Re: Expressive vs receptive language

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I work with children with Autism who are 3-5 years old.

Does your son receive speech therapy?

Have you checked out if he could already start a special program in the

school district (often starts for 3 year olds, but some states start as

early as 1 1/2 years of age)?

Please keep me posted and feel free to ask any questions.

Wibke

On 12/26/06, dialaxi23 <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You've centainly come to the right place. Are you familiar with fish oil

and Vitamin E therapy yet? Is he receiving any speech services?

On 12/26/06, dialaxi23 <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is your son getting therapy? If not, then you should have him

evaluated to see if he qualifies for therapy services.

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I work with children with Autism who are 3-5 years old.

Does your son receive speech therapy?

Have you checked out if he could already start a special program in the

school district (often starts for 3 year olds, but some states start as

early as 1 1/2 years of age)?

Please keep me posted and feel free to ask any questions.

Wibke

On 12/26/06, dialaxi23 <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You've centainly come to the right place. Are you familiar with fish oil

and Vitamin E therapy yet? Is he receiving any speech services?

On 12/26/06, dialaxi23 <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is your son getting therapy? If not, then you should have him

evaluated to see if he qualifies for therapy services.

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Your son may be eligible to participate in a preschool program

designed by your school district for children ages three to age six.

you should be able to request an evaluation, in writing, to your

local educational district. the school district may require you

register him.

they have thirty business days to respond to your request by

scheduling a preevaluation meeting, perhaps in your home.

these programs, part of a federal mandate, present in each state of

our United Statesm also includes transportation to and from the

preschool program after his eligibililty is determined by the

preschool Child Study Team.

I hope this helps..

> >

> > Hi

> > My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has

not

> > added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> > autistic.

> > Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

to

> > talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

with

> > him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> > suggestion?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am curious as to what age did you find out that your son is autistic because

he is extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed

him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Actually my son is 27 months and was diagnosed with autism couple of months ago.

The symptoms: Flapping his hands when he is excited, at the daycare prefers to

play alone, does not speak, and visual stimulation (looks from corner of his

eyes sometimes, specially to those items which have parallel lines patterns). He

is very well connected to his immediate family and as I said had a relatively

good receptive language.

Benetta <benettamorgan@...> wrote: I am curious as to

what age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is extremely

young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Your son may be eligible to participate in a preschool program

designed by your school district for children ages three to age six.

you should be able to request an evaluation, in writing, to your

local educational district. the school district may require you

register him.

they have thirty business days to respond to your request by

scheduling a preevaluation meeting, perhaps in your home.

these programs, part of a federal mandate, present in each state of

our United Statesm also includes transportation to and from the

preschool program after his eligibililty is determined by the

preschool Child Study Team.

I hope this helps..

> >

> > Hi

> > My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has

not

> > added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> > autistic.

> > Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

to

> > talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

with

> > him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> > suggestion?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am curious as to what age did you find out that your son is autistic because

he is extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed

him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Actually my son is 27 months and was diagnosed with autism couple of months ago.

The symptoms: Flapping his hands when he is excited, at the daycare prefers to

play alone, does not speak, and visual stimulation (looks from corner of his

eyes sometimes, specially to those items which have parallel lines patterns). He

is very well connected to his immediate family and as I said had a relatively

good receptive language.

Benetta <benettamorgan@...> wrote: I am curious as to

what age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is extremely

young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'm not understanding how children so young can have an accurate diagnosis of

Autism,especially with a trait like flapping hands when excited. So what if a

child prefers to play alone, alot of children don't start to really develop

friendships and really enjoy playing with other kids until after the age of 5.

And what's this looking out of the corner of the eye thing, that's something

I've read in many e-mails here,but I didn't know and never read it in the

literature on Autism.

Benetta

<dialaxi23@...> wrote:

Actually my son is 27 months and was diagnosed with autism couple of

months ago. The symptoms: Flapping his hands when he is excited, at the daycare

prefers to play alone, does not speak, and visual stimulation (looks from corner

of his eyes sometimes, specially to those items which have parallel lines

patterns). He is very well connected to his immediate family and as I said had a

relatively good receptive language.

Benetta <benettamorgan@...> wrote: I am curious as to what age did

you find out that your son is autistic because he is extremely young now. Was it

a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to hear that others feel the same as I re: this subject.

The school system tried to tell me my child was autistic because of

his expressive language delay and the fact that he is a picky eater

(I did not listen or accept that). He's 3! These are the same

people who told me, " apraxia is not a neurological disorder " . My

cousin's typically developing 4 year old eats fewer things than my

son (heck, my husband eats fewer things than my son) AND he spends a

lot of time lining up his toys - something that my son has rarely

done. I understand that to be just a lower level of play (sorting,

grouping) but in today's society lining up toys equals autism. In

the ages and stages (ages 3-5) section of the June 2006 Parenting

magazine it addressed lining up toys as a normal function of

development during that age group. Now, I know that Parenting

magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but it would be

pretty irresponsible to print such information if lining up toys only

indicated a problem.

Hand flapping is a sensory (proprioceptive) response to try to calm a

child down in an excited state. So is toe walking and many other

behaviors including jumping up and down. No one has ever created a

stir over jumping up and down when excited! And the visual

stimulation is sensory as well (if you've read The Out of Sync Child

and Sensational Kids that might be familiar). Expressive speech

delay plus sensory issues does not always equal autism.

I've done as much research on typical development as I have on

apraxia, sensory integration and autism and I find that the range of

development for each age group is so broad that it is impossible

to " standardize " a child. Sure, if your gut is telling you that your

child may be autistic, then by all means find all the help you can

get. But likewise, if your gut is telling you it may not be autism

(like mine is), then do whatever you have the means to do to make

sure all possibilities are explored before accepting a diagnosis that

you feel may be wrong.

I am curious as to what

age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

diagnosed him?

> My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very

often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also spell

his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from a

year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his

hand all the way through this.

>

> Benetta

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Looking out of the corner of the eye while running along a fence or

observing other patterns is considered a form of visual self-

stimulation (aka eye stimming). You often see self-stimulation in

autistic kids, but you can see it in non-autistic kids too. About

playing with other kids, my my two and a half yr old son is in

a " normal " preschool and what I see when I look in the window is

that the girls do play together somewhat, but none of the boys

really do at all, unless random tackling or swiping toys is

considered playing together. While my son doesn't exactly play with

other kids, he is interested in them, does what they're doing,

gravitates towards them and interacts somewhat. I think you have to

look for the desire for social interaction because if your child is

speech delayed then he or she will have a handicapp when trying to

engage socially. You really have to pay attention to the why behind

the behavior.

I am curious as to what

age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

diagnosed him?

> My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very

often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also spell

his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from a

year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold

his hand all the way through this.

>

> Benetta

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

When Landon was around 19 months old, a lot of family thought he

could be autistic. Didn't respond to his name when called, didn't

really play with other kids (stood on the sidelines), scared of loud

noises to the point of running from them, lined up his match box

cars, etc. These were the symptoms the family members based their

opinions on. I read the Late talker, researched apraxia, found out

that sensory integration overlapped in both apraxia and autism. Two

really good books I read was The Out of Sinc Child and Raising a

Sensory Smart Child. All of the above symptoms are in the books I

just mentioned for sensory integration dysfunction. When I took him

to the neuroligist at 27 months old, her questions to me to rule out

autism were: Does he fixate on a certain part of a toy (spinning

wheels of cars instead of pretending to drive the car). Does he

pretend to drive the cars? Does he make car noises? Does he pretend

to park them in a garage? At 27 months old he did play with them

along with parking them and lining them up. Socially he wasn't even

looked at. The doctor came in the room and Landon started to try to

talk to her. There was a lot of questions to rule out autism. I

just googled autism symptoms

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/autism/symptoms.htm There is tons of

information and parent friendly autism test on the internet. If you

as a parent can weed out the sensory integration issues, language

issues and just focus on the symptoms of austism that don't overlap

apraxia, you as a parent should know in your gut what the answer is.

It takes a lot of reading to weed out the things that overlap, but it

is such a great feeling when you finally have answers.

Tina

I am curious as to what

> age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

> extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

> diagnosed him?

> > My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

> receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

> whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

> neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

> behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

> Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

> always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

> maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

> forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but

very

> often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

> understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also

spell

> his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from

a

> year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

> here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold

> his hand all the way through this.

> >

> > Benetta

> >

> > Hi

> > My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has

not

> > added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> > autistic.

> > Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

> to

> > talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

> with

> > him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> > suggestion?

> > Thanks

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm not understanding how children so young can have an accurate diagnosis of

Autism,especially with a trait like flapping hands when excited. So what if a

child prefers to play alone, alot of children don't start to really develop

friendships and really enjoy playing with other kids until after the age of 5.

And what's this looking out of the corner of the eye thing, that's something

I've read in many e-mails here,but I didn't know and never read it in the

literature on Autism.

Benetta

<dialaxi23@...> wrote:

Actually my son is 27 months and was diagnosed with autism couple of

months ago. The symptoms: Flapping his hands when he is excited, at the daycare

prefers to play alone, does not speak, and visual stimulation (looks from corner

of his eyes sometimes, specially to those items which have parallel lines

patterns). He is very well connected to his immediate family and as I said had a

relatively good receptive language.

Benetta <benettamorgan@...> wrote: I am curious as to what age did

you find out that your son is autistic because he is extremely young now. Was it

a developmental pediatrician, or who diagnosed him?

My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe receptive/expressive

language disorder, and I often questioned whether he could be mildly

autistic,but it has been r/o by a neurologist and a couple of speech

pathologist. What type of behaviors does your son have to prove that he is

mildly autistic? Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were

not always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100, maybe

more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is forming sentences.

He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very often not clear. There are a

lot of words that you can definitely understand. He can spell his name,which is

Pierce. He can also spell his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of

progress from a year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I

am here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his hand

all the way through this.

Benetta

Hi

My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

autistic.

Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

suggestion?

Thanks

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to hear that others feel the same as I re: this subject.

The school system tried to tell me my child was autistic because of

his expressive language delay and the fact that he is a picky eater

(I did not listen or accept that). He's 3! These are the same

people who told me, " apraxia is not a neurological disorder " . My

cousin's typically developing 4 year old eats fewer things than my

son (heck, my husband eats fewer things than my son) AND he spends a

lot of time lining up his toys - something that my son has rarely

done. I understand that to be just a lower level of play (sorting,

grouping) but in today's society lining up toys equals autism. In

the ages and stages (ages 3-5) section of the June 2006 Parenting

magazine it addressed lining up toys as a normal function of

development during that age group. Now, I know that Parenting

magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but it would be

pretty irresponsible to print such information if lining up toys only

indicated a problem.

Hand flapping is a sensory (proprioceptive) response to try to calm a

child down in an excited state. So is toe walking and many other

behaviors including jumping up and down. No one has ever created a

stir over jumping up and down when excited! And the visual

stimulation is sensory as well (if you've read The Out of Sync Child

and Sensational Kids that might be familiar). Expressive speech

delay plus sensory issues does not always equal autism.

I've done as much research on typical development as I have on

apraxia, sensory integration and autism and I find that the range of

development for each age group is so broad that it is impossible

to " standardize " a child. Sure, if your gut is telling you that your

child may be autistic, then by all means find all the help you can

get. But likewise, if your gut is telling you it may not be autism

(like mine is), then do whatever you have the means to do to make

sure all possibilities are explored before accepting a diagnosis that

you feel may be wrong.

I am curious as to what

age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

diagnosed him?

> My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very

often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also spell

his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from a

year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold his

hand all the way through this.

>

> Benetta

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Looking out of the corner of the eye while running along a fence or

observing other patterns is considered a form of visual self-

stimulation (aka eye stimming). You often see self-stimulation in

autistic kids, but you can see it in non-autistic kids too. About

playing with other kids, my my two and a half yr old son is in

a " normal " preschool and what I see when I look in the window is

that the girls do play together somewhat, but none of the boys

really do at all, unless random tackling or swiping toys is

considered playing together. While my son doesn't exactly play with

other kids, he is interested in them, does what they're doing,

gravitates towards them and interacts somewhat. I think you have to

look for the desire for social interaction because if your child is

speech delayed then he or she will have a handicapp when trying to

engage socially. You really have to pay attention to the why behind

the behavior.

I am curious as to what

age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

diagnosed him?

> My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but very

often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also spell

his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from a

year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold

his hand all the way through this.

>

> Benetta

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I would first try carnosine (carnaware.com) and essential GSH from

wellnesshealth.com. These really, really helped my daughter, who had

both ASD and apraxia.

Could you say more about what you mean by mild autism? This means

wildly different things to different people.

My other recommendations are to do ABA and medical intervention with a

Dan doctor. Fixing your child's nutritional deficiencies may have a

dramatic effect.

good luck

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

I would first try carnosine (carnaware.com) and essential GSH from

wellnesshealth.com. These really, really helped my daughter, who had

both ASD and apraxia.

Could you say more about what you mean by mild autism? This means

wildly different things to different people.

My other recommendations are to do ABA and medical intervention with a

Dan doctor. Fixing your child's nutritional deficiencies may have a

dramatic effect.

good luck

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

You have to consider whether or not you trust the expert who diagnosed

your child. If you don't, get a second opinion. This is too

emotionally laden an issue for you to be objective - get another

expert opinion. It is hard to avoid a denial stage that can consume

time your child could be getting better treatment.

If your child is diagnosed with autism, then (s)he is showing symptoms

of more than apraxia (going by the diagnostic criteria, not the things

that are considered somewhat common in children with autism). Look at

the CHAT screen online - there is now an extended version also. Look

at the research on the CHAT's accuracy as well. There is a great risk

in ignoring a dx of autism, particularly at a young age like 2 or 2

1/2. It was a great blessing for my daughter that she was diagnosed so

young. She wasn't severe when diagnosed, but I have seen lots of

children who had mild ASD at 2 (when a lot of people will reassure you

that your child is fine, including peds) become more severely affected

as they grew older (this is very common, actually). Do you want to

wait for dx at a time when it is patently obvious to everyone that

your child has autism?

With early diagnosis, recovery is possible, not guaranteed but

possible. Learning and change come so much more easily for a younger

child. At diagnosis, my daughter was more severe than my son was at

dx, but my daughter was 2 years younger. She is now recovered, and my

son is not. My son is doing well, but not recovered. He has mild

autism, but that is enough. Not easy to deal with!

If you act as if the diagnosis is accurate, and get intensive therapy

and nutritional intervention for your young child, all you have to

lose if the dx is wrong is some time and money. If the dx is right and

you don't act, there is a lot at stake and a potentially life-long

impact on your child.

Realize that when you are talking to parents that this issue of dx

almost always involves a lot of emotion. Invest your energy now in

doing everything possible for your child while he is so young. Later

you can debate whether or not the dx was correct, when he is doing

awesome .

In , <dialaxi23@...> wrote:

>

> My son was diagnosed with autism based on ADI-R and ADOS. So when I

said he was mildly autistic, it was not because he has the signs I

mentioned in my previous post (Hand flapping, looking from corner of

his eyes,no speech...) but it was due to the fact that he has been

formally diagnosed by an expert. I do not know if ADOS and ADI-R can

mislead and have wrong results. I hope they can and my son is not

really autistic, but for now I assume he has autism.

> Based on what we were told at the evaluation session, 3 factors

are considered to label a kid autistic:

> -lack of language and communication skills

> -Sensory simulations and repetitive actions

> -lack of social interactions

> What we saw during the 15-20 minutes of ADOS, which is play based,

did not reveal any clue about social interactions. It was 2 PM, his

nap time, he was very tired so that after the ADOS he fell down sleep

in his mom's lap...I assume social interaction factor was mainly

> concluded based on ADI-R which is a parent's based questioner.

> fkewatson <kwatsoneei@...> wrote:

> I'm glad to hear that others feel the same as I re: this

subject.

> The school system tried to tell me my child was autistic because of

> his expressive language delay and the fact that he is a picky eater

> (I did not listen or accept that). He's 3! These are the same

> people who told me, " apraxia is not a neurological disorder " . My

> cousin's typically developing 4 year old eats fewer things than my

> son (heck, my husband eats fewer things than my son) AND he spends a

> lot of time lining up his toys - something that my son has rarely

> done. I understand that to be just a lower level of play (sorting,

> grouping) but in today's society lining up toys equals autism. In

> the ages and stages (ages 3-5) section of the June 2006 Parenting

> magazine it addressed lining up toys as a normal function of

> development during that age group. Now, I know that Parenting

> magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but it would be

> pretty irresponsible to print such information if lining up toys only

> indicated a problem.

>

> Hand flapping is a sensory (proprioceptive) response to try to calm a

> child down in an excited state. So is toe walking and many other

> behaviors including jumping up and down. No one has ever created a

> stir over jumping up and down when excited! And the visual

> stimulation is sensory as well (if you've read The Out of Sync Child

> and Sensational Kids that might be familiar). Expressive speech

> delay plus sensory issues does not always equal autism.

>

> I've done as much research on typical development as I have on

> apraxia, sensory integration and autism and I find that the range of

> development for each age group is so broad that it is impossible

> to " standardize " a child. Sure, if your gut is telling you that your

> child may be autistic, then by all means find all the help you can

> get. But likewise, if your gut is telling you it may not be autism

> (like mine is), then do whatever you have the means to do to make

> sure all possibilities are explored before accepting a diagnosis that

> you feel may be wrong.

>

[Guest guest]

When Landon was around 19 months old, a lot of family thought he

could be autistic. Didn't respond to his name when called, didn't

really play with other kids (stood on the sidelines), scared of loud

noises to the point of running from them, lined up his match box

cars, etc. These were the symptoms the family members based their

opinions on. I read the Late talker, researched apraxia, found out

that sensory integration overlapped in both apraxia and autism. Two

really good books I read was The Out of Sinc Child and Raising a

Sensory Smart Child. All of the above symptoms are in the books I

just mentioned for sensory integration dysfunction. When I took him

to the neuroligist at 27 months old, her questions to me to rule out

autism were: Does he fixate on a certain part of a toy (spinning

wheels of cars instead of pretending to drive the car). Does he

pretend to drive the cars? Does he make car noises? Does he pretend

to park them in a garage? At 27 months old he did play with them

along with parking them and lining them up. Socially he wasn't even

looked at. The doctor came in the room and Landon started to try to

talk to her. There was a lot of questions to rule out autism. I

just googled autism symptoms

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/autism/symptoms.htm There is tons of

information and parent friendly autism test on the internet. If you

as a parent can weed out the sensory integration issues, language

issues and just focus on the symptoms of austism that don't overlap

apraxia, you as a parent should know in your gut what the answer is.

It takes a lot of reading to weed out the things that overlap, but it

is such a great feeling when you finally have answers.

Tina

I am curious as to what

> age did you find out that your son is autistic because he is

> extremely young now. Was it a developmental pediatrician, or who

> diagnosed him?

> > My son was diagnosed a year and a half ago with a severe

> receptive/expressive language disorder, and I often questioned

> whether he could be mildly autistic,but it has been r/o by a

> neurologist and a couple of speech pathologist. What type of

> behaviors does your son have to prove that he is mildly autistic?

> Does he say anything? My son probably had 4-6 words that were not

> always understood. He is 4yrs2mos and he can say a little over 100,

> maybe more, I really don't keep an accurate count. His probably is

> forming sentences. He's trying to string 3-4 words together,but

very

> often not clear. There are a lot of words that you can definitely

> understand. He can spell his name,which is Pierce. He can also

spell

> his sister's name,which is Jada. He has made alot of progress from

a

> year ago, and from even 6mos ago. He has a long way to go, but I am

> here and God willing will continue to still be here and will hold

> his hand all the way through this.

> >

> > Benetta

> >

> > Hi

> > My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has

not

> > added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> > autistic.

> > Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him

> to

> > talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words "

> with

> > him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> > suggestion?

> > Thanks

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

i tnink he will keep inproving day by day.......

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[Guest guest]

I would first try carnosine (carnaware.com) and essential GSH from

wellnesshealth.com. These really, really helped my daughter, who had

both ASD and apraxia.

Could you say more about what you mean by mild autism? This means

wildly different things to different people.

My other recommendations are to do ABA and medical intervention with a

Dan doctor. Fixing your child's nutritional deficiencies may have a

dramatic effect.

good luck

>

> Hi

> My son's receptive language is progressing very well but he has not

> added up to the 4 words he was able to say. He is 2.5 and mildly

> autistic.

> Could anybody give some piece of advice to what to do to help him to

> talk. I am doing some works based on the book " More than words " with

> him, but he seems has not taken off in his speaking yet. Any other

> suggestion?

> Thanks

>