COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

[Guest guest]

HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

good. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

You need to take an aweful lot to have any positive effects, and if you take

too much your skin will turn blue.

-- COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

good. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

You need to take an aweful lot to have any positive effects, and if you take

too much your skin will turn blue.

-- COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

good. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

You need to take an aweful lot to have any positive effects, and if you take

too much your skin will turn blue.

-- COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

good. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

>

> HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

> type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

> can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

> diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

> share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

> good. Thank you.

>

What are your specifics on your statement, " I am finding silver can

heal many health problems? " What's your evidence to support that

statement? We'd all be interested in reading any real scientific

clinical studies in humans you have. Do you have any financial

interest in colloidal silver.

I researched colloidal silver on PubMed. I found not a single article

claiming any health benefit for it. I found the following articles

about its dangers. Based on that I would very strongly recommend

against anyone using it.

Toxicity of colloidal silver:

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=11107524 & query_hl=1

Silver has no antibacterial activity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15114827 & query_hl=1

Colloidal silver neither safe not effective:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10558603 & query_hl=1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=8632503 & query_hl=1

Ron

[Guest guest]

>

> HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health problems. I'm also a

> type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and I hope somone here

> can advise if you have any experience with Colloidal Silver as a

> diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with non-diabetics. Please

> share any problems experiences with it or experiences. It looks so

> good. Thank you.

>

What are your specifics on your statement, " I am finding silver can

heal many health problems? " What's your evidence to support that

statement? We'd all be interested in reading any real scientific

clinical studies in humans you have. Do you have any financial

interest in colloidal silver.

I researched colloidal silver on PubMed. I found not a single article

claiming any health benefit for it. I found the following articles

about its dangers. Based on that I would very strongly recommend

against anyone using it.

Toxicity of colloidal silver:

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=11107524 & query_hl=1

Silver has no antibacterial activity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15114827 & query_hl=1

Colloidal silver neither safe not effective:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10558603 & query_hl=1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=8632503 & query_hl=1

Ron

[Guest guest]

HI Ron, I appreciate the " critique "

WOW!, I guess I stepped into a hornets nest. But I

have to share knowledge and experience that I know has

helped me. First, I have no financial interest in

silver of any kind. I have made my own colodial silver

for about nine years. If I knew it would hurt anyone,I

sure would NOT post it here or anywhere else.

It is claimed to kill harmful virus in the body. It

sure works for me. I know one friend who was horribly

burned over a major part of his body and the burn

institute kept burned areas damp with CS to minimize

infections that otherwise would have survival

unlikely.

I am told that NASA uses it on their space flights to

minimize the growth of harmful bacteria.

I do know that the medical profession and the AMA is

very much against it's use for anything. There is no

profit to the medical professionals when colloidal

silver is used. It has been used for over a hundred

years before we had penicillin or other antibiotics.

It worked.

I'm seventy-five years old and used to catch any " Bug "

that came around. Been diabetic for 25 yrs, and

since using CS, I have NOT had the flu, (I don't take

flu shots anymore), I just don't catch colds and my

wounds heal without complications.

I don't sell CS, but I do share batches that I make

with family and friends. (FREE-no charges) I do not

profit from CS in any way, except I get a great charge

out of helping others who have really benefitted from

it's use. I've seen it work many times.

The medical profession cannot profit much from healing

people but sure profit when you remain sick, the big

drug companies sure don't want to lose sales of their

products. I know from personal experience that it has

helped to prolong my very life and it has NOT hurt me.

It's very cheap if you make it yourself and it works

a lot better than a lot of prescriptions medications.

I think most doctors sincerely want to heal their

patients but they are mislead by a lot of negative

info about outside treatments. What can it hurt to try

it. If it works you are that much ahead with a new way

to beat the bug. It it does not work then go back to

the orthodox medicals. I don't think you will go

back.

Anyone really interested should start reading whats on

the internet WITH AN OPEN MIND. Just look under

" Colloidal Silver " .

I wish you all well. dp

--- ron42nm wrote:

>

> >

> > HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health

> problems. I'm also a

> > type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and

> I hope somone here

> > can advise if you have any experience with

> Colloidal Silver as a

> > diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with

> non-diabetics. Please

> > share any problems experiences with it or

> experiences. It looks so

> > good. Thank you.

> >

>

> What are your specifics on your statement, " I am

> finding silver can

> heal many health problems? " What's your evidence to

> support that

> statement? We'd all be interested in reading any

> real scientific

> clinical studies in humans you have. Do you have

> any financial

> interest in colloidal silver.

>

> I researched colloidal silver on PubMed. I found

> not a single article

> claiming any health benefit for it. I found the

> following articles

> about its dangers. Based on that I would very

> strongly recommend

> against anyone using it.

>

> Toxicity of colloidal silver:

>

>

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=11107524 & query_hl=1

>

> Silver has no antibacterial activity:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15114827 & query_hl=1

>

> Colloidal silver neither safe not effective:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10558603 & query_hl=1

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=8632503 & query_hl=1

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI Ron, I appreciate the " critique "

WOW!, I guess I stepped into a hornets nest. But I

have to share knowledge and experience that I know has

helped me. First, I have no financial interest in

silver of any kind. I have made my own colodial silver

for about nine years. If I knew it would hurt anyone,I

sure would NOT post it here or anywhere else.

It is claimed to kill harmful virus in the body. It

sure works for me. I know one friend who was horribly

burned over a major part of his body and the burn

institute kept burned areas damp with CS to minimize

infections that otherwise would have survival

unlikely.

I am told that NASA uses it on their space flights to

minimize the growth of harmful bacteria.

I do know that the medical profession and the AMA is

very much against it's use for anything. There is no

profit to the medical professionals when colloidal

silver is used. It has been used for over a hundred

years before we had penicillin or other antibiotics.

It worked.

I'm seventy-five years old and used to catch any " Bug "

that came around. Been diabetic for 25 yrs, and

since using CS, I have NOT had the flu, (I don't take

flu shots anymore), I just don't catch colds and my

wounds heal without complications.

I don't sell CS, but I do share batches that I make

with family and friends. (FREE-no charges) I do not

profit from CS in any way, except I get a great charge

out of helping others who have really benefitted from

it's use. I've seen it work many times.

The medical profession cannot profit much from healing

people but sure profit when you remain sick, the big

drug companies sure don't want to lose sales of their

products. I know from personal experience that it has

helped to prolong my very life and it has NOT hurt me.

It's very cheap if you make it yourself and it works

a lot better than a lot of prescriptions medications.

I think most doctors sincerely want to heal their

patients but they are mislead by a lot of negative

info about outside treatments. What can it hurt to try

it. If it works you are that much ahead with a new way

to beat the bug. It it does not work then go back to

the orthodox medicals. I don't think you will go

back.

Anyone really interested should start reading whats on

the internet WITH AN OPEN MIND. Just look under

" Colloidal Silver " .

I wish you all well. dp

--- ron42nm wrote:

>

> >

> > HI all, I am finding silver can heal many health

> problems. I'm also a

> > type II diabetic. It keeps me from infections and

> I hope somone here

> > can advise if you have any experience with

> Colloidal Silver as a

> > diabebic. Is it OK to use it freely as with

> non-diabetics. Please

> > share any problems experiences with it or

> experiences. It looks so

> > good. Thank you.

> >

>

> What are your specifics on your statement, " I am

> finding silver can

> heal many health problems? " What's your evidence to

> support that

> statement? We'd all be interested in reading any

> real scientific

> clinical studies in humans you have. Do you have

> any financial

> interest in colloidal silver.

>

> I researched colloidal silver on PubMed. I found

> not a single article

> claiming any health benefit for it. I found the

> following articles

> about its dangers. Based on that I would very

> strongly recommend

> against anyone using it.

>

> Toxicity of colloidal silver:

>

>

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=11107524 & query_hl=1

>

> Silver has no antibacterial activity:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15114827 & query_hl=1

>

> Colloidal silver neither safe not effective:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10558603 & query_hl=1

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=8632503 & query_hl=1

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

All I can say on this subject is I doubt the original poster DP is even here

anymore. The poor guy just came on and said he had good luck with using this -

and he wondered if diabetics could use it. He got royally jumped on for asking

a question. There are tactful ways of 'helping' someone instead of attacking

him and asking for proof that this remedy worked for him. Good grief, he didn't

say anyone else should use it - that wasn't even the original question. IF

someone had information on this product, a more tactful and less hurtful way to

say things is " you might want to look at these links before continuting to use

this product as they shed some light about it you might not know about " (of

course I tried this approach a while back and still got attacked so who knows).

At any rate, people should think before they post. While this information is

good and informative, it was the way it was doled out that was really

inappropriate for someone looking for help. He did not in any way suggest that

anyone else use it - that was not the question.

Sandy

Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

We should never be quick to discount anything, IMHO.

Debi

[Guest guest]

All I can say on this subject is I doubt the original poster DP is even here

anymore. The poor guy just came on and said he had good luck with using this -

and he wondered if diabetics could use it. He got royally jumped on for asking

a question. There are tactful ways of 'helping' someone instead of attacking

him and asking for proof that this remedy worked for him. Good grief, he didn't

say anyone else should use it - that wasn't even the original question. IF

someone had information on this product, a more tactful and less hurtful way to

say things is " you might want to look at these links before continuting to use

this product as they shed some light about it you might not know about " (of

course I tried this approach a while back and still got attacked so who knows).

At any rate, people should think before they post. While this information is

good and informative, it was the way it was doled out that was really

inappropriate for someone looking for help. He did not in any way suggest that

anyone else use it - that was not the question.

Sandy

Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

We should never be quick to discount anything, IMHO.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I would have to agree with Sandy on this. You don't have to be rude to people

just because you don't believe in the same things they do. I have read quite

often about people using colloidal silver and having great results. I have also

heard it is toxic. I have used it at one time and not had much in the way of

results. Everyone reacts differently to different things. Colloidal silver is

considered a homeopathic and from what I've read, most homeopathics are toxic if

they aren't used properly. But they must work for quite a few people or they

wouldn't sell so many.

Many in the medical profession won't use any kind of homeopathic or natural

treatment because they say no one has proved them safe. But how many of your

drugs you take are absolutely safe. I know that both of the ones I was put on

have bad side effects for some people. One can cause severe liver damage. The

other, as has been said before, causes a rise in cholesterol. So the drugs

aren't any safer than the natural treatments.

Darlene

Re: Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

All I can say on this subject is I doubt the original poster DP is even here

anymore. The poor guy just came on and said he had good luck with using this -

and he wondered if diabetics could use it. He got royally jumped on for asking

a question. There are tactful ways of 'helping' someone instead of attacking

him and asking for proof that this remedy worked for him.

[Guest guest]

>

> I would have to agree with Sandy on this. You don't have to be

rude to people just because you don't believe in the same things

they do.

I agree. I've apologized for my rudeness.

>I have read quite often about people using colloidal silver and

having great results. I have also heard it is toxic. I have used

it at one time and not had much in the way of results.<

What kind of results were you looking for?

>Everyone reacts differently to different things. Colloidal silver

is considered a homeopathic and from what I've read, most

homeopathics are toxic if they aren't used properly. <

Homeopathy is a fully discredited medical philosophy. The idea that

using less and less of something to the vanishing point is more

effective has long ago been disproven. Please show me any medical

evidence that homeopathy has any validity.

>But they must work for quite a few people or they wouldn't sell so

many.<

My contention is that they sell so much because they are slick

marketers and some people get a placebo effect - in other words, if

you believe you'll feel better, there's a chance you will, whether

the medicine has anything to do with it or not. The placebo effect

is very well documented and accepted.

>

> Many in the medical profession won't use any kind of homeopathic

or natural treatment because they say no one has proved them safe.<

No, homeopathic drugs are generally safe. They just don't work and

are a waste of money, and delay effective treatment.

>But how many of your drugs you take are absolutely safe. I know

that both of the ones I was put on have bad side effects for some

people. One can cause severe liver damage. The other, as has been

said before, causes a rise in cholesterol. So the drugs aren't any

safer than the natural treatments.<

Very, very few medications are absolutely safe. However, the

important thing that does make them safer is that side effects and

toxicities are known, and you and your physician can look out for

them. With rare exceptions, toxicities will reverse when caught

early. With many of the alternative medicine products, side effects

and toxicites have never been studied, and hence you and your

physician don't know what to look out for. This much increases the

risk that toxicities will get out of hand before being discovered.

For example, if a medication is known to sometimes cause liver

toxicity, your physician can do liver function blood tests every 3-6

months and detect minimal toxicity long before you develop any

symptoms. Liver disease has to be very far advanced before you would

notice anything. However, if you are on something with unknown

toxicites, your physician can not do every test imaginable every 3-6

months, so if it does damage your liver, the damage will be much

more advanced when it is discovered.

Ron

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce,

It may well be your opinion, but it is only that - could you not be a little

more polite about your objections, I found your post to be really offensive.

Re: Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

Anyone really interested should start reading whats on

the internet WITH AN OPEN MIND. Just look under

" Colloidal Silver " .

I wish you all well. dp

[Guest guest]

He was most likely a spammer trying his best to get around the

spamming rules of this group to make money. As a veteran of 10 years

of these diabetic groups on YAHOO ! , I find these guys are very

inventive about using ploys to get group members to listen to their

spiel. Anytime they say... " I don't want to make any money off my

discovery, treatments, new medical devices, etc. " that is the clue

to close up your wallets and RUN!!!....

>

> All I can say on this subject is I doubt the original poster DP is

even here anymore. The poor guy just came on and said he had good

luck with using this - and he wondered if diabetics could use it. He

got royally jumped on for asking a question. There are tactful ways

of 'helping' someone instead of attacking him and asking for proof

that this remedy worked for him. Good grief, he didn't say anyone

else should use it - that wasn't even the original question. IF

someone had information on this product, a more tactful and less

hurtful way to say things is " you might want to look at these links

before continuting to use this product as they shed some light about

it you might not know about " (of course I tried this approach a while

back and still got attacked so who knows).

>

> At any rate, people should think before they post. While this

information is good and informative, it was the way it was doled out

that was really inappropriate for someone looking for help. He did

not in any way suggest that anyone else use it - that was not the

question.

>

> Sandy

> Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

> We should never be quick to discount anything, IMHO.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He was most likely a spammer trying his best to get around the

spamming rules of this group to make money. As a veteran of 10 years

of these diabetic groups on YAHOO ! , I find these guys are very

inventive about using ploys to get group members to listen to their

spiel. Anytime they say... " I don't want to make any money off my

discovery, treatments, new medical devices, etc. " that is the clue

to close up your wallets and RUN!!!....

>

> All I can say on this subject is I doubt the original poster DP is

even here anymore. The poor guy just came on and said he had good

luck with using this - and he wondered if diabetics could use it. He

got royally jumped on for asking a question. There are tactful ways

of 'helping' someone instead of attacking him and asking for proof

that this remedy worked for him. Good grief, he didn't say anyone

else should use it - that wasn't even the original question. IF

someone had information on this product, a more tactful and less

hurtful way to say things is " you might want to look at these links

before continuting to use this product as they shed some light about

it you might not know about " (of course I tried this approach a while

back and still got attacked so who knows).

>

> At any rate, people should think before they post. While this

information is good and informative, it was the way it was doled out

that was really inappropriate for someone looking for help. He did

not in any way suggest that anyone else use it - that was not the

question.

>

> Sandy

> Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

> We should never be quick to discount anything, IMHO.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My two cents:

The original poster was trying to do good, but could have done harm

by leading folks to take this home remedy wrong. So the responses

helped by alerting everyone to the poisonous aspect of colloidial

silver, when taken internally.

Having said that, everyone could use a nicer tone on this, including

those asking for medical proof. Hopefully other folks who post home

remedies will be more thorough and clearer in how they expect it to

be used, and in what their exact experiences with it are.

Bill

>

> You won't find any medical evidence of something working if they

don't want you to find something working. There are plenty of

people and animals that have had much improvement to arthritis and

joint pains using glucosamine or condroitin Sulfate, but last year

the pharmaceutical companies came out with that they had conducted

research and none of it does any good. Maybe people can think that

something that doesn't work does, but the animals can't. They don't

know if something is real or a placebo. That is no different than

your saying that it is proved that none of the homeopathics work.

What the pharmaceutical industry wants to be said about it is what

is said about it.

>

> The people who I have read statements from that have had

homeopathics work are not those who are selling them and trying to

make money. They are NOT slick sales people. They are people who

use them for either themselves or their animals.

[Guest guest]

My two cents:

The original poster was trying to do good, but could have done harm

by leading folks to take this home remedy wrong. So the responses

helped by alerting everyone to the poisonous aspect of colloidial

silver, when taken internally.

Having said that, everyone could use a nicer tone on this, including

those asking for medical proof. Hopefully other folks who post home

remedies will be more thorough and clearer in how they expect it to

be used, and in what their exact experiences with it are.

Bill

>

> You won't find any medical evidence of something working if they

don't want you to find something working. There are plenty of

people and animals that have had much improvement to arthritis and

joint pains using glucosamine or condroitin Sulfate, but last year

the pharmaceutical companies came out with that they had conducted

research and none of it does any good. Maybe people can think that

something that doesn't work does, but the animals can't. They don't

know if something is real or a placebo. That is no different than

your saying that it is proved that none of the homeopathics work.

What the pharmaceutical industry wants to be said about it is what

is said about it.

>

> The people who I have read statements from that have had

homeopathics work are not those who are selling them and trying to

make money. They are NOT slick sales people. They are people who

use them for either themselves or their animals.

[Guest guest]

My two cents:

The original poster was trying to do good, but could have done harm

by leading folks to take this home remedy wrong. So the responses

helped by alerting everyone to the poisonous aspect of colloidial

silver, when taken internally.

Having said that, everyone could use a nicer tone on this, including

those asking for medical proof. Hopefully other folks who post home

remedies will be more thorough and clearer in how they expect it to

be used, and in what their exact experiences with it are.

Bill

>

> You won't find any medical evidence of something working if they

don't want you to find something working. There are plenty of

people and animals that have had much improvement to arthritis and

joint pains using glucosamine or condroitin Sulfate, but last year

the pharmaceutical companies came out with that they had conducted

research and none of it does any good. Maybe people can think that

something that doesn't work does, but the animals can't. They don't

know if something is real or a placebo. That is no different than

your saying that it is proved that none of the homeopathics work.

What the pharmaceutical industry wants to be said about it is what

is said about it.

>

> The people who I have read statements from that have had

homeopathics work are not those who are selling them and trying to

make money. They are NOT slick sales people. They are people who

use them for either themselves or their animals.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan,

Glad you are still here. I met with similar demise when I posted a while back

that some people didn't agree with. You will get this with all groups

unfortunately. Seems you have to watch every word you post and some people want

proof of things you say. Generally, though the group is helpful. I will say

that I don't post as often and will keep most things to myself now as well.

Merry Christmas back at ya!

Sandy

Re: COLLIODAL SILVER & DIABETES

OHHHH, I'm here alright. Don't worry, I will NEVER try to suggest

anything that might " help " anyone here again. (snip) Again Merry

Christmas. dp