Re: Wheat allergy and pennicilin

[Guest guest]

Lots of people have "cillin" allergies, so whether gf or not it would still happen. But I'm surprised it happened with the erytho bc that's supposed to be pretty safe for most people. Not sure of it's GF status, though. Sorry!

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of aPRSSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:46 AMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Wheat allergy and pennicilin

I hope I spelled that right! Here's a side question that all thediscussions about the paper towels started me thinking about. When myeldest, who is gluten intolerant and has a wheat allergy, was five, hehad a reaction to pennicilin. All over body rash/hives. When he was six,new doctor, inconclusive notation on chart (was it really from thepennicilin?) he was given pennicilin again. Again, he had a full bodyrash/hives. It was faster and stronger than the prior one, but stilljust hives, but he was marked as allergic.Now I'm wondering if he was reacting just to whatever it is he'sallergic to in the wheat and not the pennicilin? He wasn't on a gf dietthen, he ate bread all the time. But maybe the medicine concentrateswhatever it is? I'm wondering this because he is also allergic toerythromycin (very strong reaction, had to rush him to the hospital forthat one.) I think if it were a life or death situation, it would benice to know he could get the pennicilin and just put up with hives.Anyone hear of this kind of thing?

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't let him have penicillin again. The next

reaction could be fatal -- or he might not react at

all. But do you really want to find out? There are

other types of antibiotics.

richard

--- aPRS paulaprs@...> wrote:

>

> I hope I spelled that right! Here's a side question

> that all the

> discussions about the paper towels started me

> thinking about. When my

> eldest, who is gluten intolerant and has a wheat

> allergy, was five, he

> had a reaction to pennicilin. All over body

> rash/hives. When he was six,

> new doctor, inconclusive notation on chart (was it

> really from the

> pennicilin?) he was given pennicilin again. Again,

> he had a full body

> rash/hives. It was faster and stronger than the

> prior one, but still

> just hives, but he was marked as allergic.

>

> Now I'm wondering if he was reacting just to

> whatever it is he's

> allergic to in the wheat and not the pennicilin? He

> wasn't on a gf diet

> then, he ate bread all the time. But maybe the

> medicine concentrates

> whatever it is? I'm wondering this because he is

> also allergic to

> erythromycin (very strong reaction, had to rush him

> to the hospital for

> that one.) I think if it were a life or death

> situation, it would be

> nice to know he could get the pennicilin and just

> put up with hives.

> Anyone hear of this kind of thing?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

No, I don't want to find out. *sigh* Oh, well. (I was just hoping for a

" Oh, haven't you heard?! " kind of thing, I guess. lol) Last time he had

a major infection (inner ear) it took nearly two months on the alternate

antibiotics to clear it. He was getting ill from the prolonged exposure.

(Fortunately, he's really healthy generally.)

>

> >

> > I hope I spelled that right! Here's a side question

> > that all the

> > discussions about the paper towels started me

> > thinking about. When my

> > eldest, who is gluten intolerant and has a wheat

> > allergy, was five, he

> > had a reaction to pennicilin. All over body

> > rash/hives. When he was six,

> > new doctor, inconclusive notation on chart (was it

> > really from the

> > pennicilin?) he was given pennicilin again. Again,

> > he had a full body

> > rash/hives. It was faster and stronger than the

> > prior one, but still

> > just hives, but he was marked as allergic.

> >

> > Now I'm wondering if he was reacting just to

> > whatever it is he's

> > allergic to in the wheat and not the pennicilin? He

> > wasn't on a gf diet

> > then, he ate bread all the time. But maybe the

> > medicine concentrates

> > whatever it is? I'm wondering this because he is

> > also allergic to

> > erythromycin (very strong reaction, had to rush him

> > to the hospital for

> > that one.) I think if it were a life or death

> > situation, it would be

> > nice to know he could get the pennicilin and just

> > put up with hives.

> > Anyone hear of this kind of thing?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I've wondered this for a while now. I had the same reaction to penicillin years ago. They said I was allergic to the penicillin and my sister's kids are just like me. I'm wondering if there is a link between CD and penicillin... is it still made from wheat?

Personal story... Last time I went to my dentist I was so worried about the CD... that when it came time for medication... that was the only allergy I listed. Thank goodness my file noted penicillin! I had forgotten about the penicillin because I think about CD every second of the day... Of course the drug store also has my allergies in their computer... -- Carol M HeppnerUpdated website: www.carolheppner.comNew Paper Arts Book: INKING by Carol Heppner (Sterling/Chapelle) 2006

[Guest guest]

My DD had a reaction as a toddler to amoxicillan. At the time (12

yrs ago) they said they weren't sure if kids react to the 'cillan or

something else in the liquid form she had taken (like the dyes

etc). I too would like her to be able to take pennicilin, but

certainly don't want to risk it. Wish there was a way to

definitively test for that allergy...

Sue in Denver

>

>

> I hope I spelled that right! Here's a side question that all the

> discussions about the paper towels started me thinking about. When

my

> eldest, who is gluten intolerant and has a wheat allergy, was

five, he

> had a reaction to pennicilin. All over body rash/hives. When he

was six,

> new doctor, inconclusive notation on chart (was it really from the

> pennicilin?) he was given pennicilin again. Again, he had a full

body

> rash/hives. It was faster and stronger than the prior one, but

still

> just hives, but he was marked as allergic.

>

> Now I'm wondering if he was reacting just to whatever it is he's

> allergic to in the wheat and not the pennicilin? He wasn't on a gf

diet

> then, he ate bread all the time. But maybe the medicine

concentrates

> whatever it is? I'm wondering this because he is also allergic to

> erythromycin (very strong reaction, had to rush him to the

hospital for

> that one.) I think if it were a life or death situation, it would

be

> nice to know he could get the pennicilin and just put up with

hives.

> Anyone hear of this kind of thing?

>

[Guest guest]

I had a reaction to penicillin (just hives) when I was a young child

and my parents were told to never give it to me again. When I was 21

an ER doc gave me some despite the red sticker on my file.

I went into anaphylactic shock and it took days for all the swelling

to finally come down. My tongue swelled so badly that it felt like

it had filled my mouth.

I have since spoken to my allergist and he said that once you have

had a reaction to penicillin you probably will always have one to it

and the chances are that your reaction will get worse with each

exposure. He tested me for a mould allergy and I tested positive. He

says that often goes hand in hand with penicillin allergies.

This was my long way of saying that I wouldn't take the chance if I

were you. you should also avoid ceflasporins as people who react to

penicillin often react to them as well. From bitter experience I can

tell you that I do.

Shez

[Guest guest]

I would second 's remarks. If a person has a reaction, then a second of the type you describe (rash, hives) it is almost always going to be even worse the next time, perhaps anaphylaxis. Don't take the chance. Make sure all of his doctors know about the penicillin allergy.

Vicki

Re: Wheat allergy and pennicilin

I wouldn't let him have penicillin again. The next

reaction could be fatal -- or he might not react at

all. But do you really want to find out? There are

other types of antibiotics.

richard

--- aPRS <paulaprs (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> I hope I spelled that right! Here's a side question

> that all the

> discussions about the paper towels started me

> thinking about. When my

> eldest, who is gluten intolerant and has a wheat

> allergy, was five, he

> had a reaction to pennicilin. All over body

> rash/hives. When he was six,

> new doctor, inconclusive notation on chart (was it

> really from the

> pennicilin?) he was given pennicilin again. Again,

> he had a full body

> rash/hives. It was faster and stronger than the

> prior one, but still

> just hives, but he was marked as allergic.

>

> Now I'm wondering if he was reacting just to

> whatever it is he's

> allergic to in the wheat and not the pennicilin? He

> wasn't on a gf diet

> then, he ate bread all the time. But maybe the

> medicine concentrates

> whatever it is? I'm wondering this because he is

> also allergic to

> erythromycin (very strong reaction, had to rush him

> to the hospital for

> that one.) I think if it were a life or death

> situation, it would be

> nice to know he could get the pennicilin and just

> put up with hives.

> Anyone hear of this kind of thing?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Very interesting! My son also has a mold allergy.

And to everyone, don't worry about my ever letting him " try " penicillin

again. I'm manic about it being on his charts and everyone knowing. I

was just wondering if there'd been something new out there about it with

all the new studies being done on gluten. Thank you all for answering,

too!

>

> He tested me for a mould allergy and I tested positive. He

> says that often goes hand in hand with penicillin allergies.

>

[Guest guest]

I also had an allergic reaction to pennicilin as a child... I have

stayed away from it ever since!

[Guest guest]

I also had an allergic reaction to pennicilin as a child... I have

stayed away from it ever since!

[Guest guest]

I also had an allergic reaction to pennicilin as a child... I have

stayed away from it ever since!

[Guest guest]

I have the same reactions to Penicillin. I would NOT allow someone to talk me

into giving

a child that med if they have reacted to it more than once before. This had

happened to

me, my Mom allowed someone to talk her into giving me penicillin claiming that

it had

been several years and that I had most likely out grown the allergy. I reacted

strongly -

again. My Mom kicked herself for a very long time from that one. I will learn

from her

mistake.

As for where penicillin comes from...... penicillin is from a mold -

penicillium. A great

many years ago, they would culture it ON bread, but even that has not been done

in a long

long time. It is cultured in labs where they can mass produce it and control all

of the

conditions.

Cheryl in MN

[Guest guest]

I have the same reactions to Penicillin. I would NOT allow someone to talk me

into giving

a child that med if they have reacted to it more than once before. This had

happened to

me, my Mom allowed someone to talk her into giving me penicillin claiming that

it had

been several years and that I had most likely out grown the allergy. I reacted

strongly -

again. My Mom kicked herself for a very long time from that one. I will learn

from her

mistake.

As for where penicillin comes from...... penicillin is from a mold -

penicillium. A great

many years ago, they would culture it ON bread, but even that has not been done

in a long

long time. It is cultured in labs where they can mass produce it and control all

of the

conditions.

Cheryl in MN

[Guest guest]

A quick reminder to all of those with penicillin allergies........ make sure you

wear a

medic allert bracelet or necklace. It should be ON YOUR BODY. I worked for 10

years as an

ER secretary and I was the person who had to try and hunt down those medical

records. If

you are in a serious accident, and your records are at your doctor's office (and

the

clinic is closed) it is by all counts useless. Heck, even when clinics are open,

I have

seen it take 2 hours.

Purses and wallets also can get separated from you, so don't rely on wallet

cards alone -

they are great to refer to on your medic allert, but only as a secondary means.

Put the most important info on there first. Allergies to medicines

(penicillin/sulfa/guten is how I have mine), major medical problems (asthma,

heart

conditions, hypertension, diabetes etc.). Name is good, in case you can't speak

for

yourself (I remember one patient where we spent 2 hours just trying to find out

who he

was!) Bee sting allergies are good to have on there - it could give them a clue

as to

what is going on (they might not see a sting or bit area). And " See Wallet Card "

is very

good too - that way they know to look for it for more detailed info. Keep these

up to

date! Especially contact information. Seconds truely can be critical.

Remember too that just like in the clinic, one of the first medicines they go to

in

emergencies would be penicillin. Any kind of major trauma will get antibiotice

going

right away to decrease the chance of infection. Even more so if there is a

change you

need to go to surgery right away.

Same goes for Living Wills. If you have one, make sure that you also file one

with the

hospital you would likely go to. If the ER needs it, and your clinic is

closed-they can't

access it, the ER is obligated by law to act as if there is not one. Whereas, if

there is

a copy at the hospital, they should be able to access it within minutes.

That is my soapbox for the day. I'll get down and let someone else use

it........ )

Cheryl in MN

[Guest guest]

A quick reminder to all of those with penicillin allergies........ make sure you

wear a

medic allert bracelet or necklace. It should be ON YOUR BODY. I worked for 10

years as an

ER secretary and I was the person who had to try and hunt down those medical

records. If

you are in a serious accident, and your records are at your doctor's office (and

the

clinic is closed) it is by all counts useless. Heck, even when clinics are open,

I have

seen it take 2 hours.

Purses and wallets also can get separated from you, so don't rely on wallet

cards alone -

they are great to refer to on your medic allert, but only as a secondary means.

Put the most important info on there first. Allergies to medicines

(penicillin/sulfa/guten is how I have mine), major medical problems (asthma,

heart

conditions, hypertension, diabetes etc.). Name is good, in case you can't speak

for

yourself (I remember one patient where we spent 2 hours just trying to find out

who he

was!) Bee sting allergies are good to have on there - it could give them a clue

as to

what is going on (they might not see a sting or bit area). And " See Wallet Card "

is very

good too - that way they know to look for it for more detailed info. Keep these

up to

date! Especially contact information. Seconds truely can be critical.

Remember too that just like in the clinic, one of the first medicines they go to

in

emergencies would be penicillin. Any kind of major trauma will get antibiotice

going

right away to decrease the chance of infection. Even more so if there is a

change you

need to go to surgery right away.

Same goes for Living Wills. If you have one, make sure that you also file one

with the

hospital you would likely go to. If the ER needs it, and your clinic is

closed-they can't

access it, the ER is obligated by law to act as if there is not one. Whereas, if

there is

a copy at the hospital, they should be able to access it within minutes.

That is my soapbox for the day. I'll get down and let someone else use

it........ )

Cheryl in MN

[Guest guest]

A quick reminder to all of those with penicillin allergies........ make sure you

wear a

medic allert bracelet or necklace. It should be ON YOUR BODY. I worked for 10

years as an

ER secretary and I was the person who had to try and hunt down those medical

records. If

you are in a serious accident, and your records are at your doctor's office (and

the

clinic is closed) it is by all counts useless. Heck, even when clinics are open,

I have

seen it take 2 hours.

Purses and wallets also can get separated from you, so don't rely on wallet

cards alone -

they are great to refer to on your medic allert, but only as a secondary means.

Put the most important info on there first. Allergies to medicines

(penicillin/sulfa/guten is how I have mine), major medical problems (asthma,

heart

conditions, hypertension, diabetes etc.). Name is good, in case you can't speak

for

yourself (I remember one patient where we spent 2 hours just trying to find out

who he

was!) Bee sting allergies are good to have on there - it could give them a clue

as to

what is going on (they might not see a sting or bit area). And " See Wallet Card "

is very

good too - that way they know to look for it for more detailed info. Keep these

up to

date! Especially contact information. Seconds truely can be critical.

Remember too that just like in the clinic, one of the first medicines they go to

in

emergencies would be penicillin. Any kind of major trauma will get antibiotice

going

right away to decrease the chance of infection. Even more so if there is a

change you

need to go to surgery right away.

Same goes for Living Wills. If you have one, make sure that you also file one

with the

hospital you would likely go to. If the ER needs it, and your clinic is

closed-they can't

access it, the ER is obligated by law to act as if there is not one. Whereas, if

there is

a copy at the hospital, they should be able to access it within minutes.

That is my soapbox for the day. I'll get down and let someone else use

it........ )

Cheryl in MN

[Guest guest]

Shez,

I am also allergic to penicillin AND mold, among other things (cheddar cheese is an intolerance, I think.)

I surely would not take a chance on have penicillin again either. (I had it as a 5 yo and got hives, twice.) I am also allergic to sulfa/ur drugs. I had a somewhat anaphylactic reaction as a child and again as an adult. (idiot doctor prescribed it, even though I told I was allergic to both..Bactrim.)

There are several other drugs I hve had trouble with in the past, as I was on them soooooo often! (more as an adult than as a child!) I believe it was due to my bodies inability to process/deal with gluten. Since I have been off gluten, I have only had ONE infection (sinus) and I managed to kill that with ONE course of a milder drug...and that was just 2 months after going GF...since then? I almost had one, but used Quercitin....it worked. I have used it several times now, to stave off whatever might fester. I do whatever I can to avoid antibiotic.

He tested me for a mould allergy and I tested positive. He says that often goes hand in hand with penicillin allergies.This was my long way of saying that I wouldn't take the chance if I were you. you should also avoid ceflasporins as people who react to penicillin often react to them as well. From bitter experience I can tell you that I do.

"We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they all exist very nicely in the same box." ~unknown~

[Guest guest]

My son had a bad reaction to Penicillin even though he had taken it

in the past with no reaction. His doctor told me that once you start

reacting it will be worse each time eventually becomming anaphalatic

(?sorry for the spelling). They put it in his chart and told me to

make sure he never takes it again.

>

> I have the same reactions to Penicillin. I would NOT allow someone

to talk me into giving

> a child that med if they have reacted to it more than once before.

This had happened to

> me, my Mom allowed someone to talk her into giving me penicillin

claiming that it had

> been several years and that I had most likely out grown the

allergy. I reacted strongly -

> again. My Mom kicked herself for a very long time from that one. I

will learn from her

> mistake.

>

> As for where penicillin comes from...... penicillin is from a mold -

penicillium. A great

> many years ago, they would culture it ON bread, but even that has

not been done in a long

> long time. It is cultured in labs where they can mass produce it

and control all of the

> conditions.

>

> Cheryl in MN

>