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Dear Rose,

I really sympathise with your situation and Ben's behaviour, albeit caused by

the side-effects of meds withdrawal, and looking back on my time at school can

relate to exactly what you've referred to in your e-mail.

When I was 5 yrs I was diagnosed as having complex partial seizures and was put

through the mill on all the typical anti-epileptic drugs (AED's), my behaviour

did suffer as a result, but then again so did my education too. My school

reports often read " Has the ability but could try better " and " Lacks

concentration " both typical of what teachers would list. ly, my parents

took things with a pinch of salt and so long as I did attend school and my

behaviour wasn't too bad, on the whole, they let sleeping dogs lie.

I think part of the problem Ben is going through, of which to some extent I did

too, he needs a good ally within the teaching staff, someone who can at least

support him morally and if need be medically, but also someone who can

support/defend him within the teaching staff. Although I was pretty much

isolated in that way during my junior school years, in my secondary/high school

years I did find one such member of staff - worth her weight in gold, sadly I

can't say much for the rest.

I suggest you speak to Ben's registration teacher, someone he sees on a day to

day basis, either with or without the headmaster present to explain that

medication does have side effects and obviously it's withdrawal can cause equal

amounts too. You might even consider speaking to Ben's local doctor too,

he/she might be able to write a letter to Ben's school explaining that his

misbehaviour isn't necessarily of his own making, and hopefully as time passes

and his meds are weaned off him he may return to the generally well behaved

child the staff have known him for being.

If it's any consolation, my schooling wasn't a great success, I guess I could

have tried better personally, but I will say that drugs and the seizures played

a very dominant roll in my overall aptitude and ability to learn. Even though I

say it myself, I've come a long way since then, I've been self-employed with

my own shop for 23 years, do book-keeping for the family business and have

recently been deemed fit to drive. I know qualifications are more important

these days than in the 70's, when I left school, but Ben still has a number of

years to catch up any lost ground, and surely if he becomes meds-free then that

should also help his education too. So please don't worry unduly,

Best wishes,

Phil

Help!

Hi everyone,

I'm Mum to Ben - 9 years old - in ketosis for 4 months and doing well apart

from one

thing: his behaviour has gone haywire. It has got so bad we had a letter from

his

headmaster yesterday telling us something has got to be sorted out. I would be

so

grateful if anyone with experience of worsening behaviour particularly whilst

withdrawing drugs could post a brief reply so that I can collate bit of

anecdotal

evidence. I need to be able to say to him that I think once the meds have gone

Ben

will be back to his old self (he was never really naughty at school before).

Otherwise

things are going well and he's much more alert generally. At last he can

remember his

birthday date and yesterday he worked out how to play " Walking in the Air "

from " The

Snowman " on his cello. That brought a tear or two to my eye!

Please reply if you think you have any info that might help us.

Rose Toms

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resort! "

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We had horrible behaviour with drug weaning, not sure which meds you are

doing, but we really saw it with depakote. Every time we dropped a dose

she would get wild for a few days, then settle down again. Last drop was

the worst, she was totally inconsolable, completely over the edge,

alternating between screaming and crying like her little heart would

break. Some drug weans result in withdrawl seizures, some in withdrawl

behaviour. Think of a addict going through withdrawl.......

Withdrawl behaviour and seizures both tend to be worst the closer you

get to the end of a wean, so you may yet have the worst to come. It like

the body is trying to hang on desperately to that last little bit of

drug.

Should settle when the drugs have been gone for a while, but

realistically

may be two, three, even four weeks after its all gone.

Good luck

, 's mom

celvellyn wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm Mum to Ben - 9 years old - in ketosis for 4 months and doing well

> apart from one

> thing: his behaviour has gone haywire. It has got so bad we had a

> letter from his

> headmaster yesterday telling us something has got to be sorted out. I

> would be so

> grateful if anyone with experience of worsening behaviour particularly

> whilst

> withdrawing drugs could post a brief reply so that I can collate bit

> of anecdotal

> evidence. I need to be able to say to him that I think once the meds

> have gone Ben

> will be back to his old self (he was never really naughty at school

> before). Otherwise

> things are going well and he's much more alert generally. At last he

> can remember his

> birthday date and yesterday he worked out how to play " Walking in the

> Air " from " The

> Snowman " on his cello. That brought a tear or two to my eye!

>

> Please reply if you think you have any info that might help us.

>

> Rose Toms

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

> resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm Mum to Ben - 9 years old - in ketosis for 4 months and doing

well apart from one

> thing: his behaviour has gone haywire. It has got so bad we had a

letter from his

> headmaster yesterday telling us something has got to be sorted

out. I would be so

> grateful if anyone with experience of worsening behaviour

particularly whilst

> withdrawing drugs could post a brief reply so that I can collate

bit of anecdotal

> evidence. I need to be able to say to him that I think once the

meds have gone Ben

> will be back to his old self (he was never really naughty at

school before). Otherwise

> things are going well and he's much more alert generally. At last

he can remember his

> birthday date and yesterday he worked out how to play " Walking in

the Air " from " The

> Snowman " on his cello. That brought a tear or two to my eye!

>

> Please reply if you think you have any info that might help us.

>

> Rose Toms

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-I'm glad you provided the most important piece of the puzzle in

your son's recent bad behavior. It's the medicine wean. I can't

stress enough the difficulty of these weans. I wish I had the date

of the May New York Times article I referred to on this site

sometime towards the end of May 04. It was a caution about weaning

people off antidepressants. It described all the symptoms my son

went through while weaning AEDs. (Depression being a major one.)

We finally did a rapid wean to get through with it quickly. I

wouldn't suggest that if you have continued with good seziure

control during the wean, but if you have lost control anyway, you

might consider it. Once the wean was over, my son returned to his

wonderful, engaging, easy-going manners. But we went through hell

getting there. Perhaps the strongest symptom your son is feeling is

depression, and then acting out because of it, so patience an

understanding is key. But things will get better for him when the

wean is over. It will be worth it in the end. How far do you have

to go? Hang in there!

Gretchen

-- In ketogenic , " celvellyn "

wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm Mum to Ben - 9 years old - in ketosis for 4 months and doing

well apart from one

> thing: his behaviour has gone haywire. It has got so bad we had a

letter from his

> headmaster yesterday telling us something has got to be sorted

out. I would be so

> grateful if anyone with experience of worsening behaviour

particularly whilst

> withdrawing drugs could post a brief reply so that I can collate

bit of anecdotal

> evidence. I need to be able to say to him that I think once the

meds have gone Ben

> will be back to his old self (he was never really naughty at

school before). Otherwise

> things are going well and he's much more alert generally. At last

he can remember his

> birthday date and yesterday he worked out how to play " Walking in

the Air " from " The

> Snowman " on his cello. That brought a tear or two to my eye!

>

> Please reply if you think you have any info that might help us.

>

> Rose Toms

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Hi Gretchen and and all,

Just a quick post to put you in the picture properly - Ben has been on Epilim

(UK -

don't know the equivalent elsewhere) for five years and is coming off at the

rate off

approx 200mg per 2 weeks - seems quite fast to me but we're following our

consultants instructions as you do....

We lose a little seizure control for a few days but have always got it back - so

far

anyway. We were on 1100mg a day and have got down to 700mg now.

Have a good day!

Rose Toms

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The only thing I can say is that our three year old son is EXTREMELY

irritable, stubborn and frustrated near mealtime until he gets a few

bites in and begins to calm down...but even then, he hangs on every bite

and can't stand it when we pause for more than a few seconds between

spoonfuls! There's really no return to joy until he gets something in

him, even if it's just a drink. And if he gets in his mind that it's

time to eat when it isn't, he usually has to have a time-out when the

behavior gets out of control.

Help!

Hi everyone,

I'm Mum to Ben - 9 years old - in ketosis for 4 months and doing well

apart from one

thing: his behaviour has gone haywire. It has got so bad we had a letter

from his

headmaster yesterday telling us something has got to be sorted out. I

would be so

grateful if anyone with experience of worsening behaviour particularly

whilst

withdrawing drugs could post a brief reply so that I can collate bit of

anecdotal

evidence. I need to be able to say to him that I think once the meds

have gone Ben

will be back to his old self (he was never really naughty at school

before). Otherwise

things are going well and he's much more alert generally. At last he can

remember his

birthday date and yesterday he worked out how to play " Walking in the

Air " from " The

Snowman " on his cello. That brought a tear or two to my eye!

Please reply if you think you have any info that might help us.

Rose Toms

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a

professional keto team!

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Okay, epilim is depakote. So that would explain the behaviour. Hang in

and welcome to the club where the motto is..........This too shall

pass.......this too shall pass......this too shall pass.......

Honest, it will!

celvellyn wrote:

> Hi Gretchen and and all,

>

> Just a quick post to put you in the picture properly - Ben has been on

> Epilim (UK -

> don't know the equivalent elsewhere) for five years and is coming off

> at the rate off

> approx 200mg per 2 weeks - seems quite fast to me but we're following

> our

> consultants instructions as you do....

> We lose a little seizure control for a few days but have always got it

> back - so far

> anyway. We were on 1100mg a day and have got down to 700mg now.

>

> Have a good day!

>

> Rose Toms

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

> resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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>

>

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One more thought, you will likely want (need) to slow that wean down as

you get closer to the end. Get confused sometimes who I am talking to

but you were the one who posted about the school/behaviour problems,

right?

Wouldn't want to send that headmaster (and Ben) totally out of control

LOL

Of course, its not funny, but if you don't laugh, you cry. I actually

find doing both at the same time rather therapeutic.

But back to the wean, I would definitely slow things down if you see

things deteriorate (either seizure or behaviour wise) from where you are

now. Use what you have now as your baseline and be prepared to have to

slow down (maybe even stop for a while if you have to, no big deal, to

let him stablize). Kind of like the turtle and the hare, better to

actually finish the race then race to the end.....if that made any sense

One thing about it, least you know you have lots of company from the

been there, done that club. Feel free to share us with the headmaster

celvellyn wrote:

> Hi Gretchen and and all,

>

> Just a quick post to put you in the picture properly - Ben has been on

> Epilim (UK -

> don't know the equivalent elsewhere) for five years and is coming off

> at the rate off

> approx 200mg per 2 weeks - seems quite fast to me but we're following

> our

> consultants instructions as you do....

> We lose a little seizure control for a few days but have always got it

> back - so far

> anyway. We were on 1100mg a day and have got down to 700mg now.

>

> Have a good day!

>

> Rose Toms

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

> resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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>

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Hi Rose and

Rose, gave me very good advice when Francesca was weaning

her Epilim (thank you ) and yes, everything everyone has said

so far is spot on. Francesca went through really emotional stuff -

lots of tantrums and really crying her heart out just saying over and

over " make me a happy face " - it was heart-breaking. This was,

however, much closer to the end of the wean than you are now I'm

sorry to say, so you may still have worse to come. But the good news

is yes 'this too shall pass' - keep saying it to yourself and the

headmaster - it really, really will. I would say we still had some

problems until around 4-6 weeks after the last dose, but they

lessened each day. It is 2 months tomorrow that she's been drug free

and she is back to her usual self (not that she doesn't still have

the odd tantrum of course!). Now - no tonic clonics, no absences,

just a few myoclonics which we're working on, which seeeeeem to be

lessening.

Is Ben on the Epilim chrono? We dropped 100mg every two weeks and

when we got to 200 morning and night switched to the crushable

tablets so we could drop slower. The last drops I decided to go for

half a tablet every two weeks. I was desperate to go faster, but

really listened to everyone here who very strongly advised to slow

down towards the end. Seizure-wise the wean went really well - just

one tonic seizure lasting 2 minutes and 2 others of about 30

seconds. The total wean took us four and a half months.

Take care

, Mum to Francesca, Keto Kid since Sept 03

>

> > Hi Gretchen and and all,

> >

> > Just a quick post to put you in the picture properly - Ben has

been on

> > Epilim (UK -

> > don't know the equivalent elsewhere) for five years and is coming

off

> > at the rate off

> > approx 200mg per 2 weeks - seems quite fast to me but we're

following

> > our

> > consultants instructions as you do....

> > We lose a little seizure control for a few days but have always

got it

> > back - so far

> > anyway. We were on 1100mg a day and have got down to 700mg now.

> >

> > Have a good day!

> >

> > Rose Toms

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

last

> > resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi and

Thankyou again for all your wonderful advice and support. I was absolutely

terrified

going into school this morning but having logged on here a couple of times and

spoken to my Mum and a few friends about things I am now feeling a bit calmer.

Ben

and I also said a little prayer this morning, and I really believe that helped.

We had a

much better report from school at home-time. We have promised a visit to the

cinema to see Shrek 2 at the weekend if we have a really good week. Keep your

fingers crossed for us!

Rose Toms - Mum of Ben 9 - in ketosis since March 04 and cruisin' (apart from

the

odd fits of rage here and there!)

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Hi Rose,

was so awful at the start of the diet and then 3m later when we

started the drug wean that his teacher wanted him thrown out of the school and

his one to one aide quit!

He is off all drugs now, sadly not seizure free and definitely could not

play a cello , much less walking in the wind! but he is calm and well behaved at

school now,

Nicola, mum to Matt aged 7 1/2, MCT dairy free keto diet

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Hi Nicola,

Thanks for your encouragement. Of the three kids on the Tonight programme

was the one most like Ben and although I shed a few tears here and there

I

did smile to hear him tell you that you made him angry! Ben has really been

through

it recently. One or two mornings he has sat over his breakfast for 1 hour 20

minutes.

I have been mad with the school because they've given my husband and I a hard

time

over his behaviour. I'm afraid I wrote a stiff letter to the headmaster and they

have

backed off a bit - mainly because I quoted other peoples experiences of

behaviour

problems. I also had to take a tiny bit of Ben's breakfast into school just once

because

otherwise I would have been late for work for the umpteenth time, and I was

curtly

told that supervising Ben's breakfast was not one of his assistant's duties!!!!

I just

discovered today that Ben's assistant (who is and absolute gem) may be moved to

another job next year on account of the possiblity of us moving away from the

area

(though we don't even have an offer on our house yet) and she will be replaced

by a

mealtime supervisor. I could scream. It took the present assistant about a year

to

settle in and really get to know Ben etc etc. I'm preparing to do battle with

the deputy

head tomorrow....

Take care, and Ben says hello to !

Rose Toms - Mum of Ben 9 - in ketosis since March 04 and doing well - down to

less

than half the dose of Epilim now but being prepared to slow up on the drug wean

if

things go bananas again....

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Hi Rose and Nicola

Has eating always been difficult or are Ben and just not

liking their keto food? Since you're both on the MCT diet, could you

try cakes for breakfast? I do know how lucky I am that Francesca

eats really easily, but she scoffs her blueberry muffin for breakfast

in five minutes flat! It's honestly no agg at all (baking them once

a fortnight is a bit of a pain, but at least I can do it in my own

time - usually on a Sunday evening and then freeze them). Keto

breakfast is ten times quicker than it used to be when I wanted her

to eat cereals and fruit (even though she loved both).

Rose - does Ben have a statement of special educational needs, or has

the school given access to an assistant through their own resources?

If you haven't got a statement, it certainly seems like it might be

worth going through the process of trying to get one - of course a

billion times easier said than done!!! I'm currently in the process

of fighting to keep speech therapy, as it hasn't worked very well

this year, so their proposal is to not bother with it any more!!!

Take care

, Mum to Francesca, Keto Kid since Sept 03, myoclonics reducing

a little more following recent calorie increase...

> Hi Nicola,

>

> Thanks for your encouragement. Of the three kids on the Tonight

programme

> was the one most like Ben and although I shed a few tears

here and there I

> did smile to hear him tell you that you made him angry! Ben has

really been through

> it recently. One or two mornings he has sat over his breakfast for

1 hour 20 minutes.

> I have been mad with the school because they've given my husband

and I a hard time

> over his behaviour. I'm afraid I wrote a stiff letter to the

headmaster and they have

> backed off a bit - mainly because I quoted other peoples

experiences of behaviour

> problems. I also had to take a tiny bit of Ben's breakfast into

school just once because

> otherwise I would have been late for work for the umpteenth time,

and I was curtly

> told that supervising Ben's breakfast was not one of his

assistant's duties!!!! I just

> discovered today that Ben's assistant (who is and absolute gem) may

be moved to

> another job next year on account of the possiblity of us moving

away from the area

> (though we don't even have an offer on our house yet) and she will

be replaced by a

> mealtime supervisor. I could scream. It took the present assistant

about a year to

> settle in and really get to know Ben etc etc. I'm preparing to do

battle with the deputy

> head tomorrow....

>

> Take care, and Ben says hello to !

>

> Rose Toms - Mum of Ben 9 - in ketosis since March 04 and doing

well - down to less

> than half the dose of Epilim now but being prepared to slow up on

the drug wean if

> things go bananas again....

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Hi ,

I think this eating business is partly a problem with consuming vast quantities

of

liquigen and partly a sort of emotional reaction to change in general. Ben used

to eat

pretty well but I never made an issue of it anyway - ie if he wouldn't eat his

dinner I

just used to say OK make sure you have a bit of everything and then don't have

pudding. Ben doesn't respond well to being put under pressure of any kind so I

find

breakfast is the worst meal because there's a time limit (in theory!) The Epilim

seems

to have made Ben sometimes feel icky in the past - he would get half way through

a

meal and then say he was full and had a tummy ache.

Also I am a rubbish cook so I haven't found a way to make nice cakes yet.

Looking at

our breakfast ingredients I think we'd be lucky to make only a cake and not have

anything left over, especially liquigen. If you have any advice I would be very

grateful!

Yes Ben does have a SEN statement. He's had it since he started Junior school

and we

fought tooth and nail to get him full time help. We were initially told that Ben

would

benefit from some independence so that he could relate to his peers (for example

in

the playground) and I said sorry but for now Ben will not be independent and if

during his unsupervised periods he has a nasty seizure which goes unmonitored he

could sustain serious brain damage etc etc. He was bad enough for someone to

have

to hold his hand everywhere he went and as you know school is full of rock-hard

surfaces! He wears a rugby helmet for protection too. Eventually we got our way!

Ben's SNA, Mrs , is absolutely wonderful and if we lose her it will be

devastating. I have had a meeting with the SNC today to try to persuade her to

let us

have Mrs for a few hours a day to ensure some continuity through into

Year

5. This year Ben's class have had to endure three different class teachers and I

think

Ben's survival has been due to Mrs 's presence. He was at his worst at the

beginning of Junior School when he had obviously changed schools and teachers

and

was starting with a new assistant too. We've come a long way since then though!

Keep fighting for Francesca - I have a picture in my mind of her beautiful

little face

watching tigger on the Tonight programme. Our kids need all the help they can

get. I

have been transformed from a mouse into a lion since Ben became poorly!

All the best

Rose

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A keto eggnog (we use chocolate flavouring and call it a chocolate

milkshake) might work for breakfast, quick, easy, easy to drink and even

if he doesn't finish it all, he should still have right ratio

celvellyn wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I think this eating business is partly a problem with consuming vast

> quantities of

> liquigen and partly a sort of emotional reaction to change in general.

> Ben used to eat

> pretty well but I never made an issue of it anyway - ie if he wouldn't

> eat his dinner I

> just used to say OK make sure you have a bit of everything and then

> don't have

> pudding. Ben doesn't respond well to being put under pressure of any

> kind so I find

> breakfast is the worst meal because there's a time limit (in theory!)

> The Epilim seems

> to have made Ben sometimes feel icky in the past - he would get half

> way through a

> meal and then say he was full and had a tummy ache.

> Also I am a rubbish cook so I haven't found a way to make nice cakes

> yet. Looking at

> our breakfast ingredients I think we'd be lucky to make only a cake

> and not have

> anything left over, especially liquigen. If you have any advice I

> would be very grateful!

>

> Yes Ben does have a SEN statement. He's had it since he started Junior

> school and we

> fought tooth and nail to get him full time help. We were initially

> told that Ben would

> benefit from some independence so that he could relate to his peers

> (for example in

> the playground) and I said sorry but for now Ben will not be

> independent and if

> during his unsupervised periods he has a nasty seizure which goes

> unmonitored he

> could sustain serious brain damage etc etc. He was bad enough for

> someone to have

> to hold his hand everywhere he went and as you know school is full of

> rock-hard

> surfaces! He wears a rugby helmet for protection too. Eventually we

> got our way!

> Ben's SNA, Mrs , is absolutely wonderful and if we lose her it

> will be

> devastating. I have had a meeting with the SNC today to try to

> persuade her to let us

> have Mrs for a few hours a day to ensure some continuity

> through into Year

> 5. This year Ben's class have had to endure three different class

> teachers and I think

> Ben's survival has been due to Mrs 's presence. He was at his

> worst at the

> beginning of Junior School when he had obviously changed schools and

> teachers and

> was starting with a new assistant too. We've come a long way since

> then though!

>

> Keep fighting for Francesca - I have a picture in my mind of her

> beautiful little face

> watching tigger on the Tonight programme. Our kids need all the help

> they can get. I

> have been transformed from a mouse into a lion since Ben became

> poorly!

>

> All the best

> Rose

>

>

>

>

>

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  • 2 years later...

I have been scouring the recipes and files, and could SWEAR someone had posted a "no bake" peanut butter cookie that used GF cornflakes??? I thought I had saved it to my "favorite recipes" on my computer... but its not there.

I really have a peanut butter cookie jones, and my oven took a poop, and dont know when our nephew will be back to hook up the new one when we get it this week.. I have made regular gluten cookies on the grill (dont ask, but yes it does work). Just dont dare try GF there yet... Anyone have the link bookmarked or the recipe or is this something I just dreamed of???

Thanks!

Cassi

Gluten free in downtown Imatra!

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The recipe you were thinking of is in the files:

GF Recipes > Cookies & Fudge > Nut Cookies

It is the last recipe on the page (scroll down)- No bake peanut butter

cookies, posted by . ;) Enjoy!

>

> I have been scouring the recipes and files, and could SWEAR someone

had posted a " no bake " peanut butter cookie that used GF cornflakes???

I thought I had saved it to my " favorite recipes " on my computer...

but its not there.

> I really have a peanut butter cookie jones, and my oven took a poop,

and dont know when our nephew will be back to hook up the new one when

we get it this week.. I have made regular gluten cookies on the grill

(dont ask, but yes it does work). Just dont dare try GF there yet...

Anyone have the link bookmarked or the recipe or is this something I

just dreamed of???

> Thanks!

> Cassi

>

> Gluten free in downtown Imatra!

>

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Thanks all for the cookie recipes... Had every intention of making them this weekend, but no good deed goes unpunished, and instead of stepdaughter and grandaughter coming, we had the whole fam-damily! Wound up with far too many gluten gobbling ghouls as guests, so CC was an issue. Hopefully will have some time tomorrow as Im still having the jones bad, and have reclaimed my home once again...

Best!

Cassi

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WOW! can I ever relate for my son who is the celiac! My dh bought a BD. gluten filled cake for our one year old in our home and everyone dropped in for cake and icecream. Is it just me, or is it hard for everyone else also to explain why the gf icecream cannot get touched by the cake? I cannot believe how dh seemed as if I were overreacting. I kept saying this too shall pass andso it did. Just trying to keep my little guy safe!!! Lauretta

Thanks all for the cookie recipes... Had every intention of making them this weekend, but no good deed goes unpunished, and instead of stepdaughter and grandaughter coming, we had the whole fam-damily! Wound up with far too many gluten gobbling ghouls as guests, so CC was an issue. Hopefully will have some time tomorrow as Im still having the jones bad, and have reclaimed my home once again...

Best!

Cassi

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Cassi, Dang I wish more people that aren't dealing with CD or DH would be more understanding for people like us. It's no fun getting sick. You sure had a time of it. I've already decided, if Dean's folk's want me to have a meal with them, I'm bringing foods with me that I can eat, so I don't get ill. I have been doing so much better since being GF, and I don't care to get sick. I did forward the news link to Dean so he could read it, and show it to his folk's. Whether he did or not, is beyond me, but I also e-mailed it to my sister in-law. I love my In-laws, and I just want them to better understand more about the reasons I have to stay away from things with gluten in it. They just don't realize how much stuff it's in, which is just about everything.

Sure hope you get to feeling better. Hugs, Donna

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Thanks all for the cookie recipes... Had every intention of making them this weekend, but no good deed goes unpunished, and instead of stepdaughter and grandaughter coming, we had the whole fam-damily! Wound up with far too many gluten gobbling ghouls as guests, so CC was an issue. Hopefully will have some time tomorrow as Im still having the jones bad, and have reclaimed my home once again...

Best!

Cassi

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Lauretta, We do have problems with people that aren't deal with CD like we are, that just don't get it, and they seem to really not care. I explained to my husband, nothing that has touched glutened foods can tough the GF, or I'll get terribly ill. He doesn't get it, but he is trying to, he's not like he was. But gee, sure wish people would better understand what we're dealing with. Donna

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WOW! can I ever relate for my son who is the celiac! My dh bought a BD. gluten filled cake for our one year old in our home and everyone dropped in for cake and icecream. Is it just me, or is it hard for everyone else also to explain why the gf icecream cannot get touched by the cake? I cannot believe how dh seemed as if I were overreacting. I kept saying this too shall pass andso it did. Just trying to keep my little guy safe!!! Lauretta

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I would've shot my husband if he brought home a regular cake. It's one thing when you go somewhere else and it's unavoidable, but geeze in your own home!? Especially with so many great cake mixes out there for GF. I haven't had a problem explaining the cross contamination issue, even to my thick headed SIL, but I do have to do it EVERY time.

We don't even do cake anymore at any family birthday. Not bc of the Celiac, but bc no one ever seems to really like it or miss it. We've gone to Make Your Own Sundae bars (and I usually make a pan of GF brownies and cut them into small bits) and that is a HUGE hit!!! So, just food for thought....

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Lauretta McInnisSent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:41 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: Re: HELP!

WOW! can I ever relate for my son who is the celiac! My dh bought a BD. gluten filled cake for our one year old in our home and everyone dropped in for cake and icecream. Is it just me, or is it hard for everyone else also to explain why the gf icecream cannot get touched by the cake? I cannot believe how dh seemed as if I were overreacting. I kept saying this too shall pass andso it did. Just trying to keep my little guy safe!!! Lauretta

On 9/20/06, cassi naukkarinen <cass (AT) angry-ostrich (DOT) org> wrote:

Thanks all for the cookie recipes... Had every intention of making them this weekend, but no good deed goes unpunished, and instead of stepdaughter and grandaughter coming, we had the whole fam-damily! Wound up with far too many gluten gobbling ghouls as guests, so CC was an issue. Hopefully will have some time tomorrow as Im still having the jones bad, and have reclaimed my home once again...

Best!

Cassi

Hi, I'm here for my internment...Oh, no! I mean internship!

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