Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Mandy, I would have to say a sedated ABR administered correctly - is the best measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young children. I am so sorry. My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we could never get accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a year when she was diagnosed. If you have any questions or just need to vent, this is a great group of ladies. Hugs, Angie in KS Mom to Allie age 4 Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this fall!!! > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for infants? > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other things, and > it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want this to be a mistake. > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We have > tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any consistent > results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds were almost deafening > to me and he just smiled and looked around. This is his second ABR in 5 > months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty rapid rate, it seems to me. > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the thought of > adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full plate just makes me > want to raise the white flag and check myself into someplace quiet and > peaceful. > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot to my > behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of it! > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster at > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? The reason I ask is we have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 month intervals. This is because my older son's hearing loss developed after birth (he passed his newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew (my #2) to make sure we catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm currently in the midst of finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going back for his 3rd ABR next week cause he keeps waking up before they can finish the test (our Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just have to get him to sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use the booth. Am I being too optimistic? Thanks, Sherry Re: ABR accuracy? Mandy, I would have to say a sedated ABR administered correctly - is the best measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young children. I am so sorry. My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we could never get accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a year when she was diagnosed. If you have any questions or just need to vent, this is a great group of ladies. Hugs, Angie in KS Mom to Allie age 4 Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this fall!!! > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for infants? > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want this to be a mistake. > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds were > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. This is > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty rapid rate, it seems to me. > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check myself into > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot to > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of it! > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster at > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think it depends on the child. We still aren't very accurate at 2 1/2. But Ian is a really independent and busy kid. I know you can start teaching testing at home. Like cover your mouth and have him drop something into a cup when he hears a sound. If that makes sense. Good luck! Tawnya Re: ABR accuracy? Mandy, I would have to say a sedated ABR administered correctly - is the best measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young children. I am so sorry. My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we could never get accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a year when she was diagnosed. If you have any questions or just need to vent, this is a great group of ladies. Hugs, Angie in KS Mom to Allie age 4 Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this fall!!! > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for infants? > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want this to be a mistake. > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds were > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. This is > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty rapid rate, it seems to me. > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check myself into > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot to > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of it! > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster at > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Let me break this down in parts: At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? This really depends on the child. I have seen some very reliable booth tests given at 12 months. But that is with 2 audiologists and the mother in the booth. By the time they are 2 most kids can do conditioning - you hear the sound? okay drop your toy in the bucket. At this age. I'm currently in the midst of finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going back for his 3rd ABR next week cause he keeps waking up before they can finish the test (our Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just have to get him to sleep). This is so frustrating to me. It is not that long of a sedation, and the risk to the child is very minimal, It is very comparable to giving them night time cough medicine (off my soap box). If you have a history of hearing loss with another child I would really push to have some ABR results. So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use the booth. Am I being too optimistic? I Don't think you are being too optimistic but given the history of hearing loss in your family, Personally I would want the ABR results. I would want sedated ABR results - but that is just the almost Audiologist in me I hope this helps, Angie in KS Au.D candidate mom to Allie 4 yrs bilateral cochlear implants > > At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? The reason I ask is > we > have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 month intervals. This is > because my older son's hearing loss developed after birth (he passed his > newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew (my #2) to make sure we > catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm currently in the midst of > finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going back for his 3rd ABR > next week cause he keeps waking up before they can finish the test (our > Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just have to get him to > sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use the booth. Am I being > too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > > Re: ABR accuracy? > > Mandy, > > I would have to say a sedated ABR administered correctly - is the best > measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young children. > > I am so sorry. > > My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we could never get > accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a year when she was > diagnosed. > > If you have any questions or just need to vent, this is a great group of > ladies. > > Hugs, > Angie in KS > Mom to Allie age 4 > Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this fall!!! > > On 8/16/06, mandy@... mandy@...> > wrote: > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for > infants? > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want this > to > be a mistake. > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds were > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. This is > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty > rapid > rate, it seems to me. > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check myself into > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot to > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of it! > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster at > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 We have been doing booth tests for quite a while; I am sure we started before my daughter was one. Our audiologist would do just a little at a time because she knows the attention span of kids that small. She thought of it as being just as much getting her used to the booth as getting results. For a while, we were going nearly every week. That was when the audiologist was trying to make sure my daughter's loss was not progressing and we had been having lots of ear infection issues. So, if you want to do booth testing, it will take many more visits to get reliable results at a young age than an ABR. Our audiologist said there is a danger of trying to get results too quickly because you can start reading into everything the baby/toddler does after he or she has already quit playing the booth game. in Manassas, VA > At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? The reason I ask > is we > have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 month intervals. This > is > because my older son's hearing loss developed after birth (he passed > his > newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew (my #2) to make sure > we > catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm currently in the > midst of > finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going back for his 3rd > ABR > next week cause he keeps waking up before they can finish the test > (our > Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just have to get him to > sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use the booth. Am I > being > too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > Re: ABR accuracy? > > Mandy, > > I would have to say a sedated ABR administered correctly - is the best > measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young children. > > I am so sorry. > > My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we could never get > accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a year when she was > diagnosed. > > If you have any questions or just need to vent, this is a great group > of > ladies. > > Hugs, > Angie in KS > Mom to Allie age 4 > Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this fall!!! > > > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for > infants? > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want > this to > be a mistake. > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds > were > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. This > is > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty > rapid > rate, it seems to me. > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check myself > into > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot > to > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of > it! > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster > at > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 My son is almost 7 months old. He was diagnosed with a sedated ABR at 5months. We are going through duPont Children's in Delaware. What they told us is that after 3months, you have to sedate because it's too difficult to get a reliable test otherwise (as you know because it's difficult to keep the child asleep). We also checked with CHOP (in Philly) and they said the same thing. I would see if you could push for the sedated test. In fact, our ENT came and put tubes in Andy's ears immediately prior to the test to insure that there was nothing that could get in the way of testing. We had a nonsedated ABR prior to the sedated ones and the results were very different then the sedated one - mostly because of how unreliable it was since Andy woke up a few times. In my very limited experience, it seems as if the sedated test is the surest way to go. Andy is having a repeat sedated ABR in September (along with a CT scan). However, he did just do a booth test. I believe I am calling this the right thing - you all let me know if I'm not since I'm new to all this! He just had to turn when he heard a noise then a toy lit up and made noise? Anyway, the audiologist said he was hearing speech at 15 dbs! The reason I mention this is that I asked her how reliable it was at this age and she said it depended on the child but if the child has a good head turn response then it could be very reliable. She feels so good about Andy's ability to do them, that after the ABR in September, he will only do booth tests (unless a big concern arises like progressive loss). Hope this helps somewhat > > > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but are > > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there for > > infants? > > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for other > > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so want this > > to > > be a mistake. > > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares me. We > > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the sounds were > > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. This is > > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a pretty > > rapid > > rate, it seems to me. > > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so the > > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already full > > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check myself into > > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the boot to > > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm sure of it! > > > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much faster at > > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 My son is 8 months old and our Pediatric Audiologist told us she will only be doing booth test from now on as long as he is responding to them at an acceptable level. Donovan's last test was at 6 months and he sat in his dad's lap while our parent infant advisor distracted him with a quiet toy. Our audiologist then pumped sound into the booth and when Donovan turned to look the box with the characters lit up. Our audi said Donovan was hearing at 15dbs with his hearing aids in according to the booth test -- she also told us the results of a booth test in a 6 month old was dependent on the child but in Donovan's case when he did respond to sound it was reliable (I guess that means if a kid doesn't respond then that doesn't necessary mean they are not hearing). I am not sure if your booth test was unsuccessful or if you have not had one, but as far as the sedated vs unsedated goes -- if at a future booth test Donovan were to not respond as well, I would request a sedated ABR to accurately identify any progression. Emylie Mother to Kaiden, started first grade this week!, and Donovan, 8 month Moderate HL commando crawler. > > > > > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a resounding yes, but > are > > > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing tests out there > for > > > infants? > > > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having surgery for > other > > > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both ears. I so > want this > > > to > > > be a mistake. > > > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and it scares > me. We > > > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but couldn't get any > > > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at times the > sounds were > > > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and looked around. > This is > > > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is progressing at a > pretty > > > rapid > > > rate, it seems to me. > > > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of 5 kids, so > the > > > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to our already > full > > > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag and check > myself into > > > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids will put the > boot to > > > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better outlook, I'm > sure of it! > > > > > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands are much > faster at > > > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I would get the ABR. What you have to remember is that the ABR alone, the OAE's alone, etc are not a true indicator of any loss. You need a battery of testing to be sure. With things like auditory neuropathy kids pass the newborn screens done with OAE's but may actually have absent ABR's. I would also ask for middle ear muscle reflex testing as well just to be sure. My son was not tested at birth but had positive OAE's which seemed to indicate he could hear and i was the NUTSO mom and nothing on his ABR. He was at about 55-60dB in the booth. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 My son is now 8 months old, and last month he had his first booth test at the location where he had his ABR. He goes to a school that has already given him 2 booth test, but I think those were more for getting familiar with them. Marni --- Sherry Freitas sfreitasi@...> wrote: > At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? > The reason I ask is we > have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 > month intervals. This is > because my older son's hearing loss developed after > birth (he passed his > newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew > (my #2) to make sure we > catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm > currently in the midst of > finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going > back for his 3rd ABR > next week cause he keeps waking up before they can > finish the test (our > Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just > have to get him to > sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use > the booth. Am I being > too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > Re: ABR accuracy? > > Mandy, > > I would have to say a sedated ABR administered > correctly - is the best > measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young > children. > > I am so sorry. > > My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we > could never get > accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a > year when she was > diagnosed. > > If you have any questions or just need to vent, this > is a great group of > ladies. > > Hugs, > Angie in KS > Mom to Allie age 4 > Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this > fall!!! > > On 8/16/06, mandy@... mandy@...> > wrote: > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a > resounding yes, but are > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing > tests out there for infants? > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having > surgery for other > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both > ears. I so want this to > be a mistake. > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and > it scares me. We > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but > couldn't get any > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at > times the sounds were > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and > looked around. This is > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is > progressing at a pretty rapid > rate, it seems to me. > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of > 5 kids, so the > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to > our already full > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag > and check myself into > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids > will put the boot to > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better > outlook, I'm sure of it! > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands > are much faster at > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them > in. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 My son is now 8 months old, and last month he had his first booth test at the location where he had his ABR. He goes to a school that has already given him 2 booth test, but I think those were more for getting familiar with them. Marni --- Sherry Freitas sfreitasi@...> wrote: > At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? > The reason I ask is we > have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 > month intervals. This is > because my older son's hearing loss developed after > birth (he passed his > newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew > (my #2) to make sure we > catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm > currently in the midst of > finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going > back for his 3rd ABR > next week cause he keeps waking up before they can > finish the test (our > Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just > have to get him to > sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use > the booth. Am I being > too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > Re: ABR accuracy? > > Mandy, > > I would have to say a sedated ABR administered > correctly - is the best > measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young > children. > > I am so sorry. > > My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we > could never get > accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a > year when she was > diagnosed. > > If you have any questions or just need to vent, this > is a great group of > ladies. > > Hugs, > Angie in KS > Mom to Allie age 4 > Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this > fall!!! > > On 8/16/06, mandy@... mandy@...> > wrote: > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a > resounding yes, but are > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing > tests out there for infants? > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having > surgery for other > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both > ears. I so want this to > be a mistake. > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and > it scares me. We > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but > couldn't get any > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at > times the sounds were > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and > looked around. This is > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is > progressing at a pretty rapid > rate, it seems to me. > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of > 5 kids, so the > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to > our already full > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag > and check myself into > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids > will put the boot to > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better > outlook, I'm sure of it! > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands > are much faster at > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them > in. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 My son is now 8 months old, and last month he had his first booth test at the location where he had his ABR. He goes to a school that has already given him 2 booth test, but I think those were more for getting familiar with them. Marni --- Sherry Freitas sfreitasi@...> wrote: > At what age do the booth tests become more reliable? > The reason I ask is we > have been told we need to check my 2nd son at 6 > month intervals. This is > because my older son's hearing loss developed after > birth (he passed his > newborn screen). So we are closely watching Drew > (my #2) to make sure we > catch it if Drew's hearing starts to go too. I'm > currently in the midst of > finishing up Drew's 6-month-old tests - we are going > back for his 3rd ABR > next week cause he keeps waking up before they can > finish the test (our > Children's Hosp doesn't sedate at this age, I just > have to get him to > sleep). So I was hoping that at age 1 we could use > the booth. Am I being > too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > Re: ABR accuracy? > > Mandy, > > I would have to say a sedated ABR administered > correctly - is the best > measurable way to determine a hearing loss in young > children. > > I am so sorry. > > My own daughter was diagnosed with a sedated ABR, we > could never get > accurate booth tests on her - she was less than a > year when she was > diagnosed. > > If you have any questions or just need to vent, this > is a great group of > ladies. > > Hugs, > Angie in KS > Mom to Allie age 4 > Bilateral N24 12mo, 32mo - mainstream k 4 class this > fall!!! > > On 8/16/06, mandy@... mandy@...> > wrote: > > > > I'm very afraid that the answer will be a > resounding yes, but are > > sedated ABR's about the most accurate hearing > tests out there for infants? > > My 11-month-old had one yesterday while having > surgery for other > > things, and it showed severe hearing loss in both > ears. I so want this to > be a mistake. > > They are now talking about cochlear implants, and > it scares me. We > > have tried booth tests a couple of times, but > couldn't get any > > consistent results. He couldn't localize, and at > times the sounds were > > almost deafening to me and he just smiled and > looked around. This is > > his second ABR in 5 months, and the loss is > progressing at a pretty rapid > rate, it seems to me. > > Sam has a trach and g-tube and is the youngest of > 5 kids, so the > > thought of adding more equipment and have-to's to > our already full > > plate just makes me want to raise the white flag > and check myself into > > someplace quiet and peaceful. > > > > I know I sound whiney; I'll get over it. My kids > will put the boot to > > my behind tomorrow and I'll have a much better > outlook, I'm sure of it! > > > > Mandy, mom to Sam, precious little guy whose hands > are much faster at > > taking hearing aids out than I am at putting them > in. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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