Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I've been told they will NOT accomodate prisoners. That to me is pretty much a Human Rights violation, but I don't know where to turn to bring light to it.... If you get any ideas on action that could be taken to change that, let me know! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 My boyfriend and I just discussed this not too long ago when he was in co. jail for a stupid drunk moment. He asked, and they said that if you have a diagnosis written from a doctor they will bring in special food for you. They are required to provide special meals for all medical diets if requested and have proof from a doctor. > > I remember not too long ago that someone posted saying that Celiacs cant > join the Armed Forces because the pre-made meals arent gluten free and they > cannot accomodate a GF free diet. That got me thinking about people in > jail/prison who have Celiac. Does anyone know if they accomodate Celiacs? (No, Im > NOT asking for myself) haha Just curious. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Sorry, I'm of the view that, if you did something SOOO bad you got put into prison, you lost your rights. CD, porn, rogain, etc...you LOST all your rights when you violated someone else's SO BADLY. It's a human rights violation of someone else to get yourself INTO prison---once you are there, that's YOUR TOUGH LUCK. I think all prisoners should be taken care of by their families. If the families don't care enough to feed & clothe you, so be it. Yes, it's tough love--but they asked for it. Sorry---it just gets me SO mad when people start claiming rights violations of prisoners when they HURT someone SOOO BADLY they got sent to prison. I know I've offended 3/4 of the group--but that's my feeling. I do not like having to pay tax dollars to support dead-beats who need a special diet! Laurel > > I've been told they will NOT accomodate prisoners. That to me is pretty much a Human Rights violation, but I don't know where to turn to bring light to it.... If you get any ideas on action that could be taken to change that, let me know! > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 i personally can't imagine (thoughts on the prison system aside) that any prison cook or whatever would sufficiently know how to prepare food gluten-free anyway! you know? I bet there'd be cross-contamination galore! i guess the message is to celiacs: don't go to jail! :)Laurel S wrote: Sorry, I'm of the view that, if you did something SOOO bad you got put into prison, you lost your rights. CD, porn, rogain, etc...you LOST all your rights when you violated someone else's SO BADLY. It's a human rights violation of someone else to get yourself INTO prison---once you are there, that's YOUR TOUGH LUCK. I think all prisoners should be taken care of by their families. If the families don't care enough to feed & clothe you, so be it. Yes, it's tough love--but they asked for it. Sorry---it just gets me SO mad when people start claiming rights violations of prisoners when they HURT someone SOOO BADLY they got sent to prison. I know I've offended 3/4 of the group--but that's my feeling. I do not like having to pay tax dollars to support dead-beats who need a special diet! Laurel > > I've been told they will NOT accomodate prisoners. That to me is pretty much a Human Rights violation, but I don't know where to turn to bring light to it.... If you get any ideas on action that could be taken to change that, let me know! > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 that's funny! I was thinking about that once myself! (not expecting to be in jail for anything, just wondering what others do). I would think they would have to provide a gluten free meal. They have to provide all these other things so they don't infinge on prison's "rights". Ok, enough said- not starting any political discussions. Just an interesting question you brought up. Sonja Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 That is untrue. They are required to accomidate a true medically necessary diet. You will need proof and a diagnoses but they will accomidate a diet. This information came straight from the experts (deputys at jail). They bring the " special diet " plates in seperate. > > I've been told they will NOT accomodate prisoners. That to me is pretty much a Human Rights violation, but I don't know where to turn to bring light to it.... If you get any ideas on action that could be taken to change that, let me know! > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Not everyone in jail and prison did something " SOOO bad " to get there. Sure some have commited a horrible crime that destroyed someones life but not all. Yes they made a mistake and earned their time there but to deny them their medically necessary need is unhuman! They can not do that. I agree they do not deserve porn, rogaine, ect. those things are not a NEED. They absolutely should not get things like that. A gf meal if they have CD is a need!You do not loose all your rights just because you are incarcerated! Someday when someone you care about is in a bad situation you might change your outlook. Not everyone incarcerated has commited a violent crime. > > > > I've been told they will NOT accomodate prisoners. That to me is > pretty much a Human Rights violation, but I don't know where to turn to > bring light to it.... If you get any ideas on action that could be > taken to change that, let me know! > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I don’t care what you did. If you ended up in prison you broke the law. So why should you have any rights in prison. Sleep on the floor, no TV none of this stuff, Diet yes but nothing else you broke the law. And before you get all over me I do know people in prison and some that are out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 > > I don't care what you did. If you ended up in prison you broke the law. > So why should you have any rights in prison. Sleep on the floor, no TV > none of this stuff, Diet yes but nothing else you broke the law. And > before you get all over me I do know people in prison and some that are > out now. Maybe we should treat them like human beings instead of animals exactly because some day they will be out of prison amoung us again? I personally would prefer former inmates to have a chance at becoming productive citizens instead of angry, vicious predators who will commit a worse crime next time. A safe diet is a basic human right, as medical care should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 This is getting WWAAAYY off topic. Not all people are in prison because they broke the law. Some are there because a court decided they are guilty. That is not nearly the same thing as actually being guilty. Not to mention being held in contempt of court for some silly little thing. A prison sentence is for a specific punishment for a specific crime, it does not mean lack of medical care, violence and pain, indignity are part of that punishment - those kind of prison reforms changed long ago. To say that once someone is in jail they lose ALL right to even human dignity is saying torture of any kind is ok, once someone has become a ward of the court. Many women in prison are there as a result of a man - either an accessory to thing she didn't know he was doing or saving themselves from domestic violence. Are women who killed to avoid rape to be sentenced to a decade of pain, malnutrition, mental fogginess and inability to function? What about kids in juvenile prison facilities - do they have to live in constant pain too? And those that did commit serious crimes, ever wonder why they are so angry against others and society? Most are there because they did not have a loving and caring home as a child, and learned only violence and anger. Why care about a society that does not care about them. Prison only amplifies the feelings people already have, and it recreates that original trauma and helplessness that caused their problems in the first place. And you know yourselves from being that sick what it does to your emotions, being more on edge, sometimes a bit more violent or aggressive than normal. Ever think part of the violence in prison is due to the highly toxic high carb meals....and from the constant lack of dignity. It is precisely this attitude of judgment and hatred of others, deciding others are less than ourselves and not deserving of basic human dignity that is causing problems in the world. No matter what someone did, most often there are larger social, political, emotional issues so just saying guilty and sub-human does nothing to address that, and only places blame on those people already less able to defend and help themselves. If we don’t show compassion to others in need, then what kind of people are we, or what kind of society are we? Why don't we help others find their way, instead of dismissing them as sub-human. Re: Celiac in Prison > > I don't care what you did. If you ended up in prison you broke the law. > So why should you have any rights in prison. Sleep on the floor, no TV > none of this stuff, Diet yes but nothing else you broke the law. And > before you get all over me I do know people in prison and some that are > out now. Maybe we should treat them like human beings instead of animals exactly because some day they will be out of prison amoung us again? I personally would prefer former inmates to have a chance at becoming productive citizens instead of angry, vicious predators who will commit a worse crime next time. A safe diet is a basic human right, as medical care should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 They can always just feed them the stuff they serve already that GF like unmarinated meats, fruit, veggies. No one promised them yummy GF bread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 I am begging you to take this off list. It is just way too political and controversial to be on the silly site! Love ya all, Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 In the Central Valley of California where a large percentage of America’s fruits and vegetables are grown there is a Women’s Prison where not only do they not get served gluten free bread they get NO FRESH fruits or vegetables Most are canned and sometimes frozen vegetables. Prison diet is one of processed foods, which we know how difficult it is to eat. It seems utterly ridiculous that with all the fresh fruit and vegetables grown nearby that the inmates wouldn’t be able to have access to them but that is not the way government contracts work. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Yummy GF Bread? What is that????? > > They can always just feed them the stuff they serve already that GF like > unmarinated meats, fruit, veggies. No one promised them yummy GF bread! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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