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I would first try carnosine (carnaware.com) and essential GSH from

wellnesshealth.com. These really, really helped my daughter, who had

both ASD and apraxia.

Could you say more about what you mean by mild autism? This means

wildly different things to different people.

My other recommendations are to do ABA and medical intervention with a

Dan doctor. Fixing your child's nutritional deficiencies may have a

dramatic effect.

good luck

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

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You have to consider whether or not you trust the expert who diagnosed

your child. If you don't, get a second opinion. This is too

emotionally laden an issue for you to be objective - get another

expert opinion. It is hard to avoid a denial stage that can consume

time your child could be getting better treatment.

If your child is diagnosed with autism, then (s)he is showing symptoms

of more than apraxia (going by the diagnostic criteria, not the things

that are considered somewhat common in children with autism). Look at

the CHAT screen online - there is now an extended version also. Look

at the research on the CHAT's accuracy as well. There is a great risk

in ignoring a dx of autism, particularly at a young age like 2 or 2

1/2. It was a great blessing for my daughter that she was diagnosed so

young. She wasn't severe when diagnosed, but I have seen lots of

children who had mild ASD at 2 (when a lot of people will reassure you

that your child is fine, including peds) become more severely affected

as they grew older (this is very common, actually). Do you want to

wait for dx at a time when it is patently obvious to everyone that

your child has autism?

With early diagnosis, recovery is possible, not guaranteed but

possible. Learning and change come so much more easily for a younger

child. At diagnosis, my daughter was more severe than my son was at

dx, but my daughter was 2 years younger. She is now recovered, and my

son is not. My son is doing well, but not recovered. He has mild

autism, but that is enough. Not easy to deal with!

If you act as if the diagnosis is accurate, and get intensive therapy

and nutritional intervention for your young child, all you have to

lose if the dx is wrong is some time and money. If the dx is right and

you don't act, there is a lot at stake and a potentially life-long

impact on your child.

Realize that when you are talking to parents that this issue of dx

almost always involves a lot of emotion. Invest your energy now in

doing everything possible for your child while he is so young. Later

you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is doing

awesome :).

In , <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> My son was diagnosed with autism based on ADI-R and ADOS. So when I

said he was mildly autistic, it was not because he has the signs I

mentioned in my previous post (Hand flapping, looking from corner of

his eyes,no speech...) but it was due to the fact that he has been

formally diagnosed by an expert. I do not know if ADOS and ADI-R can

mislead and have wrong results. I hope they can and my son is not

really autistic, but for now I assume he has autism.

> Based on what we were told at the evaluation session, 3 factors

are considered to label a kid autistic:

> -lack of language and communication skills

> -Sensory simulations and repetitive actions

> -lack of social interactions

> What we saw during the 15-20 minutes of ADOS, which is play based,

did not reveal any clue about social interactions. It was 2 PM, his

nap time, he was very tired so that after the ADOS he fell down sleep

in his mom's lap...I assume social interaction factor was mainly

> concluded based on ADI-R which is a parent's based questioner.

> fkewatson <kwatsoneei@...> wrote:

> I'm glad to hear that others feel the same as I re: this

subject.

> The school system tried to tell me my child was autistic because of

> his expressive language delay and the fact that he is a picky eater

> (I did not listen or accept that). He's 3! These are the same

> people who told me, " apraxia is not a neurological disorder " . My

> cousin's typically developing 4 year old eats fewer things than my

> son (heck, my husband eats fewer things than my son) AND he spends a

> lot of time lining up his toys - something that my son has rarely

> done. I understand that to be just a lower level of play (sorting,

> grouping) but in today's society lining up toys equals autism. In

> the ages and stages (ages 3-5) section of the June 2006 Parenting

> magazine it addressed lining up toys as a normal function of

> development during that age group. Now, I know that Parenting

> magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but it would be

> pretty irresponsible to print such information if lining up toys only

> indicated a problem.

>

> Hand flapping is a sensory (proprioceptive) response to try to calm a

> child down in an excited state. So is toe walking and many other

> behaviors including jumping up and down. No one has ever created a

> stir over jumping up and down when excited! And the visual

> stimulation is sensory as well (if you've read The Out of Sync Child

> and Sensational Kids that might be familiar). Expressive speech

> delay plus sensory issues does not always equal autism.

>

> I've done as much research on typical development as I have on

> apraxia, sensory integration and autism and I find that the range of

> development for each age group is so broad that it is impossible

> to " standardize " a child. Sure, if your gut is telling you that your

> child may be autistic, then by all means find all the help you can

> get. But likewise, if your gut is telling you it may not be autism

> (like mine is), then do whatever you have the means to do to make

> sure all possibilities are explored before accepting a diagnosis that

> you feel may be wrong.

>

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Dear ,

Thanks for working so hard to bring awareness to autism.

Just wanted to say, keep up the good fight!

Loved how you wrote,

Later you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is

doing awesome :).

I am glad your son is doing well,

Best of wishes for the new year to you and your family!

Yeon

> You have to consider whether or not you trust the expert who

diagnosed

> your child. If you don't, get a second opinion. This is too

> emotionally laden an issue for you to be objective - get another

> expert opinion. It is hard to avoid a denial stage that can consume

> time your child could be getting better treatment.

>

> If your child is diagnosed with autism, then (s)he is showing

symptoms

> of more than apraxia (going by the diagnostic criteria, not the

things

> that are considered somewhat common in children with autism). Look

at

> the CHAT screen online - there is now an extended version also. Look

> at the research on the CHAT's accuracy as well. There is a great

risk

> in ignoring a dx of autism, particularly at a young age like 2 or 2

> 1/2. It was a great blessing for my daughter that she was diagnosed

so

> young. She wasn't severe when diagnosed, but I have seen lots of

> children who had mild ASD at 2 (when a lot of people will reassure

you

> that your child is fine, including peds) become more severely

affected

> as they grew older (this is very common, actually). Do you want to

> wait for dx at a time when it is patently obvious to everyone that

> your child has autism?

>

> With early diagnosis, recovery is possible, not guaranteed but

> possible. Learning and change come so much more easily for a younger

> child. At diagnosis, my daughter was more severe than my son was at

> dx, but my daughter was 2 years younger. She is now recovered, and

my

> son is not. My son is doing well, but not recovered. He has mild

> autism, but that is enough. Not easy to deal with!

>

> If you act as if the diagnosis is accurate, and get intensive

therapy

> and nutritional intervention for your young child, all you have to

> lose if the dx is wrong is some time and money. If the dx is right

and

> you don't act, there is a lot at stake and a potentially life-long

> impact on your child.

>

> Realize that when you are talking to parents that this issue of dx

> almost always involves a lot of emotion. Invest your energy now in

> doing everything possible for your child while he is so young. Later

> you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is doing

> awesome :).

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

Thanks for working so hard to bring awareness to autism.

Just wanted to say, keep up the good fight!

Loved how you wrote,

Later you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is

doing awesome :).

I am glad your son is doing well,

Best of wishes for the new year to you and your family!

Yeon

> You have to consider whether or not you trust the expert who

diagnosed

> your child. If you don't, get a second opinion. This is too

> emotionally laden an issue for you to be objective - get another

> expert opinion. It is hard to avoid a denial stage that can consume

> time your child could be getting better treatment.

>

> If your child is diagnosed with autism, then (s)he is showing

symptoms

> of more than apraxia (going by the diagnostic criteria, not the

things

> that are considered somewhat common in children with autism). Look

at

> the CHAT screen online - there is now an extended version also. Look

> at the research on the CHAT's accuracy as well. There is a great

risk

> in ignoring a dx of autism, particularly at a young age like 2 or 2

> 1/2. It was a great blessing for my daughter that she was diagnosed

so

> young. She wasn't severe when diagnosed, but I have seen lots of

> children who had mild ASD at 2 (when a lot of people will reassure

you

> that your child is fine, including peds) become more severely

affected

> as they grew older (this is very common, actually). Do you want to

> wait for dx at a time when it is patently obvious to everyone that

> your child has autism?

>

> With early diagnosis, recovery is possible, not guaranteed but

> possible. Learning and change come so much more easily for a younger

> child. At diagnosis, my daughter was more severe than my son was at

> dx, but my daughter was 2 years younger. She is now recovered, and

my

> son is not. My son is doing well, but not recovered. He has mild

> autism, but that is enough. Not easy to deal with!

>

> If you act as if the diagnosis is accurate, and get intensive

therapy

> and nutritional intervention for your young child, all you have to

> lose if the dx is wrong is some time and money. If the dx is right

and

> you don't act, there is a lot at stake and a potentially life-long

> impact on your child.

>

> Realize that when you are talking to parents that this issue of dx

> almost always involves a lot of emotion. Invest your energy now in

> doing everything possible for your child while he is so young. Later

> you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is doing

> awesome :).

>

>

>

>

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