Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your stories- it meant a lot to me. Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car, Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any ideas you may have for me. Kriste Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Kriste- Try using something that she really likes, that she only has while she uses the HA **for a few minutes** to start. A friend used a lollipop, which her kids could have only while sitting at the table (they were really young). After a few sucks, away went the lollipop and off when the HA. You can imagine how the kid really was willing to have the HA again in order to have that treat! It took a very short time for the kid to realize that the HAs were going to be a lot of fun! Since your daughter had such a nasty start, she will need some guidance to see that the HAs aren't always going to sound so nasty, and very short tries are going to be easier for her to deal with. Is there a timer that she is used to, or something else that she knows will take a specific and short amount of time? Cookies in the oven, slowly pouring water out of a gallon container into the sink, a favorite dance, etc. will let her see that there is a specific start and stop to the event, and it is something that you can easily model for her -- put the aid onto your ear, pour out the water (make sure you use happy/excited expressions!!), then when the event stops, take off the aid. That way she can see the start and stop, and will likely be more willing to try it out herself. Then, once she has done that, she will see that the aids aren't going to be like when they were callibrated at the audi's office. And the next time you go in, tell them that you want it done another way! = ) Kacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Amy- Great ideas. I was all set to try the sleeping trick, but she woke up before I did this morning. I will try it at naptime today. We put her real aid on her babies and dolls yesterday after your suggestion and she liked that. Sharlene- " My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out " See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt. Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right things. Actually, I would really like to switch audiologists. The audiologist that we are seeing is the same one we saw when Lily was tiny and she did not explain to me then there was something potentially wrong with Lily- she just said that the results of Lily's hearing tests were " inconclusive " . Now we are kind of stuck with her due to their office policy- they like to keep patients with the same doctor/audiologist for all appointments. I understand in their opinion that this is important for continutity of care and for establishing a relationship with the care provider. I already made a big stink there by switching from one ENT to another b/c the first ENT we saw had a nurse hold Lily down just to check her ears. She has never fought anyone looking in her ears and that experience scared her to death. I was accused of " flip-flopping " by the appoinment setter and told that I was not allowed to switch doctors again. I am afraid I am making a reputation for myself as a trouble-maker. I just want what is best for my daughter and I want her treated in a humane and respectful manner- do you think that I am expecting too much from everyone ? Kacy- Thanks so much for your ideas. We don't do candy often so it would be a real treat for her to have a lollipop. I just might try that one. Thanks again everyone for listening. I have not connected yet with any other parents that have a child with hearing loss here in my town. It is a comforting feeling to know that there are others out there going through some of this stuff too. > > Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was > first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in > your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out > that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her > right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow > in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never > had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your > stories- it meant a lot to me. > > Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for > her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist > calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely > terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the > sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car, > Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for > more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm > and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming > from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do > something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid > in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any > ideas you may have for me. > > Kriste > Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 > > See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she > did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am > so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our > ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have > anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know > what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am > just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my > little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I > should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry > in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt. > Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I > will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right things. > Hi, I don't have much experience with aids so I can't help you there. I just wanted to say that in your place I would have done the same thing. I would have assumed that the aids needed to calibrated while they were in her ears. They're supposed to be the experts and know what they're doing. It's hard to find a good audi. I luckily stumbled upon one when I lived in California. Until I moved to Connecticut I didn't realize how lucky I was. I'm still looking for one I like here. Good luck. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Kriste, it sounds like while this office may have a great audi and doctor, that somehow they are so rigid in their rules that you won't ever find out. You may want to try somewhere else, even if it means a bit of travel. I work with doctors and there usually isn't that kind of policy in force. Really sounds overly controlling to me. One of the female cardiologists I work with has a huge female practice and the newer doc in the group is tall dark and handsome. She gets really ticked when the women patients want to switch to him! But the patient is allowed to see whichever doctor they want. There is a new young female (attractive)cardiologist and the male patients love her, though one told me she made his heart beat too fast! We are in a big town that people come to for medical care from about a 100 mile radius. We go to an audiologist in a much smaller town that is 45 minutes from here. We were lucky in that our first audie is also our favorite, but we have worked with quite a few. We go to a doctor in one practice and an audiologist in private practice. They were together and that's how we got with those particular folks. All the audies in the doctors practice have kids that go to my child's school, one in the same class and I do feel a little weird NOT using them but we all get a long ok so I don't let it bother me. In GA, there is a website for UNHS - universal newborn hearing screening. It is part of our state dept of public health. They have a list of audiologists who consider themselves to be pediatric and they also tell you what equipment they have in their office. Maybe your state has something like that. You may want to try a children's hospital or a school for the deaf, or an oral school or Auditory Verbal Center. They usually have audiologists on staff that know how to do kids. I'm feeling your pain - scared toddlers aren't quite rational are they! Maybe try putting it in her ear without turning it on for a while. in GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 - Thanks for your reply. I agree that this practice is overly controlling. Actually, I meant to respond to you in my post from a month ago that I am in Tallahassee. If I remember correctly, you mentioned that you have family here. Was that right? Anyway, I guess we could travel to Gainesville or to ville to try out different doctors. It is just tough to travel like that on a limited income (I am staying home for the time being). > > Kriste, it sounds like while this office may have a great audi and doctor, that somehow they are so rigid in their rules that you won't ever find out. You may want to try somewhere else, even if it means a bit of travel. I work with doctors and there usually isn't that kind of policy in force. Really sounds overly controlling to me. One of the female cardiologists I work with has a huge female practice and the newer doc in the group is tall dark and handsome. She gets really ticked when the women patients want to switch to him! But the patient is allowed to see whichever doctor they want. There is a new young female (attractive)cardiologist and the male patients love her, though one told me she made his heart beat too fast! We are in a big town that people come to for medical care from about a 100 mile radius. We go to an audiologist in a much smaller town that is 45 minutes from here. We were lucky in that our first audie is also our favorite, but we have worked with quite a few. We go to a doctor in one practice and an audiologist in private practice. They were together and that's how we got with those particular folks. All the audies in the doctors practice have kids that go to my child's school, one in the same class and I do feel a little weird NOT using them but we all get a long ok so I don't let it bother me. > > In GA, there is a website for UNHS - universal newborn hearing screening. It is part of our state dept of public health. They have a list of audiologists who consider themselves to be pediatric and they also tell you what equipment they have in their office. Maybe your state has something like that. You may want to try a children's hospital or a school for the deaf, or an oral school or Auditory Verbal Center. They usually have audiologists on staff that know how to do kids. > > I'm feeling your pain - scared toddlers aren't quite rational are they! Maybe try putting it in her ear without turning it on for a while. in GA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Lakeshore makes play hearing aids and glasses to put on one of their lines of dolls! You might want to get one for her. They're cute. > > Amy- Great ideas. I was all set to try the sleeping trick, but she > woke up before I did this morning. I will try it at naptime today. We > put her real aid on her babies and dolls yesterday after your > suggestion and she liked that. > > Sharlene- > " My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the > audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so > insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out " > > See, I thought that it was wrong when it was happening to her but she > did not warn us nor did I know this was not standard procedure! I am > so frustrated with the care we have received in general from our > ENT/Audiologist practice (it is an all-in-one place and I don't have > anywhere else to choose from here in my town). And now that I know > what happened to Lily need not have happened in the first place, I am > just angry. Angry at the audiologist for being so insenstive to my > little girl and at myself for not listening to my instinct that said I > should stop what was scaring Lily. Instead, I let her scream and cry > in my arms and forced her to sit there and take it. Talk about guilt. > Geez, this whole experience has been so hard so far. I wonder if I > will ever be in a place where I feel like I am doing all the right things. > > Actually, I would really like to switch audiologists. The audiologist > that we are seeing is the same one we saw when Lily was tiny and she > did not explain to me then there was something potentially wrong with > Lily- she just said that the results of Lily's hearing tests were > " inconclusive " . Now we are kind of stuck with her due to their office > policy- they like to keep patients with the same doctor/audiologist > for all appointments. I understand in their opinion that this is > important for continutity of care and for establishing a relationship > with the care provider. I already made a big stink there by switching > from one ENT to another b/c the first ENT we saw had a nurse hold Lily > down just to check her ears. She has never fought anyone looking in > her ears and that experience scared her to death. I was accused of > " flip-flopping " by the appoinment setter and told that I was not > allowed to switch doctors again. I am afraid I am making a reputation > for myself as a trouble-maker. I just want what is best for my > daughter and I want her treated in a humane and respectful manner- do > you think that I am expecting too much from everyone ? > > Kacy- Thanks so much for your ideas. We don't do candy often so it > would be a real treat for her to have a lollipop. I just might try > that one. > > Thanks again everyone for listening. I have not connected yet with > any other parents that have a child with hearing loss here in my town. > It is a comforting feeling to know that there are others out there > going through some of this stuff too. > > > > > > Hello again! I posted here about a month ago when my daughter was > > first diagnosed with hearing loss and many of you were so wonderful in > > your responses to me as I dealt with the initial shock of finding out > > that Lily has a mod/severe loss in her left ear and a profound in her > > right. I wanted to write individual responses to everyone and somehow > > in the flurry of appointments and the general chaos of life, I never > > had a chance to do that. Thanks again to everyone for sharing your > > stories- it meant a lot to me. > > > > Just this past Monday, Lily received her earmold and a loaner aid for > > her to use until her own hearing aid arrives. The audiologist > > calibrated the loaner aid while it was in her ear and it absolutely > > terrified her. She was so afraid and was just inconsolable due to the > > sounds she was hearing in her ear. As soon as we got out to the car, > > Lily yanked the aid out of her ear and has not had it in her ear for > > more than a few seconds since Monday. I am trying to be really calm > > and soothing when I approach her with the aid, but she runs screaming > > from me each time. It just feels so wrong to me to make her do > > something she feels so strongly against yet I know she needs the aid > > in order to hear. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks for any > > ideas you may have for me. > > > > Kriste > > Mother to Lily(2) and Charlotte (4)-hearing > > > > > -- Robin Tomlinson thetomlinsons@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sharlene- No, you didn't make me feel guilty (I already do that enough on my own ). You just confirmed what I suspected, that the whole thing was just unnecessary. Thanks for sharing your experiences with doctors too. Cheryl- Thanks for the reassurance that you would have done the same as I did. I need to find this authority voice within myself to speak up and ask questions when I am unsure of what is happening to my daughter. Robin- I am going to check out those dolls. That sounds like something Lily would like. Lakeshore makes play hearing aids and glasses to put on one of their lines of dolls! You might want to get one for her. They're cute. > Hi, I don't have much experience with aids so I can't help you there.I just wanted to say that in your place I would have done the same thing. I would have assumed that the aids needed to calibrated while they were in her ears. They're supposed to be the experts and know what they're doing. It's hard to find a good audi. I luckily stumbled upon one when I lived in California. Until I moved to Connecticut I didn't realize how lucky I was. I'm still looking for one I like here. Good luck. Cheryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi Kriste, my neice is moving there next month and I have a dear friend who is a teacher who lives there. I know there is a e School in ville, they may know of a good audiologist in Jax or Gainesville or maybe even in Tallahassee. Or maybe if there is a CI program in Gainesville they may have someone they work with on the hearing aid side that knows kids. I'll look and see if there is anyone in ville or Valdosta - there is an SLP program in Valdosta. I took an 8 year maternity leave so I know about the single income thing! We are in the process of buying new aids, my daughter is 14. They do set the aids while she has them in her ears though they usually do some setting before putting them in her ears. And they warn here when the loud sounds are coming. I don't recall them doing this when she first got her aids. And she was saying that one of the aids she tried made a tune rather than just beeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Kriste, here is the only audiology practice listed in S. GA. The name is " North Florida " so maybe they have a closer office. Audiology Association of North Florida Contact: Thornton, M.Ed. 305 West Hansell Street ville, GA 31792 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote: My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out. Hi, I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball) under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing to do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening. When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7 months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others. Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the feeling of them going in. The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may want to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs with finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do very quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I liked the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one and while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her a treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her language. I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post, it sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you can get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour to get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in the same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are now on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works for, but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing any of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be comfortable with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the country you are in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much I learn from parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always something that I couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me with. Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience. You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always " trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is the " Lily expert " . Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote: My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out. Hi, I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball) under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing to do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening. When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7 months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others. Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the feeling of them going in. The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may want to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs with finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do very quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I liked the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one and while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her a treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her language. I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post, it sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you can get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour to get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in the same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are now on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works for, but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing any of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be comfortable with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the country you are in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much I learn from parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always something that I couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me with. Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience. You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always " trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is the " Lily expert " . Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi Kriste, I understand that's it's tough to travel too far when the budget is already streched. Around here gas is now at $3.25 a gallon so I cringe when I have to make doctor appointments. I was doing a little searching and thought you may be able to contact someone here that may be able to help you locate a different ENT and Audi http://www.cms-kids.com/InfantHearing.htm Hope that helps, Debbie Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was actually sounding when it entered her ear. An excellent way to calibrate when a child is not as capable of providing feedback. The audie can then base their calibration on the sound amplification required for each frequency as a starting point prior to fine tuning for a child's preferences -------------- Original message -------------- Sharlene srwevans@...> wrote: My first reaction to your email - is why in the world would the audiologist calibrate it while in her ear???? That seems so insensitive to me - who knows what frightening sounds came out. Hi, I too wondered a similar thing. I remember after got her aids (she was almost 3) we went for a follow-up appointment maybe one month later. They tried to insert a tiny tube like thing (it looked like a string from a Koosh ball) under the ear mold and then would try to place the mold and tiny tube into her ear. She would have nothing to do with it. They tried several times with no success. She is VERY sensitive about items in her ears. I believe that sensitivity started from a bad experience with our first ENT. He saw wax in her ear and wanted to clean it out, so he tried to flush it out. Not a good thing to do with a child who doesn't have a enough language to know what is happening. When first got her aids, I had to fight her to get them in. I was 7 months pregnant at the time, so I'm sure it was somewhat humorous to others. Once I was able to get them in, she never took them out. She seemed to appreciate the sound that she was hearing, but I don't think she liked the feeling of them going in. The suggestions that other gave you are great ones. One other thing you may want to try is to put the aids in an play music and dance with her or sing songs with finger plays (Itsy Bitsy Spider for example). Then remove the aids and do very quiet things like cuddle or just let her play with crayons and paper. I liked the lollipop idea. You may also want to try M &M's. You can give her one and while she eats it and leaves in the aids you can count them or sort them by colors talking the entire time you do it. That way you not only are giving her a treat for leaving the aids in, you are also using the time for giving her language. I just read your post about the ENT/audi clinic that you use. From your post, it sounds like you might live someplace rural. Is there any major city that you can get to? We are about 40 miles outside of Chicago, and travel almost an hour to get to our audi and to our ENT. They are in different clinics, but work in the same system. This was the fourth ENT we saw and we really like her. We are now on audi number seven. Numbers 5 and 6 work for the same clinic that 7 works for, but we like 7 so much more. I have never been given any slack for changing any of the medical personnel that work with my daughter. She needs to be comfortable with them, and so do I. If you want to share what part of the country you are in, someone here may be able to help you. I'm amazed how much I learn from parents and deaf/hoh people that I've met. And it's always something that I couldn't find on my own or the professionals couldn't help me with. Don't feel guilty or bad for making your daughter go through that experience. You really didn't know any better, but now you do and you won't let that happen again. You will probably learn, like many of us here, that you can't always " trust " the professionals. If something doesn't seem right or you are leery of something ask questions until you get an answer that YOU are happy with. Don't think less of yourself because your " just mom " . Being a mom means a heck of a lot. You are the one that knows your child the best and you are the one that is the " Lily expert " . Debbie, mom to , 7, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I can appreciate this bit of information and have a better understanding of why it may have needed to be done. At the same time, I think the audiologist could have explained to me what she was about to do and why and that it might be scary to my child. We are STILL struggling a week later with trying to her to wear her aid when she happily wore it for short periods of time before this event. Surely you can see why this could be upsetting to a parent. No one wants to hold a child down during a frightening procedure and " excellent " or not, my child's feelings are the most important thing to be considered. I guess it will be my job to see if there is another way to get this done when she gets her real aid next week. > > They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was actually sounding when it entered her ear. An excellent way to calibrate when a child is not as capable of providing feedback. The audie can then base their calibration on the sound amplification required for each frequency as a starting point prior to fine tuning for a child's preferences > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Debbie- Thanks for the link- that was kind of you . We are actually very much involved at this point with the organization you linked there and they have been wonderful so far. Gas is really crazy and it is a factor in dealing with all the financial issues related to hearing loss with all of the driving around to appointments. I had no idea what parents of children with special needs went through before. No clue how expensive it could be. I thought that I had my eyes wide open before. They are open even wider now... > > Hi Kriste, > > I understand that's it's tough to travel too far when the budget is already streched. Around here gas is now at $3.25 a gallon so I cringe when I have to make doctor appointments. > > I was doing a little searching and thought you may be able to contact someone here that may be able to help you locate a different ENT and Audi http://www.cms-kids.com/InfantHearing.htm > > Hope that helps, > Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 , with digital aids they can set them up while in the child's ears. They do this with Maggie but she was 9 years old the first time they did it. But it could have been real ear which is needed especially on a small child. They did real ear on Maggie but it was always using a tiny wire probe plus the hearing aid. It took quite a bit of manipulation to get the real ear set up. If the hearing aids had a cord going from them to the computer, it was probably just setting up the digital aids. Kriste, do you recall how they had it set up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Debbie and Kriste, this experience with the little tube is what wrote about, " real ear " - they like to do it on kids especially because the size and shape of their ear canal can have a big effect on how much sound is directed at their eardrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Kriste, you are absolutely right. A person can do the " right " thing but to scare a child shows a lack of understanding of how to work with children. Or a lack of patience and the ability to work with children. You need to find the person who knows what they are doing technically, as well as who knows how to handle small children. It's not something everyone can do, is trained to do, or even wants to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 > I can appreciate this bit of information and have a better > understanding of why it may have needed to be done. At the same time, > I think the audiologist could have explained to me what she was about > to do and why and that it might be scary to my child. We are STILL > struggling a week later with trying to her to wear her aid when she > happily wore it for short periods of time before this event. Surely > you can see why this could be upsetting to a parent. No one wants to > hold a child down during a frightening procedure and " excellent " or > not, my child's feelings are the most important thing to be > considered. I guess it will be my job to see if there is another way > to get this done when she gets her real aid next week. > > > > > > They were taking real ear measurements of the noise as it was > actually sounding when it entered her ear. An excellent way to > calibrate when a child is not as capable of providing feedback. The > audie can then base their calibration on the sound amplification > required for each frequency as a starting point prior to fine tuning > for a child's preferences > > > > > > > My daughter just had the real ear measurements taken at 19 months old. The audiologist did not try the test until recently (and she has been aided for a year and a half.) The first time she tried, my daughter would not sit still, so she immediately stopped. She said it was much worse to ruin the relationship with my daughter than to get the information that day. We successfully did the test the last time we went. The audiologist had a dvd playing for her to watch and toys to play with as well as having her on my lap for comfort. Of course, I love my audiologist. She skipped even looking in my daughter's ears for several appointments after my daughter had a bad experience getting ear wax removed at the pediatrician. The audiologist knew that getting my daughter to like being at a doctor's office again was much more important in the long run. in Manassas, VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 >My daughter just had the real ear measurements taken at 19 months old. The audiologist did not try the test until recently (and she has been aided for a year and a half.) The first time she tried, my daughter would not sit still, so she immediately stopped. She said it was much worse to ruin the relationship with my daughter than to get the information that day. We successfully did the test the last time we went. The audiologist had a dvd playing for her to watch and toys to play with as well as having her on my lap for comfort. in Manassas, VA > Thank you for your response, . I will insist that some form of distraction be used next time this happens. I guess that will be soon since her real hearing aid will arrive sometime this next week. >It took quite a bit of manipulation to get the real ear set up. If the hearing aids had a cord going from them to the computer, it was probably just setting up the digital aids. Kriste, do you recall how they had it set up?? > That sounds about right. There was a cord from the computer to her aid. Oh, and I meant to thank you for your research about other audiologists in our area. That person you listed is actually our audiologist and we were at that very office in ville when Lily had her scary appointment. Pretty funny, huh? She really is a very nice person and I am sure never meant to scare my daughter. I am just not sure she is the right one for us though. What I need to do now is just go ahead and accept that I am not going to be liked by everyone at our ENT/audiology clinic and put my daughter's needs ahead of everything. I know that I will be given a hard time about switching to a different audiologist and I also don't want to hurt our current audiologist's feelings. -Kriste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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