Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 First off I've got to thank Mike for introducing the topic of accupressure. I had accupunture done but it wasn't very successful for me. I did some reading and researching and did accupressure for my spine, insomnia, nausea, and headache and wow this actually does work! Best of all I've tried it on my dad and he's found I can get his really bad migranes 15 or 20 percent better. :-) I've been using the end of a rounded pen and that seems to work well. Anyway to get to the point LoL here is a link to a site that lists various accupressure points along with very good diagrams of the point location for a list of quite a few different problems from different types of indigestion, insomnia, back pain, headache etc... But you should really read the intro page first so you understand how it all works and get an idea on how try it out. http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html Hope this helps others too! And again, *THANK YOU* Mike!!!! -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 First off also, thanks for the vote of support about using acupressure. Yes, it does work. I would not be such a vocal proponent of it if it didn't. Second, thanks for the link. I added it to my " favorites " so I can go through it in more detail. But a quick first pass through looking at a variety of illustrated points, raises some serious questions in my mind about recommending that any of you use the site. My first criticism is that the illustrations are not precise enough. He admits that they are only " approximate " and I can tell you he is not wrong on that statement. Secondly, he is flat out wrong that you have to use " deep probing pressure " to properly stimulate a point. Generally, deep, heavy pressure is used to strengthen or tonify a meridian. Light pressure is used to sedate the meridian if it is in excess. Personally, I never worry about it one way or the other because I am working two points simultaneously and what I am looking for is a sense of balance. I very rarely use deep pressure; firm, yes; deep and probing, no. My third criticism is his numbering system. His numbers bear no relationship to anything and nowhere does he tell what point is actually involved. Many times you will find two or even more points from different meridians located very close together. You have no idea from his illustrations what you are dealing with. Jin Shin Do also uses its own numbering system (something that I'm not wild about, but there is a reason for it that I understand and accept). I have no idea what his reason is. I also noticed in a couple of places that he had " Arthritis - Not to be Used. " That makes no sense to me at all because acupressure in general is not contraindicated for arthritis. I have arthritis, my dog has arthritis, my whole family has some degree of arthritis. I use acupressure and polarity on all of us all the time. Believe me, I am not being critical about your posting the link. My first reaction was " yippee - we got us a tool here! " I immediately opened it up, not to find fault with it, but to see how we could use it. I was very disappointed that I couldn't endorse it whole heartedly. On a side note - which points are you using for your Dad's headaches? I might be able to give you a couple that might work better. Let's see if we can get you to a better percentage. Also - you said you were using the end of a rounded pen. I assume by this that you do not use your finger or thumb tips, which means I further assume that you are not actually " feeling " the energy. If you aren't, you need to shift gears so you do start to feel it. Your effectiveness will skyrocket once you do. > First off I've got to thank Mike for introducing the topic of > accupressure. I had accupunture done but it wasn't very successful > for me. I did some reading and researching and did accupressure for > my spine, insomnia, nausea, and headache and wow this actually does > work! Best of all I've tried it on my dad and he's found I can get > his really bad migranes 15 or 20 percent better. :-) I've been > using the end of a rounded pen and that seems to work well. > > Anyway to get to the point LoL here is a link to a site that lists > various accupressure points along with very good diagrams of the > point location for a list of quite a few different problems from > different types of indigestion, insomnia, back pain, headache etc... > But you should really read the intro page first so you understand how > it all works and get an idea on how try it out. > > http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html > > Hope this helps others too! And again, *THANK YOU* Mike!!!! > > -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 First off also, thanks for the vote of support about using acupressure. Yes, it does work. I would not be such a vocal proponent of it if it didn't. Second, thanks for the link. I added it to my " favorites " so I can go through it in more detail. But a quick first pass through looking at a variety of illustrated points, raises some serious questions in my mind about recommending that any of you use the site. My first criticism is that the illustrations are not precise enough. He admits that they are only " approximate " and I can tell you he is not wrong on that statement. Secondly, he is flat out wrong that you have to use " deep probing pressure " to properly stimulate a point. Generally, deep, heavy pressure is used to strengthen or tonify a meridian. Light pressure is used to sedate the meridian if it is in excess. Personally, I never worry about it one way or the other because I am working two points simultaneously and what I am looking for is a sense of balance. I very rarely use deep pressure; firm, yes; deep and probing, no. My third criticism is his numbering system. His numbers bear no relationship to anything and nowhere does he tell what point is actually involved. Many times you will find two or even more points from different meridians located very close together. You have no idea from his illustrations what you are dealing with. Jin Shin Do also uses its own numbering system (something that I'm not wild about, but there is a reason for it that I understand and accept). I have no idea what his reason is. I also noticed in a couple of places that he had " Arthritis - Not to be Used. " That makes no sense to me at all because acupressure in general is not contraindicated for arthritis. I have arthritis, my dog has arthritis, my whole family has some degree of arthritis. I use acupressure and polarity on all of us all the time. Believe me, I am not being critical about your posting the link. My first reaction was " yippee - we got us a tool here! " I immediately opened it up, not to find fault with it, but to see how we could use it. I was very disappointed that I couldn't endorse it whole heartedly. On a side note - which points are you using for your Dad's headaches? I might be able to give you a couple that might work better. Let's see if we can get you to a better percentage. Also - you said you were using the end of a rounded pen. I assume by this that you do not use your finger or thumb tips, which means I further assume that you are not actually " feeling " the energy. If you aren't, you need to shift gears so you do start to feel it. Your effectiveness will skyrocket once you do. > First off I've got to thank Mike for introducing the topic of > accupressure. I had accupunture done but it wasn't very successful > for me. I did some reading and researching and did accupressure for > my spine, insomnia, nausea, and headache and wow this actually does > work! Best of all I've tried it on my dad and he's found I can get > his really bad migranes 15 or 20 percent better. :-) I've been > using the end of a rounded pen and that seems to work well. > > Anyway to get to the point LoL here is a link to a site that lists > various accupressure points along with very good diagrams of the > point location for a list of quite a few different problems from > different types of indigestion, insomnia, back pain, headache etc... > But you should really read the intro page first so you understand how > it all works and get an idea on how try it out. > > http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html > > Hope this helps others too! And again, *THANK YOU* Mike!!!! > > -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 First off also, thanks for the vote of support about using acupressure. Yes, it does work. I would not be such a vocal proponent of it if it didn't. Second, thanks for the link. I added it to my " favorites " so I can go through it in more detail. But a quick first pass through looking at a variety of illustrated points, raises some serious questions in my mind about recommending that any of you use the site. My first criticism is that the illustrations are not precise enough. He admits that they are only " approximate " and I can tell you he is not wrong on that statement. Secondly, he is flat out wrong that you have to use " deep probing pressure " to properly stimulate a point. Generally, deep, heavy pressure is used to strengthen or tonify a meridian. Light pressure is used to sedate the meridian if it is in excess. Personally, I never worry about it one way or the other because I am working two points simultaneously and what I am looking for is a sense of balance. I very rarely use deep pressure; firm, yes; deep and probing, no. My third criticism is his numbering system. His numbers bear no relationship to anything and nowhere does he tell what point is actually involved. Many times you will find two or even more points from different meridians located very close together. You have no idea from his illustrations what you are dealing with. Jin Shin Do also uses its own numbering system (something that I'm not wild about, but there is a reason for it that I understand and accept). I have no idea what his reason is. I also noticed in a couple of places that he had " Arthritis - Not to be Used. " That makes no sense to me at all because acupressure in general is not contraindicated for arthritis. I have arthritis, my dog has arthritis, my whole family has some degree of arthritis. I use acupressure and polarity on all of us all the time. Believe me, I am not being critical about your posting the link. My first reaction was " yippee - we got us a tool here! " I immediately opened it up, not to find fault with it, but to see how we could use it. I was very disappointed that I couldn't endorse it whole heartedly. On a side note - which points are you using for your Dad's headaches? I might be able to give you a couple that might work better. Let's see if we can get you to a better percentage. Also - you said you were using the end of a rounded pen. I assume by this that you do not use your finger or thumb tips, which means I further assume that you are not actually " feeling " the energy. If you aren't, you need to shift gears so you do start to feel it. Your effectiveness will skyrocket once you do. > First off I've got to thank Mike for introducing the topic of > accupressure. I had accupunture done but it wasn't very successful > for me. I did some reading and researching and did accupressure for > my spine, insomnia, nausea, and headache and wow this actually does > work! Best of all I've tried it on my dad and he's found I can get > his really bad migranes 15 or 20 percent better. :-) I've been > using the end of a rounded pen and that seems to work well. > > Anyway to get to the point LoL here is a link to a site that lists > various accupressure points along with very good diagrams of the > point location for a list of quite a few different problems from > different types of indigestion, insomnia, back pain, headache etc... > But you should really read the intro page first so you understand how > it all works and get an idea on how try it out. > > http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html > > Hope this helps others too! And again, *THANK YOU* Mike!!!! > > -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Hi Mike, Thanks for looking the site over for me. For Dad's headaches I used point 11 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#11) point 4 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#4) and point 2 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#2) For his back I was using points 4 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#4) and point 5 http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#5 He found point 5 to be the most effective of all of them. My finger joints are unstable, hyperextend and sublux, and are generally quite sore and applying pressure with them is just out of the question. I measure where the point is and Dad tells me if he feels I've hit it right or not. I would love any suggestions on migraine and backache points for dad! Thank you so much Mike :-) -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Hi Mike, Thanks for looking the site over for me. For Dad's headaches I used point 11 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#11) point 4 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#4) and point 2 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#2) For his back I was using points 4 (http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#4) and point 5 http://www.geocities.com/jrh_iii/acupressure/acupoints.html#5 He found point 5 to be the most effective of all of them. My finger joints are unstable, hyperextend and sublux, and are generally quite sore and applying pressure with them is just out of the question. I measure where the point is and Dad tells me if he feels I've hit it right or not. I would love any suggestions on migraine and backache points for dad! Thank you so much Mike :-) -Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 > My finger joints are unstable, hyperextend and sublux, and are > generally quite sore and applying pressure with them is just out of the question. > -Rhea I will get to you later on the other questions, but have you checked into the Silver Ring Splints for your fingers? If not, I have will have Barb get you the info on them. There are also some massage " tools " that are designed for applying pressure and for saving your thumb and finger joints. Some are meant specifically for acupressure or trigger points, others are for deep tissue work in general. I hadn't thought about linking any of these to the list like I did with the Theracane, but it might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 > My finger joints are unstable, hyperextend and sublux, and are > generally quite sore and applying pressure with them is just out of the question. > -Rhea I will get to you later on the other questions, but have you checked into the Silver Ring Splints for your fingers? If not, I have will have Barb get you the info on them. There are also some massage " tools " that are designed for applying pressure and for saving your thumb and finger joints. Some are meant specifically for acupressure or trigger points, others are for deep tissue work in general. I hadn't thought about linking any of these to the list like I did with the Theracane, but it might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 > My finger joints are unstable, hyperextend and sublux, and are > generally quite sore and applying pressure with them is just out of the question. > -Rhea I will get to you later on the other questions, but have you checked into the Silver Ring Splints for your fingers? If not, I have will have Barb get you the info on them. There are also some massage " tools " that are designed for applying pressure and for saving your thumb and finger joints. Some are meant specifically for acupressure or trigger points, others are for deep tissue work in general. I hadn't thought about linking any of these to the list like I did with the Theracane, but it might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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