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Hi everyone!

We started our initiation last monday and just came home friday. We

have seen improvements each day in 's seizure control. He is

on 4:1. Ketones were in the large 160 range in the hosptial and

even most of yesterday. Today they are reading only 40-80. I have

re-read my keto manual and done a search in Dr. Freeman's book and

can't find what to do if they are dropping. Do I go back to a fast

until they drop or just keep feeding the dietician prescribed menus

and they should settle back up? Obviously, I will call dietician in

the am, but was wondering if there is something I should know to do

that I have simply forgotten in all the new stuff I have learned

this week!

Thanks for any advice!

Leigh

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Leigh,

Welcome to you and , the new " keto kid " . I'm Cammie, mom to

, 8rys. old, seizure free on the diet for 14 months now. I'm so

happy to hear you are seeing success the first week--that's a great

sign. Some teams do recommend that you fast your child for a few

meals if ketones drop. Per our dietician, I would just omit the carb

portion of 's meal(s) when her ketones dropped. That's less

drastic than fasting. Check ketones again before the next meal to

see if they are stronger. Hopefully, that will bump the ketones up

for now -- do call your dietician on Monday for recommendations.

Sometimes it just takes a while for the ketone level to " settle " .

Other reasons for temporary low ketones are new foods, too much fluid

intake, and fighting an illness (whether the child actually comes

down with it or not). Also toothpaste, lotions, etc. can lower

ketones if they contain hidden carbs. Hopefully, you received a list

of things like this that are " o.k " for keto.

Is on any meds? AEDs can negatively affect the diet, too--

some worse than others.

Sounds like he's off to a good start, though -- WOOO HOOOO!!

Cammie

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> Hi everyone!

> We started our initiation last monday and just came home friday.

We

> have seen improvements each day in 's seizure control. He is

> on 4:1. Ketones were in the large 160 range in the hosptial and

> even most of yesterday. Today they are reading only 40-80. I have

> re-read my keto manual and done a search in Dr. Freeman's book and

> can't find what to do if they are dropping. Do I go back to a fast

> until they drop or just keep feeding the dietician prescribed menus

> and they should settle back up? Obviously, I will call dietician

in

> the am, but was wondering if there is something I should know to do

> that I have simply forgotten in all the new stuff I have learned

> this week!

> Thanks for any advice!

> Leigh

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Hi leigh, it's nicole from EFA website, damon did the same the

second week on the diet, he was on a 3.5:1 ratio and moved to a

3.7:1 . Do you have a glucometer? If not I would maybe ask for one,

when there keytones are low to mod it can indicate high blood sugar,

and they can lower the carbs for you. Damon is on 2.0 grams of carbs

a feed and that help but we are increasing to a 4:1 ratio. Also

check sabout the glucometer. Also ask yourself if he could have

gotten anything, toothpaste or something. Hope all goes better.

In ketogenic , " jacksondoodle2002 "

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> Hi everyone!

> We started our initiation last monday and just came home friday.

We

> have seen improvements each day in 's seizure control. He

is

> on 4:1. Ketones were in the large 160 range in the hosptial and

> even most of yesterday. Today they are reading only 40-80. I

have

> re-read my keto manual and done a search in Dr. Freeman's book and

> can't find what to do if they are dropping. Do I go back to a

fast

> until they drop or just keep feeding the dietician prescribed

menus

> and they should settle back up? Obviously, I will call dietician

in

> the am, but was wondering if there is something I should know to

do

> that I have simply forgotten in all the new stuff I have learned

> this week!

> Thanks for any advice!

> Leigh

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It is likely that the calories are a bit too high. You will have lots of

fine tuning to do.

You can cut by 100 calories and see how that goes for a week or two.

Keep very accurate records of weight as per Dr. Freeman's book. And of

everything else for that matter.

Your dietician will be able to help you with it.

Bill

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> Hi everyone!

> We started our initiation last monday and just came home friday. We

> have seen improvements each day in 's seizure control. He is

> on 4:1. Ketones were in the large 160 range in the hosptial and

> even most of yesterday. Today they are reading only 40-80. I have

> re-read my keto manual and done a search in Dr. Freeman's book and

> can't find what to do if they are dropping. Do I go back to a fast

> until they drop or just keep feeding the dietician prescribed menus

> and they should settle back up? Obviously, I will call dietician in

> the am, but was wondering if there is something I should know to do

> that I have simply forgotten in all the new stuff I have learned

> this week!

> Thanks for any advice!

> Leigh

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