Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hi Everyone, I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon are good to take for diabetes. Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by the body. What are your thoughts? Thanks! S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon > are good to take for diabetes. > > Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. > > It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough > as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by > the body. > Alpha lipoic acid has been well documented to lower insulin resistence, although the effect is probably fairly mild. There have been at least 2 people I know of who seem to have the opposite effect - a rise in blood sugar. It also can improve diabetic neuropathy. It has no toxicity in reasonable (100-600 mg./day)doses except occasional heartburn, easily controlled with antacids. Here's what I found on a quick search of coffee and diabetes. This is from Reader's Digest MD Net: " There's both good and bad news for java junkies. Recent research suggests that people who drink a lot of coffee seem to have a lower risk of developing diabetes. In fact, data on 42,000 men and 84,000 women showed that men who drank at least six cups of coffee daily had less than half the diabetes risk of men who drank none. But caffeine's not the " good guy " in this somewhat twisted plot. In fact, if you already have diabetes, you'd be smart to switch to decaf. That's because Canadian researchers just showed that caffeine actually reduced insulin sensitivity in a group of men by as much as 37 percent. So why would coffee protect against diabetes? It contains potassium, niacin, magnesium, and antioxidants that may improve glucose metabolism (the way the body uses blood sugar) and lower insulin resistance, the hallmark of type 2 diabetes. It also contains a chemical called chlorogenic acid, which may disrupt an enzyme that regulates the release of glucose from the liver. " Cinnamon is widely reputed to lower blood sugar. However, the only real documentation of that is a study from Pakistan several years ago in which 3 different doses of cinnamon were given to 10 diabetics each and 30 were were given placebo. The ones receiving cinnamon had lower blood sugars. It's a very, very small study and technically flawed, but hopefully will generate a larger and better designed study. However, if you like cinnamon.... BTW, " natural " products are not neccessarily better tolerated by the body. You wouldn't care for a nice plate of sauteed poison ivy, would you? Or perhaps mushroom randomly gathered in the woods? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon > are good to take for diabetes. > > Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. > > It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough > as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by > the body. > Alpha lipoic acid has been well documented to lower insulin resistence, although the effect is probably fairly mild. There have been at least 2 people I know of who seem to have the opposite effect - a rise in blood sugar. It also can improve diabetic neuropathy. It has no toxicity in reasonable (100-600 mg./day)doses except occasional heartburn, easily controlled with antacids. Here's what I found on a quick search of coffee and diabetes. This is from Reader's Digest MD Net: " There's both good and bad news for java junkies. Recent research suggests that people who drink a lot of coffee seem to have a lower risk of developing diabetes. In fact, data on 42,000 men and 84,000 women showed that men who drank at least six cups of coffee daily had less than half the diabetes risk of men who drank none. But caffeine's not the " good guy " in this somewhat twisted plot. In fact, if you already have diabetes, you'd be smart to switch to decaf. That's because Canadian researchers just showed that caffeine actually reduced insulin sensitivity in a group of men by as much as 37 percent. So why would coffee protect against diabetes? It contains potassium, niacin, magnesium, and antioxidants that may improve glucose metabolism (the way the body uses blood sugar) and lower insulin resistance, the hallmark of type 2 diabetes. It also contains a chemical called chlorogenic acid, which may disrupt an enzyme that regulates the release of glucose from the liver. " Cinnamon is widely reputed to lower blood sugar. However, the only real documentation of that is a study from Pakistan several years ago in which 3 different doses of cinnamon were given to 10 diabetics each and 30 were were given placebo. The ones receiving cinnamon had lower blood sugars. It's a very, very small study and technically flawed, but hopefully will generate a larger and better designed study. However, if you like cinnamon.... BTW, " natural " products are not neccessarily better tolerated by the body. You wouldn't care for a nice plate of sauteed poison ivy, would you? Or perhaps mushroom randomly gathered in the woods? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon > are good to take for diabetes. > > Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. > > It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough > as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by > the body. > Alpha lipoic acid has been well documented to lower insulin resistence, although the effect is probably fairly mild. There have been at least 2 people I know of who seem to have the opposite effect - a rise in blood sugar. It also can improve diabetic neuropathy. It has no toxicity in reasonable (100-600 mg./day)doses except occasional heartburn, easily controlled with antacids. Here's what I found on a quick search of coffee and diabetes. This is from Reader's Digest MD Net: " There's both good and bad news for java junkies. Recent research suggests that people who drink a lot of coffee seem to have a lower risk of developing diabetes. In fact, data on 42,000 men and 84,000 women showed that men who drank at least six cups of coffee daily had less than half the diabetes risk of men who drank none. But caffeine's not the " good guy " in this somewhat twisted plot. In fact, if you already have diabetes, you'd be smart to switch to decaf. That's because Canadian researchers just showed that caffeine actually reduced insulin sensitivity in a group of men by as much as 37 percent. So why would coffee protect against diabetes? It contains potassium, niacin, magnesium, and antioxidants that may improve glucose metabolism (the way the body uses blood sugar) and lower insulin resistance, the hallmark of type 2 diabetes. It also contains a chemical called chlorogenic acid, which may disrupt an enzyme that regulates the release of glucose from the liver. " Cinnamon is widely reputed to lower blood sugar. However, the only real documentation of that is a study from Pakistan several years ago in which 3 different doses of cinnamon were given to 10 diabetics each and 30 were were given placebo. The ones receiving cinnamon had lower blood sugars. It's a very, very small study and technically flawed, but hopefully will generate a larger and better designed study. However, if you like cinnamon.... BTW, " natural " products are not neccessarily better tolerated by the body. You wouldn't care for a nice plate of sauteed poison ivy, would you? Or perhaps mushroom randomly gathered in the woods? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon > are good to take for diabetes. > > Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. > > It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough > as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by > the body. > Alpha lipoic acid has been well documented to lower insulin resistence, although the effect is probably fairly mild. There have been at least 2 people I know of who seem to have the opposite effect - a rise in blood sugar. It also can improve diabetic neuropathy. It has no toxicity in reasonable (100-600 mg./day)doses except occasional heartburn, easily controlled with antacids. Here's what I found on a quick search of coffee and diabetes. This is from Reader's Digest MD Net: " There's both good and bad news for java junkies. Recent research suggests that people who drink a lot of coffee seem to have a lower risk of developing diabetes. In fact, data on 42,000 men and 84,000 women showed that men who drank at least six cups of coffee daily had less than half the diabetes risk of men who drank none. But caffeine's not the " good guy " in this somewhat twisted plot. In fact, if you already have diabetes, you'd be smart to switch to decaf. That's because Canadian researchers just showed that caffeine actually reduced insulin sensitivity in a group of men by as much as 37 percent. So why would coffee protect against diabetes? It contains potassium, niacin, magnesium, and antioxidants that may improve glucose metabolism (the way the body uses blood sugar) and lower insulin resistance, the hallmark of type 2 diabetes. It also contains a chemical called chlorogenic acid, which may disrupt an enzyme that regulates the release of glucose from the liver. " Cinnamon is widely reputed to lower blood sugar. However, the only real documentation of that is a study from Pakistan several years ago in which 3 different doses of cinnamon were given to 10 diabetics each and 30 were were given placebo. The ones receiving cinnamon had lower blood sugars. It's a very, very small study and technically flawed, but hopefully will generate a larger and better designed study. However, if you like cinnamon.... BTW, " natural " products are not neccessarily better tolerated by the body. You wouldn't care for a nice plate of sauteed poison ivy, would you? Or perhaps mushroom randomly gathered in the woods? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I read from LEF.org that Alpha Liopic Acid, Coffee Berries and Cinnamon > are good to take for diabetes. > > Has anyone here used this long term and seen benefits. > > It might be something worth trying once you get your bg down low enough > as many of the products are natural and probably better tolerated by > the body. > Alpha lipoic acid has been well documented to lower insulin resistence, although the effect is probably fairly mild. There have been at least 2 people I know of who seem to have the opposite effect - a rise in blood sugar. It also can improve diabetic neuropathy. It has no toxicity in reasonable (100-600 mg./day)doses except occasional heartburn, easily controlled with antacids. Here's what I found on a quick search of coffee and diabetes. This is from Reader's Digest MD Net: " There's both good and bad news for java junkies. Recent research suggests that people who drink a lot of coffee seem to have a lower risk of developing diabetes. In fact, data on 42,000 men and 84,000 women showed that men who drank at least six cups of coffee daily had less than half the diabetes risk of men who drank none. But caffeine's not the " good guy " in this somewhat twisted plot. In fact, if you already have diabetes, you'd be smart to switch to decaf. That's because Canadian researchers just showed that caffeine actually reduced insulin sensitivity in a group of men by as much as 37 percent. So why would coffee protect against diabetes? It contains potassium, niacin, magnesium, and antioxidants that may improve glucose metabolism (the way the body uses blood sugar) and lower insulin resistance, the hallmark of type 2 diabetes. It also contains a chemical called chlorogenic acid, which may disrupt an enzyme that regulates the release of glucose from the liver. " Cinnamon is widely reputed to lower blood sugar. However, the only real documentation of that is a study from Pakistan several years ago in which 3 different doses of cinnamon were given to 10 diabetics each and 30 were were given placebo. The ones receiving cinnamon had lower blood sugars. It's a very, very small study and technically flawed, but hopefully will generate a larger and better designed study. However, if you like cinnamon.... BTW, " natural " products are not neccessarily better tolerated by the body. You wouldn't care for a nice plate of sauteed poison ivy, would you? Or perhaps mushroom randomly gathered in the woods? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Thanks Ron, for the information, I never knew that abt Coffee I guess LEF.org may of just been trying to sell their product. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Thanks Ron, for the information, I never knew that abt Coffee I guess > LEF.org may of just been trying to sell their product. > > Thanks! > I didn't know that either. I'll check it out further but I may just switch to decaf. It's really my wife who needs the caffeine. Any time a web site is selling a product, I have to view what they say with a very skeptical eye. It's worth your time trying to find unbiased information. With Google, WebMD, and PubMed it's not that difficult. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 > > Thanks Ron, for the information, I never knew that abt Coffee I guess > LEF.org may of just been trying to sell their product. > > Thanks! > I didn't know that either. I'll check it out further but I may just switch to decaf. It's really my wife who needs the caffeine. Any time a web site is selling a product, I have to view what they say with a very skeptical eye. It's worth your time trying to find unbiased information. With Google, WebMD, and PubMed it's not that difficult. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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