderful daughter!

Somehow, it's much worse hearing it from her than anyone else.

I sure do hope this is just a phase!

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In a message dated 1/19/2004 6:16:09 PM Central Standard Time,

monica-jb@... writes:

Oh! I couldn't believe it! My darling wonderful daughter!

Somehow, it's much worse hearing it from her than anyone else.

I sure do hope this is just a phase!

, I do think at this age, the kids feel they " have " to make " clear " ,

their independent streak! I do think it's a phase, at least it was with my

daughter. There was a time when we hardly got along at all, and by the time she

graduated high school, we had become best friends. She even had me as her

only attendent at her wedding! I was so honored!

Love Lana

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In a message dated 1/19/2004 6:16:09 PM Central Standard Time,

monica-jb@... writes:

Oh! I couldn't believe it! My darling wonderful daughter!

Somehow, it's much worse hearing it from her than anyone else.

I sure do hope this is just a phase!

, I do think at this age, the kids feel they " have " to make " clear " ,

their independent streak! I do think it's a phase, at least it was with my

daughter. There was a time when we hardly got along at all, and by the time she

graduated high school, we had become best friends. She even had me as her

only attendent at her wedding! I was so honored!

Love Lana

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We all need to vent at time, don't we? It will pass, just have patience -

and if you're a believer, prayer helps too, in my mind! :) Enjoy every minute,

they pass much too quickly!

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

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We all need to vent at time, don't we? It will pass, just have patience -

and if you're a believer, prayer helps too, in my mind! :) Enjoy every minute,

they pass much too quickly!

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

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We all need to vent at time, don't we? It will pass, just have patience -

and if you're a believer, prayer helps too, in my mind! :) Enjoy every minute,

they pass much too quickly!

Love Lana

" 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those

who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' "

Dr. Suess

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That's so nice to hear.

and I have been so close since she was born. We have a very open,

wonderful relationship.

I know she doesn't tell me everything, but she sure tells me much more than most

teenage girls tell their moms. She can talk about anything with me. You

wouldn't believe some of the things she's come to me with. and I have

the same kind of relationship, but she's not tried to test me yet.

It's just been the last few weeks that 's been testing me.

I hope it passes quickly, cause I can't stand it!

(Of course, I'm not mentioning the way she was when she was in the hospital.

Boy, did she say some pretty mean things to me then. But, I think that was just

because she was so sick, and I was there, and she knew I wouldn't leave or yell

at her. She needed someone to vent to.)

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That's so nice to hear.

and I have been so close since she was born. We have a very open,

wonderful relationship.

I know she doesn't tell me everything, but she sure tells me much more than most

teenage girls tell their moms. She can talk about anything with me. You

wouldn't believe some of the things she's come to me with. and I have

the same kind of relationship, but she's not tried to test me yet.

It's just been the last few weeks that 's been testing me.

I hope it passes quickly, cause I can't stand it!

(Of course, I'm not mentioning the way she was when she was in the hospital.

Boy, did she say some pretty mean things to me then. But, I think that was just

because she was so sick, and I was there, and she knew I wouldn't leave or yell

at her. She needed someone to vent to.)

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