Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the shots. Thanks Lori mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Lori - My son , was born premature and with CF. He suffered a perforated bowel at birth, spending 3 months in the intensive care. His lungs were also premature. He was given his 1st RSV shot before leaving the hospital and and received them every month there after that winter, the next year winter months and the next. He is approaching three years of age this year, and is not eligible for the shots. I am devistated. He has already had two colds this past month, and suspected pnumonia. He also ran his 1st fever EVER last month. I am a very strong believer in these shots. There were no side effects, only a very healthy baby. He had a few brief minor colds each winter, but no fevers, ear infections, or lung infections. We knew this year would be a test, and so far, I am really nervous about the months to come. We are taking all precaustions to keep him well - lots of hand washing, avoiding busy public areas, etc. If you can get the shots approved over the next few years, I strongly suggest them, as well as flu shots - we had both. Good luck! Melinda - son 2.5 yrs wcf and sister 25 wcf RSV Study Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the shots. Thanks Lori mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Melinda, This is certainly interesting. My twins were born premature as well - they were at 25.5 weeks gestation when they were born. They spent between 6 and 7 months in the hospital before coming home. had perforated bowel as well. They both got RSV shots last year, and will be getting them again this year. I don't know if I would have fought for RSV shots for next year, if the pediatrician didn't specifically recommend it, but I will now. Thanks, Mommy to Mick and Alli, 19 mo twins wcf, born way too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Melinda, Santosh has received Synergis shots for 3 years. He had RSV at 6 months of age, and strangely enough that's how he was diagnosed with CF at 9 months -that's a long story. But our insurance company approved the shots because he had had RSV - I know it's generally approved for children who are premature and/or have had RSV. Santosh was very healthy the past three years but I don't know if I attribute that completely to the shot. He did not go to school, the grocery store, church, or basically anywhere public all winter. I was too afraid because of what happened at 6 months, plus he was (and still is) very thin (31lbs at 4 years old) and every time he went on antibiotics he'd lose 3-5lbs then take a LONG time to gain it back. Now that he's older and stronger, he's in school. He is starting his 3rd cold in 6 weeks of school - it's one after another. His doctor is afraid it's from a sinus infection, so we're getting a CT scan in 2 weeks to get that checked out. I do think the shots helped but it's very difficult - Santosh had to have 2 shots - one in each leg because his arms are too thin and the dose for his weight was too big to fit in one shot. I wish you luck - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Krishnan Mom to Santosh, 4wcf and Leela, 2yowocf RE: RSV Study Lori - My son , was born premature and with CF. He suffered a perforated bowel at birth, spending 3 months in the intensive care. His lungs were also premature. He was given his 1st RSV shot before leaving the hospital and and received them every month there after that winter, the next year winter months and the next. He is approaching three years of age this year, and is not eligible for the shots. I am devistated. He has already had two colds this past month, and suspected pnumonia. He also ran his 1st fever EVER last month. I am a very strong believer in these shots. There were no side effects, only a very healthy baby. He had a few brief minor colds each winter, but no fevers, ear infections, or lung infections. We knew this year would be a test, and so far, I am really nervous about the months to come. We are taking all precaustions to keep him well - lots of hand washing, avoiding busy public areas, etc. If you can get the shots approved over the next few years, I strongly suggest them, as well as flu shots - we had both. Good luck! Melinda - son 2.5 yrs wcf and sister 25 wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 - Wow, you too had a rough start! And with two babies! My sister has CF, and I knew had CF in utero, but the whole preemie/bowel thing took things a step further that I could have never imagined. We are so thankful he is alive. We were able to get the 3rd round of shots because he was still under two when the rsv season started, and we asked if they would go ahead and cover the few months after December when he turned two. I guess after realizing they had already spent over half a million at birth, what was a few more thousand to keep him out of the hospital. I hated putting him through all the shots - he was up to two shots a visit for the dose, but in the long run, I think it really protected him another year. Best of luck! Melinda - son 2.5 yrs wcf and sister 25 wcf RE: RSV Study Hi Melinda, This is certainly interesting. My twins were born premature as well - they were at 25.5 weeks gestation when they were born. They spent between 6 and 7 months in the hospital before coming home. had perforated bowel as well. They both got RSV shots last year, and will be getting them again this year. I don't know if I would have fought for RSV shots for next year, if the pediatrician didn't specifically recommend it, but I will now. Thanks, Mommy to Mick and Alli, 19 mo twins wcf, born way too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Thanks Melinda, Big hospital bills certainly are the great motivator when it comes to getting coverage from the insurance companies. I've become super organized, and can pop in a mickey button at the speed of light, without flinching, but I would never ever admit my competance to the insurance company, because the more inept they think I am, the stronger a case I have for at home nursing care (which I can't live without!) and other necessities of life. Take care, C Mommy to Mick and Alli, 19 mo twins wcf RE: RSV Study - Wow, you too had a rough start! And with two babies! My sister has CF, and I knew had CF in utero, but the whole preemie/bowel thing took things a step further that I could have never imagined. We are so thankful he is alive. We were able to get the 3rd round of shots because he was still under two when the rsv season started, and we asked if they would go ahead and cover the few months after December when he turned two. I guess after realizing they had already spent over half a million at birth, what was a few more thousand to keep him out of the hospital. I hated putting him through all the shots - he was up to two shots a visit for the dose, but in the long run, I think it really protected him another year. Best of luck! Melinda - son 2.5 yrs wcf and sister 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hello Lori, I am so saddened to learn that your baby probably has CF as well. What have been his symptoms so far ? Does he taste salty ? You are in my thoughts.. Mom of Leo almost 3 wcf and Colin 5 months wo cf RSV Study Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the shots. Thanks Lori mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) [Non-text p ortions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Lori - I am considering a second child, my first is also 3. Did you have any amnio or CVS testing done while you were prengant w/the second? If so, was CF not found? Melinda RSV Study Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the shots. Thanks Lori mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) [Non-text p ortions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Lori - I can't really add too much regarding the synargis shots...although Walter participated in that study for 6 months before he turned 2. We were told in the beginning of the study that the vaccine had been thoroughly tested in preemies and was safe. If you can get your insurance to pay for it, it would probably be worthwhile. Congratulations also on the arrival of baby Vince. It must be wonderful to have cuddly newborn in your arms again. Hope everything is going well. Mom to Walter (4 w/CF) and (2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 HI Lori, What is the Synergis/RSV and what was the study about? I haven't heard of it in NZ (unless we go by another name for it). Regards, Margaret Todd RSV Study > Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a > new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor > whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any > info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the > shots. > > Thanks > > Lori > mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Lori, Congratulations on your baby Vince. Sorry to hear he may have Cf. Does he have the symptoms or did he have a blood test? RSV Study > Has anybody heard the results of the synargis/RSV study with CF? I have a > new baby who (98% sure) has CF and we are weighing with an HMO and CF doctor > whether to get him the shots or not - and if the HMO will pay for them. Any > info would be great - including personal stories of those who have used the > shots. > > Thanks > > Lori > mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (we think - sweat test in Nov.) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Hi, all; mentioned something else: that if your child has not yet been diagnosed with cf, but had a premature or traumatic birth and is at risk, many HMO's will use Synagis; they usually test for RSV antibodies first. n Rojas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 My son has (believe it or not) just been approved by our insurance for his 4th winter of Synergis. It is incredible, how healthy these potent little shots keep him. He's 3.5 years old and weighs 37 pounds and has never been in the hospital for anything other than clinic visits. In addition to the synergis, he gets the flu shot (as do all of us in the family for his sake) and we up the vitamins during the winter. I highly recommend, if you can get your insurance to cover this incredibly expensive shot(s), to get it. He has previously gotten 2 shots every 6 weeks from October through April; but this year he will need 3 shots due to his weight. We consider it practically magic and can't imagine a winter without it. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Believe me, I was shocked. But we have an INCREDIBLE clinic -- Children's D.C. -- and the physician there is super-agressive. And, as I said, he hasn't had any hospitalizations (save his initial 6 weeks at birth with 3 surgeries for a meconium ileus/ileostomy and reanastamosis) since. I like to think the insurance company is like Pavlov's dog -- looking at what works and sticking with it. But I have also learned to play my insurance company like MY fiddle. If they say no, I appeal (and eventually win) as with the vest, and his recent dental surgery which I got them to cover even though we don't have dental insurance. Our motto, as parents with children with CF is -- " When insurance companies say " NO, " they really mean " yes " -- you just have to fight hard enough to get there! Who told you you wouldn't be able to get it covered again? Appeal the ruling -- and hopefully they'll change their mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Remind your clinic/insurance that synergis isn't even approved for CF kids, period. I believe doctors were prescribing it due to the combination CF/premie. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Wow, how did you get this approved? I would love your advise on this. This will be my son's first year without them, and in 4 weeks, has had two colds, one of which he still has! Melinda -mom to son 2.5 yrs wcf Re: RSV Study[Melinda Pearson] to My son has (believe it or not) just been approved by our insurance for his 4th winter of Synergis. It is incredible, how healthy these potent little shots keep him. He's 3.5 years old and weighs 37 pounds and has never been in the hospital for anything other than clinic visits. In addition to the synergis, he gets the flu shot (as do all of us in the family for his sake) and we up the vitamins during the winter. I highly recommend, if you can get your insurance to cover this incredibly expensive shot(s), to get it. He has previously gotten 2 shots every 6 weeks from October through April; but this year he will need 3 shots due to his weight. We consider it practically magic and can't imagine a winter without it. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Well, we had to work a little magic last year because my son was turning 2 right in the middle of the season, and apparently if they are over two - no more RSV shots - accoring to their regulations?!? I have not even considered for this year, but have been so fearful of the onset of flu/rsv season. I will call my CF clinc here in Houston tomorrow and see what they think for my son (he aslo had a perforated bowel, ileostomy/reinastomosis). Thanks for responding! Melinda Re: RSV Study Believe me, I was shocked. But we have an INCREDIBLE clinic -- Children's D.C. -- and the physician there is super-agressive. And, as I said, he hasn't had any hospitalizations (save his initial 6 weeks at birth with 3 surgeries for a meconium ileus/ileostomy and reanastamosis) since. I like to think the insurance company is like Pavlov's dog -- looking at what works and sticking with it. But I have also learned to play my insurance company like MY fiddle. If they say no, I appeal (and eventually win) as with the vest, and his recent dental surgery which I got them to cover even though we don't have dental insurance. Our motto, as parents with children with CF is -- " When insurance companies say " NO, " they really mean " yes " -- you just have to fight hard enough to get there! Who told you you wouldn't be able to get it covered again? Appeal the ruling -- and hopefully they'll change their mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Yes, definately preemie, but another factor was that he gets albuterol in a nebulizer treament daily, and that qualified him last year, since RSV is a repiratory infection. Melinda Re: RSV Study Remind your clinic/insurance that synergis isn't even approved for CF kids, period. I believe doctors were prescribing it due to the combination CF/premie. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 What is synergis and RSV shots for? I'm from New Zealand. Perhaps we go by another name? Regards, Margaret Todd Re: RSV Study > My son has (believe it or not) just been approved by our insurance for his > 4th winter of Synergis. It is incredible, how healthy these potent little > shots keep him. He's 3.5 years old and weighs 37 pounds and has never been > in the hospital for anything other than clinic visits. In addition to the > synergis, he gets the flu shot (as do all of us in the family for his sake) > and we up the vitamins during the winter. I highly recommend, if you can get > your insurance to cover this incredibly expensive shot(s), to get it. He has > previously gotten 2 shots every 6 weeks from October through April; but this > year he will need 3 shots due to his weight. We consider it practically > magic and can't imagine a winter without it. Good luck. > > > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list. > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should > IN NO WAY > be construed as medical advice. > > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 My son had RSV shots through his third year because my pediatrician ordered it. He even wanted them this year (Santosh is 4) but left it up to my CF clinic, who didn't feel it was necessary. Maybe you could ask . . . Krishnan Mom to Santosh, 4wcf and Leela, 2wocf RE: RSV Study Well, we had to work a little magic last year because my son was turning 2 right in the middle of the season, and apparently if they are over two - no more RSV shots - accoring to their regulations?!? I have not even considered for this year, but have been so fearful of the onset of flu/rsv season. I will call my CF clinc here in Houston tomorrow and see what they think for my son (he aslo had a perforated bowel, ileostomy/reinastomosis). Thanks for responding! Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Lori, why did they tell you at your CVS that it was 98% that the baby had CF if you had an unknown mutation? How did they distinguish between that and just a carrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Yes I think he tastes salty. I also started him on enzymes when he was less than a week old - our CF Pulm. reccomended that. I noticed a change in his poops immediately. We had a CVS done at 11 weeks (during pregnancy) and it came back 98% sure he has CF. It can't be 100% because I have an unknown mutation. Anyway, for now he is doing great. He had gained a pound at his 2 week check up and I can tell at four weeks that he has gained quite a bit more. Starting him off with the enzymes really made a difference. Lori mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF(98% sure) > Hello Lori, > > I am so saddened to learn that your baby probably has CF as well. What have > been his symptoms so far ? Does he taste salty ? > > You are in my thoughts.. > > Mom of Leo almost 3 wcf and Colin 5 months wo cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 I kind of answered this in a previous post, but the problem was that I have an unknown mutation. We had also decided before we got pregnant that we would hav ethe baby CF or no CF. I just hope that in our case our kids have similar disease. So far Scout really has done well. (After diagnosis.) Lori Mom to Scout 3 wCF and Vince 4 weeks wCF (98% sure) > Lori - > > I am considering a second child, my first is also 3. Did you have any amnio > or CVS testing done while you were prengant w/the second? If so, was CF not > found? > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 I had a typo. in my first note - it is actually synagis. It is a shot they give premies and others who are at high risk for hospitalization if they get rsv. It isn't a vaccine - they have to get a shot every month during rsv season. It is more like getting an antibody shot for rsv. They did the study at our clinic a couple of years ago. Some patients got synagis and some got a placebo. They were supposed to track and see if there was a difference between the two groups and rsv infection/hospitalization, etc. Like most shots synagis isn't 100% protection. Lori > HI Lori, > > What is the Synergis/RSV and what was the study about? > > I haven't heard of it in NZ (unless we go by another name for it). > > Regards, > Margaret Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 The miracle of modern science was able to tell that Vince got the same chromosome 7 from me that Scout did. (They call checking this " linkage " .) So, that would mean he also got the same CF gene - unless the gene did something weird (which apparently can happen sometimes, thus the 2% possibility of just being a carrier). By something weird apparently sometimes during conception genes can hop from one chromosome to another - so he could have recieved the same choromosome 7 but the CF gene from my other chromosome 7. Wild huh? Lori > Lori, why did they tell you at your CVS that it was 98% that the baby had CF > if you had an unknown mutation? How did they distinguish between that and > just a carrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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