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Okay guys... I finally ordered a new hearing aid. You know I've been

asking questions about hearing aid performance with a CI on this list for the

past year. will be six years old next month and has had his CI since he

was 20 months. He has some residual hearing in the unimplanted ear.

I think it was when I dropped 's Phonak Sono Forte aid in the bathroom

last week and broke it that I finally got the push to make the call for a new

aid. So is getting a Widex Diva digital aid. Now that the decision has

been made I'm looking forward to seeing what he thinks about the change. He's

been pretty indifferent about the aid although he has some residual hearing. He

can take it or leave it. the Divas are on backorder so the audi is letting us

pick up a loaner tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.

For those of you who have children with aids with noise reduction, do you keep

that feature on all the time or does your child choose when they want to enable

that feature? has told me that " it is too loud " in the cafeteria and " at

work time " in the classroom and he's turned his aid off. It will be interesting

to see if he can tell a difference with the new aid.

Are there any other features or programs that get switched on or off in various

situations?

K

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, we just got done trialing and buying new aids. Maggie is 15 so she knows

what she likes and dislikes in a hearing aid. Like she turns her hearing

aids off when she wants peace and quiet. She didn't like the automatic noise

reduction at all - the Phonak MicroPowers had that. With the MicroPowers,she

wouldn't even wear them enough to decently try them - that's how much she hated

the noise reduction and then she lost one of the loaners. Bad thing. She had

used a Diva before when her aid was in for repair and she did love the Diva. We

didn't trial them this time because she was set on a mini aid with speaker in

the ear and the DIVAs wouldn't do that. But she ended up with an aid with 4

programs. She has programs for noise and she never uses them! Hopefully she

will try them out, she's just used to one program so she doesn't think about

changing programs. She didn't even want one for the T Coil. Oh well, its in

the aid and if she decides to use it she can.

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is on his first set of aids...the audi just preprogrammed them

witht he noise reduction...his button is deactivated...

the only way he can turn them off is by opening the battery cover...but

he only does that at night...i don't think he realizes he can do that

during the day

There is one tractor he rides in with Daddy that is very loud and he'll

get very cranky...so wayne just takes them out for him before he gets

in...

on the plus side--we were at the farm the other day, and about 6 miles

away there is a car race track..and on friday nights you can hear the

cars...joey hasn't been there on fridays in a while since we moved off

the farm...and this friday we were there and he heard the noise, and I

told them it was the race cars...he said " My hearing aids can hear that!

They're working good so I can listen. " He was so excited, and we

realized he had never heard that before...then he asked " Is Junior

there? " No ...it's just a little track. again he said " My hearing

aids are doing a good job "

it was pretty cute...

I'm sure we have time before the next aids need to be ordered, but I'm

sure I'll be checking in with you guys before I do!

-katie

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, we just got done trialing and buying new aids. Maggie is 15 so she

knows what she likes and dislikes in a hearing aid. Like she turns

her hearing aids off when she wants peace and quiet. She didn't like the

automatic noise reduction at all - the Phonak MicroPowers had that. With

the MicroPowers,she wouldn't even wear them enough to decently try them

- that's how much she hated the noise reduction and then she lost one of

the loaners. Bad thing. She had used a Diva before when her aid was in

for repair and she did love the Diva. We didn't trial them this time

because she was set on a mini aid with speaker in the ear and the DIVAs

wouldn't do that. But she ended up with an aid with 4 programs. She has

programs for noise and she never uses them! Hopefully she will try them

out, she's just used to one program so she doesn't think about changing

programs. She didn't even want one for the T Coil. Oh well, its in the

aid and if she decid! es to use it she can.

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Hi ,

Did you end up with the Sebotek? I asked my audi about them. She

brought out all the brochures for somewhat similiar aids, but was

not Pro Sebotek. I couldn't figure it out until I pressed the

issue. It really comes down to the fact that they don't sell the

Sebotek, and don't plan on increasing their product line. As they

are about the only game in town for pediatric aid fitting, I guess

we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that makes me crazy.

>

> , we just got done trialing and buying new aids. Maggie is 15

so she knows what she likes and dislikes in a hearing aid. Like

she turns her hearing aids off when she wants peace and quiet.

She didn't like the automatic noise reduction at all - the Phonak

MicroPowers had that. With the MicroPowers,she wouldn't even wear

them enough to decently try them - that's how much she hated the

noise reduction and then she lost one of the loaners. Bad thing.

She had used a Diva before when her aid was in for repair and she

did love the Diva. We didn't trial them this time because she was

set on a mini aid with speaker in the ear and the DIVAs wouldn't do

that. But she ended up with an aid with 4 programs. She has

programs for noise and she never uses them! Hopefully she will try

them out, she's just used to one program so she doesn't think about

changing programs. She didn't even want one for the T Coil. Oh

well, its in the aid and if she decides to use it she can.

>

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" As they are about the only game in town for pediatric aid

fitting, I guess we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that

makes me crazy. "

Are you serious? Any pedi audi can /ought to contact a manufacture

directly for instrument specific programming info. It really miffs me

to learn that there is still so much resistance from the peds crowd

when it comes to newly available hearing instruments.

I believe Oticon now makes a Sebotek type aid with the receiver in the

ear (RITE). If Sebotek is too boutique for your audi, perhaps he/she

would be willing to call Oticon.

J

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" As they are about the only game in town for pediatric aid

fitting, I guess we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that

makes me crazy. "

Are you serious? Any pedi audi can /ought to contact a manufacture

directly for instrument specific programming info. It really miffs me

to learn that there is still so much resistance from the peds crowd

when it comes to newly available hearing instruments.

I believe Oticon now makes a Sebotek type aid with the receiver in the

ear (RITE). If Sebotek is too boutique for your audi, perhaps he/she

would be willing to call Oticon.

J

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I think if we could work with a smaller audiologist, then perhaps we

could get them to be more flexible. I have not been able to find

one that will do pediatric hearing aid fitting, even though my son

is 10 now. Right now we really only have a few choices, the one we

are with is the local children's hospital. They just have to have

these procedures for product selection, billing, trialing, etc. as

well as supporting the technology with extremely large case loads.

I can see why it is this way, but it would have helped if someone

could have clued me in to this. Instead, when I have approached

about different aids, I have gotten the run around, directed to

other product, and told why that one would not work, etc. Just

tell me you don't sell that product-the end. There are some other

benefits to working with the children's hospital. We have insurance

that paid $500 per ear, but due to the contract our insurance has

with the hospital, we didn't pay anything for his aids at all. That

was huge! They also offered us a 3 month trial, which was really

great. They do have all the latest technology available, as well as

being on site with our Otologist and the lab for blood draws etc.

I did find one other pediatric audiologist that we tried. She was

fine, but offered no benefit, other than location. She also was

limited to selling and supporting the product that her company

selected, and seemed uninterested in trying to get them to allow us

to choose other products.

I continue to be open to finding a different audiology experience if

we get the opportunity, but since my son is a difficult hearing aid

fit anyhow, and may not get enough benefit to make it worth pursuing

more until his hearing drops more, I am concentrating on the other

things we can do to support him.

I don't know if we are doing the right thing, but as there seems to

be no manual, just have to make to with trying the best we can and

changing if things aren't working.

Thanks for your input. I admire your diligence in always

researching and seeking out the very best choice for your daughter.

Tracey

" As they are about the only game in town for pediatric aid

> fitting, I guess we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that

> makes me crazy. "

>

> Are you serious? Any pedi audi can /ought to contact a manufacture

> directly for instrument specific programming info. It really miffs

me

> to learn that there is still so much resistance from the peds

crowd

> when it comes to newly available hearing instruments.

>

> I believe Oticon now makes a Sebotek type aid with the receiver in

the

> ear (RITE). If Sebotek is too boutique for your audi, perhaps

he/she

> would be willing to call Oticon.

>

> J

>

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I think if we could work with a smaller audiologist, then perhaps we

could get them to be more flexible. I have not been able to find

one that will do pediatric hearing aid fitting, even though my son

is 10 now. Right now we really only have a few choices, the one we

are with is the local children's hospital. They just have to have

these procedures for product selection, billing, trialing, etc. as

well as supporting the technology with extremely large case loads.

I can see why it is this way, but it would have helped if someone

could have clued me in to this. Instead, when I have approached

about different aids, I have gotten the run around, directed to

other product, and told why that one would not work, etc. Just

tell me you don't sell that product-the end. There are some other

benefits to working with the children's hospital. We have insurance

that paid $500 per ear, but due to the contract our insurance has

with the hospital, we didn't pay anything for his aids at all. That

was huge! They also offered us a 3 month trial, which was really

great. They do have all the latest technology available, as well as

being on site with our Otologist and the lab for blood draws etc.

I did find one other pediatric audiologist that we tried. She was

fine, but offered no benefit, other than location. She also was

limited to selling and supporting the product that her company

selected, and seemed uninterested in trying to get them to allow us

to choose other products.

I continue to be open to finding a different audiology experience if

we get the opportunity, but since my son is a difficult hearing aid

fit anyhow, and may not get enough benefit to make it worth pursuing

more until his hearing drops more, I am concentrating on the other

things we can do to support him.

I don't know if we are doing the right thing, but as there seems to

be no manual, just have to make to with trying the best we can and

changing if things aren't working.

Thanks for your input. I admire your diligence in always

researching and seeking out the very best choice for your daughter.

Tracey

" As they are about the only game in town for pediatric aid

> fitting, I guess we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that

> makes me crazy. "

>

> Are you serious? Any pedi audi can /ought to contact a manufacture

> directly for instrument specific programming info. It really miffs

me

> to learn that there is still so much resistance from the peds

crowd

> when it comes to newly available hearing instruments.

>

> I believe Oticon now makes a Sebotek type aid with the receiver in

the

> ear (RITE). If Sebotek is too boutique for your audi, perhaps

he/she

> would be willing to call Oticon.

>

> J

>

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I think if we could work with a smaller audiologist, then perhaps we

could get them to be more flexible. I have not been able to find

one that will do pediatric hearing aid fitting, even though my son

is 10 now. Right now we really only have a few choices, the one we

are with is the local children's hospital. They just have to have

these procedures for product selection, billing, trialing, etc. as

well as supporting the technology with extremely large case loads.

I can see why it is this way, but it would have helped if someone

could have clued me in to this. Instead, when I have approached

about different aids, I have gotten the run around, directed to

other product, and told why that one would not work, etc. Just

tell me you don't sell that product-the end. There are some other

benefits to working with the children's hospital. We have insurance

that paid $500 per ear, but due to the contract our insurance has

with the hospital, we didn't pay anything for his aids at all. That

was huge! They also offered us a 3 month trial, which was really

great. They do have all the latest technology available, as well as

being on site with our Otologist and the lab for blood draws etc.

I did find one other pediatric audiologist that we tried. She was

fine, but offered no benefit, other than location. She also was

limited to selling and supporting the product that her company

selected, and seemed uninterested in trying to get them to allow us

to choose other products.

I continue to be open to finding a different audiology experience if

we get the opportunity, but since my son is a difficult hearing aid

fit anyhow, and may not get enough benefit to make it worth pursuing

more until his hearing drops more, I am concentrating on the other

things we can do to support him.

I don't know if we are doing the right thing, but as there seems to

be no manual, just have to make to with trying the best we can and

changing if things aren't working.

Thanks for your input. I admire your diligence in always

researching and seeking out the very best choice for your daughter.

Tracey

" As they are about the only game in town for pediatric aid

> fitting, I guess we don't get that choice of aids. Honestly, that

> makes me crazy. "

>

> Are you serious? Any pedi audi can /ought to contact a manufacture

> directly for instrument specific programming info. It really miffs

me

> to learn that there is still so much resistance from the peds

crowd

> when it comes to newly available hearing instruments.

>

> I believe Oticon now makes a Sebotek type aid with the receiver in

the

> ear (RITE). If Sebotek is too boutique for your audi, perhaps

he/she

> would be willing to call Oticon.

>

> J

>

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They do, but the specs do not look the same as the Sebotek. I dont'

think the Phonak version claims to be a good choice for low frequency

loss, or maybe it was the configuration. The Sebotek was the only one

that had specs that claimed to work for my son's loss, but the audi

said they really wouldn't work for him.

>

> Oticon makes the Delta, but it is not made for a flat loss, just

for high frequency loss only. As of July, only 3 companies made one

strong enough for flat / mod-severe loss. Phonak has the MicroPower,

Sebotek and one called Vivatone that our audi didn't deal with.

Surely a pediatric audie would carry Phonak!

>

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They do, but the specs do not look the same as the Sebotek. I dont'

think the Phonak version claims to be a good choice for low frequency

loss, or maybe it was the configuration. The Sebotek was the only one

that had specs that claimed to work for my son's loss, but the audi

said they really wouldn't work for him.

>

> Oticon makes the Delta, but it is not made for a flat loss, just

for high frequency loss only. As of July, only 3 companies made one

strong enough for flat / mod-severe loss. Phonak has the MicroPower,

Sebotek and one called Vivatone that our audi didn't deal with.

Surely a pediatric audie would carry Phonak!

>

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