vomitting is it always low ketones?

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Hello,

aël is a bit better, it's not worse and the t c seizures are really less

intensive, just at night when he wants to sleep..

Until then blood ketones level was very very low about 1.5 mmol/l.

Yersterday, he was so constipated that I tried to give him more MTC oil( the one

from the chemist instead of coconut oil or linseeds oil), I gave him 7 g at noon

with his meal ; he 's very pale and have rings under his eyes since we begun the

keto diet.

He vomitted by gush a lot, I suppose even his breakfast....

I've cheked his blood ket level and it was 4.9 mmol/l, it never had been so

high!

What do you give me as advices to keep high ketones but not vomitting...is

better oil one than other?

I use to give him just 3 g of MTC oil at every meal....

He's got trileptal at low dose ( 225mg at night)

I give him carnitine too.

Thank you both of you

Carolyn, aël's mum

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Carolyn,

If he's vomitting his meals his ketones are too high.

MCT oil or any other oil will increase his ketones too.

Any of these oils have to be calculated into meals at

the correct ratio otherwise he can get too ketotic

which will make him sick, too sleepy and refuse food.

The cheeks can become red too and the breathing

like panting. If any of these signs are there the ketones

can be lowered by giving a bit (10ml or so) orange juice.

You could try other things for constipation. Make sure

he has at least half as much Magnesium as he as of Calcium.

Drinking enough water is also important. The dr. can give

you somethings for constipation that won't interfere with

ketones.

Hope I have been of some help instead of confusing you.

Saro.......Rohan's mum

caronath wrote:

>Hello,

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>aël is a bit better, it's not worse and the t c seizures are really less

intensive, just at night when he wants to sleep..

>

>Until then blood ketones level was very very low about 1.5 mmol/l.

>Yersterday, he was so constipated that I tried to give him more MTC oil( the

one from the chemist instead of coconut oil or linseeds oil), I gave him 7 g at

noon with his meal ; he 's very pale and have rings under his eyes since we

begun the keto diet.

>

>He vomitted by gush a lot, I suppose even his breakfast....

>I've cheked his blood ket level and it was 4.9 mmol/l, it never had been so

high!

>What do you give me as advices to keep high ketones but not vomitting...is

better oil one than other?

>I use to give him just 3 g of MTC oil at every meal....

>He's got trileptal at low dose ( 225mg at night)

>I give him carnitine too.

>

>Thank you both of you

>

>Carolyn, aël's mum

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[Guest guest]

Very bad constipation can cause vomiting. High ketones can as well. This

can result in dehydration and throw the diet off. The paleness and rings

under the eyes can also be a sign of dehydration. Make sure fluids are

sufficient in this situation. Try to give milk of magnesia (original,

unflavoured) for constipation (It also helps with reflux). If the

constipation is bad you should use stronger methods if the milk of

magnesia doesn't work. If that doesn't work go to the doctor or the

hospital. It is a very serious situation. Unfortunately, it is also

common on the keto diet!

Bill

caronath wrote:

> Hello,

>

> aël is a bit better, it's not worse and the t c seizures are

> really less intensive, just at night when he wants to sleep..

>

> Until then blood ketones level was very very low about 1.5 mmol/l.

> Yersterday, he was so constipated that I tried to give him more MTC

> oil( the one from the chemist instead of coconut oil or linseeds

> oil), I gave him 7 g at noon with his meal ; he 's very pale and have

> rings under his eyes since we begun the keto diet.

>

> He vomitted by gush a lot, I suppose even his breakfast.... I've

> cheked his blood ket level and it was 4.9 mmol/l, it never had been

> so high! What do you give me as advices to keep high ketones but

> not vomitting...is better oil one than other? I use to give him just

> 3 g of MTC oil at every meal.... He's got trileptal at low dose (

> 225mg at night) I give him carnitine too.

>

> Thank you both of you

>

> Carolyn, aël's mum

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[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

Vomiting usually means the keytones are way too high, he was probally

way too ketotic. My daughter Stella got that way too, using the MCT

oil is a fine balance. We gave her 8g per meal and it was too much.

I've dropped it all together for a while, and focus on linseed or

coconut oil instead. Why not give him somewhere in the middle, say 5g

for a while to see if he can handle that. I do know if he is too

ketotic then he may have more seizures, stella did. The other thing is

to give him 1oz of orange juice to bring him out of the ketosis and see

if he feels better, usually takes about 15mins to notice a change.

The carnatine should be given daily, and most keto kids take that.

Try colace it is a stool softener, that may work for his constipation.

Stella is always very constipated, the MCT oil helped with that a

little, but w/ the amount of food she eats(she's not eating at the

moment though) I'm okay is she has 2 bowel movement s a week, just so

long as they are not hurting her. You should be able to buy the colace

over the counter w/o a prescription.

I'm so happy for you though, that the seizures are getting better,

that's great news. i often wonder how you are doing.

amanda

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> Hello,

>

> aël is a bit better, it's not worse and the t c seizures are

> really less intensive, just at night when he wants to sleep..

>

> Until then blood ketones level was very very low about 1.5 mmol/l.

> Yersterday, he was so constipated that I tried to give him more MTC

> oil( the one from the chemist instead of coconut oil or linseeds oil),

> I gave him 7 g at noon with his meal ; he 's very pale and have rings

> under his eyes since we begun the keto diet.

>

> He vomitted by gush a lot, I suppose even his breakfast....

> I've cheked his blood ket level and it was 4.9 mmol/l, it never had

> been so high!

> What do you give me as advices to keep high ketones but not

> vomitting...is better oil one than other?

> I use to give him just 3 g of MTC oil at every meal....

> He's got trileptal at low dose ( 225mg at night)

> I give him carnitine too.

>

> Thank you both of you

>

> Carolyn, aël's mum

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