Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Wow....some of you people are amazing. First of all, this is in no way a scientific study or scientific poll. It was never meant to be. When I phrased the questions, I used the word BELIEVE in a broad sense. In other words in your OPINION or YOUR EXPERIENCE...blah...blah...blah. Check out other groups here on YAHOO and you will see nothing but questions of opinion or belief that something IS. And if you don't have PN, on my poll you could mark... I DON'T KNOW. Here is a poll that I found on a thyroid site on Yahoo: If you feel you are on a OPTIMAL DOSE of Armour, meaning you have NO MORE SYMPTOMS OF BEING HYPO (though you could still be working on other issues), check the amount below which most closely represents how much Armour you are taking... Ron, would you say that that was a scientific poll? You appear to be a scientist or someone who deals in FACT and not OPINION. Have you ever heard of an OPINION poll? I don't mean to sound like I am angry or shouting...but please lighten up. :-) > > > > I'm sorry Ron, but you could not be more wrong. It is very important > > for us here to let others know how we feel or what we believe works > > or helps us, etc. If you only listen to scientic studies, you would > > belive that margerine is good for you and eggs are bad for you. At > > least that was the thinking in the 80's. > > > > > > > > It's that attitude that makes you a sucker for every snake oil > salesman and con artist out there. They are long on slick talk, > hyped " testimonials, " and short on science. What you are conducting > here is a poorly designed clinical study of a very few people, many of > whom may not even have personal experience with peripheral > neuropathy. What's the point of someone saying that they don't > believe controlling blood sugar helps neuropathy? Their " opinion " has > absolutely no value. There are already plenty of studies that show it > often does, and even plenty of people here who can " testify " that it > does. For someone to say they don't believe it does is ridiculous > because it is simply not true. > > Science sometimes is not right, but it is an orderly ongoing process > of acquiring knowledge. However, " opinion " is of no value when trying > to answer questions of fact. It's reasonable to ask a group of people > with peripheral neuropathy if they have been improved by controlling > their blood sugar. That is collecting data, which can then hopefully > yield a conclusion. Asking people whether they " believe " controlling > blood sugar helps PN is no different than asking people if > they " believe " the moon is made of green cheese. Science has proven > that not to be true. People can still " believe " the moon is made of > green cheese or that controlling blood sugar never helps PN, but > their " opinion " is worthless. > > We don't try to answer questions of fact with beliefs. > > Ron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Sandy, Thanks for your comments. I think you understand the purpose of the Yahoo polls. > > The survey is not any different than if he asked the group how many people have had something go away with treatment or not and people posted their answers - just a more controlled way for them to see what the answers were. > > If you don't like or want to participate in the survey, then you don't have to. > > Sandy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Sandy, Thanks for your comments. I think you understand the purpose of the Yahoo polls. > > The survey is not any different than if he asked the group how many people have had something go away with treatment or not and people posted their answers - just a more controlled way for them to see what the answers were. > > If you don't like or want to participate in the survey, then you don't have to. > > Sandy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 You are welcome . I see things this way - we are all on these groups to help each other with this disease, whether it is sharing our findings, our opinion, links to information, whatever. It bothers me when someone asks something, whether in the form of a poll or generalized question and it gets picked apart for incorrect terminology, or you didn't ask it correctly or in the proper way or whatever. Fact is you were asking something of the group. If someone doesn't like something about the post itself, or can't offer anything constructive in a nice way, then move on. If posting a response to someone is going to make them feel bad about posting, then why be on the group - that is not what we are here for. Debating and discussing is fine - it is all in the way things are said to each other and how they come across over the internet. One can reword a sentence - even in the form of a question - that makes it non-accusatory, if that makes any sense. I know where Ron is coming from - I know he likes facts and scientific data and I respect him for that and this is an important contribution to the list. But since we all know that our various experiences and opinions with different aspects of diabetes have gotten us further with tight control than the " scientific community " has offered at times . . . . . . . . those experiences and opinions can make a difference and can be equally important. Sandy Re: New poll for diabetes Sandy, Thanks for your comments. I think you understand the purpose of the Yahoo polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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