Re: New Graphic Site ... empty emails

[Guest guest]

I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

(mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

_BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the reply

lines.

Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have not

jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three separate

programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless at

the moment, my machine says it's clean.

Thanks -- Jill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/13/2006 12:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

babydewe2@... writes:

I did notice that most of the ones that I got with the title of " New

Graphic " came as a two pack. That is to say that I got two emails, same title,

same

sender.

Debbie

Hmmm, not for me. They came one at a time, a few hours or days apart. There

were repeated ones from the same person, but we periodically get empty emails

from people on this list, so I thought nothing of it.

And as far as I know, if I don't download something, click on something or

open an email with an image, I can't get anything bad. But who knows, perhaps

there is a new animal out there. Still, Ewido, SpyDoctor and Norton all say

my machine is clean -- and all of those are up-to-date on their

signatures.(shrug)

Guess I'll just remain confused for now. (grin)

Jill

[Guest guest]

Gee Jill,

I'd love to be able to tell you, but I never opened any of them. I realize

that, in most cases, you need to download the attachment to infect a computer.

I didn't want to take any chances so I just deleted.

I did notice that most of the ones that I got with the title of " New

Graphic " came as a two pack. That is to say that I got two emails, same title,

same sender.

Debbie

Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were

and ask why not. G.B Shaw

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[Guest guest]

Its a virus coming from Yahoo. I am getting it on all my groups. So it isn't

coming from you.

Tawnya

Re: New Graphic Site ... empty emails

I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

(mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

_BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the reply

lines.

Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have not

jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three separate

programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless at

the moment, my machine says it's clean.

Thanks -- Jill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/13/2006 4:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes:

I tell my users that they can leave pieces and

parts of themselves on your computer so it's best to practice prevention

at the beginning.

Sorry for the rant!

Barbara

Since this little nasty is defined as a worm by Norton, from what I learned,

leaving pieces is pretty standard. I had a rather nasty little worm about a

year ago and it took quite the process to be rid of it, including

deactivating all of my protections (while OFFLINE -- all access turned off or

unplugged)

and running a cleaner without my automated back-up abilities turned on. It

was the only way to kill all the little pieces. If I had not been following

the very specific instructions of a techno-geek marvel, I could have damaged my

system. UGH!

It would hide 2 and activate one. You'd clean one or two each time you ran

the scrubber, only to have that last one activate itself the next time you

booted your system. Nasty, nasty little devil.

I'm running Norton (Ewido and SpyDoctor) and it has not identified this

little demon on my system, so I guess there was nothing automatically

downloading

from reading that email.

I'll look for freeware scrubber for this new little devil when I come back

online.

Best - Jill

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill - it is this email. Had you not gotten it through Listen-up, it

could probably have had an enclosure with a virus or a worm...

JillcWood@... wrote:

> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

> (mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

> _BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the

reply lines.

>

> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have not

> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three separate

> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>

> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless at

> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>

> Thanks -- Jill

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is a virus coming from home computers. It has run through their

address book and sent this email to everyone on it. Do Not Open the

link if you get this email -- just delete it!! Sandy

>

> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

> (mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

> _BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the

reply lines.

>

> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs

have not

> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have

three separate

> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>

> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm

clueless at

> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>

> Thanks -- Jill

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm getting the same thing here. ????

>

> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from

_catgb2004@...<_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>_

>

> (mailto:catgb2004@... ) that include the

> Listen-Up list-serve and

> _BrooklynneRapert@... <_BrooklynneRapert%40yahoo.com>_ (mailto:

> BrooklynneRapert@... ) in the reply

> lines.

>

> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have not

> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three

> separate

> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>

> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless at

>

> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>

> Thanks -- Jill

>

>

[Guest guest]

It seems to be coming through yahoo groups - I've gotten a bunch either

through Listen-up or CI Circle. Just trash 'em!

Barbara

Robin Tomlinson wrote:

> I'm getting the same thing here. ????

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from

_catgb2004@...<_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>_

>>

>> (mailto:catgb2004@... ) that include the

>> Listen-Up list-serve and

>> _BrooklynneRapert@... <_BrooklynneRapert%40yahoo.com>_ (mailto:

>> BrooklynneRapert@... ) in the reply

>> lines.

>>

>> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have not

>> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three

>> separate

>> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>>

>> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless at

>>

>> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>>

>> Thanks -- Jill

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Here's more information - it looks like you're only vulnerable if you

opened the message within yahoo mail:

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/js.yamanner@m.html

This write-up includes info on getting rid of it as well.

Barbara

Sandy wrote:

> It is a virus coming from home computers. It has run through their

> address book and sent this email to everyone on it. Do Not Open the

> link if you get this email -- just delete it!! Sandy

>

>

>

>

>> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

>> (mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

>> _BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the

>>

> reply lines.

>

>>

>> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs

>>

> have not

>

>> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have

>>

> three separate

>

>> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>>

>> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm

>>

> clueless at

>

>> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>>

>> Thanks -- Jill

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks. Just a little nervous here lately since my hubby's laptop just

crashed today. He has Norton Internet security with all the bells and

whistles but some pop-up ad broke through it all anyway. He was working on

his computer and the annoying ad kept popping up relentlessly, telling him

computer was in danger. He of course didn't believe that and tried to close

the tiny ad, but one time accidentally clicked on the whole thing (the " x "

was soooo small), and VOILA . . . instant crash. Norton told him he had the

virus, and he had to buy something online to get rid of it. It quarantined

it, but his computer was still out of sorts pretty bad. Some guy is sorting

it all out now at a shop. The tech said that more and more creeps are using

tiny little popups that pop up near your cursor now instead of the old

e-mail attachment method. Be careful out there!

>

> It seems to be coming through yahoo groups - I've gotten a bunch either

>

> through Listen-up or CI Circle. Just trash 'em!

>

> Barbara

>

>

> Robin Tomlinson wrote:

> > I'm getting the same thing here. ????

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 6/13/06, JillcWood@...

JillcWood@...>

> wrote:

> >

> >> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from

_catgb2004@...<_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>

> <_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>_

> >>

> >> (mailto:catgb2004@... )

that include the

>

> >> Listen-Up list-serve and

> >> _BrooklynneRapert@...

<_BrooklynneRapert%40yahoo.com><_BrooklynneRapert%

> 40yahoo.com>_ (mailto:

> >> BrooklynneRapert@...

40yahoo.com>) in the reply

>

> >> lines.

> >>

> >> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have

> not

> >> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three

> >> separate

> >> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

> >>

> >> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless

> at

> >>

> >> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

> >>

> >> Thanks -- Jill

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that info!!! My Norton just said it's detected a threat on my

computer. Might be this very mess.

Robin

>

> Here's more information - it looks like you're only vulnerable if you

> opened the message within yahoo mail:

>

> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/js.yamanner@m.html

>

> This write-up includes info on getting rid of it as well.

>

> Barbara

>

> Sandy wrote:

> > It is a virus coming from home computers. It has run through their

> > address book and sent this email to everyone on it. Do Not Open the

> > link if you get this email -- just delete it!! Sandy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from _catgb2004@..._

> >> (mailto:catgb2004@...) that include the Listen-Up list-serve and

> >> _BrooklynneRapert@..._ (mailto:BrooklynneRapert@...) in the

> >>

> > reply lines.

> >

> >>

> >> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs

> >>

> > have not

> >

> >> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have

> >>

> > three separate

> >

> >> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

> >>

> >> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm

> >>

> > clueless at

> >

> >> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

> >>

> >> Thanks -- Jill

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

It's good to have a pop-up blocker (I love google toolbar - as opposed

to google desktop that can be a security problem). I find it helps a

bunch. Unfortunately, firewalls can't block out something that you as a

user do. It's such a warzone out there!

This particular nasty seems to work with yahoo mail - so for example, I

read mail signed into my non-yahoo account on Thunderbird so wouldn't be

affected. But if you have a yahoo account and open one of those mails,

evidently it infects you. It doesn't look like a bad worm to get rid of

- but you never know. I tell my users that they can leave pieces and

parts of themselves on your computer so it's best to practice prevention

at the beginning.

Sorry for the rant!

Barbara

Robin Tomlinson wrote:

> Ok, thanks. Just a little nervous here lately since my hubby's laptop just

> crashed today. He has Norton Internet security with all the bells and

> whistles but some pop-up ad broke through it all anyway. He was working on

> his computer and the annoying ad kept popping up relentlessly, telling him

> computer was in danger. He of course didn't believe that and tried to close

> the tiny ad, but one time accidentally clicked on the whole thing (the " x "

> was soooo small), and VOILA . . . instant crash. Norton told him he had the

> virus, and he had to buy something online to get rid of it. It quarantined

> it, but his computer was still out of sorts pretty bad. Some guy is sorting

> it all out now at a shop. The tech said that more and more creeps are using

> tiny little popups that pop up near your cursor now instead of the old

> e-mail attachment method. Be careful out there!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> It seems to be coming through yahoo groups - I've gotten a bunch either

>>

>> through Listen-up or CI Circle. Just trash 'em!

>>

>> Barbara

>>

>>

>> Robin Tomlinson wrote:

>>

>>> I'm getting the same thing here. ????

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On 6/13/06, JillcWood@...

JillcWood@...>

>>>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>> I have gotten about a half dozen empty emails from

_catgb2004@...<_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>

>>>>

>> <_catgb2004%40yahoo.com>_

>>

>>>> (mailto:catgb2004@... )

that include the

>>>>

>>>> Listen-Up list-serve and

>>>> _BrooklynneRapert@...

<_BrooklynneRapert%40yahoo.com><_BrooklynneRapert%

>>>>

>> 40yahoo.com>_ (mailto:

>>

>>>> BrooklynneRapert@...

>>>

>> 40yahoo.com>) in the reply

>>

>>

>>>> lines.

>>>>

>>>> Is this the email I shouldn't have opened? My security programs have

>>>>

>> not

>>

>>>> jumped on any virus, trojan, worm or data miner -- and I have three

>>>> separate

>>>> programs running that catch jsut about everything imaginable.

>>>>

>>>> Or is a virus on a home computer causing the empty emails? I'm clueless

>>>>

>> at

>>

>>>> the moment, my machine says it's clean.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks -- Jill

>>>>

>>>>