Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I've only posted a few times, but my little Chase received his STARband yesterday from CHOA in Atlanta. He did awesome and I'm so proud of him! He never made a single peep when the orthotist was trying the band on and off, making his adjustments. And today, Chase seems to be his normal jovial self. He doesn't even seem to realize he has it on. I am so releived! I had been so worried but now I realize that he is going to be just fine. It has taken me seeing him with his STARband to realize that my precious little boy is still inside....nothing has changed at all. He just has a little hat on his head! This group has been the biggest support for me during the last several months. Thanks everyone Dena, mom to Chase (7 1/2 months) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I am glad that he took to it so well. From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of denascherer Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:11 PM Plagiocephaly Subject: We did it! I've only posted a few times, but my little Chase received his STARband yesterday from CHOA in Atlanta. He did awesome and I'm so proud of him! He never made a single peep when the orthotist was trying the band on and off, making his adjustments. And today, Chase seems to be his normal jovial self. He doesn't even seem to realize he has it on. I am so releived! I had been so worried but now I realize that he is going to be just fine. It has taken me seeing him with his STARband to realize that my precious little boy is still inside....nothing has changed at all. He just has a little hat on his head! This group has been the biggest support for me during the last several months. Thanks everyone Dena, mom to Chase (7 1/2 months) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 That's wonderful Dena!!!! I am so glad Chase is adjusting well!!! How did he do in the night? Post some pics so wee can see how precious he is!!!!!! JEN Mommy to 4...and 1 more!!!! Luli - Tort/Plagio - Hanger Band - CA "Luli" www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 That is great that he is doing so well. It's often surprising how well babies adapt to things. Keep us updated. Jen (24.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad (4.5 years) > > I've only posted a few times, but my little Chase received his > STARband yesterday from CHOA in Atlanta. He did awesome and I'm so > proud of him! He never made a single peep when the orthotist was > trying the band on and off, making his adjustments. And today, Chase > seems to be his normal jovial self. He doesn't even seem to realize > he has it on. I am so releived! I had been so worried but now I > realize that he is going to be just fine. It has taken me seeing him > with his STARband to realize that my precious little boy is still > inside....nothing has changed at all. He just has a little hat on his > head! This group has been the biggest support for me during the last > several months. Thanks everyone > > Dena, mom to Chase (7 1/2 months) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 It's exciting, we've been truly Blessed. Well done and CONGRATULATIONS!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 GSE is grapefruit seed extract. There is grape extract, and this is not the same thing. Oil of Oregano is a supplement that is a tincture/processed to the point of high potency. I use Nature's Answer Oil of Oregano because it is alcohol free. I put the drops of GSE or OoO into empty veg. capsules. Dosing is very individual, and I would not recommend doing this until you've done a fair amount of research and know what you are getting your child into. There are so many factors involved and these kids are so fragile. Culturelle is an easy one, you can buy it online, it is a probiotic and you could begin this one as soon as you wanted. You can give enzymes and these products in the same day, just not at the same time. I'd read up on probiotics, enzymes and natural antibacterial/antiviral/yeast agents prior to beginning, so you get the best, most appropriate dosing and timing for your child. We had detoxed gently with Ojibwa tea prior to doing these other things. Our current dosage is not what we started out dosing so many years ago. One thing that I've not read anywhere but here, with this group, and has proved very very valuable is this, when dosing antiviral, antibiotic or yeast treatments, incorporating a couple of No Fenol at the same time. We use Candidase and Digest Gold and other things too, but remember it does no good to attack these things if you aren't moving them out, and moving them out in a gentle way that doesn't overwhelm the kidneys and liver (which, other than sweating, is how you excrete all the good and bad). Good luck, Re: WE DID IT! Hi Reading your story has brought me much hope for my son. Thank you. Our first DAN! appointment is coming up. It has been 2 1/2 long months anitcipating this day (Tuesday). In short, my son is 12yrs old and is diagnosed moderate autistic. He talks(average) and writes and reads beautifully. Socially his behaviour is affected pretty badly (very shy), his speech is there but without meaningful conversations. He will ask and talk and ask in short sentences. He gets by. He repeats hiself and gets anxious and gets really mad when we don't give him the " right answers " . He often reflects back on past events(halloween, birthdays, etc.) and talks about them and gets upset (he screams no more halloween !, no more b-day!) all day long. He is also an extremely very picky eater. Certain foods he can't even look at ,ex.: meat and things that have a lot of sauce and strong in smell. His diet is minimum. Because of his age we are hoping that it is not too late to get him recovered and get started in cleaning his gut. It is very difficult to know where to start and what to target. This is all very new to us. Very draining and confusing. The internet has helped me start the process with the enzyme and a supplement. The gfcf diet we have been on it for the last 3 weeks, we get better with time(very difficult when they are older and picky eaters to begin with). I am hoping that one day I will able to write a happy story and tell you all how beautifully and fluently my son is talking....it seem so far away. Heleni ammattson <ammattson@...> wrote: Thank you. I understand what you are saying with regards to giving him a supplement that is " supposed to help " and yet isn't yielding any improvement in the area that most concerns you. Could be the supplement, could be the state he is in, maybe unable to absorb the nutrient, which with the taurine issue is what I as a parent, would think. We use Kirkman Cod Liver oil, dosing per Dr. Megson. We use Nordic Naturals Pro DHA 1 capsule daily. But these weren't given until we'd been on enzymes and done some gentle detox for quite some time. We've done numerous things to deal with the viral issues. Initially it was the Ojibwa tea alone, then we incorporated enzymes, then we began rotating Olive Leaf extract in and out of his daily regimen. During this time, although we knew there was a viral issue, we weren't sure " which " virus/es. There were several that I suspected and confess that when I approached multiple local doctors in the State where I live, I was the recipient of much eye rolling and negative comments. It wasn't until I found Dr. Goldberg that I found a captive audience for my suppositions and also found someone with the ability to test for these suspected culprits. One of the nasties I suspected was CMV, which 5 years ago was a qualifying statement for a parent to the looney bin. Talking me through my reasoning for these viral " Suspects " we narrowed it down to a few I feared, a few he suspected and ran the tests. The result was one that both of us agreed initially, was highly suspect, and really 5 years ago wasn't even recognized as a virus by a majority of the pediatric medical community. That is, HHV6, herpes 6. At that time there were 8 known strains. The most familiar are Herpes 1 and 2. The main drug used was Valtrex. No long term studies on it's affects on children, no dosing schedule for the pediatric community established, no nothing. It was an adult drug, that doctors, at there discretion used on kids. The only modifying direction was to rinse off the blue dye that coats the pills. There wasn't even a dose small enough made for children, we just cut up the pill per the Doctors' directions. We saw changes, but this is not a road I would ever go down again, either with that Doctor or that drug. We left that practice after a very severe falling out (he was pushing SSRI's) (Again there were no long term studies on children under 5, which my son was, and the research I'd done all said that if you took a person off the SSRI too soon, you had worse issues than before the drug was begun. The Doctor did not want to prescribe the drug for behavioral issues, ph has never been that sort of child, he wanted to do it as part of his standard operating protocol for these kids. He was one of the early ones to acknowledge it was reduced blood flow in the brain, due to these viral and bacterial infections that caused these developmental issues, and he was using the SSRI's to open up the vessels to accommodate/increase blood flow in the brain.) Now, here was our argument in a nutshell as I can recall from memory, Me: If there is reduced blood flow in the brain, due to this viral infection and possible other bacterial issues, didn't the body reduce blood flow to protect his brain? Doctor Goldberg: Yes. Me: Since it's been six months and the viral load has not gone down at all on the Valtrex, why would I open up the blood flow with an SSRI and allow this virus and other bacteria access to his brain tissue for which they have an affinity? The body is amazing, and if it shut down the blood flow, shouldn't I be working on addressing the underlying cause of that? And, if I do that successfully, won't the vessels and subsequent blood flow increase automatically? Doctor: In theory, but it's possible without using the SSRI's the blood flow won't increase at all. Me: Since we've not had the viral load go down at all yet, isn't it premature to open these floodgates? What if what we let in, does irreparable damage to ph's brain? Doctor: I'VE HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS FOR WHOM I USE THIS PROTOCAL! (My husband was with me, he's a cop, and he literally came to stand between me and the Doctor. I've learned, never trust a Doctor that attempts to bully, however gently or aggressively) Me: Well, if you've hundreds of patients, how many patients have successfully gone off the SSRI's and are completely healed? Doctor: I CAN'T TREAT YOUR SON ANY LONGER IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUESTION MY JUDGMENT. YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE, YOU ASKED FOR MY HELP, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT. Me: Well, if you won't be reasonable about not allowing the SSRI's, then we'll leave your practice, but ph is on Valtrex, how do we wean him off? (all along we'd been told how dangerous it would be to go cold turkey. we'd seen some scary side effects and had wanted to stop the dosing on several occasions) Doctor: I'll help you reduce his dosage comfortably. As we left, and paid for the visit, I asked the nurse " isn't it true, the research, that if you go off SSRI's too soon, you end up with worse problems than before beginning? " She said yes. I then asked " isn't it true that there are no long term studies of the effects of SSRI's on children under the age of 5? " Again she said yes. " How many patients of Dr. Goldberg's have successfully gone off of all medications and been completely healed? " She said " one " . At that point I said we're out of here. We left, and yeah, when it came time to wean ph off, the nurse for the office, sent an email that said when the prescription ran out, just stop the medication. Armed with the knowledge we were dealing with Herpes 6, I then looked for other treatments and Doctors to address this virus. The virus does any number of things, some affect the vision. Here's the thing. These kids are so fragile with regards to nutrient absorption, that they are leaching nutrients from very rich sources in their bodies to make up the deficits. The eyes are very nutrient rich, as are the bones. We knew ph had osteopenia, so we knew his body was leaching nutrients from his bones, but if they were leaching them from his eyes, then could we not only stop the vision issues, but actually reverse them? According to the Optometrist we consulted, No. But the Ophthalmologist/Vision specialist we consulted, said, Maybe. Looking for a Doctor to address the viral issue, the vision issue and the gut issue, we found Dr. Megson. Under her care we've used Monolaurin. Alternating Monolaurin with Olive Leaf extract. We saw no difference in the viral load until we introduced (all during the same summer) enzymedica products. We began using Virastop, and to address the subsequent yeast issues that occur when you address a viral issue, we also incorporated Digest Gold and Candidase. We're up to 9 capsules 2 times a day of Virastop combined with either one 300mg. Monolaurin capsule or 10 drops of liquid Olive Leaf extract in an empty veg. based capsule. Plus one No Fenol, one vit. C caplet, 3 Digest Gold and 1 Candidase. That is his viral protocol. The bacterial and yeast are different. I really feel ph's vision stopped deteriorating when we began building up his ability to absorb nutrients from his diet. His osteopenia is no longer. I think ph's vision improved with the viral protocol as it does affect the vision, and the vision therapy and prescription lenses combined with the irlen color tint helped him progress. He outgrew/improved in his vision through several pairs of glasses, to the point where he now no longer requires glasses. His vision is 20/25. We'll continue what we're doing, and God willing it will improve even beyond that mark. But, the cone/rod issue with his eyes, the sideways glancing he did as a toddler, the tracking issues, which made reading a daily event fraught with tears, are no longer. For ph, we were at one point, prior to beginning of enzymes,down to pork, rice, water and salt and pepper to taste for every meal. These were the only things he didn't get red ears, eczema, and so many other symptoms/reactions from. Eventually the diet has expanded, with the help of enzymes. Child can now eat bananas and oranges without turning into Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hyde, a day I wasn't sure would ever come. In fact, he can even eat whole oats, perhaps he doesn't have Celiac's after all. His osteopenia and other issues were all present and accounted for in various tests prior to our biomed intervention. The regular kid fare/kid diet wasn't doing anything for him. He was a mess. So, it wasn't a stretch for me to do such a radical elimination diet the way I did so many years ago. I'd read many books, and knew if I did this right, if I built up his gut to absorb nutrients, eventually he'd be able to eat just about anything. Child eats like a horse, and it's a beautiful thing. He is a perfect weight and building muscle. His 16 means we're well on our way. He's not shown any nutritional deficiencies in years, blood tests verify this fact. But, 60 % of the immune system is in the gut, and I know that mucosal coating in his gut is a major player. I hope this helps. Good luck, and again Thank you for the Congratulations. We're walking on air. --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Wow very helpful info. thank you. I am very prepared for our Tuesday appointment with our DAN!. I will be placing my Culturelle online immediately and for all the other items I will take your advice and get guidance from our DAN! so that I don't harm my child. I don't know enough and I haven't done enough research. I have to admit, at times, the research confuses more. So much to absorb. If I can please ask you one more question, if my son is not 100% gfcf, can I still introduce to him the probiotic Culturelle? Thanks again . Heleni ammattson <ammattson@...> wrote: GSE is grapefruit seed extract. There is grape extract, and this is not the same thing. Oil of Oregano is a supplement that is a tincture/processed to the point of high potency. I use Nature's Answer Oil of Oregano because it is alcohol free. I put the drops of GSE or OoO into empty veg. capsules. Dosing is very individual, and I would not recommend doing this until you've done a fair amount of research and know what you are getting your child into. There are so many factors involved and these kids are so fragile. Culturelle is an easy one, you can buy it online, it is a probiotic and you could begin this one as soon as you wanted. You can give enzymes and these products in the same day, just not at the same time. I'd read up on probiotics, enzymes and natural antibacterial/antiviral/yeast agents prior to beginning, so you get the best, most appropriate dosing and timing for your child. We had detoxed gently with Ojibwa tea prior to doing these other things. Our current dosage is not what we started out dosing so many years ago. One thing that I've not read anywhere but here, with this group, and has proved very very valuable is this, when dosing antiviral, antibiotic or yeast treatments, incorporating a couple of No Fenol at the same time. We use Candidase and Digest Gold and other things too, but remember it does no good to attack these things if you aren't moving them out, and moving them out in a gentle way that doesn't overwhelm the kidneys and liver (which, other than sweating, is how you excrete all the good and bad). Good luck, Re: WE DID IT! Hi Reading your story has brought me much hope for my son. Thank you. Our first DAN! appointment is coming up. It has been 2 1/2 long months anitcipating this day (Tuesday). In short, my son is 12yrs old and is diagnosed moderate autistic. He talks(average) and writes and reads beautifully. Socially his behaviour is affected pretty badly (very shy), his speech is there but without meaningful conversations. He will ask and talk and ask in short sentences. He gets by. He repeats hiself and gets anxious and gets really mad when we don't give him the " right answers " . He often reflects back on past events(halloween, birthdays, etc.) and talks about them and gets upset (he screams no more halloween !, no more b-day!) all day long. He is also an extremely very picky eater. Certain foods he can't even look at ,ex.: meat and things that have a lot of sauce and strong in smell. His diet is minimum. Because of his age we are hoping that it is not too late to get him recovered and get started in cleaning his gut. It is very difficult to know where to start and what to target. This is all very new to us. Very draining and confusing. The internet has helped me start the process with the enzyme and a supplement. The gfcf diet we have been on it for the last 3 weeks, we get better with time(very difficult when they are older and picky eaters to begin with). I am hoping that one day I will able to write a happy story and tell you all how beautifully and fluently my son is talking....it seem so far away. Heleni ammattson <ammattson@...> wrote: Thank you. I understand what you are saying with regards to giving him a supplement that is " supposed to help " and yet isn't yielding any improvement in the area that most concerns you. Could be the supplement, could be the state he is in, maybe unable to absorb the nutrient, which with the taurine issue is what I as a parent, would think. We use Kirkman Cod Liver oil, dosing per Dr. Megson. We use Nordic Naturals Pro DHA 1 capsule daily. But these weren't given until we'd been on enzymes and done some gentle detox for quite some time. We've done numerous things to deal with the viral issues. Initially it was the Ojibwa tea alone, then we incorporated enzymes, then we began rotating Olive Leaf extract in and out of his daily regimen. During this time, although we knew there was a viral issue, we weren't sure " which " virus/es. There were several that I suspected and confess that when I approached multiple local doctors in the State where I live, I was the recipient of much eye rolling and negative comments. It wasn't until I found Dr. Goldberg that I found a captive audience for my suppositions and also found someone with the ability to test for these suspected culprits. One of the nasties I suspected was CMV, which 5 years ago was a qualifying statement for a parent to the looney bin. Talking me through my reasoning for these viral " Suspects " we narrowed it down to a few I feared, a few he suspected and ran the tests. The result was one that both of us agreed initially, was highly suspect, and really 5 years ago wasn't even recognized as a virus by a majority of the pediatric medical community. That is, HHV6, herpes 6. At that time there were 8 known strains. The most familiar are Herpes 1 and 2. The main drug used was Valtrex. No long term studies on it's affects on children, no dosing schedule for the pediatric community established, no nothing. It was an adult drug, that doctors, at there discretion used on kids. The only modifying direction was to rinse off the blue dye that coats the pills. There wasn't even a dose small enough made for children, we just cut up the pill per the Doctors' directions. We saw changes, but this is not a road I would ever go down again, either with that Doctor or that drug. We left that practice after a very severe falling out (he was pushing SSRI's) (Again there were no long term studies on children under 5, which my son was, and the research I'd done all said that if you took a person off the SSRI too soon, you had worse issues than before the drug was begun. The Doctor did not want to prescribe the drug for behavioral issues, ph has never been that sort of child, he wanted to do it as part of his standard operating protocol for these kids. He was one of the early ones to acknowledge it was reduced blood flow in the brain, due to these viral and bacterial infections that caused these developmental issues, and he was using the SSRI's to open up the vessels to accommodate/increase blood flow in the brain.) Now, here was our argument in a nutshell as I can recall from memory, Me: If there is reduced blood flow in the brain, due to this viral infection and possible other bacterial issues, didn't the body reduce blood flow to protect his brain? Doctor Goldberg: Yes. Me: Since it's been six months and the viral load has not gone down at all on the Valtrex, why would I open up the blood flow with an SSRI and allow this virus and other bacteria access to his brain tissue for which they have an affinity? The body is amazing, and if it shut down the blood flow, shouldn't I be working on addressing the underlying cause of that? And, if I do that successfully, won't the vessels and subsequent blood flow increase automatically? Doctor: In theory, but it's possible without using the SSRI's the blood flow won't increase at all. Me: Since we've not had the viral load go down at all yet, isn't it premature to open these floodgates? What if what we let in, does irreparable damage to ph's brain? Doctor: I'VE HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS FOR WHOM I USE THIS PROTOCAL! (My husband was with me, he's a cop, and he literally came to stand between me and the Doctor. I've learned, never trust a Doctor that attempts to bully, however gently or aggressively) Me: Well, if you've hundreds of patients, how many patients have successfully gone off the SSRI's and are completely healed? Doctor: I CAN'T TREAT YOUR SON ANY LONGER IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUESTION MY JUDGMENT. YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE, YOU ASKED FOR MY HELP, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT. Me: Well, if you won't be reasonable about not allowing the SSRI's, then we'll leave your practice, but ph is on Valtrex, how do we wean him off? (all along we'd been told how dangerous it would be to go cold turkey. we'd seen some scary side effects and had wanted to stop the dosing on several occasions) Doctor: I'll help you reduce his dosage comfortably. As we left, and paid for the visit, I asked the nurse " isn't it true, the research, that if you go off SSRI's too soon, you end up with worse problems than before beginning? " She said yes. I then asked " isn't it true that there are no long term studies of the effects of SSRI's on children under the age of 5? " Again she said yes. " How many patients of Dr. Goldberg's have successfully gone off of all medications and been completely healed? " She said " one " . At that point I said we're out of here. We left, and yeah, when it came time to wean ph off, the nurse for the office, sent an email that said when the prescription ran out, just stop the medication. Armed with the knowledge we were dealing with Herpes 6, I then looked for other treatments and Doctors to address this virus. The virus does any number of things, some affect the vision. Here's the thing. These kids are so fragile with regards to nutrient absorption, that they are leaching nutrients from very rich sources in their bodies to make up the deficits. The eyes are very nutrient rich, as are the bones. We knew ph had osteopenia, so we knew his body was leaching nutrients from his bones, but if they were leaching them from his eyes, then could we not only stop the vision issues, but actually reverse them? According to the Optometrist we consulted, No. But the Ophthalmologist/Vision specialist we consulted, said, Maybe. Looking for a Doctor to address the viral issue, the vision issue and the gut issue, we found Dr. Megson. Under her care we've used Monolaurin. Alternating Monolaurin with Olive Leaf extract. We saw no difference in the viral load until we introduced (all during the same summer) enzymedica products. We began using Virastop, and to address the subsequent yeast issues that occur when you address a viral issue, we also incorporated Digest Gold and Candidase. We're up to 9 capsules 2 times a day of Virastop combined with either one 300mg. Monolaurin capsule or 10 drops of liquid Olive Leaf extract in an empty veg. based capsule. Plus one No Fenol, one vit. C caplet, 3 Digest Gold and 1 Candidase. That is his viral protocol. The bacterial and yeast are different. I really feel ph's vision stopped deteriorating when we began building up his ability to absorb nutrients from his diet. His osteopenia is no longer. I think ph's vision improved with the viral protocol as it does affect the vision, and the vision therapy and prescription lenses combined with the irlen color tint helped him progress. He outgrew/improved in his vision through several pairs of glasses, to the point where he now no longer requires glasses. His vision is 20/25. We'll continue what we're doing, and God willing it will improve even beyond that mark. But, the cone/rod issue with his eyes, the sideways glancing he did as a toddler, the tracking issues, which made reading a daily event fraught with tears, are no longer. For ph, we were at one point, prior to beginning of enzymes,down to pork, rice, water and salt and pepper to taste for every meal. These were the only things he didn't get red ears, eczema, and so many other symptoms/reactions from. Eventually the diet has expanded, with the help of enzymes. Child can now eat bananas and oranges without turning into Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hyde, a day I wasn't sure would ever come. In fact, he can even eat whole oats, perhaps he doesn't have Celiac's after all. His osteopenia and other issues were all present and accounted for in various tests prior to our biomed intervention. The regular kid fare/kid diet wasn't doing anything for him. He was a mess. So, it wasn't a stretch for me to do such a radical elimination diet the way I did so many years ago. I'd read many books, and knew if I did this right, if I built up his gut to absorb nutrients, eventually he'd be able to eat just about anything. Child eats like a horse, and it's a beautiful thing. He is a perfect weight and building muscle. His 16 means we're well on our way. He's not shown any nutritional deficiencies in years, blood tests verify this fact. But, 60 % of the immune system is in the gut, and I know that mucosal coating in his gut is a major player. I hope this helps. Good luck, and again Thank you for the Congratulations. We're walking on air. --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account! 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Not being totally GFCF won't impact the Culturelle. The concern sometimes goes in the other direction, as the Culturelle has very small amounts of casein/whey in it. I'm glad the information was useful. Re: WE DID IT! Hi Reading your story has brought me much hope for my son. Thank you. Our first DAN! appointment is coming up. It has been 2 1/2 long months anitcipating this day (Tuesday). In short, my son is 12yrs old and is diagnosed moderate autistic. He talks(average) and writes and reads beautifully. Socially his behaviour is affected pretty badly (very shy), his speech is there but without meaningful conversations. He will ask and talk and ask in short sentences. He gets by. He repeats hiself and gets anxious and gets really mad when we don't give him the " right answers " . He often reflects back on past events(halloween, birthdays, etc.) and talks about them and gets upset (he screams no more halloween !, no more b-day!) all day long. He is also an extremely very picky eater. Certain foods he can't even look at ,ex.: meat and things that have a lot of sauce and strong in smell. His diet is minimum. Because of his age we are hoping that it is not too late to get him recovered and get started in cleaning his gut. It is very difficult to know where to start and what to target. This is all very new to us. Very draining and confusing. The internet has helped me start the process with the enzyme and a supplement. The gfcf diet we have been on it for the last 3 weeks, we get better with time(very difficult when they are older and picky eaters to begin with). I am hoping that one day I will able to write a happy story and tell you all how beautifully and fluently my son is talking....it seem so far away. Heleni ammattson <ammattson@...> wrote: Thank you. I understand what you are saying with regards to giving him a supplement that is " supposed to help " and yet isn't yielding any improvement in the area that most concerns you. Could be the supplement, could be the state he is in, maybe unable to absorb the nutrient, which with the taurine issue is what I as a parent, would think. We use Kirkman Cod Liver oil, dosing per Dr. Megson. We use Nordic Naturals Pro DHA 1 capsule daily. But these weren't given until we'd been on enzymes and done some gentle detox for quite some time. We've done numerous things to deal with the viral issues. Initially it was the Ojibwa tea alone, then we incorporated enzymes, then we began rotating Olive Leaf extract in and out of his daily regimen. During this time, although we knew there was a viral issue, we weren't sure " which " virus/es. There were several that I suspected and confess that when I approached multiple local doctors in the State where I live, I was the recipient of much eye rolling and negative comments. It wasn't until I found Dr. Goldberg that I found a captive audience for my suppositions and also found someone with the ability to test for these suspected culprits. One of the nasties I suspected was CMV, which 5 years ago was a qualifying statement for a parent to the looney bin. Talking me through my reasoning for these viral " Suspects " we narrowed it down to a few I feared, a few he suspected and ran the tests. The result was one that both of us agreed initially, was highly suspect, and really 5 years ago wasn't even recognized as a virus by a majority of the pediatric medical community. That is, HHV6, herpes 6. At that time there were 8 known strains. The most familiar are Herpes 1 and 2. The main drug used was Valtrex. No long term studies on it's affects on children, no dosing schedule for the pediatric community established, no nothing. It was an adult drug, that doctors, at there discretion used on kids. The only modifying direction was to rinse off the blue dye that coats the pills. There wasn't even a dose small enough made for children, we just cut up the pill per the Doctors' directions. We saw changes, but this is not a road I would ever go down again, either with that Doctor or that drug. We left that practice after a very severe falling out (he was pushing SSRI's) (Again there were no long term studies on children under 5, which my son was, and the research I'd done all said that if you took a person off the SSRI too soon, you had worse issues than before the drug was begun. The Doctor did not want to prescribe the drug for behavioral issues, ph has never been that sort of child, he wanted to do it as part of his standard operating protocol for these kids. He was one of the early ones to acknowledge it was reduced blood flow in the brain, due to these viral and bacterial infections that caused these developmental issues, and he was using the SSRI's to open up the vessels to accommodate/increase blood flow in the brain.) Now, here was our argument in a nutshell as I can recall from memory, Me: If there is reduced blood flow in the brain, due to this viral infection and possible other bacterial issues, didn't the body reduce blood flow to protect his brain? Doctor Goldberg: Yes. Me: Since it's been six months and the viral load has not gone down at all on the Valtrex, why would I open up the blood flow with an SSRI and allow this virus and other bacteria access to his brain tissue for which they have an affinity? The body is amazing, and if it shut down the blood flow, shouldn't I be working on addressing the underlying cause of that? And, if I do that successfully, won't the vessels and subsequent blood flow increase automatically? Doctor: In theory, but it's possible without using the SSRI's the blood flow won't increase at all. Me: Since we've not had the viral load go down at all yet, isn't it premature to open these floodgates? What if what we let in, does irreparable damage to ph's brain? Doctor: I'VE HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS FOR WHOM I USE THIS PROTOCAL! (My husband was with me, he's a cop, and he literally came to stand between me and the Doctor. I've learned, never trust a Doctor that attempts to bully, however gently or aggressively) Me: Well, if you've hundreds of patients, how many patients have successfully gone off the SSRI's and are completely healed? Doctor: I CAN'T TREAT YOUR SON ANY LONGER IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUESTION MY JUDGMENT. YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE, YOU ASKED FOR MY HELP, YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT. Me: Well, if you won't be reasonable about not allowing the SSRI's, then we'll leave your practice, but ph is on Valtrex, how do we wean him off? (all along we'd been told how dangerous it would be to go cold turkey. we'd seen some scary side effects and had wanted to stop the dosing on several occasions) Doctor: I'll help you reduce his dosage comfortably. As we left, and paid for the visit, I asked the nurse " isn't it true, the research, that if you go off SSRI's too soon, you end up with worse problems than before beginning? " She said yes. I then asked " isn't it true that there are no long term studies of the effects of SSRI's on children under the age of 5? " Again she said yes. " How many patients of Dr. Goldberg's have successfully gone off of all medications and been completely healed? " She said " one " . At that point I said we're out of here. We left, and yeah, when it came time to wean ph off, the nurse for the office, sent an email that said when the prescription ran out, just stop the medication. Armed with the knowledge we were dealing with Herpes 6, I then looked for other treatments and Doctors to address this virus. The virus does any number of things, some affect the vision. Here's the thing. These kids are so fragile with regards to nutrient absorption, that they are leaching nutrients from very rich sources in their bodies to make up the deficits. The eyes are very nutrient rich, as are the bones. We knew ph had osteopenia, so we knew his body was leaching nutrients from his bones, but if they were leaching them from his eyes, then could we not only stop the vision issues, but actually reverse them? According to the Optometrist we consulted, No. But the Ophthalmologist/Vision specialist we consulted, said, Maybe. Looking for a Doctor to address the viral issue, the vision issue and the gut issue, we found Dr. Megson. Under her care we've used Monolaurin. Alternating Monolaurin with Olive Leaf extract. We saw no difference in the viral load until we introduced (all during the same summer) enzymedica products. We began using Virastop, and to address the subsequent yeast issues that occur when you address a viral issue, we also incorporated Digest Gold and Candidase. We're up to 9 capsules 2 times a day of Virastop combined with either one 300mg. Monolaurin capsule or 10 drops of liquid Olive Leaf extract in an empty veg. based capsule. Plus one No Fenol, one vit. C caplet, 3 Digest Gold and 1 Candidase. That is his viral protocol. The bacterial and yeast are different. I really feel ph's vision stopped deteriorating when we began building up his ability to absorb nutrients from his diet. His osteopenia is no longer. I think ph's vision improved with the viral protocol as it does affect the vision, and the vision therapy and prescription lenses combined with the irlen color tint helped him progress. He outgrew/improved in his vision through several pairs of glasses, to the point where he now no longer requires glasses. His vision is 20/25. We'll continue what we're doing, and God willing it will improve even beyond that mark. But, the cone/rod issue with his eyes, the sideways glancing he did as a toddler, the tracking issues, which made reading a daily event fraught with tears, are no longer. For ph, we were at one point, prior to beginning of enzymes,down to pork, rice, water and salt and pepper to taste for every meal. These were the only things he didn't get red ears, eczema, and so many other symptoms/reactions from. Eventually the diet has expanded, with the help of enzymes. Child can now eat bananas and oranges without turning into Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hyde, a day I wasn't sure would ever come. In fact, he can even eat whole oats, perhaps he doesn't have Celiac's after all. His osteopenia and other issues were all present and accounted for in various tests prior to our biomed intervention. The regular kid fare/kid diet wasn't doing anything for him. He was a mess. So, it wasn't a stretch for me to do such a radical elimination diet the way I did so many years ago. I'd read many books, and knew if I did this right, if I built up his gut to absorb nutrients, eventually he'd be able to eat just about anything. Child eats like a horse, and it's a beautiful thing. He is a perfect weight and building muscle. His 16 means we're well on our way. He's not shown any nutritional deficiencies in years, blood tests verify this fact. But, 60 % of the immune system is in the gut, and I know that mucosal coating in his gut is a major player. I hope this helps. Good luck, and again Thank you for the Congratulations. We're walking on air. --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account! 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 What dose? Thanks - Sunny > > > > What works well for Herpes Virus? > > > Lysine > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hi , I'm very late reading this thread because I'm out of the country on holiday and only check e-mail occasionally. I did bring my son's medical records on pen drive, so was able to look up the dates of his three serum IgA tests. His numbers also doubled during biomed treatment – just like your son In 2005 (when he was a toddler) I begged for him to be tested for celiac, which came back negative. But it did uncover his " immune dysfunction " to which the doctor said there was no cure and he would just be a sick kid and a sick adult. His serum IgA at that point was 6. There was some mention about special blood for transfusion, but no other info. In 2006 he was diagnosed with ASD (which was just another on top of a bunch of other " unconnected " medical dx's) and I got a new pediatrician who was an up and coming biomed practitioner. She said his IgA numbers COULD be improved by supporting his immune system with diet and supplements. Getting my son healthy was my main goal, recovering autism wasn't even on the radar at the time. Six months later his IgA went up to 8 and a year after that it was 13. He's pretty much recovered from everything now and just has a few biochemical imbalances to straighten out. He's due for another blood draw when return to the USA, so I plan to toss in another IgA test at that time. When I get time, I'm going to read carefully through this whole thread and consider trying Virastop to boost his IgA levels a bit more. May I contact you to chat sometime in the future? Did you ever have any urinary neopterine tests performed? I'd be interested in comparing results. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I would love to hear from you, and really am quite interested in learning what your son's levels are now. Thank you for replying. Re: WE DID IT! Hi , I'm very late reading this thread because I'm out of the country on holiday and only check e-mail occasionally. I did bring my son's medical records on pen drive, so was able to look up the dates of his three serum IgA tests. His numbers also doubled during biomed treatment - just like your son In 2005 (when he was a toddler) I begged for him to be tested for celiac, which came back negative. But it did uncover his " immune dysfunction " to which the doctor said there was no cure and he would just be a sick kid and a sick adult. His serum IgA at that point was 6. There was some mention about special blood for transfusion, but no other info. In 2006 he was diagnosed with ASD (which was just another on top of a bunch of other " unconnected " medical dx's) and I got a new pediatrician who was an up and coming biomed practitioner. She said his IgA numbers COULD be improved by supporting his immune system with diet and supplements. Getting my son healthy was my main goal, recovering autism wasn't even on the radar at the time. Six months later his IgA went up to 8 and a year after that it was 13. He's pretty much recovered from everything now and just has a few biochemical imbalances to straighten out. He's due for another blood draw when return to the USA, so I plan to toss in another IgA test at that time. When I get time, I'm going to read carefully through this whole thread and consider trying Virastop to boost his IgA levels a bit more. May I contact you to chat sometime in the future? Did you ever have any urinary neopterine tests performed? I'd be interested in comparing results. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have just been catching up on some old e-mail posts. This post is absolutely remarkable. My 3-year-old neuro came out as having an IGA level of 6 (just from basic bloodwork, not serum). We refuse to go to an immunologost at this point b/c we know they will just rag on us for not vaccinating him (he got up to and uncluding 4 mos. He was 2 months old when his 30-month old brother lost it all overnight. I wish Baby Brother got none but he got 15 too many) IGA deficiency runs in my family. I just figured out that my son definitely has a phenol intolerance because has red cheeks when he eats stuff like red grapes, chocolate, and tomatoes. Dad has been very slow in accepting that the " easy " one has major issues. Child #2 is also a complete %#* & @ & % about taking supplements, unlike his brother w/autism. Any suggestions you have would be truly appreciated; we are giving probiotics and are in the process of scheduling an IGG antibodies test so we can put out the fires that are causing the red cheeks. I need to start omitting these foods or giving him No Phenol before this turns into something NASTY:add/adhd, asthma, etc. God forbid I am I am making homemade KETCHUP for " the big " one (he is on SCD) while the other one is slipping away before my very eyes. Sorry for the melodrama, but that is how it feels right now. Thanks for reading. MS > > No, this is one test that a Doctor needs to order. If you ask for a panel, they'll test the IgA, but you need the Serum IgA test to get the most accurate assessment. There is IgG, IgA, IgM and IgE.These tests all measure the functioning of the immune system. IgA is the first line of defense to the body, it is the coating that lines you from head to toe and when you encounter a foreign substance it is your body's first line of defense. The range for normal is 34-305. To have low IgA is common, 1 in 300 tested have low IgA. I write " tested " because the numbers could be higher, but not everyone is tested. To have IgA that is essentially non-detectable is rare and serious. Statistically speaking these kids often end up with numerous auto immune diseases at a very young age, and the diseases are quite aggressive. The problem is that the rest of the immune system kicks into high gear to compensate for this missing defense and after time, turns on itself. Well, with the mucosal paint missing in his gut, the now porous nature of his stomach allow all sorts of dangerous things to pass through the lining. Unlike a gut injury, which numerous Autistic children have, what ph had, this is a chronic, according to the Doctors, impossible to fix, issue. They said there was no known way to stimulate the IgA, at those undetectable levels to start producing IgA again at normal levels. One of my first early challenges to Doctors was to Dr. Steihm the Head of Immunology at UCLA, I asked " it's never been done? " and he responded " there are a few recorded cases, but there is no known cause for the immune system to turn off or back on, your son was probably born that way " . So, these past years I've tried all sorts of things, including expressing my colostrum and breastmilk after was born, to try and stimulate his IgA by giving him mine. You see, that is part of the problem. With such low levels, you run the risk of anaphylactic shock, in fact his medic alert bracelet says if he's in need of a blood transfusion he must have washed red blood cells. I gave him my colostrum and breastmilk after talking to Dr. Megson about the potential of it rebooting his immune system. She'd heard of a handful of kids having their IgA come back online, but agreed I ran the risk of ph going into shock. Although the reasoning I used was, I breastfed him as an infant, this isn't anything new, and if he was born this way, his body will already recognize and not reject my IgA. Still, a risk, and I slept with him for weeks and then had an extra baby monitor in his room and would check on him after each time I fed during the night. But, after 14 mo. of expressing my breastmilk, his IgA levels were at their lowest, 3. I was so upset. This was the test done the summer before last. So, when we had the test done this October, it was just a benchmark test. > WE DID IT! > > I apologize for the caps but I'm literally about to jump out of my skin > here. I'm so excited. I can't jump, knee injury, but if I could I would. We > did it. What we've been working on for 6 almost 7 years now. ph's IgA, > the oh so important serum IgA INCREASED! The head of immunology, 4 > specialists and dozens of other Doctors and Scientists said it couldn't be > done. We more than doubled it! For those of you new and not familiar, ph > my son, now age 9, was diagnosed Autistic moderate/severe depending on who > was doing the diagnosing at age 3. We knew well before that, that we had > issues, but it took a long time to get the ball rolling, and when it did > start to roll, it rolled in all sorts of directions. With the Autism > diagnosis, came many other diagnosis. We've been to specialists all over the > Country. One of our main issues has been ph's IgA deficiency. He > produced 7, then 5, then 3 on IgA serum tests. Basically it was > non-detectable. We did the whole medic alert bracelets, bottled water, even > let those idiots at UCLA give him all sorts of pneumococal vaccines, to the > degree he developed impaired polysaccharide responsiveness, meaning no > matter how many times they vaccinated him, he wouldn't carry the titers. He > was so incredibly ill and so incredibly fragile. But, what all the doctors > said was that he was " missing part of his immune system " " probably born that > way " " no way to reverse it " " statistically children end up with multiple > auto immune diseases at very early ages " " there's nothing you can do " > " isolate him " . My Mission in Life has been to reboot or boost his immune > system to the degree he can fight all these multiple viruses and bacteria he > has residing in his body that produce all these Autistic behaviors. Every > underlying issue we addressed we'd see one more Autistic behavior disappear. > Well, now I've PROOF! It can be Reversed. ph's IgA , Serum IgA is 16! > We've more than doubled it, if you look at how it dipped in the test prior > to this one, to a 3, we've actually increased by more than five times over. > I'm so Excited I can't STAND IT! Just want to burst. Would love to go out > and celebrate, but like everyone else, supplements, therapies and Doctors > have exhausted us financially. BUT OH SO WORTH IT! I'D DO IT AGAIN IN A > HEARTBEAT, and will continue to do this, even if it means giving up my > house, which is a very real possibility at the moment. We had these tests > done during the trip to Virginia in October. The results came early last > month, but honestly, I was too exhausted and not mentally up, to open the > envelopes. But, I had to open them to get some documents for ph's IEP > meeting this morning, during which we learned ph is right on target for > his grade level (he is mainstreamed with his peers) and will do the regular > Star testing in the Spring. Oh, and his eyes improved to the degree he only > needs to use color overlays, those expensive irlen lens with the > prescription, his eyes have finally improved to the degree he no longer > needs the glasses. Thank you Cod Liver Oil, decreasing viral load and vision > therapy. HHV6 levels have actually gone up, but I'm looking at this viral > thing in a whole new way. We're using large doses of Virastop and I mean > large and we've seen improvements across the board. And honestly, that is > the only major change we've introduced since the last IgA test and this > recent one. That's it, so what does it mean that the measurements show an > increase but the IgA is up too. I don't know exactly what all this means, > but I do know we are doing what the Doctors, and I mean heads of dept's at > University Hospitals said was impossible. , our 2 year old, has some > issues, but I'll compose a more comprehensive email later, for those that > are interested. It's exciting, we've been truly Blessed. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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