Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 well guess that nutritionist thought the boys were far more healed that they actually were - theyd just done so well. weve had galloping d for 3 days from both - undigested food - terrible gas the lot - ive fed them on chicken and carrot soup for 2 days now ive just introduced soup with blended veg that they are tolerant too today, and they are eating the nut butter muffins again bms are still very loose but not as bad - i had stopped their meds a week or 3 ago but ive begun them again today amidst fears that their candida has over run them taking full advantage of the situation im going to leave it as this and i would appreciate any feedback - i spoke to the nutritionist and she said to leave the raw food just to give them plenty of soups and cooked veg in all fairness they have recently begun to put soya in the eye q i didnt realise this and fian is allergic to soya and this has clearly caused his difficulties as he has no raw food at all kai loves tomatoes and i was giving him a cpl with every meal all thats come thru kai is the toms - everything else does appear to have been digested of a sort - at least in the sense that it is not clearly visible so to start again intro diet for last 2 days on both with just carrots and chicken now having 2 boiled egss for meals with some soup soup consists of meat celery white cabbage green cabbage carrots butternut squash courgettes - zucchini finely blended nut butter cakes with coconut butter, butternut squash avocado eggs carrots ginger cinnamon (not all at same time) am quite honestly gutted - i hope i havent caused untold damaged because they were both doing so well no juice at all only water - will definately withold all fruit until this candida is finally gotten rid of ive also stopped their probiotics or sud i continue with this or wait until they form normal bms until i re-introduce it no cod liver oil either there really needs to be some consistency here any help much much appreciated feel a real fool they are just so sensitive to any change no matter how small on the plus side they have been for t cell blood tests so itll take 6 weeks to get results but at least ill know all of their intolerences etc for sure ty all for ur support emma kai and fian scd 8 weeks but guess were starting over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Definitely could be all changes, BUT keep in mind that natural regressions occur in this diet and the first one occurs between two and three months. This is according to Judy Gorman, mom who spoke at DAN conference in Boston this past spring. I talk to her personally. She printed her story and her observations in the new Biomedical intervention book by Pangborn and Baker. When I talked to her last week she explained to me that she's kept in contact with about 30 families and took notes on everyone's reactions and that there are expected regressions for the first year and they seem to occur on a similar time line for most people. The great news is after each regression most families saw a big improvement in skills and behavior and typically didn't see this improvement without the regression. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Definitely could be all changes, BUT keep in mind that natural regressions occur in this diet and the first one occurs between two and three months. This is according to Judy Gorman, mom who spoke at DAN conference in Boston this past spring. I talk to her personally. She printed her story and her observations in the new Biomedical intervention book by Pangborn and Baker. When I talked to her last week she explained to me that she's kept in contact with about 30 families and took notes on everyone's reactions and that there are expected regressions for the first year and they seem to occur on a similar time line for most people. The great news is after each regression most families saw a big improvement in skills and behavior and typically didn't see this improvement without the regression. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Emma, Hang in there, you are doing so well... I hope Fian's skin gets better, get him some 1% hydrocortisone if he itches too badly. Wet pajamas might help too. Best Tammy Peyton asd 2.2 scd 8wks eczema 2yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Emma, Hang in there, you are doing so well... I hope Fian's skin gets better, get him some 1% hydrocortisone if he itches too badly. Wet pajamas might help too. Best Tammy Peyton asd 2.2 scd 8wks eczema 2yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 thx for that i just needed the reassurance because they were just doing so well and suddenly it all went pear shaped - die off is definately playing a part - i no that for sure now, fian has developed dreadful thrush, his eczema wen he woke up this morning was all over his legs and he has screamed all day kai has gone back looking pale and pasty - and complaining of feeling exhausted and has been really regressive all day their stools have improved slightly and have gone bright orange - i can only assume from all the squash and carrots they are eating its good to know that this happens to other ppl at the same time thk u so much emm kai asd dspx 7 fian 2 scd 8 weeks borno35@... wrote: Definitely could be all changes, BUT keep in mind that natural regressions occur in this diet and the first one occurs between two and three months. This is according to Judy Gorman, mom who spoke at DAN conference in Boston this past spring. I talk to her personally. She printed her story and her observations in the new Biomedical intervention book by Pangborn and Baker. When I talked to her last week she explained to me that she's kept in contact with about 30 families and took notes on everyone's reactions and that there are expected regressions for the first year and they seem to occur on a similar time line for most people. The great news is after each regression most families saw a big improvement in skills and behavior and typically didn't see this improvement without the regression. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 thx for that i just needed the reassurance because they were just doing so well and suddenly it all went pear shaped - die off is definately playing a part - i no that for sure now, fian has developed dreadful thrush, his eczema wen he woke up this morning was all over his legs and he has screamed all day kai has gone back looking pale and pasty - and complaining of feeling exhausted and has been really regressive all day their stools have improved slightly and have gone bright orange - i can only assume from all the squash and carrots they are eating its good to know that this happens to other ppl at the same time thk u so much emm kai asd dspx 7 fian 2 scd 8 weeks borno35@... wrote: Definitely could be all changes, BUT keep in mind that natural regressions occur in this diet and the first one occurs between two and three months. This is according to Judy Gorman, mom who spoke at DAN conference in Boston this past spring. I talk to her personally. She printed her story and her observations in the new Biomedical intervention book by Pangborn and Baker. When I talked to her last week she explained to me that she's kept in contact with about 30 families and took notes on everyone's reactions and that there are expected regressions for the first year and they seem to occur on a similar time line for most people. The great news is after each regression most families saw a big improvement in skills and behavior and typically didn't see this improvement without the regression. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 thx for that i just needed the reassurance because they were just doing so well and suddenly it all went pear shaped - die off is definately playing a part - i no that for sure now, fian has developed dreadful thrush, his eczema wen he woke up this morning was all over his legs and he has screamed all day kai has gone back looking pale and pasty - and complaining of feeling exhausted and has been really regressive all day their stools have improved slightly and have gone bright orange - i can only assume from all the squash and carrots they are eating its good to know that this happens to other ppl at the same time thk u so much emm kai asd dspx 7 fian 2 scd 8 weeks borno35@... wrote: Definitely could be all changes, BUT keep in mind that natural regressions occur in this diet and the first one occurs between two and three months. This is according to Judy Gorman, mom who spoke at DAN conference in Boston this past spring. I talk to her personally. She printed her story and her observations in the new Biomedical intervention book by Pangborn and Baker. When I talked to her last week she explained to me that she's kept in contact with about 30 families and took notes on everyone's reactions and that there are expected regressions for the first year and they seem to occur on a similar time line for most people. The great news is after each regression most families saw a big improvement in skills and behavior and typically didn't see this improvement without the regression. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi Emma, > > weve had galloping d for 3 days from both - undigested food - > terrible gas the lot - ive fed them on chicken and carrot soup for 2 > days now > > ive just introduced soup with blended veg that they are tolerant too > today, and they are eating the nut butter muffins again If they are having " galloping d " they may not be ready for some of those vegtables in the soup, even if blended. > > bms are still very loose but not as bad - i had stopped their meds a > week or 3 ago but ive begun them again today amidst fears that their > candida has over run them taking full advantage of the situation Which meds? > kai loves tomatoes and i was giving him a cpl with every meal all > thats come thru kai is the toms - everything else does appear to > have been digested of a sort - at least in the sense that it is not > clearly visible Try skinning and deseeding the tomatoes to see if this helps. > soup consists of meat celery white cabbage green cabbage carrots > butternut squash courgettes - zucchini finely blended -The strings on celery are pretty fibrous - you could eliminate the celery for now and when you introduce into the soup remove the " strings on the outer side of the celery stalk - make sure they are cooked until tender. - if stilll having diarrhea you should take out all cabbage family veggies - white and green cabbage (also cauli., brocc, kale etc.) -You could try peeling the zucchini before finely blending. > nut butter cakes with coconut butter - Which kind of nut butter? , butternut squash avocado eggs > carrots ginger cinnamon (not all at same time) > > am quite honestly gutted - i hope i havent caused untold damaged > because they were both doing so well > > no juice at all only water - will definately withold all fruit until > this candida is finally gotten rid of > > ive also stopped their probiotics or sud i continue with this or > wait until they form normal bms until i re-introduce it Which probiotic? Sheila, SCD 53 mos, 21 yrs UC mom of , SCD 38 mos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi Emma, > the probiotic i am using is the biokult fian has 1/8th a cap and kai > 1/4 this is to incr this week to fian 1/4 and kai 1/2 The biokult is not SCD legal. Elaine recc. only L. acidophilus in a probiotic powder/capsule. You can get other helpful strains in yogurt and fermented food. Does the biokult contain bifidum? - a particularly troublesome bacteria. > ive tried skinning and deseeding toms to no avail - so im now > rotating them and see if this helps toms 1 day, then cucumber, then > peppers then back to toms How about cooking the skinned deseeded tomatoes - that may help. > nut butter cakes are made with pecan butter and skinned hazlenut > butter > > i am also making shortbread with almond flour and macaroons the same > again with reduced levels of honey Some find shredded coconut difficult to digest while still ahving trouble (d or C). Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi Emma, > the probiotic i am using is the biokult fian has 1/8th a cap and kai > 1/4 this is to incr this week to fian 1/4 and kai 1/2 The biokult is not SCD legal. Elaine recc. only L. acidophilus in a probiotic powder/capsule. You can get other helpful strains in yogurt and fermented food. Does the biokult contain bifidum? - a particularly troublesome bacteria. > ive tried skinning and deseeding toms to no avail - so im now > rotating them and see if this helps toms 1 day, then cucumber, then > peppers then back to toms How about cooking the skinned deseeded tomatoes - that may help. > nut butter cakes are made with pecan butter and skinned hazlenut > butter > > i am also making shortbread with almond flour and macaroons the same > again with reduced levels of honey Some find shredded coconut difficult to digest while still ahving trouble (d or C). Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Thank u sheila i have to say i agree with u on this both boys - yes we had prior problems with fermenting fruit etc - but both boys were having great bms proper colour, shape and really grainy, behaviour was great this was rec to me by the scd counsellor, its a make of probiotic that she had a personal hand in making, i have contacted her and she has said its nothing for me to worry about as its just die off - but i am concerned as things were perfect before - and i have to say fian has never ever passed undigested food before the formula is as follows: bacillus subtilis bifido bif bifido breve bifido infantis bifido longum lacto acido lacto bulgaricus lacto casei lactp lactis lacto plantarum lacto rhamnosus lacto helevticus lacto salivarius streptococus thermophilus maltodextrin base minimum 10 billion per gram there do seem to be some useful stuff there and i know of some who have had great results, and of course some who clearly didnt thx emma > Hi Emma, > > > the probiotic i am using is the biokult fian has 1/8th a cap and > kai > > 1/4 this is to incr this week to fian 1/4 and kai 1/2 > > The biokult is not SCD legal. Elaine recc. only L. acidophilus in a > probiotic powder/capsule. You can get other helpful strains in > yogurt and fermented food. Does the biokult contain bifidum? - a > particularly troublesome bacteria. > > > ive tried skinning and deseeding toms to no avail - so im now > > rotating them and see if this helps toms 1 day, then cucumber, > then > > peppers then back to toms > > How about cooking the skinned deseeded tomatoes - that may help. > > > > nut butter cakes are made with pecan butter and skinned hazlenut > > butter > > > > i am also making shortbread with almond flour and macaroons the > same > > again with reduced levels of honey > > > Some find shredded coconut difficult to digest while still ahving > trouble (d or C). > > Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi similar question My DAN wants to put my daughter on flagyl and nystatin. Can she be cured off yeast just by SCD Lalitha --- borno35@... wrote: > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > did seem to clear his head and improve his > expressive language, but we ended > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > pain. We were up every > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > gas and colitis. As soon > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > talking. We've tried other > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > saying you should change at > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > reactions. We stayed on it > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > just not getting enough sleep > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > off would end and so > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > months > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi similar question My DAN wants to put my daughter on flagyl and nystatin. Can she be cured off yeast just by SCD Lalitha --- borno35@... wrote: > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > did seem to clear his head and improve his > expressive language, but we ended > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > pain. We were up every > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > gas and colitis. As soon > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > talking. We've tried other > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > saying you should change at > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > reactions. We stayed on it > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > just not getting enough sleep > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > off would end and so > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > months > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi similar question My DAN wants to put my daughter on flagyl and nystatin. Can she be cured off yeast just by SCD Lalitha --- borno35@... wrote: > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > did seem to clear his head and improve his > expressive language, but we ended > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > pain. We were up every > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > gas and colitis. As soon > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > talking. We've tried other > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > saying you should change at > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > reactions. We stayed on it > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > just not getting enough sleep > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > off would end and so > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > months > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 ty so much for this - my son has just gone to bed, he is still awake, he has the biggest blackest rings around his eyes, he looks shocking - u c i dont think its the drug that is the problem its all the preservatives, because he cant process them, they are disguising any real die off - u think its not happening but it probably is and has - on this diet surely 3 mths of antifungal support sud be enough just to break the back on it!! weve stopped fruit but i am allowing small amounts of manuka honey in baking - its antifungal and antibacterial so it sud compensate for any possible 'sugar' effects of the candida flare he too is complaining of stomach pain - i have started taking the amphotericin myself and and started scd proper 1 week ago , so far im okay - but then the boys are 2 mths ahead im assuming when u say uve tried others - which ones do u mean? the alternative ones i have found to be really good i must say, i always used caprylic acid, but i thought id give amphotericin a go - but u really need to alternate them all otherwise it can get quite resistant so im told but then that is from ppl who r not on scd and still battling i have real belief that this diet will work, I have too, weve tried evrything else, we cant afford DAN docters, and im battling very cynical relatives, confirmation for me was that kais bowels and behavioursb before we started the meds and went straight on intro went normal as did his brothers - it got messed up when he indulged on raw fruit at his fathers and weve pulled all now and we were rec some probiotics which have now caused horrendous upheaval - of course they werent scd legal!!!! so its just a case now of trying to get back where we started, how long have you been scd? thanks for ur help emma as scd 1 week kai asd dxpx fian 2 scd 9 weeks borno35@... wrote: Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 ty so much for this - my son has just gone to bed, he is still awake, he has the biggest blackest rings around his eyes, he looks shocking - u c i dont think its the drug that is the problem its all the preservatives, because he cant process them, they are disguising any real die off - u think its not happening but it probably is and has - on this diet surely 3 mths of antifungal support sud be enough just to break the back on it!! weve stopped fruit but i am allowing small amounts of manuka honey in baking - its antifungal and antibacterial so it sud compensate for any possible 'sugar' effects of the candida flare he too is complaining of stomach pain - i have started taking the amphotericin myself and and started scd proper 1 week ago , so far im okay - but then the boys are 2 mths ahead im assuming when u say uve tried others - which ones do u mean? the alternative ones i have found to be really good i must say, i always used caprylic acid, but i thought id give amphotericin a go - but u really need to alternate them all otherwise it can get quite resistant so im told but then that is from ppl who r not on scd and still battling i have real belief that this diet will work, I have too, weve tried evrything else, we cant afford DAN docters, and im battling very cynical relatives, confirmation for me was that kais bowels and behavioursb before we started the meds and went straight on intro went normal as did his brothers - it got messed up when he indulged on raw fruit at his fathers and weve pulled all now and we were rec some probiotics which have now caused horrendous upheaval - of course they werent scd legal!!!! so its just a case now of trying to get back where we started, how long have you been scd? thanks for ur help emma as scd 1 week kai asd dxpx fian 2 scd 9 weeks borno35@... wrote: Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 ty so much for this - my son has just gone to bed, he is still awake, he has the biggest blackest rings around his eyes, he looks shocking - u c i dont think its the drug that is the problem its all the preservatives, because he cant process them, they are disguising any real die off - u think its not happening but it probably is and has - on this diet surely 3 mths of antifungal support sud be enough just to break the back on it!! weve stopped fruit but i am allowing small amounts of manuka honey in baking - its antifungal and antibacterial so it sud compensate for any possible 'sugar' effects of the candida flare he too is complaining of stomach pain - i have started taking the amphotericin myself and and started scd proper 1 week ago , so far im okay - but then the boys are 2 mths ahead im assuming when u say uve tried others - which ones do u mean? the alternative ones i have found to be really good i must say, i always used caprylic acid, but i thought id give amphotericin a go - but u really need to alternate them all otherwise it can get quite resistant so im told but then that is from ppl who r not on scd and still battling i have real belief that this diet will work, I have too, weve tried evrything else, we cant afford DAN docters, and im battling very cynical relatives, confirmation for me was that kais bowels and behavioursb before we started the meds and went straight on intro went normal as did his brothers - it got messed up when he indulged on raw fruit at his fathers and weve pulled all now and we were rec some probiotics which have now caused horrendous upheaval - of course they werent scd legal!!!! so its just a case now of trying to get back where we started, how long have you been scd? thanks for ur help emma as scd 1 week kai asd dxpx fian 2 scd 9 weeks borno35@... wrote: Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal amphotericin b (spelling???). It did seem to clear his head and improve his expressive language, but we ended up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach pain. We were up every night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of gas and colitis. As soon as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less talking. We've tried other antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not saying you should change at this point just wanted to share with you my son's reactions. We stayed on it too long (about four months) in the sense he was just not getting enough sleep and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die off would end and so would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 in thory yes - if and when the bowel repairs itself it will eventually stabilise and begin to clear out the pathogens on its own but it depends i have been reading the knowledge base and she rec antibiotics for things like clostridia as diet alone cannot get rid of it, yeast sud in thory clear personally based on what ive seen of my own experience and read of others so far, i wud support the clearence with natural alternatives such as gse and oregano oil and caprylic acid - only if u have no colitis plus of course the yogurts hth emma > > > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > > did seem to clear his head and improve his > > expressive language, but we ended > > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > > pain. We were up every > > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > > gas and colitis. As soon > > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > > talking. We've tried other > > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > > saying you should change at > > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > > reactions. We stayed on it > > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > > just not getting enough sleep > > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > > off would end and so > > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > > months > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 in thory yes - if and when the bowel repairs itself it will eventually stabilise and begin to clear out the pathogens on its own but it depends i have been reading the knowledge base and she rec antibiotics for things like clostridia as diet alone cannot get rid of it, yeast sud in thory clear personally based on what ive seen of my own experience and read of others so far, i wud support the clearence with natural alternatives such as gse and oregano oil and caprylic acid - only if u have no colitis plus of course the yogurts hth emma > > > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > > did seem to clear his head and improve his > > expressive language, but we ended > > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > > pain. We were up every > > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > > gas and colitis. As soon > > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > > talking. We've tried other > > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > > saying you should change at > > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > > reactions. We stayed on it > > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > > just not getting enough sleep > > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > > off would end and so > > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > > months > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 in thory yes - if and when the bowel repairs itself it will eventually stabilise and begin to clear out the pathogens on its own but it depends i have been reading the knowledge base and she rec antibiotics for things like clostridia as diet alone cannot get rid of it, yeast sud in thory clear personally based on what ive seen of my own experience and read of others so far, i wud support the clearence with natural alternatives such as gse and oregano oil and caprylic acid - only if u have no colitis plus of course the yogurts hth emma > > > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > > did seem to clear his head and improve his > > expressive language, but we ended > > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > > pain. We were up every > > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > > gas and colitis. As soon > > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > > talking. We've tried other > > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > > saying you should change at > > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > > reactions. We stayed on it > > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > > just not getting enough sleep > > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > > off would end and so > > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > > months > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 in thory yes - if and when the bowel repairs itself it will eventually stabilise and begin to clear out the pathogens on its own but it depends i have been reading the knowledge base and she rec antibiotics for things like clostridia as diet alone cannot get rid of it, yeast sud in thory clear personally based on what ive seen of my own experience and read of others so far, i wud support the clearence with natural alternatives such as gse and oregano oil and caprylic acid - only if u have no colitis plus of course the yogurts hth emma > > > Prior to SCD my son was on the antifungal > > amphotericin b (spelling???). It > > did seem to clear his head and improve his > > expressive language, but we ended > > up having to stop because it gave him SUCH stomach > > pain. We were up every > > night with issues mostly because of HUGE amounts of > > gas and colitis. As soon > > as we got off he slept again, no gas, but less > > talking. We've tried other > > antifungals and now may go back to nystatin. Not > > saying you should change at > > this point just wanted to share with you my son's > > reactions. We stayed on it > > too long (about four months) in the sense he was > > just not getting enough sleep > > and neither were we. We just kept thinking the die > > off would end and so > > would the symptoms, but it didn't. , mom to > > Cameron 3.9 ASD and Peyton 19 > > months > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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