48 hours post photoderm

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I am sitting here at work, Mon a.m. I had my first photoderm treatment

on Saturday in Melbourne, FL, by Dr. Steve Pindiak. I got his name

from one of you and he is also on the Dr. Bitter trained list. I had a

consult with him prior to setting up this treatment. I could not wait

to get in this morning and write to you all. I know you guys will

understand.

I get there an hour early so they can put on the numbing cream. I said

to the assistant, wait, won't this affect my procedure..due to

constricting my blood vessels, etc. This fact, I got from you all. She

said NO, we wash it off before your treatment. Obviously, she did not

understand my question. The doctor was in a room treating someone

else, so I did not push the issue. I let her put it on. My face turned

cold and WHITE. I decide to relax, and tell myself the doctor must

know what he is doing.

About a half an hour later, I go to wash the numbing cream off with

water, I cannot feel my skin on my face.. that was nice...no burning

feeling. Wish we could put this stuff on when we are in pain from a

flare! My face was pretty white too. I could still see a few of my

bigger veins, they were still red.

I then go in the room for the procedure. I asked Dr. Pindiak about the

numbing cream and the constriction of my blood vessels..I could see my

white nose from the corner of my eye. He said yes, some of the creams

constrict, but not this one. Hmm, I sure looked white. He turned the

machine on, which had a computer on top. He said, darn this thing is

out of water. GREAT!! It had to happen on the day I was getting

treatment. He said he had to add water, and has not done that before,

it may take a minute. Here I am watching him struggle with this task..

I was so nervous. I had to keep calming myself. He assures me that

when he is done, the computer would do alot of diagnostic testing and

would never let the photderm function if it was not ready. OK, I felt

better.

He booted it up fine. He applied some alcohol to my face to make it

flush. Normally, I would have been beat red with the anxiety, and

being warm.. so I really feel like the cream was constricting my blood

vessels. I am not sure if the alochol made me flush..I could not feel

anything. He then applied the cooling cream and began to zap. I could

feel it. I couldn't imagine how it would feel without the numbing

cream!

The skin between my lip and nose was the most sensitive. I jumped. It

took about 30 minutes of zapping and I was done. He had told me

throughout the procedure that my face was responding just fine.

When we finished, I was afraid to look in the mirror. I did, and I

looked FINE. Probably because the numbing cream was still constricting

my vessels.. not sure.

I was fine all day, then at night I looked a little red and swollen. i

was almost glad, because it didn't look or feel like I just had my

whole face lasered (for lack of a better word). I thought about the

person that posted about the photoderm that did not do anything to her

skin because it was not set high enough.

Today, I seem less flarey. I am not sure how I feel. I am ecstatic

that I do not have blisters and welts, which is what I was afraid

of... but my face feels really good.

I will keep you all posted. I plan to have 3 total, that was the

package deal. My next one is June 2. I feel like the whole thing was

no big deal...why did I stress so much??!!!

Oh yeah, he used 550 filter all over..and said if we miss any deeper

veins, he may get those with a laser. So I am thinking, that even if

the filter was not high enough, he will get them next time. Overall, I

felt like he was caring and listened to me, and maybe being on the

conservative side is better at first. I can always get more!

[Guest guest]

The 550 filter is commonly used during the first procedure to target

the shallow vessels. Later they should increase the filtration to

570, 590, and 645nm, sometimes higher.

The ispropyl alcohol irritated the skin enough to cause the shallow

and intermediate vessels to flush. This is great. Later on, when

deeper feed vessels are targeted with higher filters, you can induce

dilation in the deeper vessels by drinking a couple of cups of hot

coffee while waiting for the numbing cream to take effect. Let the

beverage cool just enough that it doesn't burn your mouth. Then take

deep sips, and hold the hot beverage in you mouth before swallowing,

then take another sip. I can assure you that this technique is quite

effective.

My thanks to Dr Nase for mentioning this in page 184 of his book, and

to for bringing it to my attention ~ as fortune would have it,

right before my TX 13, which targeted the deep feeder vessels and

thermoregulatory shunt vessels via 695nm filter and YAG 1064nm laser.

~Jim

**********************************************************

Hi everyone,

I am sitting here at work, Mon a.m. I had my first photoderm

treatment on Saturday in Melbourne, FL, by Dr. Steve Pindiak. I got

his name from one of you and he is also on the Dr. Bitter trained

list. I had a consult with him prior to setting up this treatment. I

could not wait to get in this morning and write to you all. I know

you guys will understand.

I get there an hour early so they can put on the numbing cream. I

said to the assistant, wait, won't this affect my procedure..due to

constricting my blood vessels, etc. This fact, I got from you all.

She said NO, we wash it off before your treatment. Obviously, she did

not understand my question. The doctor was in a room treating someone

else, so I did not push the issue. I let her put it on. My face

turned cold and WHITE. I decide to relax, and tell myself the doctor

must know what he is doing.

About a half an hour later, I go to wash the numbing cream off with

water, I cannot feel my skin on my face.. that was nice...no burning

feeling. Wish we could put this stuff on when we are in pain from a

flare! My face was pretty white too. I could still see a few of my

bigger veins, they were still red.

I then go in the room for the procedure. I asked Dr. Pindiak about

the numbing cream and the constriction of my blood vessels..I could

see my white nose from the corner of my eye. He said yes, some of the

creams constrict, but not this one. Hmm, I sure looked white. He

turned the machine on, which had a computer on top. He said, darn

this thing is out of water. GREAT!! It had to happen on the day I was

getting treatment. He said he had to add water, and has not done that

before, it may take a minute. Here I am watching him struggle with

this task..

I was so nervous. I had to keep calming myself. He assures me that

when he is done, the computer would do alot of diagnostic testing and

would never let the photderm function if it was not ready. OK, I felt

better.

He booted it up fine. He applied some alcohol to my face to make it

flush. Normally, I would have been beat red with the anxiety, and

being warm.. so I really feel like the cream was constricting my

blood vessels. I am not sure if the alochol made me flush..I could

not feel anything. He then applied the cooling cream and began to

zap. I could feel it. I couldn't imagine how it would feel without

the numbing cream!

The skin between my lip and nose was the most sensitive. I jumped. It

took about 30 minutes of zapping and I was done. He had told me

throughout the procedure that my face was responding just fine.

When we finished, I was afraid to look in the mirror. I did, and I

looked FINE. Probably because the numbing cream was still

constricting

my vessels.. not sure.

I was fine all day, then at night I looked a little red and swollen.

i was almost glad, because it didn't look or feel like I just had my

whole face lasered (for lack of a better word). I thought about the

person that posted about the photoderm that did not do anything to

her skin because it was not set high enough.

Today, I seem less flarey. I am not sure how I feel. I am ecstatic

that I do not have blisters and welts, which is what I was afraid

of... but my face feels really good.

I will keep you all posted. I plan to have 3 total, that was the

package deal. My next one is June 2. I feel like the whole thing was

no big deal...why did I stress so much??!!!

Oh yeah, he used 550 filter all over..and said if we miss any deeper

veins, he may get those with a laser. So I am thinking, that even if

the filter was not high enough, he will get them next time. Overall,

I felt like he was caring and listened to me, and maybe being on the

conservative side is better at first. I can always get more!

[Guest guest]

The 550 filter is commonly used during the first procedure to target

the shallow vessels. Later they should increase the filtration to

570, 590, and 645nm, sometimes higher.

The ispropyl alcohol irritated the skin enough to cause the shallow

and intermediate vessels to flush. This is great. Later on, when

deeper feed vessels are targeted with higher filters, you can induce

dilation in the deeper vessels by drinking a couple of cups of hot

coffee while waiting for the numbing cream to take effect. Let the

beverage cool just enough that it doesn't burn your mouth. Then take

deep sips, and hold the hot beverage in you mouth before swallowing,

then take another sip. I can assure you that this technique is quite

effective.

My thanks to Dr Nase for mentioning this in page 184 of his book, and

to for bringing it to my attention ~ as fortune would have it,

right before my TX 13, which targeted the deep feeder vessels and

thermoregulatory shunt vessels via 695nm filter and YAG 1064nm laser.

~Jim

**********************************************************

Hi everyone,

I am sitting here at work, Mon a.m. I had my first photoderm

treatment on Saturday in Melbourne, FL, by Dr. Steve Pindiak. I got

his name from one of you and he is also on the Dr. Bitter trained

list. I had a consult with him prior to setting up this treatment. I

could not wait to get in this morning and write to you all. I know

you guys will understand.

I get there an hour early so they can put on the numbing cream. I

said to the assistant, wait, won't this affect my procedure..due to

constricting my blood vessels, etc. This fact, I got from you all.

She said NO, we wash it off before your treatment. Obviously, she did

not understand my question. The doctor was in a room treating someone

else, so I did not push the issue. I let her put it on. My face

turned cold and WHITE. I decide to relax, and tell myself the doctor

must know what he is doing.

About a half an hour later, I go to wash the numbing cream off with

water, I cannot feel my skin on my face.. that was nice...no burning

feeling. Wish we could put this stuff on when we are in pain from a

flare! My face was pretty white too. I could still see a few of my

bigger veins, they were still red.

I then go in the room for the procedure. I asked Dr. Pindiak about

the numbing cream and the constriction of my blood vessels..I could

see my white nose from the corner of my eye. He said yes, some of the

creams constrict, but not this one. Hmm, I sure looked white. He

turned the machine on, which had a computer on top. He said, darn

this thing is out of water. GREAT!! It had to happen on the day I was

getting treatment. He said he had to add water, and has not done that

before, it may take a minute. Here I am watching him struggle with

this task..

I was so nervous. I had to keep calming myself. He assures me that

when he is done, the computer would do alot of diagnostic testing and

would never let the photderm function if it was not ready. OK, I felt

better.

He booted it up fine. He applied some alcohol to my face to make it

flush. Normally, I would have been beat red with the anxiety, and

being warm.. so I really feel like the cream was constricting my

blood vessels. I am not sure if the alochol made me flush..I could

not feel anything. He then applied the cooling cream and began to

zap. I could feel it. I couldn't imagine how it would feel without

the numbing cream!

The skin between my lip and nose was the most sensitive. I jumped. It

took about 30 minutes of zapping and I was done. He had told me

throughout the procedure that my face was responding just fine.

When we finished, I was afraid to look in the mirror. I did, and I

looked FINE. Probably because the numbing cream was still

constricting

my vessels.. not sure.

I was fine all day, then at night I looked a little red and swollen.

i was almost glad, because it didn't look or feel like I just had my

whole face lasered (for lack of a better word). I thought about the

person that posted about the photoderm that did not do anything to

her skin because it was not set high enough.

Today, I seem less flarey. I am not sure how I feel. I am ecstatic

that I do not have blisters and welts, which is what I was afraid

of... but my face feels really good.

I will keep you all posted. I plan to have 3 total, that was the

package deal. My next one is June 2. I feel like the whole thing was

no big deal...why did I stress so much??!!!

Oh yeah, he used 550 filter all over..and said if we miss any deeper

veins, he may get those with a laser. So I am thinking, that even if

the filter was not high enough, he will get them next time. Overall,

I felt like he was caring and listened to me, and maybe being on the

conservative side is better at first. I can always get more!