Re: Walmart's Spring Valley brand of fish oils??

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> has anyone ever tried giving their children, or taking themselves, the

> Walmart brand fish oils which is Spring Valley? i saw it today and

> thought about buying it, but wasn't sure i could trust it. i did read

> on the bottle that they have been purified of any PCB's and other

> heavy metals, just like it claims on the Nordic Naturals which is what

> i buy now. but the Walmart brand was obviously A LOT cheaper.

>

I don't know what the ratios of EFAs/EPA is in the Walmart brand, but

according to this site at least, they should certainly be safe:

http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=fishoil & sort=Company

Fom another site, it appears to be made for them by Nature's Bounty.

Sue

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In addition to everything else -the most important thing to check

out is the peroxide level of the fish oil which will show the

rancidity/amount of oxygen the fish oil was exposed to. Fish oil

(as we all know) is very unstable in oxygen -it stinks pretty

quick. It's clear that mercury is not a problem in any fish oils

since the mercury binds to the protein (or muscle) of the fish, not

that 3rd person testing is a bad idea for that anyway -but oxygen is

the number one fish oil problem since from what I've been told most

OTC fish oils are rancid to some degree out there. Not all are

tested for peroxide levels -but you want one that does test for it

and has low levels of it.

Nordic Naturals does have very low peroxide levels and you

can also tell because their fish oils don't smell like rancid fish

(nor taste like that) and best for those adults that take them

too...they don't make you burp like the rancid ones do (yuck!) So

far for me the NN ones are the only ones I found to not have that

effect. If someone wants to try out the Wal-Mart one on their

family let us know!

Anyway -one other thing to check for! (stinkiness)

" Fish oil quality standards do not exist in the United States. To ensure on

going quality, Nordic Naturals adheres to and exceeds the stringent Norwegian

Medicinal Standard (NMS) and the European Pharmacopoeia Standard (EPS) for all

products. These standards guarantee quality products by setting maximum

allowances on peroxides, heavy metals, dioxins, furans, and PCBs.:

http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templates/newsATemp.aspx?articleid=14526 & zoneid=22

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A further comment for folks looking to save money - the general fish

oil supplements at places like Walmart don't have the Omega 6 that

seems to matter to our kids, so this is not a substitute for ProEFA.

But if you are not using ProEFA currently, or are supplementing with

borage oil seperately, the cheapest place to get fish oil pills is

supposed to be Costco and Sams Club. When Consumer Reports tested a

few years ago, the wholesale club products were substantially cheaper

than elsewhere, including Walmart. And to the original poster, CR

tested the Spring Valley supplements as well, and they were fine.

> >

> > has anyone ever tried giving their children, or taking

themselves, the

> > Walmart brand fish oils which is Spring Valley? i saw it today and

> > thought about buying it, but wasn't sure i could trust it. i did

read

> > on the bottle that they have been purified of any PCB's and other

> > heavy metals, just like it claims on the Nordic Naturals which is

what

> > i buy now. but the Walmart brand was obviously A LOT cheaper.

> >

>

> I don't know what the ratios of EFAs/EPA is in the Walmart brand,

but

> according to this site at least, they should certainly be safe:

>

> http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=fishoil & sort=Company

>

> Fom another site, it appears to be made for them by Nature's Bounty.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, just to add my 2 cents. I give my son 6 ProEFAs a day - 3 in a.m. and 3

in p.m. and I quit for about two weeks for some reason - can't remember why

- and he actually regressed in speech. But before this regression, I had

started substituting one capsule with another brand both in the a.m. and p.m. I

could not tell that this made a difference in his speech, but what I did

notice was the smell. His head was very fishy smelling, so I stopped giving him

the Nature Made brand - I think it was and started back giving him only ProEFA

and the smell has left. So I think I'll stay with the ProEFAs Nordic

Natural brand. It has really helped my son. Hope this helps. Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh, you just jogged my memory! I wanted to post about this

but forgot all about it. My younger daughter (24 months, NT) has

been on one Omega 3-6-9 for over 6 months now. On Friday I upped

her dose from 1 capsule to 3. A few hours later, she smelled

HORRIBLY of fish. My SIL's wedding rehearsal dinner was that night

and it was seriously really embarrassing how bad she smelled. It

actually made me gag a little! Confirmed by 3 or 4 people who

didn't even know I gave the girls fish oils. I know that people

have posted about this before, but honestly I can't remember what

the final verdict was, and I can't figure out the archive search.

The oils shouldn't have been rancid or anything - everything was

same as usual except the dose. My other daughter took 6 on the same

day and had no smelly problems. Any ideas?

Kerri

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> Hi, just to add my 2 cents. I give my son 6 ProEFAs a day - 3 in

a.m. and 3

> in p.m. and I quit for about two weeks for some reason - can't

remember why

> - and he actually regressed in speech. But before this

regression, I had

> started substituting one capsule with another brand both in the

a.m. and p.m. I

> could not tell that this made a difference in his speech, but

what I did

> notice was the smell. His head was very fishy smelling, so I

stopped giving him

> the Nature Made brand - I think it was and started back giving

him only ProEFA

> and the smell has left. So I think I'll stay with the ProEFAs

Nordic

> Natural brand. It has really helped my son. Hope this helps.

Phyllis

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just curious, why haven't you tried adding EPA?

Did you see any side effects to the EPA?

Ratliffp@... wrote: Hi, just to

add my 2 cents. I give my son 6 ProEFAs a day - 3 in a.m. and 3

in p.m. and I quit for about two weeks for some reason - can't remember why

- and he actually regressed in speech. But before this regression, I had

started substituting one capsule with another brand both in the a.m. and p.m.

I

could not tell that this made a difference in his speech, but what I did

notice was the smell. His head was very fishy smelling, so I stopped giving

him

the Nature Made brand - I think it was and started back giving him only

ProEFA

and the smell has left. So I think I'll stay with the ProEFAs Nordic

Natural brand. It has really helped my son. Hope this helps. Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Kerri this has come up about four or five times now since this group

has started, but to date nobody has confirmed the trimethylaminuria

diagnosis. (probably it's all just messy kids!)

This was the most recent from from 2004 - can you update

us?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~start of archive

Re: a fishy smell...to

Hi ,

Yes, if I was positive it wasn't just that my son smelled fishy due

to him wiping his mouth with his hand after being given fish oil -

which is oily of course -and then wiping his hand on his body,

clothes and through his hair, which would then all stink and in the

case of clothes would not come out that easy -I would stop the oils

right away until I had the test for TRIMETHYLAMINURIA done by my

son's pediatrician. TRIMETHYLAMINURIA is an extremely rare

diagnosis -and in the few times this subject came up here thus far

the parents found the fishy smell was due to the oils getting on the

child from an outside source -not an inside one.

In the meantime you could try flax seed oil, until you find out

more. In addition to fish oil however -you are supposed to avoid

all the foods that would create the smell as it reads here:

" Cheer up, Hal--I am almost certain the problem is something you eat.

If that's right, the smell will go away as soon as you stop eating

those foods.

To find out, your doctor should test you for trimethylaminuria,

which is a long way to say that when you eat fish, eggs, liver,

kidney, or soybeans, your body does not digest these things quite

the way other bodies do. These foods have a chemical called choline

(say it like KO-leen), which germs in the gut digest into trimeth-

ylamines (just call them TMA). TMA smells fishy--very fishy, in

fact.

For most people that fishy smell doesn't matter because their body

turns TMA into something else, TMA oxide, which does not smell at

all. But in people with trimethylaminuria, their bodies cannot

change the TMA. So the TMA comes out in their sweat, urine, and

breath, and no matter how much these people scrub, the TMA makes

them smelly. Having this problem does not make people sick in any

way, but it certainly is embarrassing.

You say that sometimes the fishy smell goes away, which makes me

think that if you stay away from foods with choline, you'll be fine.

The worst foods for you would be fish, eggs, liver, and kidney.

Avoid them. If that's not enough, then you should also stay away

from soybeans, peas, and mayonnaise. (Think of that--a doctor's

excuse not to eat liver and tofu!)

Eggs, soybeans, and mayonnaise can be hard to avoid, because they

are part of many packaged foods. At first, you'll have to think a

lot about things like whether a Big Mac has mayonnaise (it does).

You and your family will have to read the labels on packages very

carefully. But you'll soon learn what you can and cannot eat.

This diet is a pain, there's no doubt about that. But it's much less

of a pain than smelling like rotten fish. "

http://www.jhu.edu/~jhumag/496web/derzebra.html

Please do keep us posted. We hope you have just another messy kid!

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[Guest guest]

Not sure if this is at all related, but with ph's last regression using

an older bottle of EFA liquid that had traveled a bit unrefridgerated, top

left off - ie we had gotten rather careless with it - ph's mouth/breath

really started to smell foul...which it hadn't before on fishoil. The loss

of words, clarity and then finally coordination occurred over a peroid of 2

weeks. Once we switched to a fresh bottle, ph improved again over a

week. In the end we concluded that the oil had gone a bit rancid, and he was

therefore not benefiting from it. We now travel with the pills and puncture

them & squeeze the oil out. I have heard that some omegas on the market may

be a bit oxidized. We use nordic naturals because I have felt confident

that they have high standards for purity etc. Many of the off the counter

brands may very well be fine. I just haven't had the time or energy to look

into their quality control, so stick with what I know is good and

orking. -

Re: [ ] Re: Walmart's Spring Valley brand of

fish oils??

Just curious, why haven't you tried adding EPA?

Did you see any side effects to the EPA?

Ratliffp@... wrote: Hi, just

to add my 2 cents. I give my son 6 ProEFAs a day - 3 in a.m. and 3

in p.m. and I quit for about two weeks for some reason - can't remember

why

- and he actually regressed in speech. But before this regression, I had

started substituting one capsule with another brand both in the a.m. and

p.m. I

could not tell that this made a difference in his speech, but what I did

notice was the smell. His head was very fishy smelling, so I stopped

giving him

the Nature Made brand - I think it was and started back giving him only

ProEFA

and the smell has left. So I think I'll stay with the ProEFAs Nordic

Natural brand. It has really helped my son. Hope this helps. Phyllis

[Guest guest]

I am going to start adding EPA - next month. We just started the Gluten free

diet this week and I didn't want to introduce any new items in his diet, so

I could see if Gluten was actually harming him. After this trial period, I

plan to add EPA. I have read most of the posts and agree that may be helpful

to him, because the EFAs work fantastic. I wish others could get the same

results. Thanks, Phyllis

Hi, just to add

my 2 cents. I give my son 6 ProEFAs a day - 3 in a.m. and 3

> in p.m. and I quit for about two weeks for some reason - can't remember why

> - and he actually regressed in speech. But before this regression, I had

> started substituting one capsule with another brand both in the a.m. and

p.m. I

> could not tell that this made a difference in his speech, but what I did

> notice was the smell. His head was very fishy smelling, so I stopped giving

him

> the Nature Made brand - I think it was and started back giving him only

ProEFA

> and the smell has left. So I think I'll stay with the ProEFAs Nordic

> Natural brand. It has really helped my son. Hope this helps. Phyllis

>