Re: QUESTION: Ketones too high at night - Bill

[Guest guest]

,

That's great news. Keep careful records of calories, ratio, weight etc.

so that you can make needed changes. 150 calories is a lot. You may need

to increase somewhat as her weight drops. And, of course, you have a

good vitamin and mineral supplement, right?

Bill

Falk wrote:

> Maybe we are okay... She started chubby, and I truly thought she would drop

some weight. The gain was a surprise! And, a week into lower calories, and now

a day into a lower ratio, she is like she was a the beginning of the diet.

Happy and perky. Must just feel better to her little body.

>

> Thanks for the help. I am such a novice. , 's mum

[Guest guest]

,

That's great news. Keep careful records of calories, ratio, weight etc.

so that you can make needed changes. 150 calories is a lot. You may need

to increase somewhat as her weight drops. And, of course, you have a

good vitamin and mineral supplement, right?

Bill

Falk wrote:

> Maybe we are okay... She started chubby, and I truly thought she would drop

some weight. The gain was a surprise! And, a week into lower calories, and now

a day into a lower ratio, she is like she was a the beginning of the diet.

Happy and perky. Must just feel better to her little body.

>

> Thanks for the help. I am such a novice. , 's mum

[Guest guest]

,

That's great news. Keep careful records of calories, ratio, weight etc.

so that you can make needed changes. 150 calories is a lot. You may need

to increase somewhat as her weight drops. And, of course, you have a

good vitamin and mineral supplement, right?

Bill

Falk wrote:

> Maybe we are okay... She started chubby, and I truly thought she would drop

some weight. The gain was a surprise! And, a week into lower calories, and now

a day into a lower ratio, she is like she was a the beginning of the diet.

Happy and perky. Must just feel better to her little body.

>

> Thanks for the help. I am such a novice. , 's mum

[Guest guest]

Now you will be changing calories by 25 or 50 to get it spot on. We have

had good luck with Wholelife supplements from California. It is made

especially for children on the ketogenic diet. It is a liquid form. Big

drinks aren't good on the diet. Better to spread it out more. Hope

things continue to improve.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> A week, actually 8 days, into the calorie drop and she only dropped .2 of a

pound. That little may have been a difference in clothing??? No, she does not

have good supplements from what I am gleaning from all the posts. She is on a

children's vitamin, Bugs Bunny Complete and a calcium supplement. When I went

to get a magnesium supplement they were all far too big for a little one, so I

must search elsewhere, as were the biotin and selenium. I had no idea it would

be a problem, and went yesterday to get them. Have not yet exhausted local

sources for lower dose capsules, and may end up ordering online, I guess.

>

> I keep a pretty complete daily log of food, ratio, calories, ketones and

specific gravity, bowel movements and fluids, as well as seizure activity.

>

> Her ketones are almost always high now, except after a big drink. I am

wondering if that needs to be worked down a bit. When we first began, I thought

big ketones were the goal all the time, now I am findng that some children do

better with midrange.

>

> Often I quote your " it is more art than science " statement. It is sure making

me be a keen observer of her behavior.

>

> Thanks. You will " hear " me asking for help with supplements if I cannot find

what I need in town. I definitely need to find magnesium and she needs to go on

a good adult vitamin.

[Guest guest]

Now you will be changing calories by 25 or 50 to get it spot on. We have

had good luck with Wholelife supplements from California. It is made

especially for children on the ketogenic diet. It is a liquid form. Big

drinks aren't good on the diet. Better to spread it out more. Hope

things continue to improve.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> A week, actually 8 days, into the calorie drop and she only dropped .2 of a

pound. That little may have been a difference in clothing??? No, she does not

have good supplements from what I am gleaning from all the posts. She is on a

children's vitamin, Bugs Bunny Complete and a calcium supplement. When I went

to get a magnesium supplement they were all far too big for a little one, so I

must search elsewhere, as were the biotin and selenium. I had no idea it would

be a problem, and went yesterday to get them. Have not yet exhausted local

sources for lower dose capsules, and may end up ordering online, I guess.

>

> I keep a pretty complete daily log of food, ratio, calories, ketones and

specific gravity, bowel movements and fluids, as well as seizure activity.

>

> Her ketones are almost always high now, except after a big drink. I am

wondering if that needs to be worked down a bit. When we first began, I thought

big ketones were the goal all the time, now I am findng that some children do

better with midrange.

>

> Often I quote your " it is more art than science " statement. It is sure making

me be a keen observer of her behavior.

>

> Thanks. You will " hear " me asking for help with supplements if I cannot find

what I need in town. I definitely need to find magnesium and she needs to go on

a good adult vitamin.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will check out Wholelife. Did some more looking in our area

yesterday, all all the supplements had other things added to them... like yeast

in the selenium, etc. Yes, now drops need to be gradual... then watching for

height increases that may indicate the time for calorie increases. I can see

this is not quite as easy as I had initially thought it to be. However, seizure

control is such a blessing.

Many thanks. , 's mum

Bill Barber torontobarber@...> wrote:

Now you will be changing calories by 25 or 50 to get it spot on. We have

had good luck with Wholelife supplements from California. It is made

especially for children on the ketogenic diet. It is a liquid form. Big

drinks aren't good on the diet. Better to spread it out more. Hope

things continue to improve.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> A week, actually 8 days, into the calorie drop and she only dropped .2 of a

pound. That little may have been a difference in clothing??? No, she does not

have good supplements from what I am gleaning from all the posts. She is on a

children's vitamin, Bugs Bunny Complete and a calcium supplement. When I went

to get a magnesium supplement they were all far too big for a little one, so I

must search elsewhere, as were the biotin and selenium. I had no idea it would

be a problem, and went yesterday to get them. Have not yet exhausted local

sources for lower dose capsules, and may end up ordering online, I guess.

>

> I keep a pretty complete daily log of food, ratio, calories, ketones and

specific gravity, bowel movements and fluids, as well as seizure activity.

>

> Her ketones are almost always high now, except after a big drink. I am

wondering if that needs to be worked down a bit. When we first began, I thought

big ketones were the goal all the time, now I am findng that some children do

better with midrange.

>

> Often I quote your " it is more art than science " statement. It is sure making

me be a keen observer of her behavior.

>

> Thanks. You will " hear " me asking for help with supplements if I cannot find

what I need in town. I definitely need to find magnesium and she needs to go on

a good adult vitamin.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will check out Wholelife. Did some more looking in our area

yesterday, all all the supplements had other things added to them... like yeast

in the selenium, etc. Yes, now drops need to be gradual... then watching for

height increases that may indicate the time for calorie increases. I can see

this is not quite as easy as I had initially thought it to be. However, seizure

control is such a blessing.

Many thanks. , 's mum

Bill Barber torontobarber@...> wrote:

Now you will be changing calories by 25 or 50 to get it spot on. We have

had good luck with Wholelife supplements from California. It is made

especially for children on the ketogenic diet. It is a liquid form. Big

drinks aren't good on the diet. Better to spread it out more. Hope

things continue to improve.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> A week, actually 8 days, into the calorie drop and she only dropped .2 of a

pound. That little may have been a difference in clothing??? No, she does not

have good supplements from what I am gleaning from all the posts. She is on a

children's vitamin, Bugs Bunny Complete and a calcium supplement. When I went

to get a magnesium supplement they were all far too big for a little one, so I

must search elsewhere, as were the biotin and selenium. I had no idea it would

be a problem, and went yesterday to get them. Have not yet exhausted local

sources for lower dose capsules, and may end up ordering online, I guess.

>

> I keep a pretty complete daily log of food, ratio, calories, ketones and

specific gravity, bowel movements and fluids, as well as seizure activity.

>

> Her ketones are almost always high now, except after a big drink. I am

wondering if that needs to be worked down a bit. When we first began, I thought

big ketones were the goal all the time, now I am findng that some children do

better with midrange.

>

> Often I quote your " it is more art than science " statement. It is sure making

me be a keen observer of her behavior.

>

> Thanks. You will " hear " me asking for help with supplements if I cannot find

what I need in town. I definitely need to find magnesium and she needs to go on

a good adult vitamin.

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! "

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto

team!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will check out Wholelife. Did some more looking in our area

yesterday, all all the supplements had other things added to them... like yeast

in the selenium, etc. Yes, now drops need to be gradual... then watching for

height increases that may indicate the time for calorie increases. I can see

this is not quite as easy as I had initially thought it to be. However, seizure

control is such a blessing.

Many thanks. , 's mum

Bill Barber torontobarber@...> wrote:

Now you will be changing calories by 25 or 50 to get it spot on. We have

had good luck with Wholelife supplements from California. It is made

especially for children on the ketogenic diet. It is a liquid form. Big

drinks aren't good on the diet. Better to spread it out more. Hope

things continue to improve.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> A week, actually 8 days, into the calorie drop and she only dropped .2 of a

pound. That little may have been a difference in clothing??? No, she does not

have good supplements from what I am gleaning from all the posts. She is on a

children's vitamin, Bugs Bunny Complete and a calcium supplement. When I went

to get a magnesium supplement they were all far too big for a little one, so I

must search elsewhere, as were the biotin and selenium. I had no idea it would

be a problem, and went yesterday to get them. Have not yet exhausted local

sources for lower dose capsules, and may end up ordering online, I guess.

>

> I keep a pretty complete daily log of food, ratio, calories, ketones and

specific gravity, bowel movements and fluids, as well as seizure activity.

>

> Her ketones are almost always high now, except after a big drink. I am

wondering if that needs to be worked down a bit. When we first began, I thought

big ketones were the goal all the time, now I am findng that some children do

better with midrange.

>

> Often I quote your " it is more art than science " statement. It is sure making

me be a keen observer of her behavior.

>

> Thanks. You will " hear " me asking for help with supplements if I cannot find

what I need in town. I definitely need to find magnesium and she needs to go on

a good adult vitamin.

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! "

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto

team!

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