Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 In a message dated 4/7/2002 12:32:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, pancreatitis writes: > So hopefully I will get something to control the pain. I am not willing > to go back to DR. Lehman like my doc. here would like. I just can't keep > affording his outragious fees and my insurance pays alot less for him > because he is 'out of network' . I just don't understand all that because > if no one here in Grand Rapids specializes in this field what is a person > to do? , > > Dr. Lehman is also out of network for me, as well. I am lucky that I have > a supportive GI here in Mesa, AZ and he has talked with Dr. Lehman. We > have been able to do some " doctoring " over the phone. Of course, if ERCPs > are needed I would have to go back to Dr. Lehman as my GI here won't do > anymore on me (he has done six and the stenting hasn't helped). Actually, > Dr. Lehman has told me he won't do anymore because he doesn't think the > stenting is helping (I have pancreas divisum - but " idiopathic > pancreatitis " - go figure) > > I also got the routine from my insurance that they have just as competent > drs. here in the Phoenix area, so they aren't willing to pay for Dr. > Lehman. My question to them is WHERE ARE THEY!?!?!? Of course, they don't > exist - just because you are a GI doesn't mean you are a pancreatitis > expert. Cecilia soce@... Mesa, Arizona Arizona Chapter Representative Pancreatitis Association International http://pancassociation.org/storieshome.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. God Bless, ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. God Bless, ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dear , I think that is a noble and good idea. HUGS, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dear , I think that is a noble and good idea. HUGS, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dear , I think that is a noble and good idea. HUGS, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I wonder if we can establish a " network " of " Bed and Breakfasts " so to speak for those individuals traveling a great distance to see a new Dr. I live in Fishers, a suburb of Indianapolis. I know many people come to visit Dr. Lehman and have the extra expense of hotels. I would be willing to share a room for individuals needing a place to stay during their visit. Hopefully they wouldn't mind my pets (2 cats and 2 dogs) who offer lots of love and companionship. I may not be able to be a great host due to the pain, but we'll make room if someone needs it and they can help themselves in the kitchen! Armantrout Indianapolis Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I wonder if we can establish a " network " of " Bed and Breakfasts " so to speak for those individuals traveling a great distance to see a new Dr. I live in Fishers, a suburb of Indianapolis. I know many people come to visit Dr. Lehman and have the extra expense of hotels. I would be willing to share a room for individuals needing a place to stay during their visit. Hopefully they wouldn't mind my pets (2 cats and 2 dogs) who offer lots of love and companionship. I may not be able to be a great host due to the pain, but we'll make room if someone needs it and they can help themselves in the kitchen! Armantrout Indianapolis Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I wonder if we can establish a " network " of " Bed and Breakfasts " so to speak for those individuals traveling a great distance to see a new Dr. I live in Fishers, a suburb of Indianapolis. I know many people come to visit Dr. Lehman and have the extra expense of hotels. I would be willing to share a room for individuals needing a place to stay during their visit. Hopefully they wouldn't mind my pets (2 cats and 2 dogs) who offer lots of love and companionship. I may not be able to be a great host due to the pain, but we'll make room if someone needs it and they can help themselves in the kitchen! Armantrout Indianapolis Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 , How did they find out for sure that you have CP and Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction (SOD)? I really think SOD may be my problem. I had an ultrasound done in March 2000 shortly after my first attack of acute panc. It showed that my bile duct was slightly dilated. However, I had another ultrasound done just a couple of weeks ago and the doctor said it was normal. I haven't seen the report but I am going to get a copy of it Monday. My amylase has only been elevated once out of the maybe 8-10 times it has been checked since Jan 2000. I have an appt with my GI doc on Monday, April 15th. He's 100 miles away. I haven't seen him since about Dec 2000. I had almost a year of virtually no problems until about Oct 2001. From out of nowhere I had that " pain from the sky " as someone in the group called it. For me the pain is under my right rib (where the gallbladder used to be) and straight through to the back. At this moment, it is probably about a 3-4. Basically, I consider that a nagging pain. It is definitely there but I can still function. Since October, I've had increasing episodes of the level 10 type pain. At first they only lasted 20 minutes, but now they are becoming more frequent and lasting longer. With some of the last ones, I've also had pain right in the middle of my gut - a few inches above my belly button. Sometimes I have nausea ranging from mild to God, please let me puke. Other times I really have no nausea with the episodes. I have not thrown up with any of the episodes thus far. I really do like my GI. He was recommended to me by someone in the group back in 2000. When I first saw him I had been treated by 2 other GIs previously. Each one did an ERCP and sphincterotomy. They said my bile duct had sludge and was not draining properly. After each ERCP, I was pronounced cured and my continuing pain was ignored. I must admit that I was much better after the 2 ERCPs but was nowhere near 100% better. When I saw Dr. Sigman in Nov 01 he suggested a 3rd ERCP but promised he would be very careful. I had no problems with the 3rd ERCP. He said that the bile duct was draining properly and that the pancreas looked fine. He said my entire stomach wall was inflamed from bile reflux gastritis (the bile was refluxing back into my stomach from my intestines and eating away the stomach wall lining). He said it was a side effect that sometimes occurs when your gallbladder is removed. He put me on carafate and reglan. Things got better and I quit having more than just a rare dull ache until October of 2001. I ignored the pain for quite some time and figured it couldn't be my pancreas since I wasn't puking. In December, 2001, I had a roux-en-y gastric bypass mostly for weight loss purposes but also because it is the same surgery that is supposed to correct the gastric bile relux problem. They close off the bottom portion of your stomach so the bile can't reflux back into the stomach any longer. Shortly after the surgery, I began having frequent episodes of the familiar pain. The surgeon thought I might have an ulcer so he put me on Nexium. Things got better for a few weeks and then the pain was back again with a vengence! The labs I had done a couple of weeks ago showed a normal amylase and lipase. The only things out of the norm were my ALT and LDH. I'm going to bring those results to Dr. Sigman as well as the ultrasound report. I'm just wondering is there anything anyone can suggest for me prior to my appt? Things like questions to ask, tests to suggest, etc. Because of having the gastric bypass, my surgeon says I can't have a regular ERCP where they go down your throat because he says they won't be able to get through my stomach to my pancreas. I actually read that an ERCP can be done following gastric bypass but it takes a VERY talented doctor to accomplish it. The surgeon said they would have to go in laparscopically with the ERCP camera. My surgeon said he would schedule me for an MRCP if I continued having problems, but I decided to just go ahead and see my GI and find out what he thinks about the situation. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 , How did they find out for sure that you have CP and Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction (SOD)? I really think SOD may be my problem. I had an ultrasound done in March 2000 shortly after my first attack of acute panc. It showed that my bile duct was slightly dilated. However, I had another ultrasound done just a couple of weeks ago and the doctor said it was normal. I haven't seen the report but I am going to get a copy of it Monday. My amylase has only been elevated once out of the maybe 8-10 times it has been checked since Jan 2000. I have an appt with my GI doc on Monday, April 15th. He's 100 miles away. I haven't seen him since about Dec 2000. I had almost a year of virtually no problems until about Oct 2001. From out of nowhere I had that " pain from the sky " as someone in the group called it. For me the pain is under my right rib (where the gallbladder used to be) and straight through to the back. At this moment, it is probably about a 3-4. Basically, I consider that a nagging pain. It is definitely there but I can still function. Since October, I've had increasing episodes of the level 10 type pain. At first they only lasted 20 minutes, but now they are becoming more frequent and lasting longer. With some of the last ones, I've also had pain right in the middle of my gut - a few inches above my belly button. Sometimes I have nausea ranging from mild to God, please let me puke. Other times I really have no nausea with the episodes. I have not thrown up with any of the episodes thus far. I really do like my GI. He was recommended to me by someone in the group back in 2000. When I first saw him I had been treated by 2 other GIs previously. Each one did an ERCP and sphincterotomy. They said my bile duct had sludge and was not draining properly. After each ERCP, I was pronounced cured and my continuing pain was ignored. I must admit that I was much better after the 2 ERCPs but was nowhere near 100% better. When I saw Dr. Sigman in Nov 01 he suggested a 3rd ERCP but promised he would be very careful. I had no problems with the 3rd ERCP. He said that the bile duct was draining properly and that the pancreas looked fine. He said my entire stomach wall was inflamed from bile reflux gastritis (the bile was refluxing back into my stomach from my intestines and eating away the stomach wall lining). He said it was a side effect that sometimes occurs when your gallbladder is removed. He put me on carafate and reglan. Things got better and I quit having more than just a rare dull ache until October of 2001. I ignored the pain for quite some time and figured it couldn't be my pancreas since I wasn't puking. In December, 2001, I had a roux-en-y gastric bypass mostly for weight loss purposes but also because it is the same surgery that is supposed to correct the gastric bile relux problem. They close off the bottom portion of your stomach so the bile can't reflux back into the stomach any longer. Shortly after the surgery, I began having frequent episodes of the familiar pain. The surgeon thought I might have an ulcer so he put me on Nexium. Things got better for a few weeks and then the pain was back again with a vengence! The labs I had done a couple of weeks ago showed a normal amylase and lipase. The only things out of the norm were my ALT and LDH. I'm going to bring those results to Dr. Sigman as well as the ultrasound report. I'm just wondering is there anything anyone can suggest for me prior to my appt? Things like questions to ask, tests to suggest, etc. Because of having the gastric bypass, my surgeon says I can't have a regular ERCP where they go down your throat because he says they won't be able to get through my stomach to my pancreas. I actually read that an ERCP can be done following gastric bypass but it takes a VERY talented doctor to accomplish it. The surgeon said they would have to go in laparscopically with the ERCP camera. My surgeon said he would schedule me for an MRCP if I continued having problems, but I decided to just go ahead and see my GI and find out what he thinks about the situation. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 , How did they find out for sure that you have CP and Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction (SOD)? I really think SOD may be my problem. I had an ultrasound done in March 2000 shortly after my first attack of acute panc. It showed that my bile duct was slightly dilated. However, I had another ultrasound done just a couple of weeks ago and the doctor said it was normal. I haven't seen the report but I am going to get a copy of it Monday. My amylase has only been elevated once out of the maybe 8-10 times it has been checked since Jan 2000. I have an appt with my GI doc on Monday, April 15th. He's 100 miles away. I haven't seen him since about Dec 2000. I had almost a year of virtually no problems until about Oct 2001. From out of nowhere I had that " pain from the sky " as someone in the group called it. For me the pain is under my right rib (where the gallbladder used to be) and straight through to the back. At this moment, it is probably about a 3-4. Basically, I consider that a nagging pain. It is definitely there but I can still function. Since October, I've had increasing episodes of the level 10 type pain. At first they only lasted 20 minutes, but now they are becoming more frequent and lasting longer. With some of the last ones, I've also had pain right in the middle of my gut - a few inches above my belly button. Sometimes I have nausea ranging from mild to God, please let me puke. Other times I really have no nausea with the episodes. I have not thrown up with any of the episodes thus far. I really do like my GI. He was recommended to me by someone in the group back in 2000. When I first saw him I had been treated by 2 other GIs previously. Each one did an ERCP and sphincterotomy. They said my bile duct had sludge and was not draining properly. After each ERCP, I was pronounced cured and my continuing pain was ignored. I must admit that I was much better after the 2 ERCPs but was nowhere near 100% better. When I saw Dr. Sigman in Nov 01 he suggested a 3rd ERCP but promised he would be very careful. I had no problems with the 3rd ERCP. He said that the bile duct was draining properly and that the pancreas looked fine. He said my entire stomach wall was inflamed from bile reflux gastritis (the bile was refluxing back into my stomach from my intestines and eating away the stomach wall lining). He said it was a side effect that sometimes occurs when your gallbladder is removed. He put me on carafate and reglan. Things got better and I quit having more than just a rare dull ache until October of 2001. I ignored the pain for quite some time and figured it couldn't be my pancreas since I wasn't puking. In December, 2001, I had a roux-en-y gastric bypass mostly for weight loss purposes but also because it is the same surgery that is supposed to correct the gastric bile relux problem. They close off the bottom portion of your stomach so the bile can't reflux back into the stomach any longer. Shortly after the surgery, I began having frequent episodes of the familiar pain. The surgeon thought I might have an ulcer so he put me on Nexium. Things got better for a few weeks and then the pain was back again with a vengence! The labs I had done a couple of weeks ago showed a normal amylase and lipase. The only things out of the norm were my ALT and LDH. I'm going to bring those results to Dr. Sigman as well as the ultrasound report. I'm just wondering is there anything anyone can suggest for me prior to my appt? Things like questions to ask, tests to suggest, etc. Because of having the gastric bypass, my surgeon says I can't have a regular ERCP where they go down your throat because he says they won't be able to get through my stomach to my pancreas. I actually read that an ERCP can be done following gastric bypass but it takes a VERY talented doctor to accomplish it. The surgeon said they would have to go in laparscopically with the ERCP camera. My surgeon said he would schedule me for an MRCP if I continued having problems, but I decided to just go ahead and see my GI and find out what he thinks about the situation. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dr. Lehman diagnosed me after an ERCP. He has special diagnostic tools to determine the constrictedness of the shpincto mucsle that leads t othe pancreas. Any way thats what my parents tell me as I was pretty out of it after the procedure. He did a shpinterotomy and put a stent in. I then on my way home from Indy, 5 and on half hours away began to bleed! I was hospitalized for 4 days here at our local hospital. i threw up my stent while vomiting blood. I then needed another ERCP to stop the bleeding and then a month later another one to put the stent back in and I am still not better! I am starting with pain mangement on May 14. I was supposed to go to a different guy but he did not par with my insurance. I found one that did so of course I will go to him! Well I hope this answers your question. Sorry for rambling on. Hope you find the answers you need.Keep in touch and let me know what happens. God Bless, ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dr. Lehman diagnosed me after an ERCP. He has special diagnostic tools to determine the constrictedness of the shpincto mucsle that leads t othe pancreas. Any way thats what my parents tell me as I was pretty out of it after the procedure. He did a shpinterotomy and put a stent in. I then on my way home from Indy, 5 and on half hours away began to bleed! I was hospitalized for 4 days here at our local hospital. i threw up my stent while vomiting blood. I then needed another ERCP to stop the bleeding and then a month later another one to put the stent back in and I am still not better! I am starting with pain mangement on May 14. I was supposed to go to a different guy but he did not par with my insurance. I found one that did so of course I will go to him! Well I hope this answers your question. Sorry for rambling on. Hope you find the answers you need.Keep in touch and let me know what happens. God Bless, ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dr. Lehman diagnosed me after an ERCP. He has special diagnostic tools to determine the constrictedness of the shpincto mucsle that leads t othe pancreas. Any way thats what my parents tell me as I was pretty out of it after the procedure. He did a shpinterotomy and put a stent in. I then on my way home from Indy, 5 and on half hours away began to bleed! I was hospitalized for 4 days here at our local hospital. i threw up my stent while vomiting blood. I then needed another ERCP to stop the bleeding and then a month later another one to put the stent back in and I am still not better! I am starting with pain mangement on May 14. I was supposed to go to a different guy but he did not par with my insurance. I found one that did so of course I will go to him! Well I hope this answers your question. Sorry for rambling on. Hope you find the answers you need.Keep in touch and let me know what happens. God Bless, ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I sure appreciate the offer. If I can ever convince myself to go back to Indy I will take you up on that offer! Right now I have such a 'bad taste' in my mouth because of all my complications my somache does 'back flips' anytime I hear of Indy! I appolojize to anyone whom this may offend. And of course I would not expect hosting just a place to sleep would do the trick! YOu are very kind. Thank-you! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I sure appreciate the offer. If I can ever convince myself to go back to Indy I will take you up on that offer! Right now I have such a 'bad taste' in my mouth because of all my complications my somache does 'back flips' anytime I hear of Indy! I appolojize to anyone whom this may offend. And of course I would not expect hosting just a place to sleep would do the trick! YOu are very kind. Thank-you! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 I sure appreciate the offer. If I can ever convince myself to go back to Indy I will take you up on that offer! Right now I have such a 'bad taste' in my mouth because of all my complications my somache does 'back flips' anytime I hear of Indy! I appolojize to anyone whom this may offend. And of course I would not expect hosting just a place to sleep would do the trick! YOu are very kind. Thank-you! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 , That is a wonderful idea! Thanks for being so considerate. Although I doubt I will ever get back to Indy, it is nice to know. Joy, El Paso,TX Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 , That is a wonderful idea! Thanks for being so considerate. Although I doubt I will ever get back to Indy, it is nice to know. Joy, El Paso,TX Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 , That is a wonderful idea! Thanks for being so considerate. Although I doubt I will ever get back to Indy, it is nice to know. Joy, El Paso,TX Re: Re: dr. fees/ > Hi Cecelia, it's me . Insurance sure is frustrating! The second > doctor I went to said that I did not have pancreatitis no way no how. ya > see my amalase and lipase were never elevated so I just couldn't have it. > Well I called my PCP and they sent me somewhere else. What do you think > he treated me for, Yep, chronic pancreatitis! Then I went to Dr. Lehman > and He first wanted my GB out just to make sure that wasn't my woos. It > wasn't so I went back for the dreaded ERCP and I have sphincter of oddi > disfunction and Chronic pancreatits. Well imagine that! I would love to > write the first jerk who wouldn't believe me. He thought perhaps I needed > stress management and prozac! It was all in my head! What a nice guy. He > knew enough about pancreatitis to be dangerous! My medical bills in the > last year and a half have been outrageous especially with Dr. Lehman. I > am fortunate that my parents have been willing to take me and pay for all > the hotel bills etc. I am going for pain management in May. I found one > that pars with my insurance. I understand that to be a miracle in and of > it self! well any way enough whinning for me. Hope all is well for you. > God Bless, > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 In a message dated 4/12/02 3:25:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jkilgore@... writes: > Hi , just to let you know I was at Conner Prairie last Tuesday, probably went past your house. Best Wishes, Poncho - GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 In a message dated 4/12/02 3:25:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jkilgore@... writes: > Hi , just to let you know I was at Conner Prairie last Tuesday, probably went past your house. Best Wishes, Poncho - GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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