Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Dear Betty: I can tell you what my psychologist told me when I literally became afraid to go to the bathroom after having a lower GI bleed. This was not long after someone I knew on the list had a bowel perforation and needed emergency surgery. He said first to plan whatever I would need in case of an emergency complication (or worse) and get that in place, then to use thought stopping to counteract the recurring thoughts. He pointed out the more stressed out I got, the more my heart rate and BP went up further putting me at risk of having a problem. He said, first to allow myself only so much time or so many times a day to think those thoughts. The rest of the time, to make a conscious effort to say to myself something like " I am going to enjoy today and not think about this " . When you have a specific thought to counteract this tape that plays over and over in your mind, it becomes easier, with practice to shove back these thoughts. This way, you aren't denying the problem exists or it isn't a legitimate one but only allowing so much of your mental and emotional energy to be used up on something you have limited ability to change. WHen you have thoughts on one topic always on your mind, it can get to the point that it interferes with your ability to enjoy what time you will have left, however long that may be and to me, that is a really terrible consequence. I am really bad at not being able to get things that are worrying me off my mind. It is like it is there every second. I found this is the only thing that has helped me. I do feel more content, although nothing has changed for the better. I am constantly worried about money and have been using this to try to gradually push those thoughts back because it had gotten to the point that I could hardly haev a normal conversation with people or even go grocery shopping without feeling panic and guilt for spending money (on top of the health stuff I have on my mind) I personally can't get into the positive thinking line - convincing myself things are fine or going to be fine, when in taking a logical look at my reality are not going to be fine. I don't feel I can lie to myself. This is why I like this technique, and maybe you will too. It allows you to keep these thoughts from being so harmful. It doesn't discount very real fears. It lets you set guidelines to keep these things you can do little to change from encroaching too much - so you can still get some quality out of your life inspite of the very real worry Hope this helps Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 I have VEDS, and have had three major operations in the stomach. The second last one was due to severe internal bleeding into the bowel. The last one was adhesions on the bowel which resulted in having an Ileostomy fitted. Although I wear a 'bag', I consider it one of the better decisions made by the surgeons. All the best Colin Ormiston colin@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 > Dear Betty: > The rest of the time, to make a conscious effort to say to myself something like " I am going to enjoy today and not think about this " . When you have a specific thought to counteract this tape that plays over and over in your mind, it becomes easier, with practice to shove back these thoughts. Excellent suggestion, but one point needs clarification. What you are suggesting goes by many different " names. " It can be " The Power of Positive Thinking, " " Visualization, " a form of " self hypno-therapy. " Every form of massage/bodywork that I have studied gets into this to some degree - some quite heavily. And everything I have read and heard from any of them all stress one key thing - the subconscious mind can not process a negative. It does not matter what tne vizualized goal is, it must be framed positively. Using behaviour modification as an example, let's say you want to stop smoking or biting your fingernails or losing your temper. If you frame your thought or goal in terms of " I will stop " or " I will quit " or " I will not " you just reenforce the behaviour that you want to change. The subconscious mind blocks out the stop/quit/not and you end up with just the opposite effect. Instead, visualize the positive results of the changed behaviour. How will you " feel " if you stop smoking, how will your hands " look " with long fingernails, how " serene or peaceful " would you be if your temper was under control. By framing a thought that you will " not think about this " you just end up thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 > Dear Betty: > The rest of the time, to make a conscious effort to say to myself something like " I am going to enjoy today and not think about this " . When you have a specific thought to counteract this tape that plays over and over in your mind, it becomes easier, with practice to shove back these thoughts. Excellent suggestion, but one point needs clarification. What you are suggesting goes by many different " names. " It can be " The Power of Positive Thinking, " " Visualization, " a form of " self hypno-therapy. " Every form of massage/bodywork that I have studied gets into this to some degree - some quite heavily. And everything I have read and heard from any of them all stress one key thing - the subconscious mind can not process a negative. It does not matter what tne vizualized goal is, it must be framed positively. Using behaviour modification as an example, let's say you want to stop smoking or biting your fingernails or losing your temper. If you frame your thought or goal in terms of " I will stop " or " I will quit " or " I will not " you just reenforce the behaviour that you want to change. The subconscious mind blocks out the stop/quit/not and you end up with just the opposite effect. Instead, visualize the positive results of the changed behaviour. How will you " feel " if you stop smoking, how will your hands " look " with long fingernails, how " serene or peaceful " would you be if your temper was under control. By framing a thought that you will " not think about this " you just end up thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Hi Betty, I just want to tell you about something I did after my much loved grandmother died. She was well into her 90's. I hadn't seen much of her in many years. She had dementia, and when I did visit her the last time, she didn't even know who I was. She was the most loved, most important person in my life. She was my one " safe zone " when I was young. I always thought I'd have one more chance to see her again. It was almost like I thought she was the one who was gonna beat the mortality thing. I had a very hard time coming to term with her death. I was in England, and she was in New York. She died in the middle of winter, and we couldn't have her funeral until spring. So I spent months in a state of depression and anxiety. I was completely devistated. My friend, also an American, whose husband was working on the same progect with my husband, lived next door. She is a psychologist. She had me come to her house to try something called " interactive guided imagery " . She got me into a very relaxed state (sort of like semi-hypnotised me), and guided me through a visualization. She had me imagine my grandma, where she is now, what she is doing, etc. I imagined my grandma sitting on the grass, under a tree on a hillside. She was holding her baby girl who was stillborn (which she never got over), talking with her much loved sister (whose death she never got over). She was so happy in my visualization. It was a sunny day and the birds were singing. Grandpa was off in the distance, and they were arguing about stupid stuff (which they always did). Then my friend asked me to ask my grandma for a gift. I did, and grandma pointed to the birds. She always loved birds - had canaries in her home, and almost every day, she'd have me stop what I was doing to listen to the wild birds sing. During this session, I ended up blubbering like a fool. It was so powerful, and it all came into my mind on it's own, sort of like a movie playing in my head. When we were done, and I finally stoped crying, I went home, exhausted. Then, I felt better. It was like all that devistation was washed away. I was able to finally come to terms with it all. Now, when I think of my grandma, I see her there on that hillside, happy and content, and when I hear birds, It makes me think of her, and I'm happy. I'm happy that I had the time I did with her. And, I remember the comfort and love she gave so freely to me when I was young. I still get a little teary eyed thinking of her sometimes, but that picture of her always comes into my mind, and it comforts me. I don't know if this is something you would want to try, but I wanted to tell you about it because it has helped me so much. Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Betty, Find the joy in everything around you and know just how precious your time is, how much people love and care about you and just try to realize how much of an impact you make on the lives of those around you. through this, I hope you find peace for the anxiety you are feeling and through this, I hope you will find the courage to face each day with enthusiasm and hope. You have a full plate and your heart is heavy, and for that I feel badly for you, but know that each day is special and each day that you have the opportunity to simply breathe in fresh air is a gift. I do not know if you are a spiritual person or not, but if you are and are a member of a church, look to your leader there and try to find some answers you can live with. I wish I could remove your burden, but knowing that I can't, I am compelled to tell you that I happily share it with you. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Betty, Find the joy in everything around you and know just how precious your time is, how much people love and care about you and just try to realize how much of an impact you make on the lives of those around you. through this, I hope you find peace for the anxiety you are feeling and through this, I hope you will find the courage to face each day with enthusiasm and hope. You have a full plate and your heart is heavy, and for that I feel badly for you, but know that each day is special and each day that you have the opportunity to simply breathe in fresh air is a gift. I do not know if you are a spiritual person or not, but if you are and are a member of a church, look to your leader there and try to find some answers you can live with. I wish I could remove your burden, but knowing that I can't, I am compelled to tell you that I happily share it with you. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 I think that's a WONDERFUL thing to do, , and what a wonderful memory for you! A great tribute to your grandmother! Love Lana " 'Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' " Dr. Suess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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