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>I had the same problem with Casey while she was on the diet. The

doctors found out that Casey was starting to got through puberty

early and that was why she was gaining the weight not just the diet.

Not sure if this will help you out but this was what was the reason

Casey still gained on the diet for us

Thanks

Shpankys wife

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Casey is doing great! there were 2 other children at the hospital

that had a partial callosotomy done were as Casey's was a full. The

doctors said Casey did the best out of the kids.We are very gratful

for all the prayers that people said. Casey is walking,talking and

doing better everyday. The only thing we have noticed is she is

having some trouble with her left hand but that is all. Thank you I

am hoping that you are able to find out what is going on with your

child it is very hard for a mother when you don't get the answers

that are needed.

Carol

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Hi . Kristan was quite chunky when she started the diet and

was put on low calories and lost the weight. You need to wait at

least two weeks before you make any changes and as you have probably

read from other posts, do one thing at a time. I think you should

reduce anywhere from 50-100 calories. I hope some of the other

parents answer on that as I thought I read that in a previous post.

I know when we are raising calories for Kristan, we always wait about

two to three weeks and raise by 80-100 calories. You should probably

get her weighed every week or two weeks on the same scale for

consistency. Kristan is weighed every two weeks, but whenever we do

a ratio/calorie change we get her weighed every week until we know

her weight is constant. Is very active? If not, then maybe she

should be at the lower calories, b/c Kristan is not that active and

that's why she is on the lower calories for her age. What is your

dietitian's suggestion? Hope this helps.

Satnam, mom to Kristan, 20 months

Keto kid since August 2003

> I need some input from you folks!!!

>

> We are just back from 's " weigh in " at the neuros. In six

weeks

> on the diet she had gained 4 lbs. Then, when I realized she had

gone

> from 35+lbs to 39+lbs, she had a calorie reduction of 150

calories.

> That was two weeks ago. Well, there has been no weight loss. Zero.

>

> Just before this time of calorie reduction I also lowered her ratio

> from 4:1 to 3.5:1; then to 3:1 . and she acts like she is feeling

> better, acidosis is not always on our doorstep, and her ketones

> lowered at the ratio drop, but when the calorie drop came they went

> back up.

>

> Overall, the calorie drop seemed to bother her for a bit, I did it

in

> two steps, but the ratio drop didn't seem to at all.

>

> Okay.... she seems very stable right now. Ratio is producing good

> ketones; weight is a constant. She needs to take some weight off.

> She was chunky to start with!

>

> Any suggestions? How long would be a good wait until I reduce

> calories, again? How many calories should I drop?

>

> Has anyone had this problem and dealt with it successfully. It was

> my understanding children were prone to lose weight on this diet,

not

> gain it, and gain so quickly. She has never gained weight this

fast,

> ever! And, she is not growing.

>

> Thanks for any input. I am in a quandry as what to do. is

> feeling good, and hadn't been before the calorie drop.

>

> , 's mum

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Hi . Kristan was quite chunky when she started the diet and

was put on low calories and lost the weight. You need to wait at

least two weeks before you make any changes and as you have probably

read from other posts, do one thing at a time. I think you should

reduce anywhere from 50-100 calories. I hope some of the other

parents answer on that as I thought I read that in a previous post.

I know when we are raising calories for Kristan, we always wait about

two to three weeks and raise by 80-100 calories. You should probably

get her weighed every week or two weeks on the same scale for

consistency. Kristan is weighed every two weeks, but whenever we do

a ratio/calorie change we get her weighed every week until we know

her weight is constant. Is very active? If not, then maybe she

should be at the lower calories, b/c Kristan is not that active and

that's why she is on the lower calories for her age. What is your

dietitian's suggestion? Hope this helps.

Satnam, mom to Kristan, 20 months

Keto kid since August 2003

> I need some input from you folks!!!

>

> We are just back from 's " weigh in " at the neuros. In six

weeks

> on the diet she had gained 4 lbs. Then, when I realized she had

gone

> from 35+lbs to 39+lbs, she had a calorie reduction of 150

calories.

> That was two weeks ago. Well, there has been no weight loss. Zero.

>

> Just before this time of calorie reduction I also lowered her ratio

> from 4:1 to 3.5:1; then to 3:1 . and she acts like she is feeling

> better, acidosis is not always on our doorstep, and her ketones

> lowered at the ratio drop, but when the calorie drop came they went

> back up.

>

> Overall, the calorie drop seemed to bother her for a bit, I did it

in

> two steps, but the ratio drop didn't seem to at all.

>

> Okay.... she seems very stable right now. Ratio is producing good

> ketones; weight is a constant. She needs to take some weight off.

> She was chunky to start with!

>

> Any suggestions? How long would be a good wait until I reduce

> calories, again? How many calories should I drop?

>

> Has anyone had this problem and dealt with it successfully. It was

> my understanding children were prone to lose weight on this diet,

not

> gain it, and gain so quickly. She has never gained weight this

fast,

> ever! And, she is not growing.

>

> Thanks for any input. I am in a quandry as what to do. is

> feeling good, and hadn't been before the calorie drop.

>

> , 's mum

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The most common " error " when starting the diet is having calories set

too high. Now you have the " correct " calorie level and weight is

constant; no surprise there. I don't think that you have a problem.

Everything seems to be working very well. I wouldn't change anything for

at least 2 weeks, probably a month.

You should be taking accurate weight every week to fine tune the diet.

Good luck,

Bill

frumpymumma wrote:

> I need some input from you folks!!!

>

> We are just back from 's " weigh in " at the neuros. In six weeks

> on the diet she had gained 4 lbs. Then, when I realized she had gone

> from 35+lbs to 39+lbs, she had a calorie reduction of 150 calories.

> That was two weeks ago. Well, there has been no weight loss. Zero.

>

> Just before this time of calorie reduction I also lowered her ratio

> from 4:1 to 3.5:1; then to 3:1 . and she acts like she is feeling

> better, acidosis is not always on our doorstep, and her ketones

> lowered at the ratio drop, but when the calorie drop came they went

> back up.

>

> Overall, the calorie drop seemed to bother her for a bit, I did it in

> two steps, but the ratio drop didn't seem to at all.

>

> Okay.... she seems very stable right now. Ratio is producing good

> ketones; weight is a constant. She needs to take some weight off.

> She was chunky to start with!

>

> Any suggestions? How long would be a good wait until I reduce

> calories, again? How many calories should I drop?

>

> Has anyone had this problem and dealt with it successfully. It was

> my understanding children were prone to lose weight on this diet, not

> gain it, and gain so quickly. She has never gained weight this fast,

> ever! And, she is not growing.

>

> Thanks for any input. I am in a quandry as what to do. is

> feeling good, and hadn't been before the calorie drop.

>

> , 's mum

>

>

>

>

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If everything is going well, I wouldn't make any changes. If the high

ketones at night are a problem, you could give a bit of apple juice then.

Bill

Falk wrote:

> Yes, we have started weighing in every week. I keep thinking she will go

down, but not yet. She is complaining of hunger this week, so maybe we will see

a loss tomorrow when we go.

>

> Ketones remain pretty high at 3:1 and there may be a lowering of ratio

ahead. From now on I would go .25 down... as ketones only seem nasty high at

night, and not always.

>

> Having her feel good is so nice, so I do hesitate to make any changes. Thanks

for your input.

>

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