Re: Denial of Speech for Apraxia ---IEP on Tuesday

[Guest guest]

There were some great links in a post in this group about language

development in children adopted internationally. I tried to create a

link to this information (actually it is my response to the original

post but scroll a bit and the post is there). If the link does not

work do a search on international adoption and you should be able to

find it. I think these sights should help you with where you child

should be with language acquisition after 20 months. Good luck!

/message/4914

1

>

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

> independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

> school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

> spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was

adopted

> 20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all

she " needs

> is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc.

are " normal

> for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

> babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few

words a

> mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

> hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is

due

> to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability

has

> been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also

has

> oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

>

> Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

> little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

> words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family.

She

> has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

> and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

> yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

> decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a

chipping

> away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

> Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

>

[Guest guest]

Have you taken her to a neuro yet to get an official diagnosis (or a

developmental pediatrician)? The more documentation you have that it

is apraxia and not ESL issues may help to promote your position and

contradict hers.

Kris

On Dec 2, 2006, at 4:44 PM, metazorro wrote:

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the fact that you are providing private speech therapy should help your

argument. It is the school's responsibility to provide services at age 3yrs.

Part of your argument should be that she is where she is because of your prv

speech therapy. You have an independent eval as well confirming this.

I don't know enought about ESL either, but schools do need to support this as

well I just don't know to what degree. My thougths are if your child cannot

understand/particpate in the curriculum then they cannot " access the curriculum "

and speech serv. are needed to address speech issues and perhaps pragmatic

language issues as well. Are there other aspects of school you feel your child

struggles with? Is she in preschoool or at home?

If she is at a private preschool, you could also ask for input from those

teachers as to her communication limitations. Do you have a pediatrician who

can write a letter backing up the ind. eval?

Can you bring your SLP eval to the meeting with school? You can still get

other independent testing outside the school to confirm but this does take time

and often money if your insurance doesn't cover it (like a neuropsyche). Have

you had her hearing tested as part of the SLP eval?

You can also reject the school's offering if you feel you have good

recommendations and know your child needs these services. Don't give up.

Obviously best if school anad you can work together but if they are not

acknowleging your child's need, stick with it and follow the regulations and

timetables that your state Dept Of Educ. website should list out for getting

support services.

Hope this helps. You will be a strong advocate for your daughter. She will

do well.

k

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP

[Guest guest]

There were some great links in a post in this group about language

development in children adopted internationally. I tried to create a

link to this information (actually it is my response to the original

post but scroll a bit and the post is there). If the link does not

work do a search on international adoption and you should be able to

find it. I think these sights should help you with where you child

should be with language acquisition after 20 months. Good luck!

/message/4914

1

>

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

> independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

> school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

> spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was

adopted

> 20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all

she " needs

> is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc.

are " normal

> for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

> babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few

words a

> mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

> hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is

due

> to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability

has

> been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also

has

> oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

>

> Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

> little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

> words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family.

She

> has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

> and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

> yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

> decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a

chipping

> away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

> Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

>

[Guest guest]

Have you taken her to a neuro yet to get an official diagnosis (or a

developmental pediatrician)? The more documentation you have that it

is apraxia and not ESL issues may help to promote your position and

contradict hers.

Kris

On Dec 2, 2006, at 4:44 PM, metazorro wrote:

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

[Guest guest]

Metazorro,

Some states actually use the environmentally deprived label to deny services

to kids adopted out of diverse circumstances and other language kids. Quite

dirty and I question the legality of it since the SST process was developed for

the sole purpose of keeping this from happening back in the day...

They are being quite clever using the speech issue and the language issue

against each other (or rather to cancel each other out).

Why don't you go through the back door and seek evals through a neurologist

for other issues, including a neuropsych eval. They can refer you for one

through a letter of medical necessity. Have you had an OT eval done for sensory

integration issues? I have read that kids adopted from foreign countries after

the first few months of life have extremely high chances of suffering in all

areas of sensory integration. Remember you may not be able to see that anything

at all is going on " sensorily " . A trained professional will recognize nuances

that aren't evident to the layman. Just as core strenghtening is important in

yoga and pilates....think of sensory issues as the core of the neurological

processing. Get that in order and many other things fall into place, including

language. It is believed according to more recent studies that at least 1 in 14

kids have sensory integration issues. (They believe more have but they only

took from a pool of kids that were already

in services for various issues - not total mainstream kids who may not have

been identified with issues).

So chances are quite high that seeking this eval will bring results. This can

also open the door for insurance coverage of speech that may not be covered for

the apraxia in some cases. (different codes). Also, like I said - the back

door with the schools.

If you can support her need for speech services as secondary to another

medical issue (one that would be an issue whether she was chinese background or

otherwise) then you can still get her needs met and the school can never again

use language as an issue.

Another route to try is to contact your state advocacy office for

disabilities. Every state has one provided with federal funds. You can attack

it through the educational department of the agency and the discrimination

route. Perhaps a phone call from a staff attorney would be helpful.

Brigett

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was adopted

20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all she " needs

is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc. are " normal

for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few words a

mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is due

to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability has

been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also has

oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family. She

has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a chipping

away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the fact that you are providing private speech therapy should help your

argument. It is the school's responsibility to provide services at age 3yrs.

Part of your argument should be that she is where she is because of your prv

speech therapy. You have an independent eval as well confirming this.

I don't know enought about ESL either, but schools do need to support this as

well I just don't know to what degree. My thougths are if your child cannot

understand/particpate in the curriculum then they cannot " access the curriculum "

and speech serv. are needed to address speech issues and perhaps pragmatic

language issues as well. Are there other aspects of school you feel your child

struggles with? Is she in preschoool or at home?

If she is at a private preschool, you could also ask for input from those

teachers as to her communication limitations. Do you have a pediatrician who

can write a letter backing up the ind. eval?

Can you bring your SLP eval to the meeting with school? You can still get

other independent testing outside the school to confirm but this does take time

and often money if your insurance doesn't cover it (like a neuropsyche). Have

you had her hearing tested as part of the SLP eval?

You can also reject the school's offering if you feel you have good

recommendations and know your child needs these services. Don't give up.

Obviously best if school anad you can work together but if they are not

acknowleging your child's need, stick with it and follow the regulations and

timetables that your state Dept Of Educ. website should list out for getting

support services.

Hope this helps. You will be a strong advocate for your daughter. She will

do well.

k

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP

[Guest guest]

Metazorro,

Some states actually use the environmentally deprived label to deny services

to kids adopted out of diverse circumstances and other language kids. Quite

dirty and I question the legality of it since the SST process was developed for

the sole purpose of keeping this from happening back in the day...

They are being quite clever using the speech issue and the language issue

against each other (or rather to cancel each other out).

Why don't you go through the back door and seek evals through a neurologist

for other issues, including a neuropsych eval. They can refer you for one

through a letter of medical necessity. Have you had an OT eval done for sensory

integration issues? I have read that kids adopted from foreign countries after

the first few months of life have extremely high chances of suffering in all

areas of sensory integration. Remember you may not be able to see that anything

at all is going on " sensorily " . A trained professional will recognize nuances

that aren't evident to the layman. Just as core strenghtening is important in

yoga and pilates....think of sensory issues as the core of the neurological

processing. Get that in order and many other things fall into place, including

language. It is believed according to more recent studies that at least 1 in 14

kids have sensory integration issues. (They believe more have but they only

took from a pool of kids that were already

in services for various issues - not total mainstream kids who may not have

been identified with issues).

So chances are quite high that seeking this eval will bring results. This can

also open the door for insurance coverage of speech that may not be covered for

the apraxia in some cases. (different codes). Also, like I said - the back

door with the schools.

If you can support her need for speech services as secondary to another

medical issue (one that would be an issue whether she was chinese background or

otherwise) then you can still get her needs met and the school can never again

use language as an issue.

Another route to try is to contact your state advocacy office for

disabilities. Every state has one provided with federal funds. You can attack

it through the educational department of the agency and the discrimination

route. Perhaps a phone call from a staff attorney would be helpful.

Brigett

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was adopted

20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all she " needs

is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc. are " normal

for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few words a

mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is due

to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability has

been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also has

oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family. She

has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a chipping

away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

[Guest guest]

Please do google search on language development of internationally adopted

children. Sharon Glennen a speech language pathologist at Towson University has

written extensively on language development of internationally adopted children.

Her research can be found at http://pages.towson.edu/sglennen/index. Or put

internationally adopted eastern europe in google search. The articles talk about

substractive language of children adopted from other countries and the term

refers to the fact that these children are not considered ESL because their

first language is usually stopped as they learn their second language.

Pollock another SLP has done research on children adopted from China. If you put

Pollock language development China in a google search you will get this

information. I use this information when I am completing a speech-language

evaluation on children from international adoptions.

MW

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was adopted

20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all she " needs

is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc. are " normal

for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few words a

mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is due

to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability has

been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also has

oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family. She

has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a chipping

away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Please do google search on language development of internationally adopted

children. Sharon Glennen a speech language pathologist at Towson University has

written extensively on language development of internationally adopted children.

Her research can be found at http://pages.towson.edu/sglennen/index. Or put

internationally adopted eastern europe in google search. The articles talk about

substractive language of children adopted from other countries and the term

refers to the fact that these children are not considered ESL because their

first language is usually stopped as they learn their second language.

Pollock another SLP has done research on children adopted from China. If you put

Pollock language development China in a google search you will get this

information. I use this information when I am completing a speech-language

evaluation on children from international adoptions.

MW

metazorro <inamvh@...> wrote:

My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was adopted

20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all she " needs

is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc. are " normal

for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few words a

mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is due

to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability has

been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also has

oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family. She

has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a chipping

away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Ina,

Don't give up! I just went through the exact same thing with my

youngest daughter, adopted from China almost 2 years ago. She was

13 months at adoption, and now is about to turn 3. We also had 3

moves to different states to further complicate the issue. So, with

each move, it was starting the battle anew. We also had paid for

private speech therapy, where the SLP suggested apraxia, but the

state program said she was still learning the lanuguage (at 27

months and again at 33 months).

Now we have moved again (to VA) and I went to the office with

detailed descriptions of what I have done so far (private speech

therapy, letters from her preschool teacher, including what I have

done working with my daughter at home and supplements, etc.). I

basically was not going to give up, and our daughter was just

approved for services! Finally!

Feel free to email me privately at mommydowd @ . com (remove

spaces). Best of luck!

Suzanne

>

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

> independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

> school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

> spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was

adopted

> 20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all

she " needs

> is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc.

are " normal

> for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

> babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few

words a

> mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

> hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is

due

> to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability

has

> been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also

has

> oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

>

> Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

> little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

> words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family.

She

> has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

> and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

> yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

> decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a

chipping

> away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

> Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

>

[Guest guest]

Ina,

Don't give up! I just went through the exact same thing with my

youngest daughter, adopted from China almost 2 years ago. She was

13 months at adoption, and now is about to turn 3. We also had 3

moves to different states to further complicate the issue. So, with

each move, it was starting the battle anew. We also had paid for

private speech therapy, where the SLP suggested apraxia, but the

state program said she was still learning the lanuguage (at 27

months and again at 33 months).

Now we have moved again (to VA) and I went to the office with

detailed descriptions of what I have done so far (private speech

therapy, letters from her preschool teacher, including what I have

done working with my daughter at home and supplements, etc.). I

basically was not going to give up, and our daughter was just

approved for services! Finally!

Feel free to email me privately at mommydowd @ . com (remove

spaces). Best of luck!

Suzanne

>

> My 3rd daughter has been diagnosed with Moderate Verbal Apraxia by

> independent SLP, and " normal " for age (turns 4 this month) by the

> school SLP who now want to deny her the 1:1 speech services in her

> spec. ed class. The School SLP is stating that since she was

adopted

> 20 mo. ago at age 27mo, English is her 2nd language and all

she " needs

> is time " being an ESL learner, and her sound errors, etc.

are " normal

> for children her age " . This despite that she was inconsistently

> babbled for the first 9 mo., and thereafter gained only a few

words a

> mo....with daily speech by myself doing articulation drills and 2

> hours/wk of private. She is making nice gains but every sound is

due

> to hundreds if not thousands of repetitions. Her receptive ability

has

> been excellent for 12-14 months. Hearing, etc. is normal. She also

has

> oromotor defensiveness, which has greatly improved.

>

> Can someone please help me counter their arguments.??? I know so

> little of ESL and can't believe that she would be speaking only 1-2

> words at a time at age 4 after 20 months living in our family.

She

> has 2 sisters, also adoped who are 5 and 7, we read tons of books

> and provide a verbally rich environment. Got their " speech eval "

> yesterday and was just stunned...so I know they are going to

> decrease/deny her services. Every IEP meeting seems to be a

chipping

> away of what she requires to speak. Thank you,

> Ina, mom to 3 wonderful girls from China

>

[Guest guest]

What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

----- Original Message -----

From: Suzanne Dowd

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

[Guest guest]

I love burg! We just moved to Fairfax.

Suzanne

-- In , " Gene and Aggie Birocco "

<birocco@...> wrote:

>

> What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Suzanne Dowd

>

> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

----- Original Message -----

From: Suzanne Dowd

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

[Guest guest]

I love burg! We just moved to Fairfax.

Suzanne

-- In , " Gene and Aggie Birocco "

<birocco@...> wrote:

>

> What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Suzanne Dowd

>

> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can email me privately if you want. birocco@... My grandson doesn't

have a diagnosis of apraxia...the school system didn't even evaluate him. The

speech pathologist said he didn't need therapy...however nobody can understand

him unless you know exactly what he is talking about. She had observed him in a

group session that she had with another child in his class and I guess that day

his articulation was ok. He is 2.10 and in the special ed preschool for global

developmental delays. He is getting OT for sensory problems from the school

system and today he had an evaluation at the local childrens hospital for OT.

He will have a speech evaluation on the 19th. I'm hoping that if the hospital

qualifies him for therapy, the school will too....but I don't know. Our EI

facilitator said that they may need to be 50% delayed to qualify. He is only 33%

delayed according to EI. I would think that with a specific diagnosis you

should qualify but I am just learning about this stuff. Good luck getting them

to see it your way. Aggie

[ ] Re: Denial of Speech for Apraxia ---IEP on

Tuesday

I love burg! We just moved to Fairfax.

Suzanne

-- In , " Gene and Aggie Birocco "

<birocco@...> wrote:

>

> What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Suzanne Dowd

>

> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can email me privately if you want. birocco@... My grandson doesn't

have a diagnosis of apraxia...the school system didn't even evaluate him. The

speech pathologist said he didn't need therapy...however nobody can understand

him unless you know exactly what he is talking about. She had observed him in a

group session that she had with another child in his class and I guess that day

his articulation was ok. He is 2.10 and in the special ed preschool for global

developmental delays. He is getting OT for sensory problems from the school

system and today he had an evaluation at the local childrens hospital for OT.

He will have a speech evaluation on the 19th. I'm hoping that if the hospital

qualifies him for therapy, the school will too....but I don't know. Our EI

facilitator said that they may need to be 50% delayed to qualify. He is only 33%

delayed according to EI. I would think that with a specific diagnosis you

should qualify but I am just learning about this stuff. Good luck getting them

to see it your way. Aggie

[ ] Re: Denial of Speech for Apraxia ---IEP on

Tuesday

I love burg! We just moved to Fairfax.

Suzanne

-- In , " Gene and Aggie Birocco "

<birocco@...> wrote:

>

> What part of VA are you from? I am from burg. Aggie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Suzanne Dowd

>

> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:24 AM

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to thank and Suzanne for their great replies to my 'crisis " .

Worked furiously to gather all the research articles I could for the IEP

meeting. The school district speech therapist reported that (my 3 going on

4) daughterr showed no apraxia in the 45 min testing she did and spoke

HUNDREDS of words at 80% intelligibility and was making articulation

errors consistent with her age group. She admitted she did not

administer the test she reported on (the home school SLP did a session and

she observed)at the meeting. Both my private speech therapists attended and

were appalled she would write a report implying she did the testing and

that one couldn't do a competent Apraxia exam in a 45 min session in a

crowded classroom. I played a 2 min tape recording of our daughter we did

the previous night and asked how many in the room could make out

80%.....silence!. When we raised some of these objections, we were hurried

along and it was the ESL person with " 19 yrs of experience " who then steered

the " team " to the conclusion it must be because she is a 2nd language

learner. Never would entertain or even look at the articles I gave

her.....another " educated closed mind " . We kept our services is the

bottom line, but know it is not the end.....expect they will try and wheedle

down in a couple of months. Just exhausting!

Lily is showing great improvement now that I have private & competent SLP

and do the articulation drills with her daily......and we may lose services

since she actually said " I see palm tree " yesterday!!! I was thrilled.

Wishing you all a very joyous and healthy Holiday Season,

Ina

mom to 3 " angels " from China

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I wanted to thank and Suzanne for their great replies to my 'crisis " .

Worked furiously to gather all the research articles I could for the IEP

meeting. The school district speech therapist reported that (my 3 going on

4) daughterr showed no apraxia in the 45 min testing she did and spoke

HUNDREDS of words at 80% intelligibility and was making articulation

errors consistent with her age group. She admitted she did not

administer the test she reported on (the home school SLP did a session and

she observed)at the meeting. Both my private speech therapists attended and

were appalled she would write a report implying she did the testing and

that one couldn't do a competent Apraxia exam in a 45 min session in a

crowded classroom. I played a 2 min tape recording of our daughter we did

the previous night and asked how many in the room could make out

80%.....silence!. When we raised some of these objections, we were hurried

along and it was the ESL person with " 19 yrs of experience " who then steered

the " team " to the conclusion it must be because she is a 2nd language

learner. Never would entertain or even look at the articles I gave

her.....another " educated closed mind " . We kept our services is the

bottom line, but know it is not the end.....expect they will try and wheedle

down in a couple of months. Just exhausting!

Lily is showing great improvement now that I have private & competent SLP

and do the articulation drills with her daily......and we may lose services

since she actually said " I see palm tree " yesterday!!! I was thrilled.

Wishing you all a very joyous and healthy Holiday Season,

Ina

mom to 3 " angels " from China

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