Re: HELP My 3 Y/O driving me nuts

[Guest guest]

you sound like you're at your wits end and i think we've all been there at one

time or

another. i don't know your son but just from your post it sounds as if he could

possibly

have sensory processing disorder. kids with apraxia often have SPD also, like

my son.

please check out this other group (sensoryintegration) and try reading

" the out of

sync child " and see if you see your son in those symptoms. it may be that he is

just overly

responsive to some stimuli and that the world is a buzzing whirling overwhelming

blur to

him. for the sake of your sanity and a peaceful childhood for your son, check it

out. good

luck to you!

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

> ordeal!

>

[Guest guest]

Just try to keep in mind that he is still just a child...and if he has sensory

issues, a simple thing may be very upsetting or frightening to him. If he has a

speech delay, than he has some challenges that may frusterate him more than

other children. Hang in there and try to look past the tantrums

By the way...lots of boys (speech delayed or not) have the same challenges with

potty training and the event happening in the diaper after waiting at the potty.

Try not to worry about it! Good luck!

[ ] HELP My 3 Y/O driving me nuts

My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

ordeal!

I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

no where until it's done kind of way.

I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails... I've

stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am so

fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne (toddler

toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

don't want that ...

Thanks... newbe here

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I can really empathize with you. Are there some things that set him off

worse? Does he " feed on " a busy, noisy house? Will he settle down if you

remove those stimuli, like the TV or radio? Does a quiet voice and room

settle him?

What about toys, and diversions? Likes and dislikes? Sorry so many

questions, but I want to see if there is a comparison with my 3 yr. old son.

As far as potty training- is he a young 3 yr. old? My son is potty trained

during the day, but still wears a diaper at night, He was extremely

resistant to potty training. Didn't care a bit about wearing a dirty

diaper. I believe it was a control issue with him. ( And he is a strong

willed boy.) But I am strong willed, too. It got to the point where

training pants were nothing more than a diaper. He couldn't see a

difference, and frankly they're made out of the same stuff so I could see

where he'd think " no big deal wearin' these! " <<VBG<

At the beginning of preschool, I had a talk with one of his teachers about

all the potty training issues. She said, " No big deal. Send him in

underpants and a change of clothes. " When I got home, I told my son that

" I had a nice talk with his teacher. She and I both decided you could wear

underpants to school. When you need to go, just let them know. " Well, you

should have seen the look on his face! lol It was like " the jig is up and

now they know. " We haven't had too many problems since. So, you never know

what it'll take to solve the problem.

Hang in there. I really do know how you feel. And with a newborn on board

as well, it's just compounding all your stress.

On 1/1/07, dianaextein <dianaextein@...> wrote:

>

> you sound like you're at your wits end and i think we've all been there

> at one time or

> another. i don't know your son but just from your post it sounds as if he

> could possibly

> have sensory processing disorder. kids with apraxia often have SPD also,

> like my son.

> please check out this other group (sensoryintegration) and try

> reading " the out of

> sync child " and see if you see your son in those symptoms. it may be that

> he is just overly

> responsive to some stimuli and that the world is a buzzing whirling

> overwhelming blur to

> him. for the sake of your sanity and a peaceful childhood for your son,

> check it out. good

> luck to you!

>

>

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That group 'sensoryintegration' is public and has been taken over

by spammers. Too bad.

My child doesn't have apraxia. But she does have sensory

integration issues. In fact, they seem to be at the root of her

speech delay. She is 3.5 years old and isn't potty trained

either. She went back into private OT in late October. She was

refusing to wear her clothes. It took me hours to dress her in the

morning, and I eventually got fired from my job as one of the

byproducts of being late to work.

The OT tells me that sensory integration issues have a lot to do

with late potty training. And the fits are actually defensiveness.

My daughter has been known to hit me in the face; it makes me

madder than hell too when she does it hard. But it is a defensive

reaction. She's too little to do it on purpose. It means she needs

more deep pressure.

So my suggestions to you would be the following:

1) Realize you are not alone in this. Your child will eventually

learn to use the potty.

2) Talk to your child's doctor. My conversation let to a very

useful a referal to an Occupational Therapist who has been a life

saver.

3) Don't be afraid to put your child in a part time preschool

program. He may not be as verbal his peers. But he may pick up

some good role models while he's ther.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into

a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That group 'sensoryintegration' is public and has been taken over

by spammers. Too bad.

My child doesn't have apraxia. But she does have sensory

integration issues. In fact, they seem to be at the root of her

speech delay. She is 3.5 years old and isn't potty trained

either. She went back into private OT in late October. She was

refusing to wear her clothes. It took me hours to dress her in the

morning, and I eventually got fired from my job as one of the

byproducts of being late to work.

The OT tells me that sensory integration issues have a lot to do

with late potty training. And the fits are actually defensiveness.

My daughter has been known to hit me in the face; it makes me

madder than hell too when she does it hard. But it is a defensive

reaction. She's too little to do it on purpose. It means she needs

more deep pressure.

So my suggestions to you would be the following:

1) Realize you are not alone in this. Your child will eventually

learn to use the potty.

2) Talk to your child's doctor. My conversation let to a very

useful a referal to an Occupational Therapist who has been a life

saver.

3) Don't be afraid to put your child in a part time preschool

program. He may not be as verbal his peers. But he may pick up

some good role models while he's ther.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into

a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

you sound like you're at your wits end and i think we've all been there at one

time or

another. i don't know your son but just from your post it sounds as if he could

possibly

have sensory processing disorder. kids with apraxia often have SPD also, like

my son.

please check out this other group (sensoryintegration) and try reading

" the out of

sync child " and see if you see your son in those symptoms. it may be that he is

just overly

responsive to some stimuli and that the world is a buzzing whirling overwhelming

blur to

him. for the sake of your sanity and a peaceful childhood for your son, check it

out. good

luck to you!

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

> ordeal!

>

[Guest guest]

Just try to keep in mind that he is still just a child...and if he has sensory

issues, a simple thing may be very upsetting or frightening to him. If he has a

speech delay, than he has some challenges that may frusterate him more than

other children. Hang in there and try to look past the tantrums

By the way...lots of boys (speech delayed or not) have the same challenges with

potty training and the event happening in the diaper after waiting at the potty.

Try not to worry about it! Good luck!

[ ] HELP My 3 Y/O driving me nuts

My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

ordeal!

I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

no where until it's done kind of way.

I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails... I've

stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am so

fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne (toddler

toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

don't want that ...

Thanks... newbe here

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I can really empathize with you. Are there some things that set him off

worse? Does he " feed on " a busy, noisy house? Will he settle down if you

remove those stimuli, like the TV or radio? Does a quiet voice and room

settle him?

What about toys, and diversions? Likes and dislikes? Sorry so many

questions, but I want to see if there is a comparison with my 3 yr. old son.

As far as potty training- is he a young 3 yr. old? My son is potty trained

during the day, but still wears a diaper at night, He was extremely

resistant to potty training. Didn't care a bit about wearing a dirty

diaper. I believe it was a control issue with him. ( And he is a strong

willed boy.) But I am strong willed, too. It got to the point where

training pants were nothing more than a diaper. He couldn't see a

difference, and frankly they're made out of the same stuff so I could see

where he'd think " no big deal wearin' these! " <<VBG<

At the beginning of preschool, I had a talk with one of his teachers about

all the potty training issues. She said, " No big deal. Send him in

underpants and a change of clothes. " When I got home, I told my son that

" I had a nice talk with his teacher. She and I both decided you could wear

underpants to school. When you need to go, just let them know. " Well, you

should have seen the look on his face! lol It was like " the jig is up and

now they know. " We haven't had too many problems since. So, you never know

what it'll take to solve the problem.

Hang in there. I really do know how you feel. And with a newborn on board

as well, it's just compounding all your stress.

On 1/1/07, dianaextein <dianaextein@...> wrote:

>

> you sound like you're at your wits end and i think we've all been there

> at one time or

> another. i don't know your son but just from your post it sounds as if he

> could possibly

> have sensory processing disorder. kids with apraxia often have SPD also,

> like my son.

> please check out this other group (sensoryintegration) and try

> reading " the out of

> sync child " and see if you see your son in those symptoms. it may be that

> he is just overly

> responsive to some stimuli and that the world is a buzzing whirling

> overwhelming blur to

> him. for the sake of your sanity and a peaceful childhood for your son,

> check it out. good

> luck to you!

>

>

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine.. working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That group 'sensoryintegration' is public and has been taken over

by spammers. Too bad.

My child doesn't have apraxia. But she does have sensory

integration issues. In fact, they seem to be at the root of her

speech delay. She is 3.5 years old and isn't potty trained

either. She went back into private OT in late October. She was

refusing to wear her clothes. It took me hours to dress her in the

morning, and I eventually got fired from my job as one of the

byproducts of being late to work.

The OT tells me that sensory integration issues have a lot to do

with late potty training. And the fits are actually defensiveness.

My daughter has been known to hit me in the face; it makes me

madder than hell too when she does it hard. But it is a defensive

reaction. She's too little to do it on purpose. It means she needs

more deep pressure.

So my suggestions to you would be the following:

1) Realize you are not alone in this. Your child will eventually

learn to use the potty.

2) Talk to your child's doctor. My conversation let to a very

useful a referal to an Occupational Therapist who has been a life

saver.

3) Don't be afraid to put your child in a part time preschool

program. He may not be as verbal his peers. But he may pick up

some good role models while he's ther.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into

a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That group 'sensoryintegration' is public and has been taken over

by spammers. Too bad.

My child doesn't have apraxia. But she does have sensory

integration issues. In fact, they seem to be at the root of her

speech delay. She is 3.5 years old and isn't potty trained

either. She went back into private OT in late October. She was

refusing to wear her clothes. It took me hours to dress her in the

morning, and I eventually got fired from my job as one of the

byproducts of being late to work.

The OT tells me that sensory integration issues have a lot to do

with late potty training. And the fits are actually defensiveness.

My daughter has been known to hit me in the face; it makes me

madder than hell too when she does it hard. But it is a defensive

reaction. She's too little to do it on purpose. It means she needs

more deep pressure.

So my suggestions to you would be the following:

1) Realize you are not alone in this. Your child will eventually

learn to use the potty.

2) Talk to your child's doctor. My conversation let to a very

useful a referal to an Occupational Therapist who has been a life

saver.

3) Don't be afraid to put your child in a part time preschool

program. He may not be as verbal his peers. But he may pick up

some good role models while he's ther.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into

a big

> > ordeal!

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program "

for

> his

> > > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3

y/o

> to a

> > > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum

(sorry

> bad

> > > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing

into

> a big

> > > ordeal!

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program "

for

> his

> > > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3

y/o

> to a

> > > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum

(sorry

> bad

> > > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing

into

> a big

> > > ordeal!

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

[Guest guest]

Just an FYI, my son who has Apraxia and Sensory Processing Disorder was

potty-trained at 4.3 y.o.! I thought it would never happen. He was on a

timer schedule at school...every 20 minutes. At home we pretty much did

nothing. He decided it was time! The best is he's never turned back and

never had an accident.

" amieestrella "

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I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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hello my son is 4 years old and he not potty train and he even go to preschool

amieestrella <mestrell@...> wrote:

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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[Guest guest]

Myra,

I am glad you mentioned this. I was going to suggest that Dawn ask

her pediatrician to refer her son for an Occupational Therapy (OT)

eval for sensory integration issues. Dyspraxia (lack of body

awareness) and Hypotomia (low tone) often contribute to potty

training issues in kids and go hand in hand with Apraxia. SLP's

(speech language pathologists) have very little traiing (usually) in

sensory issues, which as an advocate is disconcerting, since by an

far most kids that I assist have a bundle of co-morbid (occurring at

the same time) disorders. Actually, treating sensory issues can help

across the board for learning and processing issues if the child is

under the care of a very good OT.

Brigett

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

> a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

> big

> > ordeal!

> > I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> > hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you

go

> > no where until it's done kind of way.

> >

> > I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> > baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> > still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> > birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

> I've

> > stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the

other

> > training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> > bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

> so

> > fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

> (toddler

> > toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> > means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> > training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> > Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> > don't want that ...

> > Thanks... newbe here

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Same here -- he wasn't ready until 4.3 -- and was dry at night at

the same time as he decided to be dry during the day. I also credit

reducing the oxalates in his diet too.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to

> a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

> big

> > ordeal!

> > I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> > hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you

go

> > no where until it's done kind of way.

> >

> > I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> > baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> > still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> > birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

> I've

> > stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the

other

> > training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> > bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I

am

> so

> > fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

> (toddler

> > toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing..

that

> > means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> > training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> > Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I

really

> > don't want that ...

> > Thanks... newbe here

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I totally agree! When you read about potty training (even for " regular " kids)

all the books talk about how if your child is not ready then it will be a very

difficult process...not that it is ever easy. Waiting until your son is ready,

ie: he gets the concept and has a few successful attempts at even going in the

pot will make the whole process more smooth and less frustrating.

I TOTALLY understand the frustration. I have a 3yr old & a 11mo old both in

diapers. In addition to the expense it is plain GROSS! Changing the older one's

diapers is like if I took a crap in my pants!! YUCK But I have one potty chair,

two potty rings that sit on the toilet, pullups, regular underwear etc etc etc

and have still not been able to get even one successful attempt. The toilet

freaks him out!!

Oh well, I just take a deep breath, buy diapers in bulk & with coupons and

know that this too will come one day.

One new tip I tried last night & while not productive, at least my son did not

freak at the idea of sitting on the bowl: Have him sit backwoard on the ring -

holding the bowl. It gives him a better sense of security to hold on plus the

bowl is wider back there & he can better see what is going on down there. My

good friend swears by this. For us it at least helped eliminate the screams.

Martha

ilovemysonforever2002 <ilovemysonforever2002@...> wrote:

hello my son is 4 years old and he not potty train and he even go to

preschool

amieestrella <mestrell@...> wrote:

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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[Guest guest]

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

[Guest guest]

Just an FYI, my son who has Apraxia and Sensory Processing Disorder was

potty-trained at 4.3 y.o.! I thought it would never happen. He was on a

timer schedule at school...every 20 minutes. At home we pretty much did

nothing. He decided it was time! The best is he's never turned back and

never had an accident.

" amieestrella "

<mestrell@...

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I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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hello my son is 4 years old and he not potty train and he even go to preschool

amieestrella <mestrell@...> wrote:

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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[Guest guest]

Myra,

I am glad you mentioned this. I was going to suggest that Dawn ask

her pediatrician to refer her son for an Occupational Therapy (OT)

eval for sensory integration issues. Dyspraxia (lack of body

awareness) and Hypotomia (low tone) often contribute to potty

training issues in kids and go hand in hand with Apraxia. SLP's

(speech language pathologists) have very little traiing (usually) in

sensory issues, which as an advocate is disconcerting, since by an

far most kids that I assist have a bundle of co-morbid (occurring at

the same time) disorders. Actually, treating sensory issues can help

across the board for learning and processing issues if the child is

under the care of a very good OT.

Brigett

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

> a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

> big

> > ordeal!

> > I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> > hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you

go

> > no where until it's done kind of way.

> >

> > I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> > baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> > still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> > birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

> I've

> > stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the

other

> > training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> > bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

> so

> > fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

> (toddler

> > toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> > means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> > training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> > Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> > don't want that ...

> > Thanks... newbe here

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Same here -- he wasn't ready until 4.3 -- and was dry at night at

the same time as he decided to be dry during the day. I also credit

reducing the oxalates in his diet too.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to

> a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

> big

> > ordeal!

> > I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> > hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you

go

> > no where until it's done kind of way.

> >

> > I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> > baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> > still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> > birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

> I've

> > stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the

other

> > training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> > bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I

am

> so

> > fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

> (toddler

> > toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing..

that

> > means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> > training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> > Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I

really

> > don't want that ...

> > Thanks... newbe here

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I totally agree! When you read about potty training (even for " regular " kids)

all the books talk about how if your child is not ready then it will be a very

difficult process...not that it is ever easy. Waiting until your son is ready,

ie: he gets the concept and has a few successful attempts at even going in the

pot will make the whole process more smooth and less frustrating.

I TOTALLY understand the frustration. I have a 3yr old & a 11mo old both in

diapers. In addition to the expense it is plain GROSS! Changing the older one's

diapers is like if I took a crap in my pants!! YUCK But I have one potty chair,

two potty rings that sit on the toilet, pullups, regular underwear etc etc etc

and have still not been able to get even one successful attempt. The toilet

freaks him out!!

Oh well, I just take a deep breath, buy diapers in bulk & with coupons and

know that this too will come one day.

One new tip I tried last night & while not productive, at least my son did not

freak at the idea of sitting on the bowl: Have him sit backwoard on the ring -

holding the bowl. It gives him a better sense of security to hold on plus the

bowl is wider back there & he can better see what is going on down there. My

good friend swears by this. For us it at least helped eliminate the screams.

Martha

ilovemysonforever2002 <ilovemysonforever2002@...> wrote:

hello my son is 4 years old and he not potty train and he even go to

preschool

amieestrella <mestrell@...> wrote:

I would suggest going back to diapers for a while. Perhaps your 3

year old son is not ready for the potty. You may be asking too much

of yourself to try to take care of a newborn and potty train at the

same time. Take a break for a few weeks and then try the potty

again. My son is three and a half and not potty trained yet. I just

expect, like with all of his other developmental delays, potty

training is going to take longer than usual too. Good luck.

>

> My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for his

> speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o to

a

> point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry bad

> spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

working

> it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into a

big

> ordeal!

> I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you go

> no where until it's done kind of way.

>

> I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years &

> still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

I've

> stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the other

> training pants that you can through away.. & today I just recetly

> bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I am

so

> fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

(toddler

> toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing.. that

> means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I really

> don't want that ...

> Thanks... newbe here

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

My daughter (still not potty trained) used to scream when we put

her on the potty. It's called positional insecurity. We got her a

potty ring with handles and put a foot stool under her feet. It has

made her comfortable enough not to be afraid to sit on the potty.

She's just not ready.

> >

> > My son will soon go into what's called " The Teddy Program " for

his

> > speach delay.. Anyways.. I am having major issues with my 3 y/o

to

> a

> > point litterally driving me nuts! He has a tempertrampum (sorry

bad

> > spelling there) then throws a big fit.. and starts to whine..

> working

> > it's way to a loud cry.... it can strick at a simple thing into

a

> big

> > ordeal!

> > I grew up in the military way from my dad (Airforce) so .. kinda

> > hard for me to be sympathetic.. when I grew up in a do it or you

go

> > no where until it's done kind of way.

> >

> > I have a newborn.. tomarrow he'll be 3 weeks old.. A very good

> > baby; however my son.. Meh.. It's been a long hard 3 full years

&

> > still have not fully enjoyed the time with him. He cried since

> > birth... & has not stopped since. The potty training.. fails...

> I've

> > stopped buying dipers I've been using the training pants, the

other

> > training pants that you can through away.. & today I just

recetly

> > bought him underwear 6 prs. So far.. he's crapped in them.... I

am

> so

> > fed up... I mean I do have my son sit on his personal throne

> (toddler

> > toilet) for an hour or so near me.. if I hear music playing..

that

> > means he did a good thing... so far nothing.. the minute those

> > training pants or under's go back on him.. he's crapped himself..

> > Need help so bad.... I'm begining to get migrains again.. I

really

> > don't want that ...

> > Thanks... newbe here

> >

>

> img scr=*http://i2.photobucket.com

> __________________________________________________

>