Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Hi everyone ph has started ketogenic diet this monday.He seems to be tolerating the diet very well and is eating everything with no problem.He has not been pooping for 2 days so I gave him glycerin syppository tonight and he pooped with blood.His stool was also very hard.I checked his bum for any cracks but have not found anything.I am concerned about this blood.It seems to come from inside.Has anybody ever faced the same problem? Any suggestions would be greatly appraciated. Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's syndrome,keto kid since August 23th 2004,see what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Natasha, I'm glad to hear ph's first day went so smoothly. Don't be too alarmed if he starts feeling bad (sick to his stomach, lethargic) as the ketones rise and his body adjusts. It seems too early for the blood to be related to the diet and internal. I suspect it is from undetected cuts on the outside. We have this problem occassionaly, even when we can see no sign of inury on the outside. Just watch it a few days. I'll bet it will go away. Also, you might start ph on perscription Mirilax. It is not an addictive type of laxative at all. It dissolves in a glass of water, so kids don't even know they are taking it. All my doctor friends swear by it. ph has enough to deal with on this diet, don't let constipation be one of them! I hope the diet works its miracles soon for ph! Gretchen > Hi everyone > ph has started ketogenic diet this monday.He seems to be > tolerating the diet very well and is eating everything with no > problem.He has not been pooping for 2 days so I gave him glycerin > syppository tonight and he pooped with blood.His stool was also very > hard.I checked his bum for any cracks but have not found anything.I > am concerned about this blood.It seems to come from inside.Has > anybody ever faced the same problem? Any suggestions would be > greatly appraciated. > > Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's > syndrome,keto kid since August 23th 2004,see what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hi Gretchen Thanks for your reply.I think you are right and it could be from undetected cuts.I am very reluctant to add more meds but I'll keep in mind your suggestion.I calculated oat bran im meals today,so ph will be getting some fiber,hopefully it will help. Natasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 That's right, fissures from constipation can be where you can't see them without a proper Drs internal exam, and more often than not it is a small amount of blood coming from them responsible for looking like there is blood actually 'in' the stool. This we know from having lab samples done to check 's (internal fissures a charming throwback from early on in the diet before we started him on cal/mag) - can't remember the technical terms, but the one where the blood is actually 'mixed' inside the stools (lab analysis needed to confirm) is the one to worry about - means blood might be coming from inside the gut, if on the 'outside', more often than not from a small cut or tear. ----- Original Message ----- From: gretchen_kissock Natasha, I'm glad to hear ph's first day went so smoothly. Don't be too alarmed if he starts feeling bad (sick to his stomach, lethargic) as the ketones rise and his body adjusts. It seems too early for the blood to be related to the diet and internal. I suspect it is from undetected cuts on the outside. We have this problem occassionaly, even when we can see no sign of inury on the outside. Just watch it a few days. I'll bet it will go away. Also, you might start ph on perscription Mirilax. It is not an addictive type of laxative at all. It dissolves in a glass of water, so kids don't even know they are taking it. All my doctor friends swear by it. ph has enough to deal with on this diet, don't let constipation be one of them! I hope the diet works its miracles soon for ph! Gretchen > Hi everyone > ph has started ketogenic diet this monday.He seems to be > tolerating the diet very well and is eating everything with no > problem.He has not been pooping for 2 days so I gave him glycerin > syppository tonight and he pooped with blood.His stool was also very > hard.I checked his bum for any cracks but have not found anything.I > am concerned about this blood.It seems to come from inside.Has > anybody ever faced the same problem? Any suggestions would be > greatly appraciated. > > Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's > syndrome,keto kid since August 23th 2004,see what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Constipation is very common on the diet. He may have a small tear inside from pushing. Try giving the maximum allowable fluid intake, give regular magnesium supplement (we use milk of magnesia), add as much fibre as possible with the allowable vegetables and the free lettuce leaf if allowed. We had luck with ground psyllium husks that I don't calculate in as I believe that it is not digested. On the diet there is so little volume that going every 3 to 4 days is normal in some children. Bill natashagainford wrote: > Hi everyone > ph has started ketogenic diet this monday.He seems to be > tolerating the diet very well and is eating everything with no > problem.He has not been pooping for 2 days so I gave him glycerin > syppository tonight and he pooped with blood.His stool was also very > hard.I checked his bum for any cracks but have not found anything.I > am concerned about this blood.It seems to come from inside.Has > anybody ever faced the same problem? Any suggestions would be > greatly appraciated. > > Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's > syndrome,keto kid since August 23th 2004,see what will happen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Thanks and Bill ph's next poop was OK ,I think I just panic too much ! Bill,I have psyllium husks at home but I've never gave it to ph as I though you have to mix it with water and drink.Jospeh would not drink something like that.I also have oat bran and I sprinkle it over his food ( calculate in diet ) and it seems to help.Can I sprinkle psyllium husks over food? Natasha > > Hi everyone > > ph has started ketogenic diet this monday.He seems to be > > tolerating the diet very well and is eating everything with no > > problem.He has not been pooping for 2 days so I gave him glycerin > > syppository tonight and he pooped with blood.His stool was also very > > hard.I checked his bum for any cracks but have not found anything.I > > am concerned about this blood.It seems to come from inside.Has > > anybody ever faced the same problem? Any suggestions would be > > greatly appraciated. > > > > Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's > > syndrome,keto kid since August 23th 2004,see what will happen > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 I sprinkle it in the cheesecake (fritata) and sprinkle some water on it and give adequate water with the meal. You are right. It absorbs water. Oat bran is a good idea! Bill natashagainford wrote: > Thanks and Bill > ph's next poop was OK ,I think I just panic too much ! > Bill,I have psyllium husks at home but I've never gave it to ph > as I though you have to mix it with water and drink.Jospeh would not > drink something like that.I also have oat bran and I sprinkle it > over his food ( calculate in diet ) and it seems to help.Can I > sprinkle psyllium husks over food? > > Natasha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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