Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am new to the group and I also have been reading all your 'vest messages'.

I am from

the UK and have heard that the Vest System is now available in Europe. My

son Ross has Cystic Fibrosis aged 4 weight 20 kilos. I have already visited

the vest e-mail

site www.the.vest.com.

The NHS here will not provide at the moment the money for this equipment so

at present I am trying to organise a fund-raising event to help us purchase

a vest for my son. It would be great if I could have as much information on

the vest so I can pass this on to the ones that will help me raise the money

required to purchase one.

How much do they cost?

What about servicing them?

Would my son's doctor have to get involved by issuing a prescription for one

of these?

Thanks.

Tina Cameron

The Vest - Randy

>

>

> Torsten of this cf parents group posted the info about the vest being

> available in Europe. As soon as I get a minute I will visit the site

again

> as I have done so before it was available in UK but it was not much use

> then.

>

> I do not think many of us here in UK will be able to afford this product

and

> our National Health Service will take for ever to come to a decision about

> who if any will be allowed them for free.

>

> Is there any way we can set up some form of Hire Purchase (don't know if

> thats what you call it in US) so that we can still buy them if we want to.

>

> My grand daughter (Shelby) is too young at the moment only 14 months but

it

> is something I know will help her mother later. Her mother (Louise)

suffers

> from tendonitus and I have wrist and elbow problems so her CPT is getting

> painful for the both of us at times. Which ever one is not hurting at the

> moment has to do it whilst the other one gets a rest.

>

> Hopefully by the time Shelby is older our NHS may have come to some

decision

> - but that will not help those people who need it NOW.

>

> Luv Grandma Maggs

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

please let us know what info you manage to find. Our daighter is only 1 but

it's always good to know what the future options are!

Thanks

Kate (in Cheshire)

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

Hi,

I am new to the group and I also have been reading all your 'vest messages'.

I am from

the UK and have heard that the Vest System is now available in Europe. My

son Ross has Cystic Fibrosis aged 4 weight 20 kilos. I have already visited

the vest e-mail

site www.the.vest.com.

The NHS here will not provide at the moment the money for this equipment so

at present I am trying to organise a fund-raising event to help us purchase

a vest for my son. It would be great if I could have as much information on

the vest so I can pass this on to the ones that will help me raise the money

required to purchase one.

How much do they cost?

What about servicing them?

Would my son's doctor have to get involved by issuing a prescription for one

of these?

Thanks.

Tina Cameron

The Vest - Randy

>

>

> Torsten of this cf parents group posted the info about the vest being

> available in Europe. As soon as I get a minute I will visit the site

again

> as I have done so before it was available in UK but it was not much use

> then.

>

> I do not think many of us here in UK will be able to afford this product

and

> our National Health Service will take for ever to come to a decision about

> who if any will be allowed them for free.

>

> Is there any way we can set up some form of Hire Purchase (don't know if

> thats what you call it in US) so that we can still buy them if we want to.

>

> My grand daughter (Shelby) is too young at the moment only 14 months but

it

> is something I know will help her mother later. Her mother (Louise)

suffers

> from tendonitus and I have wrist and elbow problems so her CPT is getting

> painful for the both of us at times. Which ever one is not hurting at the

> moment has to do it whilst the other one gets a rest.

>

> Hopefully by the time Shelby is older our NHS may have come to some

decision

> - but that will not help those people who need it NOW.

>

> Luv Grandma Maggs

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WELCOME to the list. It is wonderful.

The VEST. It too is wonderful for most.

The price in Europe, you will have to check there. I am sure it will be

different .

Here it is $12,000.00... But that is cheaper(for a year) than having

someone come to do, or yourself .& they aren't as consistent as the

vest is. ANYONE can do their own treatments better with it . It also

saves parents energy & time as well. They service it for you , as well

as train you .there isn't anything to trading tho-that's funny. The vest

goes on as any vest would.Velco shut to fit person..........attract

tubes to front holes(:). Turn on .You do the settings as you would any

machine. Higher numbers -faster, lower numbers... slower....The doc will

tell you which to use .& when to speed it up .

In USA it required a doctors prescription .all DME does. But I don't

know what your laws are there. They are different in different countries

I am told , even thru-out Europe, they are not the same. You will need

to go to the European site and /or call them .I am sure your clinic will

have that info also. -I hope so.

I hope you are successful in attaining it for your family

Again, WELCOME

LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

Hi,

I am new to the group and I also have been reading all your 'vest

messages'. I am from the UK and have heard that the Vest System is now

available in Europe. My son Ross has Cystic Fibrosis aged 4 weight 20

kilos. I have already visited the vest e-mail site www.the.vest.com.

The NHS here will not provide at the moment the money for this

equipment so at present I am trying to organise a fund-raising event to

help us purchase a vest for my son. It would be great if I could have

as much information on the vest so I can pass this on to the ones that

will help me raise the money required to purchase one.

How much do they cost?

What about servicing them?

Would my son's doctor have to get involved by issuing a prescription for

one of these?

Thanks.

Tina Cameron

The Vest - Randy

>

>

> Torsten of this cf parents group posted the info about the vest being

> available in Europe. As soon as I get a minute I will visit the site

again

> as I have done so before it was available in UK but it was not much

> use then.

>

> I do not think many of us here in UK will be able to afford this

> product

and

> our National Health Service will take for ever to come to a decision

> about who if any will be allowed them for free.

>

> Is there any way we can set up some form of Hire Purchase (don't know

> if thats what you call it in US) so that we can still buy them if we

> want to.

>

> My grand daughter (Shelby) is too young at the moment only 14 months

> but

it

> is something I know will help her mother later. Her mother (Louise)

suffers

> from tendonitus and I have wrist and elbow problems so her CPT is

> getting painful for the both of us at times. Which ever one is not

> hurting at the moment has to do it whilst the other one gets a rest.

>

> Hopefully by the time Shelby is older our NHS may have come to some

decision

> - but that will not help those people who need it NOW.

>

> Luv Grandma Maggs

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The Vest's list price in the US is a bit more than what Bev quoted. The

cost for the total system with everything included is about $16,000.00. As

far as servicing the unit, very little maintenance is required. Again, I am

not 100% sure of the cost, shipping, coverage by insurance, etc. in Europe.

My suggestion would be that you contact van der Sluis with Laguna

Health, Inc. They are the distributor for Europe. His e-mail address is

" pvandersluis@... " . He can give you more detailed info on

obtaining the Vest in the UK. As Bev said, it is very easy to use and is

extremely effective in clearing the airway. People here are sometimes taken

back by the cost of the Vest, but when you consider the cost of

hospitalization for a pulmonary exacerbation (pneumonia, bronchitis,

respiratory failure, etc), then it is really worth the money. We have had

numerous health insurance do studies on the cost vs. benefit of the Vest.

They have demonstrated that health care costs have dropped by about 49% when

the Vest was used. The cost savings came in the form of less

hospitalization, less antibiotic use, less medical interventions, less

medical follow up required...I could go on and on. And that doesn't even

take into account the time lost at school for the children, time lost at

work for the parents, the emotional strain,...so many factors need to be

considered.

OK, I'm off of my soapbox now. For those of you in the UK and other

countries in Europe, please contact . He can give you the best answer.

I will forward him this e-mail. As usual, I am here to answer any of your

questions about the Vest to the best of my ability. Please let me know if I

can help.

Randy

Advanced Respiratory (The Vest Company)

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

Hi,

I am new to the group and I also have been reading all your 'vest

messages'. I am from the UK and have heard that the Vest System is now

available in Europe. My son Ross has Cystic Fibrosis aged 4 weight 20

kilos. I have already visited the vest e-mail site www.the.vest.com.

The NHS here will not provide at the moment the money for this

equipment so at present I am trying to organise a fund-raising event to

help us purchase a vest for my son. It would be great if I could have

as much information on the vest so I can pass this on to the ones that

will help me raise the money required to purchase one.

How much do they cost?

What about servicing them?

Would my son's doctor have to get involved by issuing a prescription for

one of these?

Thanks.

Tina Cameron

The Vest - Randy

>

>

> Torsten of this cf parents group posted the info about the vest being

> available in Europe. As soon as I get a minute I will visit the site

again

> as I have done so before it was available in UK but it was not much

> use then.

>

> I do not think many of us here in UK will be able to afford this

> product

and

> our National Health Service will take for ever to come to a decision

> about who if any will be allowed them for free.

>

> Is there any way we can set up some form of Hire Purchase (don't know

> if thats what you call it in US) so that we can still buy them if we

> want to.

>

> My grand daughter (Shelby) is too young at the moment only 14 months

> but

it

> is something I know will help her mother later. Her mother (Louise)

suffers

> from tendonitus and I have wrist and elbow problems so her CPT is

> getting painful for the both of us at times. Which ever one is not

> hurting at the moment has to do it whilst the other one gets a rest.

>

> Hopefully by the time Shelby is older our NHS may have come to some

decision

> - but that will not help those people who need it NOW.

>

> Luv Grandma Maggs

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Randy;

You have been a wealth of good information.

Can you please clarify something regarding the studies. I am wondering if

the 49% health care cost savings, reduction of antibiotics, etc., was in

comparison to using the vest vs no therapy or the vest vs CPT or other

therapies?

Thanks if you are able to find this out.

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> We have had numerous health insurance do studies on the cost vs. benefit

of the Vest.

> They have demonstrated that health care costs have dropped by about 49%

when

> the Vest was used. The cost savings came in the form of less

> hospitalization, less antibiotic use, less medical interventions, less

> medical follow up required...I could go on and on. And that doesn't even

> take into account the time lost at school for the children, time lost at

> work for the parents, the emotional strain,...so many factors need to be

> considered.

> Randy

> Advanced Respiratory (The Vest Company)

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Looking at the information, it looks like they compared overall costs of

patients on the Vest vs. non-Vest users who were receiving CPT or some other

modality. It doesn't really break it down into specific therapies. If you

would like a copy of the article, please call our company at 1-.

If you are in the UK, please give me your address and I will send it to you.

I hope this helps.

Randy

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

Hi Randy;

You have been a wealth of good information.

Can you please clarify something regarding the studies. I am wondering if

the 49% health care cost savings, reduction of antibiotics, etc., was in

comparison to using the vest vs no therapy or the vest vs CPT or other

therapies?

Thanks if you are able to find this out.

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> We have had numerous health insurance do studies on the cost vs. benefit

of the Vest.

> They have demonstrated that health care costs have dropped by about 49%

when

> the Vest was used. The cost savings came in the form of less

> hospitalization, less antibiotic use, less medical interventions, less

> medical follow up required...I could go on and on. And that doesn't even

> take into account the time lost at school for the children, time lost at

> work for the parents, the emotional strain,...so many factors need to be

> considered.

> Randy

> Advanced Respiratory (The Vest Company)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Randy, for your quick reply.

I am in Canada so I called the 800 number you gave and left a voice mail

with my request. I trust Barb Dowell (not sure if I caught the name

correctly on the voice mail), from customer service, will call me back.

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> Hi ,

>

> Looking at the information, it looks like they compared overall costs of

> patients on the Vest vs. non-Vest users who were receiving CPT or some

other

> modality. It doesn't really break it down into specific therapies. If

you

> would like a copy of the article, please call our company at

1-.

> If you are in the UK, please give me your address and I will send it to

you.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Randy

[Guest guest]

Yes, Barb will call you back. She is a great lady!

Randy

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

Thanks, Randy, for your quick reply.

I am in Canada so I called the 800 number you gave and left a voice mail

with my request. I trust Barb Dowell (not sure if I caught the name

correctly on the voice mail), from customer service, will call me back.

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> Hi ,

>

> Looking at the information, it looks like they compared overall costs of

> patients on the Vest vs. non-Vest users who were receiving CPT or some

other

> modality. It doesn't really break it down into specific therapies. If

you

> would like a copy of the article, please call our company at

1-.

> If you are in the UK, please give me your address and I will send it to

you.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Randy

PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

-------------------------------------------

The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

IN NO WAY

be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS.

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[Guest guest]

She did call back, very promptly. She will look into the article you mention

and send me anything that is pertinent.

Unfortunately, I found out that the company doesn't have any

reps/distributors in Canada. With American exchange rates, cost may be

prohibitive for us to consider, but it will be useful to start with

knowledge about how much more effective it may be than what we already do.

Thanks, again,

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> Yes, Barb will call you back. She is a great lady!

>

> Randy

[Guest guest]

Not a problem, . I wish I could have been more help.

Re: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

She did call back, very promptly. She will look into the article you mention

and send me anything that is pertinent.

Unfortunately, I found out that the company doesn't have any

reps/distributors in Canada. With American exchange rates, cost may be

prohibitive for us to consider, but it will be useful to start with

knowledge about how much more effective it may be than what we already do.

Thanks, again,

RE: ENQUIRY ABOUT THE VEST - UK

> Yes, Barb will call you back. She is a great lady!

>

> Randy

PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

-------------------------------------------

The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

IN NO WAY

be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS.

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