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I feel so very blessed and fortunate when I read about all of you who

are in constant pain, and also those of you who are suffering from

depression. I only have to deal with what to eat , remember to take my

meds, and then decide how far I want to walk! My first DM doctor asked

me on every visit if I was at all depressed, and while I sometimes get

discouraged, I've never suffered from depression, and I'm so very

thankful for that. My poor mother was bi-polar, and also was type 2. I

saw the anguish she suffered and it wasn't anything I would wish on my

worst enemy! She was hospitalized at least once a year because her

depression was so deep, and when she was in that pit, she could have

cared less about anything else much less controlling her diabetes. I

wonder how it affected the quality of her life because she was always

seemed so unhappy when she was in the valley, and maxing out her credit

cards when she was on top. Sadly, the periods of normalcy were few and

far between.

Anyhow I just wanted to say that I admire all of you, and respect the

fact that you're reaching out and sharing your stories in hopes of

offering support to others. Isn't that what it's all about?

serah

type 2

Metformin, Avandia & Zocor

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I feel so very blessed and fortunate when I read about all of you who

are in constant pain, and also those of you who are suffering from

depression. I only have to deal with what to eat , remember to take my

meds, and then decide how far I want to walk! My first DM doctor asked

me on every visit if I was at all depressed, and while I sometimes get

discouraged, I've never suffered from depression, and I'm so very

thankful for that. My poor mother was bi-polar, and also was type 2. I

saw the anguish she suffered and it wasn't anything I would wish on my

worst enemy! She was hospitalized at least once a year because her

depression was so deep, and when she was in that pit, she could have

cared less about anything else much less controlling her diabetes. I

wonder how it affected the quality of her life because she was always

seemed so unhappy when she was in the valley, and maxing out her credit

cards when she was on top. Sadly, the periods of normalcy were few and

far between.

Anyhow I just wanted to say that I admire all of you, and respect the

fact that you're reaching out and sharing your stories in hopes of

offering support to others. Isn't that what it's all about?

serah

type 2

Metformin, Avandia & Zocor

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>And mostly I've done it to myself.<

I might debate that. I think that our culture makes it entirely too easy to

fault ourselves. And if we are women, and/or overweight, censure comes down on

our heads like hard rain. I believe that we are socialized to feel guilty when

we don't " shape " up.

> I was in the depths of a deep depression all angry at myself for not just

fixing it, blaming myself and using guilt to try and make myslef snap out of

it, pull myself up by my bootstraps. Didn't work.<

No, it doesn't.

>sometimes...I think I'm doing depression or therapy wrong and that it's my

fault I " m such a loser. I recognize the depression talking, but recognizing

it doesn't always result in making the thoughts going away.<

There is no way you can do therapy wrong. It's the therapist's job to find a

way to make it work. That's why we pay them. All we need to do is cooperate to

the best of our ability.

>I was so ashamed I didn't tell anyone for quite a while, and never have told

some people for fear of hearing that it's all in my head and I should just snap

out of it and get moving and get on with my life.<

I didn't either. And I have heard all the psychobabble I ever want to hear

about " snapping out of it. "

>Is it self pity to recognize that we have health, mental or physical, issues

and may not be able to fix them on our own? Am I weak and lazy to have

diabetes? Why think that if I have mental health issues?

Exactly.

>Some people have been lucky in getting the genes or whatever to be able to be

optimistic despite tremendously bad things happening.<

My ex is relentlessly optimistic--I think it's partly heredity--and it does

have its down side.

>It's that kind of resilience that I seek, and it's my lack of resilience and

my pessimism and my hopelessness that hold me back. And when you're in a deep

depression or even just a constant low level depression, if not both, it's

very, very hard to find a way to overcome these things.<

I wouldn't try to splint my own leg, and I don't try to crawl out of depression

by myself.

>Is it cowardice to not be able to fix it on your own, or is it courageous to

ask for help?<

I saw an article years ago about a guy (in India, I think) who tried to remove

his own gall bladder because he couldn't afford a doctor. He was doing pretty

well too, unti blood loss affected his focus. He was courageous, determined,

and he almost died. Some operations require expert help.

>A group like this...has helped me to be more open.<

Me too.

>I'm not into martyrdom, stoically suffering and not getting help<

Why should you be? Why should anyone be? Some things may have to be borne, as

courageously as we can, but if we can improve the quality of our lives by

asking for help, why not?

Hugs, Dianne

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>And mostly I've done it to myself.<

I might debate that. I think that our culture makes it entirely too easy to

fault ourselves. And if we are women, and/or overweight, censure comes down on

our heads like hard rain. I believe that we are socialized to feel guilty when

we don't " shape " up.

> I was in the depths of a deep depression all angry at myself for not just

fixing it, blaming myself and using guilt to try and make myslef snap out of

it, pull myself up by my bootstraps. Didn't work.<

No, it doesn't.

>sometimes...I think I'm doing depression or therapy wrong and that it's my

fault I " m such a loser. I recognize the depression talking, but recognizing

it doesn't always result in making the thoughts going away.<

There is no way you can do therapy wrong. It's the therapist's job to find a

way to make it work. That's why we pay them. All we need to do is cooperate to

the best of our ability.

>I was so ashamed I didn't tell anyone for quite a while, and never have told

some people for fear of hearing that it's all in my head and I should just snap

out of it and get moving and get on with my life.<

I didn't either. And I have heard all the psychobabble I ever want to hear

about " snapping out of it. "

>Is it self pity to recognize that we have health, mental or physical, issues

and may not be able to fix them on our own? Am I weak and lazy to have

diabetes? Why think that if I have mental health issues?

Exactly.

>Some people have been lucky in getting the genes or whatever to be able to be

optimistic despite tremendously bad things happening.<

My ex is relentlessly optimistic--I think it's partly heredity--and it does

have its down side.

>It's that kind of resilience that I seek, and it's my lack of resilience and

my pessimism and my hopelessness that hold me back. And when you're in a deep

depression or even just a constant low level depression, if not both, it's

very, very hard to find a way to overcome these things.<

I wouldn't try to splint my own leg, and I don't try to crawl out of depression

by myself.

>Is it cowardice to not be able to fix it on your own, or is it courageous to

ask for help?<

I saw an article years ago about a guy (in India, I think) who tried to remove

his own gall bladder because he couldn't afford a doctor. He was doing pretty

well too, unti blood loss affected his focus. He was courageous, determined,

and he almost died. Some operations require expert help.

>A group like this...has helped me to be more open.<

Me too.

>I'm not into martyrdom, stoically suffering and not getting help<

Why should you be? Why should anyone be? Some things may have to be borne, as

courageously as we can, but if we can improve the quality of our lives by

asking for help, why not?

Hugs, Dianne

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>And mostly I've done it to myself.<

I might debate that. I think that our culture makes it entirely too easy to

fault ourselves. And if we are women, and/or overweight, censure comes down on

our heads like hard rain. I believe that we are socialized to feel guilty when

we don't " shape " up.

> I was in the depths of a deep depression all angry at myself for not just

fixing it, blaming myself and using guilt to try and make myslef snap out of

it, pull myself up by my bootstraps. Didn't work.<

No, it doesn't.

>sometimes...I think I'm doing depression or therapy wrong and that it's my

fault I " m such a loser. I recognize the depression talking, but recognizing

it doesn't always result in making the thoughts going away.<

There is no way you can do therapy wrong. It's the therapist's job to find a

way to make it work. That's why we pay them. All we need to do is cooperate to

the best of our ability.

>I was so ashamed I didn't tell anyone for quite a while, and never have told

some people for fear of hearing that it's all in my head and I should just snap

out of it and get moving and get on with my life.<

I didn't either. And I have heard all the psychobabble I ever want to hear

about " snapping out of it. "

>Is it self pity to recognize that we have health, mental or physical, issues

and may not be able to fix them on our own? Am I weak and lazy to have

diabetes? Why think that if I have mental health issues?

Exactly.

>Some people have been lucky in getting the genes or whatever to be able to be

optimistic despite tremendously bad things happening.<

My ex is relentlessly optimistic--I think it's partly heredity--and it does

have its down side.

>It's that kind of resilience that I seek, and it's my lack of resilience and

my pessimism and my hopelessness that hold me back. And when you're in a deep

depression or even just a constant low level depression, if not both, it's

very, very hard to find a way to overcome these things.<

I wouldn't try to splint my own leg, and I don't try to crawl out of depression

by myself.

>Is it cowardice to not be able to fix it on your own, or is it courageous to

ask for help?<

I saw an article years ago about a guy (in India, I think) who tried to remove

his own gall bladder because he couldn't afford a doctor. He was doing pretty

well too, unti blood loss affected his focus. He was courageous, determined,

and he almost died. Some operations require expert help.

>A group like this...has helped me to be more open.<

Me too.

>I'm not into martyrdom, stoically suffering and not getting help<

Why should you be? Why should anyone be? Some things may have to be borne, as

courageously as we can, but if we can improve the quality of our lives by

asking for help, why not?

Hugs, Dianne

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