Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Hi, My daughters class this year will have swimming every Friday morning. Deanna wears hearing aids and uses an fm system in mainstream school. She is the only student in the district with hearing aids. Her hearing is snhl mod-severe and she doesn't know how to swim. The entire class of 24 second graders will be in the pool at the same time. I called the school today to set up a meeting with the swim coach but they haven't called back yet. I was wondering what others have done in the same circumstances. Should she have an aide in the pool with her for safety and to ensure she understands directions? She wouldn't be able to hear most of what he says to the class and although she reads lips very well, visibility will be difficult in the pool. There are bright lights and one entire wall of the pool area is floor to ceiling windows. And I think she'll be mostly concentrating on staying above the water. I plan on taking her once a week for the family swim time to suppliment her learning to swim but what should I do about safety etc. in the class swimming that starts next week? Thanks, Tara Deanna 7 --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Tara, Does your daughter sign at all? Our Hailey did swim lessons with her preschool the last 2 yrs. The school provided an aide that was able to sign with her during the lessons. It was necessary in order for her to participate fully in the class. If your daughter does sign I would fight for at least an aide that can interpret for her during the time she is in that class without her aides in. Your reasoning being she would not be able to fully participate in the class without it. HTH Selena --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Hi, My son (severe/profound, HA user) has taken pool swimming lessons several times now, but never with more than 6 children. I usually explain the situation to the swim director ahead of time: he¹s deaf, can¹t hear in the water, needs to see the instructor¹s face or have the instructor talk directly into his ear, have another child or the instructor demonstrate what he needs to do, etc. It has actually worked out better than I would have expected but, as I stated, this was with 6 or fewer kids. I would ask about the child/teacher ratio. I also grab the actual instructor prior to the first class and explain all this to him/her, then follow up at the end of class to check in and see how it went. But then, this was when I was contracting the instruction myself; I guess if this is a school thing, you can¹t very well be there to oversee your child¹s instruction. However, I would insist on talking to someone in charge ahead of time. Putting my child into a potentially dangerous situation where he can¹t hear really freaks me out, and I would want the school to take my concerns seriously. Good luck, Stefanie Mom to Ben, 8, severe/profound, and Isabella, 11, mild loss on 9/6/06 1:17 PM, Tara Cofone at tdmcmom@... wrote: > Hi, > > My daughters class this year will have swimming every Friday morning. Deanna > wears hearing aids and uses an fm system in mainstream school. She is the > only student in the district with hearing aids. Her hearing is snhl > mod-severe and she doesn't know how to swim. The entire class of 24 second > graders will be in the pool at the same time. > > I called the school today to set up a meeting with the swim coach but they > haven't called back yet. I was wondering what others have done in the same > circumstances. Should she have an aide in the pool with her for safety and to > ensure she understands directions? She wouldn't be able to hear most of what > he says to the class and although she reads lips very well, visibility will be > difficult in the pool. There are bright lights and one entire wall of the > pool area is floor to ceiling windows. And I think she'll be mostly > concentrating on staying above the water. > > I plan on taking her once a week for the family swim time to suppliment her > learning to swim but what should I do about safety etc. in the class swimming > that starts next week? > > Thanks, > > Tara > Deanna 7 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Talking to the coach is a good idea, but if thisis an organized event, chances are good that they are well prepared for it. Your child is certainly not the only one who can't swim, and indoor pools tend to be so noisy that no one can hear well anyway. Our 11yo son has done group swimming many times. His third or fourth-grade class did weekly swimming for a while, but he also swims with his summer day care program, and at camp. He has major problems with ear infections, so we got him swimming molds to keep water out, but it does mean that he hears even less than he normally does--practically nothing. It's never been a problem, though. He doesn't swim well at all--his muscle tone makes it hard for him to move through water, and he can't keep his legs straight--but they've always put him in the Beginner section (with a big black B on his shoulder in permanent ink), and he does just fine. He's always with adults who know he can't hear. Kiminy --- Tara Cofone tdmcmom@...> wrote: > Hi, > > My daughters class this year will have swimming > every Friday morning. Deanna wears hearing aids and > uses an fm system in mainstream school. She is the > only student in the district with hearing aids. Her > hearing is snhl mod-severe and she doesn't know how > to swim. The entire class of 24 second graders will > be in the pool at the same time. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Our school also has a pool and all grades swim for a series of classes at least once a year. If it's run anything like outs, I can't imagine that safety isn't a key issue. An amazing number of kids don't swim, and they know that. For some, just getting them to put their faces in the water was a huge issue. When our elementary grades go for their sessions, they ask parents to come along to act as supervisors and helpers. We are asked to come ready to get in the pool if needed, as well as to supervise the locker room, pool side behavior and behavior on the bus rides to and from the high school.. If it is run like ours, it is not a free-for-all where the kids jump and play. The kids are assessed as to their swimming ability, broken into three levels and get instructions based on what they can do. It is very organized. No one who isn't a strong swimmer gets into the deep water. Most of the classes were held in the shallow end (where the kids can easily stand) doing activities in small groups. For the extreme non-swimmers, the ones afraid to even put their faces in the water, one exercise/game was to drop a weighted ring to the floor of the pool, and then bend or squat down into the water to pick it up. (Many of the kids tried to get away with using their toes to pick it up, LOL) Even the advanced swimmers were not allow in the lap lanes without kick boards. My kids are actually bored by swim classes. For years, part of their summer routine has been to swim laps every morning. For the swim classes, the middle school kids have to use kick boards and work on leg strength and other exercises like that. It's not until they've graduated through several evaluations that they are permitted to really swim laps. (And no one ever goes off the boards, those are for the team only.) I would do just what you've done. Talk to the coach, ask if they've added aides (parent or professionals) to the event for safety, and if not, explain your special circumstances. If you can, and they're open to it, volunteer to come in as an aide for the swim days. Our Ian also swims without his aids. Even if it were possible to swim with them, the acoustics in a pool area are worst than terrible. The swim coach knows Ian can't hear, gives instructions right to him so Ian can see his face, and has other kids tap Ian's shoulder when he needs to get his attention. The idea of having Ian in the pool terrified me at first, and I called and talked to everyone at the school to make sure he was safe. He was just fine. Ian lip reads well, so as long as he can see the coach he does pretty well -- or he asks him to repeat things. I explained to the coach that rather than screaming (distorts face, echoes LOUDLY) he should talk normally and use hand gestures to show what he wants. A lot of the signing he would use (if he knew how to sign) when teaching swimming is more like mime than individual signs. So, he does that. He has always done that anyway, he joked that was part of being a swim coach. Our head coach is big bear of a man, who is actually a real sweetheart. But honestly, the best thing we did for Ian was to make sure he could swim and knew pool safety from us, not expecting the school to teach it to him. When we go to the pool (almost daily in the summer) my kids start off with their laps where they had to swim with a certain stroke (they started with the breast stroke) and then they could play. It seems they always played using a version of the dog paddle no matter how we worked with them, to we started the lap routine. When we began, they swam one lap the width of the pool (the short measure) with one of us swimming along side of them. I think taking Deanna to family swims where you work with her is a great idea! We found that the more the kids were in the water, the more comfortable they were and the quicker they learned to swim well. Best -- Jill PS: my hubby was terrified of the water as a kid,. His parents felt the best way to conquer it was to learn to swim, so he knew he couldn't drown easily. So he could be in control. (Both of his siblings swam easily) He ended up loving it and one of his summer jobs in high school was as a life guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Elias takes swimming class once a week as part of his preschool program (which is at a YWCA). We've never done anything special, except stress to the teachers that they have to make sure the hearing aids are OUT when he gets in the pool!! When he started last year, I did talk to the head of the swimming program about his situation (he has low muscle tone in addition to hearing aids, and a really ugly scar across his abdomen). But that is about it. I think this year, i will go through the drill again with the swimming director, and stress that the instructors need to make sure they are facing Elias when they speak to him. I think this year, there will be more complicated directions, since Elias is moving to the top of the preschool swim lesson chain now. We also swim with Elias at the town pool, so I know that Elias really can't hear much in a swimming pool. He is also moderate-to-severe, bilateral loss. Bonnie > > Hi, > > My daughters class this year will have swimming every Friday morning. > Deanna wears hearing aids and uses an fm system in mainstream school. She is > the only student in the district with hearing aids. Her hearing is snhl > mod-severe and she doesn't know how to swim. The entire class of 24 second > graders will be in the pool at the same time. > > I called the school today to set up a meeting with the swim coach but they > haven't called back yet. I was wondering what others have done in the same > circumstances. Should she have an aide in the pool with her for safety and > to ensure she understands directions? She wouldn't be able to hear most of > what he says to the class and although she reads lips very well, visibility > will be difficult in the pool. There are bright lights and one entire wall > of the pool area is floor to ceiling windows. And I think she'll be mostly > concentrating on staying above the water. > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Thanks everyone for the feedback. It eased my mind about the swimming class. I'm a worrier so I worry about everything. And I found out from Deanna last night that they are looking for parent volunteers so my husband will be going. We'll talk to the coach too. Deanna loves going in the pool but doesn't like to put her face in the water. She can do the doggie paddle but with someone holding her. Since they are going every week for the entire year, she will certainly learn how to swim and she'll have lots of fun too. Thanks, Tara Deanna, 7 mod-severe --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 There's also a waterproof hearing aid that works pretty well. It's made by Rion and we have it and it works really fine for children I think up to about a severe hearing loss. We use it for bathtime also and swimming. We only bought one but it's really made things easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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