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Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was

first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in

your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out

that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her

right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow

in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never

had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your

stories- it meant a lot to me.

Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for

her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist

calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely

terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the

sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car,

Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for

more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm

and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming

from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do

something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid

in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any

ideas you may have for me.

Kriste

Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing

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Kriste-

Try using something that she really likes, that she only has while she

uses the HA **for a few minutes** to start. A friend used a lollipop,

which her kids could have only while sitting at the table (they were

really young). After a few sucks, away went the lollipop and off when

the HA. You can imagine how the kid really was willing to have the HA

again in order to have that treat! It took a very short time for the

kid to realize that the HAs were going to be a lot of fun!

Since your daughter had such a nasty start, she will need some guidance

to see that the HAs aren't always going to sound so nasty, and very

short tries are going to be easier for her to deal with. Is there a

timer that she is used to, or something else that she knows will take a

specific and short amount of time? Cookies in the oven, slowly pouring

water out of a gallon container into the sink, a favorite dance, etc.

will let her see that there is a specific start and stop to the event,

and it is something that you can easily model for her -- put the aid

onto your ear, pour out the water (make sure you use happy/excited

expressions!!), then when the event stops, take off the aid. That way

she can see the start and stop, and will likely be more willing to try

it out herself. Then, once she has done that, she will see that the

aids aren't going to be like when they were callibrated at the audi's

office. And the next time you go in, tell them that you want it done

another way! = )

Kacy

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Amy- Great ideas. I was all set to try the sleeping trick, but she

woke up before I did this morning. I will try it at naptime today. We

put her real aid on her babies and dolls yesterday after your

suggestion and she liked that.

Sharlene-

" My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the

audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so

insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out "

See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she

did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am

so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our

ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have

anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know

what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am

just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my

little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I

should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry

in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt.

Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I

will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right things.

Actually, I would really like to switch audiologists. The audiologist

that we are seeing is the same one we saw when Lily was tiny and she

did not explain to me then there was something potentially wrong with

Lily- she just said that the results of Lily's hearing tests were

" inconclusive " . Now we are kind of stuck with her due to their office

policy- they like to keep patients with the same doctor/audiologist

for all appointments. I understand in their opinion that this is

important for continutity of care and for establishing a relationship

with the care provider. I already made a big stink there by switching

from one ENT to another b/c the first ENT we saw had a nurse hold Lily

down just to check her ears. She has never fought anyone looking in

her ears and that experience scared her to death. I was accused of

" flip-flopping " by the appoinment setter and told that I was not

allowed to switch doctors again. I am afraid I am making a reputation

for myself as a trouble-maker. I just want what is best for my

daughter and I want her treated in a humane and respectful manner- do

you think that I am expecting too much from everyone :P?

Kacy- Thanks so much for your ideas. We don't do candy often so it

would be a real treat for her to have a lollipop. I just might try

that one.

Thanks again everyone for listening. I have not connected yet with

any other parents that have a child with hearing loss here in my town.

It is a comforting feeling to know that there are others out there

going through some of this stuff too.

>

> Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was

> first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in

> your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out

> that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her

> right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow

> in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never

> had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your

> stories- it meant a lot to me.

>

> Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for

> her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist

> calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely

> terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the

> sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car,

> Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for

> more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm

> and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming

> from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do

> something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid

> in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any

> ideas you may have for me.

>

> Kriste

> Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing

>

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> See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she

> did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am

> so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our

> ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have

> anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know

> what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am

> just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my

> little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I

> should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry

> in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt.

> Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I

> will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right

things.

>

Hi, I don't have much experience with aids so I can't help you there.

I just wanted to say that in your place I would have done the same

thing. I would have assumed that the aids needed to calibrated while

they were in her ears. They're supposed to be the experts and know

what they're doing. It's hard to find a good audi. I luckily

stumbled upon one when I lived in California. Until I moved to

Connecticut I didn't realize how lucky I was. I'm still looking for

one I like here. Good luck.

Cheryl

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Kriste, it sounds like while this office may have a great audi and doctor,

that somehow they are so rigid in their rules that you won't ever find out. You

may want to try somewhere else, even if it means a bit of travel. I work with

doctors and there usually isn't that kind of policy in force. Really sounds

overly controlling to me. One of the female cardiologists I work with has a

huge female practice and the newer doc in the group is tall dark and handsome.

She gets really ticked when the women patients want to switch to him! But the

patient is allowed to see whichever doctor they want. There is a new young

female (attractive)cardiologist and the male patients love her, though one told

me she made his heart beat too fast! We are in a big town that people come to

for medical care from about a 100 mile radius. We go to an audiologist in a much

smaller town that is 45 minutes from here. We were lucky in that our first

audie is also our favorite, but we have worked with quite a few. We go to a

doctor in one practice and an audiologist in private practice. They were

together and that's how we got with those particular folks. All the audies in

the doctors practice have kids that go to my child's school, one in the same

class and I do feel a little weird NOT using them but we all get a long ok so I

don't let it bother me.

In GA, there is a website for UNHS - universal newborn hearing screening. It is

part of our state dept of public health. They have a list of audiologists who

consider themselves to be pediatric and they also tell you what equipment they

have in their office. Maybe your state has something like that. You may want

to try a children's hospital or a school for the deaf, or an oral school or

Auditory Verbal Center. They usually have audiologists on staff that know how to

do kids.

I'm feeling your pain - scared toddlers aren't quite rational are they! Maybe

try putting it in her ear without turning it on for a while. in GA

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- Thanks for your reply. I agree that this practice is overly

controlling. Actually, I meant to respond to you in my post from a

month ago that I am in Tallahassee. If I remember correctly, you

mentioned that you have family here. Was that right? Anyway, I guess

we could travel to Gainesville or to ville to try out different

doctors. It is just tough to travel like that on a limited income (I

am staying home for the time being).

>

> Kriste, it sounds like while this office may have a great audi and

doctor, that somehow they are so rigid in their rules that you won't

ever find out. You may want to try somewhere else, even if it means

a bit of travel. I work with doctors and there usually isn't that

kind of policy in force. Really sounds overly controlling to me. One

of the female cardiologists I work with has a huge female practice and

the newer doc in the group is tall dark and handsome. She gets really

ticked when the women patients want to switch to him! But the patient

is allowed to see whichever doctor they want. There is a new young

female (attractive)cardiologist and the male patients love her, though

one told me she made his heart beat too fast! We are in a big town

that people come to for medical care from about a 100 mile radius. We

go to an audiologist in a much smaller town that is 45 minutes from

here. We were lucky in that our first audie is also our favorite, but

we have worked with quite a few. We go to a doctor in one practice

and an audiologist in private practice. They were together and that's

how we got with those particular folks. All the audies in the doctors

practice have kids that go to my child's school, one in the same class

and I do feel a little weird NOT using them but we all get a long ok

so I don't let it bother me.

>

> In GA, there is a website for UNHS - universal newborn hearing

screening. It is part of our state dept of public health. They have a

list of audiologists who consider themselves to be pediatric and they

also tell you what equipment they have in their office. Maybe your

state has something like that. You may want to try a children's

hospital or a school for the deaf, or an oral school or Auditory

Verbal Center. They usually have audiologists on staff that know how

to do kids.

>

> I'm feeling your pain - scared toddlers aren't quite rational are

they! Maybe try putting it in her ear without turning it on for a

while. in GA

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Lakeshore makes play hearing aids and glasses to put on one of their lines

of dolls! You might want to get one for her. They're cute.

>

> Amy- Great ideas. I was all set to try the sleeping trick, but she

> woke up before I did this morning. I will try it at naptime today. We

> put her real aid on her babies and dolls yesterday after your

> suggestion and she liked that.

>

> Sharlene-

> " My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the

> audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so

> insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out "

>

> See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she

> did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am

> so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our

> ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have

> anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know

> what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am

> just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my

> little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I

> should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry

> in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt.

> Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I

> will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right things.

>

> Actually, I would really like to switch audiologists. The audiologist

> that we are seeing is the same one we saw when Lily was tiny and she

> did not explain to me then there was something potentially wrong with

> Lily- she just said that the results of Lily's hearing tests were

> " inconclusive " . Now we are kind of stuck with her due to their office

> policy- they like to keep patients with the same doctor/audiologist

> for all appointments. I understand in their opinion that this is

> important for continutity of care and for establishing a relationship

> with the care provider. I already made a big stink there by switching

> from one ENT to another b/c the first ENT we saw had a nurse hold Lily

> down just to check her ears. She has never fought anyone looking in

> her ears and that experience scared her to death. I was accused of

> " flip-flopping " by the appoinment setter and told that I was not

> allowed to switch doctors again. I am afraid I am making a reputation

> for myself as a trouble-maker. I just want what is best for my

> daughter and I want her treated in a humane and respectful manner- do

> you think that I am expecting too much from everyone :P?

>

> Kacy- Thanks so much for your ideas. We don't do candy often so it

> would be a real treat for her to have a lollipop. I just might try

> that one.

>

> Thanks again everyone for listening. I have not connected yet with

> any other parents that have a child with hearing loss here in my town.

> It is a comforting feeling to know that there are others out there

> going through some of this stuff too.

>

>

> >

> > Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was

> > first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in

> > your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out

> > that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her

> > right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow

> > in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never

> > had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your

> > stories- it meant a lot to me.

> >

> > Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for

> > her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist

> > calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely

> > terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the

> > sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car,

> > Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for

> > more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm

> > and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming

> > from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do

> > something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid

> > in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any

> > ideas you may have for me.

> >

> > Kriste

> > Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing

> >

>

>

>

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Sharlene- No, you didn't make me feel guilty (I already do that enough

on my own :P). You just confirmed what I suspected, that the whole

thing was just unnecessary. Thanks for sharing your experiences with

doctors too.

Cheryl- Thanks for the reassurance that you would have done the same

as I did. I need to find this authority voice within myself to speak

up and ask questions when I am unsure of what is happening to my daughter.

Robin- I am going to check out those dolls. That sounds like something

Lily would like.

Lakeshore makes play hearing aids and glasses to put on one of their

lines of dolls! You might want to get one for her. They're cute.

> Hi, I don't have much experience with aids so I can't help you

there.I just wanted to say that in your place I would have done the

same thing. I would have assumed that the aids needed to calibrated

while they were in her ears. They're supposed to be the experts and

know what they're doing. It's hard to find a good audi. I luckily

stumbled upon one when I lived in California. Until I moved to

Connecticut I didn't realize how lucky I was. I'm still looking for

one I like here. Good luck.

Cheryl

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Hi Kriste, my neice is moving there next month and I have a dear friend who is

a teacher who lives there. I know there is a e School in ville,

they may know of a good audiologist in Jax or Gainesville or maybe even in

Tallahassee. Or maybe if there is a CI program in Gainesville they may have

someone they work with on the hearing aid side that knows kids. I'll look and

see if there is anyone in ville or Valdosta - there is an SLP program in

Valdosta. I took an 8 year maternity leave so I know about the single income

thing! We are in the process of buying new aids, my daughter is 14. They do

set the aids while she has them in her ears though they usually do some setting

before putting them in her ears. And they warn here when the loud sounds are

coming. I don't recall them doing this when she first got her aids. And she was

saying that one of the aids she tried made a tune rather than just beeps.

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Kriste, here is the only audiology practice listed in S. GA. The name is

" North Florida " so maybe they have a closer office. Audiology Association of

North Florida Contact: Thornton, M.Ed. 305 West

Hansell Street ville, GA 31792

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Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote:

My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist

calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows

what frightening sounds came out.

Hi,

I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was

almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried

to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball)

under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her

ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no

success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that

sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her

ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing

to do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening.

When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7

months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others.

Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to

appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the

feeling of them going in.

The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may

want to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs

with finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do

very quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I

liked the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one

and while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by

colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her

a treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her

language.

I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post,

it sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you

can get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour

to get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in

the same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are

now on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works

for, but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing

any of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be

comfortable with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the

country you are in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much

I learn from parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always

something that I couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me

with.

Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience.

You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen

again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always

" trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of

something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't

think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a

lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is

the " Lily expert " .

Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote:

My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist

calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows

what frightening sounds came out.

Hi,

I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was

almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried

to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball)

under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her

ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no

success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that

sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her

ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing

to do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening.

When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7

months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others.

Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to

appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the

feeling of them going in.

The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may

want to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs

with finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do

very quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I

liked the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one

and while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by

colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her

a treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her

language.

I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post,

it sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you

can get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour

to get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in

the same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are

now on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works

for, but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing

any of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be

comfortable with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the

country you are in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much

I learn from parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always

something that I couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me

with.

Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience.

You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen

again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always

" trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of

something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't

think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a

lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is

the " Lily expert " .

Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Hi Kriste,

I understand that's it's tough to travel too far when the budget is already

streched. Around here gas is now at $3.25 a gallon so I cringe when I have to

make doctor appointments.

I was doing a little searching and thought you may be able to contact

someone here that may be able to help you locate a different ENT and Audi

http://www.cms-kids.com/InfantHearing.htm

Hope that helps,

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They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was actually sounding

when it entered her ear. An excellent way to calibrate when a child is not as

capable of providing feedback. The audie can then base their calibration on the

sound amplification required for each frequency as a starting point prior to

fine tuning for a child's preferences

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Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote:

My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist

calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows

what frightening sounds came out.

Hi,

I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was

almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried

to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball)

under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her

ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no

success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that

sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her

ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing to

do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening.

When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7

months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others.

Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to

appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the

feeling of them going in.

The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may want

to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs with

finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do very

quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I liked

the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one and

while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by

colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her a

treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her

language.

I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post, it

sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you can

get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour to

get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in the

same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are now

on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works for,

but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing any

of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be comfortable

with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the country you are

in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much I learn from

parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always something that I

couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me with.

Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience.

You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen

again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always

" trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of

something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't

think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a

lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is

the " Lily expert " .

Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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I can appreciate this bit of information and have a better

understanding of why it may have needed to be done. At the same time,

I think the audiologist could have explained to me what she was about

to do and why and that it might be scary to my child. We are STILL

struggling a week later with trying to her to wear her aid when she

happily wore it for short periods of time before this event. Surely

you can see why this could be upsetting to a parent. No one wants to

hold a child down during a frightening procedure and " excellent " or

not, my child's feelings are the most important thing to be

considered. I guess it will be my job to see if there is another way

to get this done when she gets her real aid next week.

>

> They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was

actually sounding when it entered her ear. An excellent way to

calibrate when a child is not as capable of providing feedback. The

audie can then base their calibration on the sound amplification

required for each frequency as a starting point prior to fine tuning

for a child's preferences

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Debbie- Thanks for the link- that was kind of you :). We are actually

very much involved at this point with the organization you linked

there and they have been wonderful so far. Gas is really crazy and it

is a factor in dealing with all the financial issues related to

hearing loss with all of the driving around to appointments. I had no

idea what parents of children with special needs went through before.

No clue how expensive it could be. I thought that I had my eyes wide

open before. They are open even wider now...

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> Hi Kriste,

>

> I understand that's it's tough to travel too far when the budget

is already streched. Around here gas is now at $3.25 a gallon so I

cringe when I have to make doctor appointments.

>

> I was doing a little searching and thought you may be able to

contact someone here that may be able to help you locate a different

ENT and Audi http://www.cms-kids.com/InfantHearing.htm

>

> Hope that helps,

> Debbie

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, with digital aids they can set them up while in the child's ears. They

do this with Maggie but she was 9 years old the first time they did it. But it

could have been real ear which is needed especially on a small child. They did

real ear on Maggie but it was always using a tiny wire probe plus the hearing

aid. It took quite a bit of manipulation to get the real ear set up. If the

hearing aids had a cord going from them to the computer, it was probably just

setting up the digital aids. Kriste, do you recall how they had it set up??

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Debbie and Kriste, this experience with the little tube is what wrote

about, " real ear " - they like to do it on kids especially because the size and

shape of their ear canal can have a big effect on how much sound is directed at

their eardrum.

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Kriste, you are absolutely right. A person can do the " right " thing but to

scare a child shows a lack of understanding of how to work with children. Or a

lack of patience and the ability to work with children. You need to find the

person who knows what they are doing technically, as well as who knows how to

handle small children. It's not something everyone can do, is trained to do, or

even wants to do.

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> I can appreciate this bit of information and have a better

> understanding of why it may have needed to be done. At the same time,

> I think the audiologist could have explained to me what she was about

> to do and why and that it might be scary to my child. We are STILL

> struggling a week later with trying to her to wear her aid when she

> happily wore it for short periods of time before this event. Surely

> you can see why this could be upsetting to a parent. No one wants to

> hold a child down during a frightening procedure and " excellent " or

> not, my child's feelings are the most important thing to be

> considered. I guess it will be my job to see if there is another way

> to get this done when she gets her real aid next week.

>

>

> >

> > They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was

> actually sounding when it entered her ear. An excellent way to

> calibrate when a child is not as capable of providing feedback. The

> audie can then base their calibration on the sound amplification

> required for each frequency as a starting point prior to fine tuning

> for a child's preferences

> >

>

>

>

>

>

My daughter just had the real ear measurements taken at 19 months old.

The audiologist did not try the test until recently (and she has been

aided for a year and a half.) The first time she tried, my daughter

would not sit still, so she immediately stopped. She said it was much

worse to ruin the relationship with my daughter than to get the

information that day. We successfully did the test the last time we

went. The audiologist had a dvd playing for her to watch and toys to

play with as well as having her on my lap for comfort.

Of course, I love my audiologist. She skipped even looking in my

daughter's ears for several appointments after my daughter had a bad

experience getting ear wax removed at the pediatrician. The audiologist

knew that getting my daughter to like being at a doctor's office again

was much more important in the long run.

in Manassas, VA

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>My daughter just had the real ear measurements taken at 19 months old.

The audiologist did not try the test until recently (and she has been

aided for a year and a half.) The first time she tried, my daughter

would not sit still, so she immediately stopped. She said it was much

worse to ruin the relationship with my daughter than to get the

information that day. We successfully did the test the last time we

went. The audiologist had a dvd playing for her to watch and toys to

play with as well as having her on my lap for comfort.

in Manassas, VA

>

Thank you for your response, . I will insist that some form of

distraction be used next time this happens. I guess that will be soon

since her real hearing aid will arrive sometime this next week.

>It took quite a bit of manipulation to get the real ear set up. If the

hearing aids had a cord going from them to the computer, it was probably

just

setting up the digital aids. Kriste, do you recall how they had it set

up??

>

That sounds about right. There was a cord from the computer to her aid.

Oh, and I meant to thank you for your research about other audiologists

in our area. That person you listed is actually our audiologist and we

were at that very office in ville when Lily had her scary

appointment. Pretty funny, huh? She really is a very nice person and I

am sure never meant to scare my daughter. I am just not sure she is the

right one for us though. What I need to do now is just go ahead and

accept that I am not going to be liked by everyone at our ENT/audiology

clinic and put my daughter's needs ahead of everything. I know that I

will be given a hard time about switching to a different audiologist

and I also don't want to hurt our current audiologist's feelings.

-Kriste

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