Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different combinations of vowels and consenants. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Hi : Has your son been diagnosed with apraxia? Have you looked up the symptoms of apraxia? Neuro soft signs of apraxia? The link below I found very helpful when I was researching apraxia. http://www.tayloredmktg.com/dyspraxia/das.shtml#what Tina > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I dont think the answer is a simple one. I would say to you, it sounds like apraxia. However, how old is your son? If he is very young, 18 mths-2 years old, its possible its developmental. Is he 4, or 5? then it sounds like apraxia. My daughter is almost 5 1/2, and still struggles with stop, go, red, and green. Unless she is really focusing on the correct pronouciation/articulation. As far as apraxia. Keep in mind its motor planning, the more complex the word, the harder to motor plan, the more difficulty he/she will have. Even in a simple (to you and me) word as green, or milk. Apraxics have substitutions or add-in letters. Example my daughter wants to say snow, but its sounds like sa-no. S'mores was sa'mores. She seems to add vowels after S. But also has letter deletion(s) Please is Pease. I completely understand your frustrations. Sorry I couldnt give you a more direct and short answer to your question. I would also say, keep it simple for yourself. Just call it apraxia for all of it. Dawn in NJ -- In , LiisaAnn@... wrote: > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 When a word has two consonant sounds together (a consonant cluster like st or gr) this makes the sound combinations of the word more complicated. The word stop for example would be harder to say than the word top. Developmentally, children acquire clusters a little later than individual sounds. For sound development, the age of the child is important as well as the patterns of errors produced, the frequency of errors and more. Also, if the child has a sound that is emerging (have just begun to use it), they may not always use it correctly in every position of the word or in every word. If you are concerned, having the child screened by a speech pathologist would be appropriate. Katina > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns out his tonsils were very swollen. He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. M. > > > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, > green go'. > > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make > the " r " sound > > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard > g in go, > > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's > ilk. He can > > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal > learning of > > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, > and different > > combinations of vowels and consenants. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns out his tonsils were very swollen. He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. M. > > > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, > green go'. > > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make > the " r " sound > > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard > g in go, > > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's > ilk. He can > > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal > learning of > > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, > and different > > combinations of vowels and consenants. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns out his tonsils were very swollen. He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. M. > > > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, > green go'. > > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make > the " r " sound > > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard > g in go, > > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's > ilk. He can > > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal > learning of > > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, > and different > > combinations of vowels and consenants. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns out his tonsils were very swollen. He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. M. > > > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, > green go'. > > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make > the " r " sound > > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard > g in go, > > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's > ilk. He can > > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal > learning of > > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, > and different > > combinations of vowels and consenants. > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 , That is great that you got the tonsils taken care of. It sounds like he was holding his jaw out to help open up his airway a little. What you wrote sounds right. So, depending on how his evaluations come out that will help determine along with you input what services he would qualify for. It sounds as though they are describing the possible options he might qualify for: developmental preschool-he would got to the preschool and get his therapy during school, he could ride the bus or you could take him, many kiddos love riding the bus (yep, they ride at 3), if he is in daycare riding the bus may be a good option if they will pick him up from/take him to daycare after or before developmental preschool community placement-he would continue to go to his or another preschool/daycare and get his services there, in my state there are preschools that some school districts will provide services in (but it is not always the one the child was in before) therapy services only - he would go to the school for therapy only How long ago were his tonsils removed? Katina > > Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated > independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the > time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, > holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns > out his tonsils were very swollen. > He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I > was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. > Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept > repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't > moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that > was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough > medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off > both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I > plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started > with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be > having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a > time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. > > I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options > mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where > they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately > not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years > old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem > like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting > the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on > that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three > separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. > M. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 , That is great that you got the tonsils taken care of. It sounds like he was holding his jaw out to help open up his airway a little. What you wrote sounds right. So, depending on how his evaluations come out that will help determine along with you input what services he would qualify for. It sounds as though they are describing the possible options he might qualify for: developmental preschool-he would got to the preschool and get his therapy during school, he could ride the bus or you could take him, many kiddos love riding the bus (yep, they ride at 3), if he is in daycare riding the bus may be a good option if they will pick him up from/take him to daycare after or before developmental preschool community placement-he would continue to go to his or another preschool/daycare and get his services there, in my state there are preschools that some school districts will provide services in (but it is not always the one the child was in before) therapy services only - he would go to the school for therapy only How long ago were his tonsils removed? Katina > > Thank you for your response. We did have him evaluated > independently, and she was almost sure it was apraxia, except at the > time he had something going on with his mouth, heavy breathing, > holding his lower jaw way out. So she couldn't be 100% sure. Turns > out his tonsils were very swollen. > He is 34 months, and lately his has been saying so many words, that I > was just thinking, hoping, maybe he really didn't have apraxia. > Last night he was sitting in the tub looking at me and he kept > repeating this word, I had no idea what he was saying. He wasn't > moving any facial muscles! No lips, no mouth, the only thing that > was moving was his tongue! I think this was due to some strong cough > medicine he was on, being tired, plus two weeks ago I took him off > both the fish oil and the vit e oil, only temporarily. In fact I > plan to start him up again on those tomorrow. But it all started > with a stomach bug, major diarreha and I thouht that he might be > having trouble digesting the oils. So I took him off them for a > time. And I think I might just be starting to see some regression. > > I had the first IEP meeting last week, and one of the options > mentioned to me was that he could take a bus! to the school where > they would have a classroom type setting style of therapy. Definately > not a one on one situation! Do kids ride the bus at three years > old??? Wow. At first, therapists coming to his day care didn't seem > like an option, but for some reason during the middle of the meeting > the school rep started talking like it was. So, I am confused on > that one. They're suppose to call within the month to sched three > separate evals. speech/lang., psych, and occup. > M. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hi Katina, Thank you for your reply. We actually didn't have to get his tonsils removed. The ENT doctor said that the were not swollen. Although two previous visits to the pediatric doctors said that they were, and they were at that time. I think he might have been having a reaction to something he had eaten, or drank. Like soy or dairy. Not sure. take care, M. > > , > > That is great that you got the tonsils taken care of. It sounds > like he was holding his jaw out to help open up his airway a > little. What you wrote sounds right. So, depending on how his > evaluations come out that will help determine along with you input > what services he would qualify for. It sounds as though they are > describing the possible options he might qualify for: > > developmental preschool-he would got to the preschool and get his > therapy during school, he could ride the bus or you could take him, > many kiddos love riding the bus (yep, they ride at 3), if he is in > daycare riding the bus may be a good option if they will pick him up > from/take him to daycare after or before developmental preschool > > community placement-he would continue to go to his or another > preschool/daycare and get his services there, in my state there are > preschools that some school districts will provide services in (but > it is not always the one the child was in before) > > therapy services only - he would go to the school for therapy only > > How long ago were his tonsils removed? > > Katina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hi Katina, Thank you for your reply. We actually didn't have to get his tonsils removed. The ENT doctor said that the were not swollen. Although two previous visits to the pediatric doctors said that they were, and they were at that time. I think he might have been having a reaction to something he had eaten, or drank. Like soy or dairy. Not sure. take care, M. > > , > > That is great that you got the tonsils taken care of. It sounds > like he was holding his jaw out to help open up his airway a > little. What you wrote sounds right. So, depending on how his > evaluations come out that will help determine along with you input > what services he would qualify for. It sounds as though they are > describing the possible options he might qualify for: > > developmental preschool-he would got to the preschool and get his > therapy during school, he could ride the bus or you could take him, > many kiddos love riding the bus (yep, they ride at 3), if he is in > daycare riding the bus may be a good option if they will pick him up > from/take him to daycare after or before developmental preschool > > community placement-he would continue to go to his or another > preschool/daycare and get his services there, in my state there are > preschools that some school districts will provide services in (but > it is not always the one the child was in before) > > therapy services only - he would go to the school for therapy only > > How long ago were his tonsils removed? > > Katina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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