Re: Vitamin E and Behavior

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had my two sons on the omegas and vit. E - one with Apraxia and

one with no issues at all. My 'no issues' son has had the most

behavioural problems of the two. He was very emmotional (lots of

crying without reason), aggresive, irritable and excitable. His

voice would become very high pitched at times and he would be

impossible to calm down and if you tried to calm him he would lash

out and start hitting, kicking and screaming - all this from a 6

year old boy that has and never has had any issues at all! It

became too much so after about 3 weeks of having been on the vitamin

E, I took him off it and he is now back to his normal happy,

carefree self. I have continued with the omegas as he had been on

them for months before the E without a problem. My Apraxic son has

had sleep issues (no longer has his usual 2-3 hour afternoon nap but

is so exhausted by the end of the day he becomes slightly

hyperactive)and can be a little more defiant than he used to be but

has not experienced the same problems as my other son so he

continues to take both omegas and vitamin E. My thoughts were that

perhaps my 'no issues' son had such a reaction because he did not

lack vitamin E and therefore did not need supplementing yet my

apraxic son does, so his body doesn't react to it so negatively.

Kind of confuses your theory though doesn't it?!!

Katrina

>

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A good question. Don't know. However is a child is suffering from a

vit E deficiency for whatever reason, I would image that a huge

number of changes are going on once you start to fix it. Are you

also giving omega 3? Have you seen any improvement in speech or

coordination?

I am giving vit E to my non-apraxia " normal " daughter who has

asthma, and I started taking it myself. The only side effect we've

seen was no asthma exacerbation with our last 2 colds (which has

never happened for either one of us). -

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had my two sons on the omegas and vit. E - one with Apraxia and

one with no issues at all. My 'no issues' son has had the most

behavioural problems of the two. He was very emmotional (lots of

crying without reason), aggresive, irritable and excitable. His

voice would become very high pitched at times and he would be

impossible to calm down and if you tried to calm him he would lash

out and start hitting, kicking and screaming - all this from a 6

year old boy that has and never has had any issues at all! It

became too much so after about 3 weeks of having been on the vitamin

E, I took him off it and he is now back to his normal happy,

carefree self. I have continued with the omegas as he had been on

them for months before the E without a problem. My Apraxic son has

had sleep issues (no longer has his usual 2-3 hour afternoon nap but

is so exhausted by the end of the day he becomes slightly

hyperactive)and can be a little more defiant than he used to be but

has not experienced the same problems as my other son so he

continues to take both omegas and vitamin E. My thoughts were that

perhaps my 'no issues' son had such a reaction because he did not

lack vitamin E and therefore did not need supplementing yet my

apraxic son does, so his body doesn't react to it so negatively.

Kind of confuses your theory though doesn't it?!!

Katrina

>

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A good question. Don't know. However is a child is suffering from a

vit E deficiency for whatever reason, I would image that a huge

number of changes are going on once you start to fix it. Are you

also giving omega 3? Have you seen any improvement in speech or

coordination?

I am giving vit E to my non-apraxia " normal " daughter who has

asthma, and I started taking it myself. The only side effect we've

seen was no asthma exacerbation with our last 2 colds (which has

never happened for either one of us). -

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and Katrina,

My son has been on the Nordic Naturals Omega Complete since May. I noticed

big improvements with that. He hit a plateau, so I tried giving him one EPA

as well, but had no results. Now I'm trying 4 Omegas w/the Vit. E and

haven't noticed anything yet. (Any suggestions on new Omega

dosages/formulations? I am so missing the great strides he had been

making!)

Well, as far as who responds to Vit .E and for whatever reasons, 'tis

puzzling. I am wondering how Vitamin E interacts with brain chemistry, and

in what capacity is it responsible for speech mechanisms. My son has been

such a handful. So then I wonder why its components produce these results.

Kind of like " Here is the effect, and what chemistry comprises the cause. "

Katrina, we had our first conference last night. Grant has really improved

and met all his IEP goals. I was disappointed that I couldn't discuss any

other issues, such as apraxia and cluttering. But his IEP review is at the

end of November, so I'll be able to address these things then.

Thanks everybody,

On 11/3/06, trina3103 <trina3103@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I had my two sons on the omegas and vit. E - one with Apraxia and

> one with no issues at all. My 'no issues' son has had the most

> behavioural problems of the two. He was very emmotional (lots of

> crying without reason), aggresive, irritable and excitable. His

> voice would become very high pitched at times and he would be

> impossible to calm down and if you tried to calm him he would lash

> out and start hitting, kicking and screaming - all this from a 6

> year old boy that has and never has had any issues at all! It

> became too much so after about 3 weeks of having been on the vitamin

> E, I took him off it and he is now back to his normal happy,

> carefree self. I have continued with the omegas as he had been on

> them for months before the E without a problem. My Apraxic son has

> had sleep issues (no longer has his usual 2-3 hour afternoon nap but

> is so exhausted by the end of the day he becomes slightly

> hyperactive)and can be a little more defiant than he used to be but

> has not experienced the same problems as my other son so he

> continues to take both omegas and vitamin E. My thoughts were that

> perhaps my 'no issues' son had such a reaction because he did not

> lack vitamin E and therefore did not need supplementing yet my

> apraxic son does, so his body doesn't react to it so negatively.

> Kind of confuses your theory though doesn't it?!!

> Katrina

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> >

> > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> For example,

> > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> etc. Well I

> > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> irritable,

> > acting out and excitable.

> >

> > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> effects with

> > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> need this

> > vitamin?

> >

> > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi and Katrina,

My son has been on the Nordic Naturals Omega Complete since May. I noticed

big improvements with that. He hit a plateau, so I tried giving him one EPA

as well, but had no results. Now I'm trying 4 Omegas w/the Vit. E and

haven't noticed anything yet. (Any suggestions on new Omega

dosages/formulations? I am so missing the great strides he had been

making!)

Well, as far as who responds to Vit .E and for whatever reasons, 'tis

puzzling. I am wondering how Vitamin E interacts with brain chemistry, and

in what capacity is it responsible for speech mechanisms. My son has been

such a handful. So then I wonder why its components produce these results.

Kind of like " Here is the effect, and what chemistry comprises the cause. "

Katrina, we had our first conference last night. Grant has really improved

and met all his IEP goals. I was disappointed that I couldn't discuss any

other issues, such as apraxia and cluttering. But his IEP review is at the

end of November, so I'll be able to address these things then.

Thanks everybody,

On 11/3/06, trina3103 <trina3103@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I had my two sons on the omegas and vit. E - one with Apraxia and

> one with no issues at all. My 'no issues' son has had the most

> behavioural problems of the two. He was very emmotional (lots of

> crying without reason), aggresive, irritable and excitable. His

> voice would become very high pitched at times and he would be

> impossible to calm down and if you tried to calm him he would lash

> out and start hitting, kicking and screaming - all this from a 6

> year old boy that has and never has had any issues at all! It

> became too much so after about 3 weeks of having been on the vitamin

> E, I took him off it and he is now back to his normal happy,

> carefree self. I have continued with the omegas as he had been on

> them for months before the E without a problem. My Apraxic son has

> had sleep issues (no longer has his usual 2-3 hour afternoon nap but

> is so exhausted by the end of the day he becomes slightly

> hyperactive)and can be a little more defiant than he used to be but

> has not experienced the same problems as my other son so he

> continues to take both omegas and vitamin E. My thoughts were that

> perhaps my 'no issues' son had such a reaction because he did not

> lack vitamin E and therefore did not need supplementing yet my

> apraxic son does, so his body doesn't react to it so negatively.

> Kind of confuses your theory though doesn't it?!!

> Katrina

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> >

> > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> For example,

> > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> etc. Well I

> > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> irritable,

> > acting out and excitable.

> >

> > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> effects with

> > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> need this

> > vitamin?

> >

> > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > >

> > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> > For example,

> > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> > etc. Well I

> > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> > irritable,

> > > acting out and excitable.

> > >

> > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> > effects with

> > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> > need this

> > > vitamin?

> > >

> > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > >

> > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> > For example,

> > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> > etc. Well I

> > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> > irritable,

> > > acting out and excitable.

> > >

> > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> > effects with

> > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> > need this

> > > vitamin?

> > >

> > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thought I'd run this Vit. E product by you, and see what you think about its

contents. Maybe what to add, change, etc. I'm confused with the gamma

stuff. I hope it'll soak in eventually.

This is the product: Carlson's E-Gems Elite (Natural Source Vit. E)

Serving: 1 softgel

Label: Vit. E ( as d-Alpha Tocopherol) 400 IU

d-Gamma Tocopherol 100mg

d-Beta & d-Delta Tocopherol 40mg

Total tocotrienols 20mg

It says that the tocotrienols are supplied by palm and rice oil

concentrates.

From what you are saying, then this Gamma amount is too low compared to the

Alpha? Why would manufacturers produce this imbalance? Is it because it is

only critical when supplementing for language, etc.? Should the extra Gamma

be given at each dosing, or is it just a once a day addition? Are there any

Vit. E products that already contain the appropriate ratios for our

children?

When you're talking about bumping the EFA's up, do you mean the EFA's in the

form of the Nordic Naturals Omega Completes (3-6-9)?

Thanks so much for your time (and patience!)

On 11/4/06, claudia.morris <claudia.morris@...> wrote:

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > > >

> > > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> > > For example,

> > > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> > > etc. Well I

> > > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> > > irritable,

> > > > acting out and excitable.

> > > >

> > > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> > > effects with

> > > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> > > need this

> > > > vitamin?

> > > >

> > > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

My son JoeJoe has been on Omega 369 for a little over a year now, he experienced

tremendous amounts of speech from this wonderful Vitamin/supplement. Two weeks

ago I started JoeJoe on vitamin E and a high Gamma, I did not notice anything

speech related but I did notice a little issue with his behavior which I chalked

up to being " typical kid behavior " . A week after starting the high gamma I added

another dose of vitamin E.....This past Friday I received a phone call from his

school Teacher, it seems that JoeJoe has been having some major

behavior/aggressive issues at school. All starting about the same time that I

started the high gamma's. My husband and I decided it was in his best interest

to stop giving JoeJoe the Gamma and E. We also sat down and went over his

behavior at home and seriously thought about when we noticed the change. It was

when we added the gamma. This vitamin/supplement did not agree with JoeJoe at

all. He became someone that I did not like. I have not

given him a dose since Thursday and I spent the weekend giving him lots of

water, orange juice and some other juices in an attempt to " detox " ? his Lil body

of this vitamin that seems to have caused alot of problems. I love this

wonderful " family " network we have and I will confess that I was a bit relieved

that there are parents who also experienced this type of behavior in their child

when giving them the vitamin E. I will continue with the Omega's and will just

count my blessings for them and for the wonderful parents on this list who share

their experiences. Thank you....Tammy

Life is too short to spend it placing blame on things and people who no longer

make a difference.

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[Guest guest]

My son JoeJoe has been on Omega 369 for a little over a year now, he experienced

tremendous amounts of speech from this wonderful Vitamin/supplement. Two weeks

ago I started JoeJoe on vitamin E and a high Gamma, I did not notice anything

speech related but I did notice a little issue with his behavior which I chalked

up to being " typical kid behavior " . A week after starting the high gamma I added

another dose of vitamin E.....This past Friday I received a phone call from his

school Teacher, it seems that JoeJoe has been having some major

behavior/aggressive issues at school. All starting about the same time that I

started the high gamma's. My husband and I decided it was in his best interest

to stop giving JoeJoe the Gamma and E. We also sat down and went over his

behavior at home and seriously thought about when we noticed the change. It was

when we added the gamma. This vitamin/supplement did not agree with JoeJoe at

all. He became someone that I did not like. I have not

given him a dose since Thursday and I spent the weekend giving him lots of

water, orange juice and some other juices in an attempt to " detox " ? his Lil body

of this vitamin that seems to have caused alot of problems. I love this

wonderful " family " network we have and I will confess that I was a bit relieved

that there are parents who also experienced this type of behavior in their child

when giving them the vitamin E. I will continue with the Omega's and will just

count my blessings for them and for the wonderful parents on this list who share

their experiences. Thank you....Tammy

Life is too short to spend it placing blame on things and people who no longer

make a difference.

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[Guest guest]

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their

children.

> > > > For example,

> > > > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of

sleep,

> > > > etc. Well I

> > > > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well,

e.g.,

> > > > irritable,

> > > > > acting out and excitable.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the

same

> > > > effects with

> > > > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their

brains

> > > > need this

> > > > > vitamin?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their

children.

> > > > For example,

> > > > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of

sleep,

> > > > etc. Well I

> > > > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well,

e.g.,

> > > > irritable,

> > > > > acting out and excitable.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the

same

> > > > effects with

> > > > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their

brains

> > > > need this

> > > > > vitamin?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy, My granddaughter also reacted to vitamin E in two days or

so by becoming impulsive and aggressive, not at all herself. Behavior

included scratching people, biting her mother, and pulling other

children's hair. Her mother took her off of vitamin E after a week and

she returned to her normal self within several days. Apparently she

is not one of those deficient in E. She continues on the Omega

supplements she's been taking for 2 years, which have seemed to help

with her attention issues though not with her speech. She remains

severly apraxic at 4 1/2. She communicates by ASL, a huge help to her

and all of us. Betsy

>

> My son JoeJoe has been on Omega 369 for a little over a year now, he

experienced tremendous amounts of speech from this wonderful

Vitamin/supplement. Two weeks ago I started JoeJoe on vitamin E and a

high Gamma, I did not notice anything speech related but I did notice

a little issue with his behavior which I chalked up to being " typical

kid behavior " . A week after starting the high gamma I added another

dose of vitamin E.....This past Friday I received a phone call from

his school Teacher, it seems that JoeJoe has been having some major

behavior/aggressive issues at school. All starting about the same time

that I started the high gamma's. My husband and I decided it was in

his best interest to stop giving JoeJoe the Gamma and E. We also sat

down and went over his behavior at home and seriously thought about

when we noticed the change. It was when we added the gamma. This

vitamin/supplement did not agree with JoeJoe at all. He became someone

that I did not like. I have not

> given him a dose since Thursday and I spent the weekend giving him

lots of water, orange juice and some other juices in an attempt to

" detox " ? his Lil body of this vitamin that seems to have caused alot

of problems. I love this wonderful " family " network we have and I will

confess that I was a bit relieved that there are parents who also

experienced this type of behavior in their child when giving them the

vitamin E. I will continue with the Omega's and will just count my

blessings for them and for the wonderful parents on this list who

share their experiences. Thank you....Tammy

>

> Life is too short to spend it placing blame on things and people who

no longer make a difference.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy, My granddaughter also reacted to vitamin E in two days or

so by becoming impulsive and aggressive, not at all herself. Behavior

included scratching people, biting her mother, and pulling other

children's hair. Her mother took her off of vitamin E after a week and

she returned to her normal self within several days. Apparently she

is not one of those deficient in E. She continues on the Omega

supplements she's been taking for 2 years, which have seemed to help

with her attention issues though not with her speech. She remains

severly apraxic at 4 1/2. She communicates by ASL, a huge help to her

and all of us. Betsy

>

> My son JoeJoe has been on Omega 369 for a little over a year now, he

experienced tremendous amounts of speech from this wonderful

Vitamin/supplement. Two weeks ago I started JoeJoe on vitamin E and a

high Gamma, I did not notice anything speech related but I did notice

a little issue with his behavior which I chalked up to being " typical

kid behavior " . A week after starting the high gamma I added another

dose of vitamin E.....This past Friday I received a phone call from

his school Teacher, it seems that JoeJoe has been having some major

behavior/aggressive issues at school. All starting about the same time

that I started the high gamma's. My husband and I decided it was in

his best interest to stop giving JoeJoe the Gamma and E. We also sat

down and went over his behavior at home and seriously thought about

when we noticed the change. It was when we added the gamma. This

vitamin/supplement did not agree with JoeJoe at all. He became someone

that I did not like. I have not

> given him a dose since Thursday and I spent the weekend giving him

lots of water, orange juice and some other juices in an attempt to

" detox " ? his Lil body of this vitamin that seems to have caused alot

of problems. I love this wonderful " family " network we have and I will

confess that I was a bit relieved that there are parents who also

experienced this type of behavior in their child when giving them the

vitamin E. I will continue with the Omega's and will just count my

blessings for them and for the wonderful parents on this list who

share their experiences. Thank you....Tammy

>

> Life is too short to spend it placing blame on things and people who

no longer make a difference.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes in

behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely saw

periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit E

experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic advances

in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper tantrum

shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and NEVER

had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal either).

Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental behavior

(even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for him.

Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's a

normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation thing

too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So there

was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the larger

picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

nothing...because that also hurt.

If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits coming

with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your child.

At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it may

be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through phases

normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or not.

It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects " continue to

post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes in

behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely saw

periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit E

experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic advances

in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper tantrum

shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and NEVER

had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal either).

Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental behavior

(even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for him.

Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's a

normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation thing

too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So there

was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the larger

picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

nothing...because that also hurt.

If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits coming

with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your child.

At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it may

be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through phases

normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or not.

It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects " continue to

post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

> Hi All,

> My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

>

> I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

For example,

> irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

etc. Well I

> have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

irritable,

> acting out and excitable.

>

> I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

effects with

> Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

need this

> vitamin?

>

> I've been wondering about this for a while.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't started my son on Vitamin E yet, but when we moved his

fish oil dose to twice a day there was OMG crazy behavior! For

about 2 weeks straight he was like a tornado. I am talking about

flushing things down toilets, swiping bookshelves empty, emptying

dresser drawers, stringing toilet paper through the house, getting

mad at his brother over everything and anything. He couldn't be out

of our sight or he was doing something extremely naughty! We have

been on this for a month now, and he is just now back to the way he

was before upping his dose. Lots of new words and repeating, so it

was worth it to go through that horrible storm!!! I am sure we will

experience the same type of behavior when we start the Vit. E or go

to the next dose.

Tina

>

> Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes in

> behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely saw

> periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit E

> experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic advances

> in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper tantrum

> shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and NEVER

> had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal either).

> Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental behavior

> (even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for

him.

> Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

> handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

> little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

> know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's a

> normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

> silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation thing

> too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So there

> was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

> gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the larger

> picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

> pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

> nothing...because that also hurt.

>

> If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits

coming

> with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your child.

> At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

> stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

>

> If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it may

> be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through

phases

> normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or not.

>

> It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects " continue

to

> post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

>

> > Hi All,

> > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> >

> > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> For example,

> > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> etc. Well I

> > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> irritable,

> > acting out and excitable.

> >

> > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> effects with

> > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> need this

> > vitamin?

> >

> > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes

in

> > behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely

saw

> > periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit

E

> > experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic

advances

> > in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper

tantrum

> > shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and

NEVER

> > had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal

either).

> > Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental

behavior

> > (even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for

> him.

> > Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

> > handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

> > little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

> > know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's

a

> > normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

> > silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation

thing

> > too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So

there

> > was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

> > gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the

larger

> > picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

> > pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

> > nothing...because that also hurt.

> >

> > If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits

> coming

> > with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your

child.

> > At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

> > stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

> >

> > If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it

may

> > be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through

> phases

> > normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or

not.

> >

> > It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects "

continue

> to

> > post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

> >

> > > Hi All,

> > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > >

> > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their

children.

> > For example,

> > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of

sleep,

> > etc. Well I

> > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well,

e.g.,

> > irritable,

> > > acting out and excitable.

> > >

> > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> > effects with

> > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their

brains

> > need this

> > > vitamin?

> > >

> > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I haven't started my son on Vitamin E yet, but when we moved his

fish oil dose to twice a day there was OMG crazy behavior! For

about 2 weeks straight he was like a tornado. I am talking about

flushing things down toilets, swiping bookshelves empty, emptying

dresser drawers, stringing toilet paper through the house, getting

mad at his brother over everything and anything. He couldn't be out

of our sight or he was doing something extremely naughty! We have

been on this for a month now, and he is just now back to the way he

was before upping his dose. Lots of new words and repeating, so it

was worth it to go through that horrible storm!!! I am sure we will

experience the same type of behavior when we start the Vit. E or go

to the next dose.

Tina

>

> Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes in

> behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely saw

> periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit E

> experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic advances

> in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper tantrum

> shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and NEVER

> had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal either).

> Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental behavior

> (even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for

him.

> Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

> handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

> little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

> know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's a

> normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

> silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation thing

> too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So there

> was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

> gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the larger

> picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

> pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

> nothing...because that also hurt.

>

> If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits

coming

> with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your child.

> At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

> stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

>

> If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it may

> be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through

phases

> normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or not.

>

> It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects " continue

to

> post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

>

> > Hi All,

> > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> >

> > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their children.

> For example,

> > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of sleep,

> etc. Well I

> > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well, e.g.,

> irritable,

> > acting out and excitable.

> >

> > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> effects with

> > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their brains

> need this

> > vitamin?

> >

> > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Are you seeing any benefits with the vitamin E or just changes

in

> > behavior? Are you also giving it with omega 3? We definitely

saw

> > periods of transient behavioral changes during our omega and vit

E

> > experiences with ph, but it was coming with fantastic

advances

> > in speech and coordination. ph threw his first temper

tantrum

> > shortly after we started the vit E. (But he was nearly 3 and

NEVER

> > had a temper tantrum before...that wasn't exactly normal

either).

> > Much of what I was seeing in him was normal developmental

behavior

> > (even if not necessarily desirable), but it was a " change " for

> him.

> > Things eventually evened out. He is definitely not as " easy " to

> > handle as he used to be, but he is now a mischievious, playful

> > little 3 year old with a great sense of humor...who will let you

> > know when he is not happy with you (by screaming) etc...but he's

a

> > normal kid with good days and bad days too. I DO NOT miss the

> > silence. He definitely struggled with the new pain sensation

thing

> > too. Pain is not fun. He had never experienced it before. So

there

> > was also a lot more crying with the bumps and falls...because my

> > gosh...it hurt! Again, I saw that as a good thing - in the

larger

> > picture, but had to kiss a lot more boo-boos. He also stopped

> > pulling off his toenails and biting his fingernails down to

> > nothing...because that also hurt.

> >

> > If behaviour is over the top, and there are not good benefits

> coming

> > with it, then it is not the appropriate supplement for your

child.

> > At least you tried it..., unfortunately it didn't help...time to

> > stop it. This certainly will not be the fix for everyone.

> >

> > If there are surges with a little more difficult behavior, it

may

> > be worth trying to wait out the storm. These kids go through

> phases

> > normally - that can last 2-3 weeks, whether on supplements or

not.

> >

> > It is so important that those experiencing " bad effects "

continue

> to

> > post too. This is a learning process for all of us. -claudia

> >

> > > Hi All,

> > > My son has been on 400 IU natural Vit, E for 2 weeks.

> > >

> > > I had been reading about others' experiences w/their

children.

> > For example,

> > > irritability, acting out, hyperactivity, loss/or need of

sleep,

> > etc. Well I

> > > have found my son to be very difficult to handle as well,

e.g.,

> > irritable,

> > > acting out and excitable.

> > >

> > > I have a question here. Could typical children have the same

> > effects with

> > > Vit. E? Or is this unique to our children because their

brains

> > need this

> > > vitamin?

> > >

> > > I've been wondering about this for a while.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >