Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 My daughter has a moderate to severe hearing loss and is in 8th grade. She is an excellent student and gets all A's and B's and is in several honors classes. She has an FM but doesn't use it -- she's a 14 year-old girl who doesn't want to be different. The school wants to drop the FM from her IEP. Since she currently does not use it, it's hard to argue against that. My worry is that if in a year or two, she decides she wants/needs to use the FM, they won't provide one saying she's at grade level and doesn't need it for a FAPE. Any ideas how to keep the FM in the IEP, even if it's not currently provided. Thanks, Judy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 And here I am with a kid who likes his FM and is asking us to buy a system for home use. He must be the exception to the rule on this topic! Or maybe he's just a gadget geek. As for the SATs ... I wouldn't drop the FM entirely from the IEP, even if it's not in use. Because based on our recent experience, if it's not in the IEP/IAP, then you're going to have a bit of a struggle getting it approved for usage for the PSAT/SAT. I like 's suggestion of at least having it in there as a testing accommodation. Then if the child changes his/her mind about using it, it's already in there and its usage is simply expanded. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 In a message dated 9/28/2006 1:06:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: Our ToD said that lots of teens are like that. And boy is your TOD right about them not wanting to be different. Or they're striving to be different but not in a way that makes them TOO different. I wouldn't repeat puberty if you paid me -- unless I could go back knowing everything I know NOW. Jill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Judy, don't have any answers but wanted to let you know we are in the same boat! My daughter is 15, has a mod-severe loss and won't use her FM, though we are in private school so don't have an IEP. (She would have never made it through elementary school without it though!!) I think you are right to keep it in the IEP and here's an argument that might help - taking the SAT. SATs are very important for a child who is college bound as your daughter sounds like she is. SATs are usually given in large halls or auditoriums which are notoriously bad for being able to hear instructions. So the use of the FM system and preferential seating are absolutely necessary for a hearing impaired child to be able to take the SAT. My daughter took the real SAT as a 7th grader and we went through the hoops to get the use of the FM and preferential seating for her. We now have documentation with the college board/SAT folks that she has these accomodations and they continue from year to year. Our principal signed a statement that Maggie used the FM and preferential seating in school, which was true then, but now (8th and 9th grade) she won't use the FM. But Maggie knew she'd need the FM for the SAT and was downright frantic about taking the SAT without being able to hear the instructions! If you are in public school the college board wants to know if the requested accomodation is " in the IEP. " So hopefully they will be willing to leave the FM in the IEP. Maybe they are worried that you will try to blame them for non-use of the FM and that is why they want it out of the IEP. Or maybe their attorney is advising them to worry that you will blame them or file a complaint for non-compliance with the IEP since the FM is not in use. Also they might want to use her FM for another student which they couldn't do if they were worried you would jump on them. I wonder if the use of the FM was in the IEP as a " testing accomodation " if that might satisfy the school system and the SAT people. Of course, I'm really hoping that once the adolescent developmental stage of being more worried about the other kids thinking the FM is weird will pass, she'll " wake up " and Maggie will begin to use the FM again because it helps her and she really does need it to have equal and full access to the classroom. I actually tried to bribe her with a blue tooth neckloop that she could use as an FM and as a handsfree thing for her cell phone. She still won't even consider using it! Time will tell. From the time she got her aids at 3 3/4 years, she was very proud of them, not self conscious at all, and in fact for years wore a pony tail so everyone could see her HAs and always got wild colors of ear molds. She hit 13/14 years old and made a 180 degree turn. We just bought SeboTeks primarily because they are pretty much invisible. She didn't even want to try another BTE or traditional in the ear aids once she saw the new " speaker in the ear " mini aids like SeboTek and Phonak MicroPower and Oticon Delta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Oh, let me add to that chorus! Tom won't wear his either. It's nearly new and works with his new CI. Sam, my 11 year old, has the same setup and loves his so go figure. pcknott@... wrote: > Judy, don't have any answers but wanted to let you know we are in the same boat! My daughter is 15, has a mod-severe loss and won't use her FM, though we are in private school so don't have an IEP. (She would have never made it through elementary school without it though!!) I think you are right to keep it in the IEP and here's an argument that might help - taking the SAT. SATs are very important for a child who is college bound as your daughter sounds like she is. SATs are usually given in large halls or auditoriums which are notoriously bad for being able to hear instructions. So the use of the FM system and preferential seating are absolutely necessary for a hearing impaired child to be able to take the SAT. > > My daughter took the real SAT as a 7th grader and we went through the hoops to get the use of the FM and preferential seating for her. We now have documentation with the college board/SAT folks that she has these accomodations and they continue from year to year. Our principal signed a statement that Maggie used the FM and preferential seating in school, which was true then, but now (8th and 9th grade) she won't use the FM. But Maggie knew she'd need the FM for the SAT and was downright frantic about taking the SAT without being able to hear the instructions! If you are in public school the college board wants to know if the requested accomodation is " in the IEP. " So hopefully they will be willing to leave the FM in the IEP. > > Maybe they are worried that you will try to blame them for non-use of the FM and that is why they want it out of the IEP. Or maybe their attorney is advising them to worry that you will blame them or file a complaint for non-compliance with the IEP since the FM is not in use. Also they might want to use her FM for another student which they couldn't do if they were worried you would jump on them. I wonder if the use of the FM was in the IEP as a " testing accomodation " if that might satisfy the school system and the SAT people. > > Of course, I'm really hoping that once the adolescent developmental stage of being more worried about the other kids thinking the FM is weird will pass, she'll " wake up " and Maggie will begin to use the FM again because it helps her and she really does need it to have equal and full access to the classroom. I actually tried to bribe her with a blue tooth neckloop that she could use as an FM and as a handsfree thing for her cell phone. She still won't even consider using it! Time will tell. From the time she got her aids at 3 3/4 years, she was very proud of them, not self conscious at all, and in fact for years wore a pony tail so everyone could see her HAs and always got wild colors of ear molds. She hit 13/14 years old and made a 180 degree turn. We just bought SeboTeks primarily because they are pretty much invisible. She didn't even want to try another BTE or traditional in the ear aids once she saw the new " speaker in the ear " mini aids like SeboTek and Phonak M! > icroPower and Oticon Delta. > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Oh, let me add to that chorus! Tom won't wear his either. It's nearly new and works with his new CI. Sam, my 11 year old, has the same setup and loves his so go figure. pcknott@... wrote: > Judy, don't have any answers but wanted to let you know we are in the same boat! My daughter is 15, has a mod-severe loss and won't use her FM, though we are in private school so don't have an IEP. (She would have never made it through elementary school without it though!!) I think you are right to keep it in the IEP and here's an argument that might help - taking the SAT. SATs are very important for a child who is college bound as your daughter sounds like she is. SATs are usually given in large halls or auditoriums which are notoriously bad for being able to hear instructions. So the use of the FM system and preferential seating are absolutely necessary for a hearing impaired child to be able to take the SAT. > > My daughter took the real SAT as a 7th grader and we went through the hoops to get the use of the FM and preferential seating for her. We now have documentation with the college board/SAT folks that she has these accomodations and they continue from year to year. Our principal signed a statement that Maggie used the FM and preferential seating in school, which was true then, but now (8th and 9th grade) she won't use the FM. But Maggie knew she'd need the FM for the SAT and was downright frantic about taking the SAT without being able to hear the instructions! If you are in public school the college board wants to know if the requested accomodation is " in the IEP. " So hopefully they will be willing to leave the FM in the IEP. > > Maybe they are worried that you will try to blame them for non-use of the FM and that is why they want it out of the IEP. Or maybe their attorney is advising them to worry that you will blame them or file a complaint for non-compliance with the IEP since the FM is not in use. Also they might want to use her FM for another student which they couldn't do if they were worried you would jump on them. I wonder if the use of the FM was in the IEP as a " testing accomodation " if that might satisfy the school system and the SAT people. > > Of course, I'm really hoping that once the adolescent developmental stage of being more worried about the other kids thinking the FM is weird will pass, she'll " wake up " and Maggie will begin to use the FM again because it helps her and she really does need it to have equal and full access to the classroom. I actually tried to bribe her with a blue tooth neckloop that she could use as an FM and as a handsfree thing for her cell phone. She still won't even consider using it! Time will tell. From the time she got her aids at 3 3/4 years, she was very proud of them, not self conscious at all, and in fact for years wore a pony tail so everyone could see her HAs and always got wild colors of ear molds. She hit 13/14 years old and made a 180 degree turn. We just bought SeboTeks primarily because they are pretty much invisible. She didn't even want to try another BTE or traditional in the ear aids once she saw the new " speaker in the ear " mini aids like SeboTek and Phonak M! > icroPower and Oticon Delta. > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Oh, let me add to that chorus! Tom won't wear his either. It's nearly new and works with his new CI. Sam, my 11 year old, has the same setup and loves his so go figure. pcknott@... wrote: > Judy, don't have any answers but wanted to let you know we are in the same boat! My daughter is 15, has a mod-severe loss and won't use her FM, though we are in private school so don't have an IEP. (She would have never made it through elementary school without it though!!) I think you are right to keep it in the IEP and here's an argument that might help - taking the SAT. SATs are very important for a child who is college bound as your daughter sounds like she is. SATs are usually given in large halls or auditoriums which are notoriously bad for being able to hear instructions. So the use of the FM system and preferential seating are absolutely necessary for a hearing impaired child to be able to take the SAT. > > My daughter took the real SAT as a 7th grader and we went through the hoops to get the use of the FM and preferential seating for her. We now have documentation with the college board/SAT folks that she has these accomodations and they continue from year to year. Our principal signed a statement that Maggie used the FM and preferential seating in school, which was true then, but now (8th and 9th grade) she won't use the FM. But Maggie knew she'd need the FM for the SAT and was downright frantic about taking the SAT without being able to hear the instructions! If you are in public school the college board wants to know if the requested accomodation is " in the IEP. " So hopefully they will be willing to leave the FM in the IEP. > > Maybe they are worried that you will try to blame them for non-use of the FM and that is why they want it out of the IEP. Or maybe their attorney is advising them to worry that you will blame them or file a complaint for non-compliance with the IEP since the FM is not in use. Also they might want to use her FM for another student which they couldn't do if they were worried you would jump on them. I wonder if the use of the FM was in the IEP as a " testing accomodation " if that might satisfy the school system and the SAT people. > > Of course, I'm really hoping that once the adolescent developmental stage of being more worried about the other kids thinking the FM is weird will pass, she'll " wake up " and Maggie will begin to use the FM again because it helps her and she really does need it to have equal and full access to the classroom. I actually tried to bribe her with a blue tooth neckloop that she could use as an FM and as a handsfree thing for her cell phone. She still won't even consider using it! Time will tell. From the time she got her aids at 3 3/4 years, she was very proud of them, not self conscious at all, and in fact for years wore a pony tail so everyone could see her HAs and always got wild colors of ear molds. She hit 13/14 years old and made a 180 degree turn. We just bought SeboTeks primarily because they are pretty much invisible. She didn't even want to try another BTE or traditional in the ear aids once she saw the new " speaker in the ear " mini aids like SeboTek and Phonak M! > icroPower and Oticon Delta. > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Elias is only 4, but he loves his FM. I think he loves it more than the hearing aids themselves, so it must make a big difference for him. He even makes me put it on in the car. > > And here I am with a kid who likes his FM and is asking us to buy a > system > for home use. He must be the exception to the rule on this topic! Or maybe > > he's just a gadget geek. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 **sigh** Tom was that way too - up until last year. He now hates it. I think because it singles him out and makes him different. I think it makes a difference for Tom too but it IS a hassle - I agree with that. He has to carry it from class to class. Plus of course he is hearing so much better with his implant, who am I to say. We're compromising and having him wear it during assemblies and such. Our ToD said that lots of teens are like that. Bonnie MacKellar wrote: > Elias is only 4, but he loves his FM. I think he loves it more than the > hearing aids > themselves, so it must make a big difference for him. He even makes me put > it on in the car. > > > >> And here I am with a kid who likes his FM and is asking us to buy a >> system >> for home use. He must be the exception to the rule on this topic! Or maybe >> >> he's just a gadget geek. >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Maggie was like that too - loved the FM and didn't care that the microlinks hung down below her ears. She liked to use the FM in stores so she could be out of my sight but I could tell her where to meet me etc. Gave her a little independence since before diagnosis she was a " runner " and would get behind things and inside racks etc and I was forever looking for her. And she couldn't hear me calling unless I was very close or very loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I just came back from my kids' school's Open House. My HOH son is in 11th grade. One of his teachers mentioned (which he never had) that she had had laryngitis for two weeks. During that time, she would whisper into his FM microphone and he would relay information to the class. He has been going through a new stage this fall where he was " tired of being HOH " , and wanted to be " like everyone else " . I asked him about this class, and he was thrilled to be on the information-giving side for a change. Now I wish I could encourage a bit more laryngitis in the faculty. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I just came back from my kids' school's Open House. My HOH son is in 11th grade. One of his teachers mentioned (which he never had) that she had had laryngitis for two weeks. During that time, she would whisper into his FM microphone and he would relay information to the class. He has been going through a new stage this fall where he was " tired of being HOH " , and wanted to be " like everyone else " . I asked him about this class, and he was thrilled to be on the information-giving side for a change. Now I wish I could encourage a bit more laryngitis in the faculty. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I just came back from my kids' school's Open House. My HOH son is in 11th grade. One of his teachers mentioned (which he never had) that she had had laryngitis for two weeks. During that time, she would whisper into his FM microphone and he would relay information to the class. He has been going through a new stage this fall where he was " tired of being HOH " , and wanted to be " like everyone else " . I asked him about this class, and he was thrilled to be on the information-giving side for a change. Now I wish I could encourage a bit more laryngitis in the faculty. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 LOL-The things we wish for! > > I just came back from my kids' school's Open House. My HOH son is in > 11th grade. One of his teachers mentioned (which he never had) that she > had had laryngitis for two weeks. During that time, she would whisper > into his FM microphone and he would relay information to the class. He > has been going through a new stage this fall where he was " tired of > being HOH " , and wanted to be " like everyone else " . I asked him about > this class, and he was thrilled to be on the information-giving side > for a change. Now I wish I could encourage a bit more laryngitis in the > faculty. > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 LOL-The things we wish for! > > I just came back from my kids' school's Open House. My HOH son is in > 11th grade. One of his teachers mentioned (which he never had) that she > had had laryngitis for two weeks. During that time, she would whisper > into his FM microphone and he would relay information to the class. He > has been going through a new stage this fall where he was " tired of > being HOH " , and wanted to be " like everyone else " . I asked him about > this class, and he was thrilled to be on the information-giving side > for a change. Now I wish I could encourage a bit more laryngitis in the > faculty. > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 , that is hilarious! And maybe he'll like teaching?? And its great practice to be talking in front of a group of people - that will take him far in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 , that is hilarious! And maybe he'll like teaching?? And its great practice to be talking in front of a group of people - that will take him far in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 , that is hilarious! And maybe he'll like teaching?? And its great practice to be talking in front of a group of people - that will take him far in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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