Re: Can you be Pork Intollerant?

July 28, 2006

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

I'm allergic to pork (hives, swelling, the whole shebang). I'm also

allergic to nitrates/nitrites. You might want to try some uncured-

pork to see if you can handle it.

I thought I was just reacting to the preservatives until I got some

pork that I know was NOT treated and NOT handled with latex gloves

(allergic that, too). It was fresh dead pig, straight from the

farmer. And I reacted.

My doctor said there was no point in doing an allergy test--I have

other food allergies and am good at pinpointing problem foods.

ygg

July 28, 2006

, I also have DH. I eat pork all the time. I have also had bacon. You might have another allergy. If you did not prepare the meat yourself you need to be sure it is not coated with flour before cooking, although I don't believe pork usually is. dermaceliacgirl wrote: I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so illI thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since. Being celiac

with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have apork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I knowmore.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork orany kind of pork? in South FloridaPS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like Ihave for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments andmust say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am verygrateful for all of you.Dan S

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July 28, 2006

I just read and printed out some allergy info today. The article was

talking about how if you are allergic to 1 thing these 4 things are

more likely to cause you problems also. One of the ones it talked

about said If you are espicially sensitive to poison ivy, oak or sumac,

there is a increased chance that you will react to the following pork

and black pepper. do not know if this applys to you but yes it is

possible to be pork intollerant.

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

>

> PS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like I

> have for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments and

> must say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am very

> grateful for all of you.

>

July 28, 2006

i've always had issues with pork, until i tried natural pork. i always

dreaded when family wanted pork, but now i go to wild oats and buy the

natural pork. i can eat it without getting sick, i don't know if it

would be the same for you, just a thought.

lanie

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so

ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

>

> PS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like I

> have for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments and

> must say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am very

> grateful for all of you.

>

July 28, 2006

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so

ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

Not all bacon is gluten-free, and it is possible to be allergic to it

as well. Right now, about half of the brands of bacon at my local

store have switched to using soy sauce in their processing - that

means gluten.

Maureen

July 28, 2006

:

Just a note for your information: I have a friend who developed a food intolerance to pork and she is celiac. Food intolerances to many foods are common to celiacs, however the foods vary from person to person. Sorry, that is probably not too helpful -- but it is true. You may have an intolerance. Sometimes they do go away when we heal.

Tara

-----Original Message-----From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of dermaceliacgirlSent: July 28, 2006 12:17 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Can you be Pork Intollerant?

I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so illI thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since. Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have apork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I knowmore.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork orany kind of pork? in South FloridaPS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like Ihave for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments andmust say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am verygrateful for all of you.

July 28, 2006

:

Just a note for your information: I have a friend who developed a food intolerance to pork and she is celiac. Food intolerances to many foods are common to celiacs, however the foods vary from person to person. Sorry, that is probably not too helpful -- but it is true. You may have an intolerance. Sometimes they do go away when we heal.

Tara

-----Original Message-----From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of dermaceliacgirlSent: July 28, 2006 12:17 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Can you be Pork Intollerant?

I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so illI thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since. Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have apork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I knowmore.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork orany kind of pork? in South FloridaPS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like Ihave for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments andmust say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am verygrateful for all of you.

July 28, 2006

:

Just a note for your information: I have a friend who developed a food intolerance to pork and she is celiac. Food intolerances to many foods are common to celiacs, however the foods vary from person to person. Sorry, that is probably not too helpful -- but it is true. You may have an intolerance. Sometimes they do go away when we heal.

Tara

-----Original Message-----From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of dermaceliacgirlSent: July 28, 2006 12:17 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Can you be Pork Intollerant?

I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so illI thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since. Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have apork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I knowmore.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork orany kind of pork? in South FloridaPS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like Ihave for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments andmust say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am verygrateful for all of you.

July 28, 2006

Pork generally make my tummy feel flooopy. I avoid it unless some

kind of social situation demands that I eat it. I can handle a bit

of bacon, sometimes a touch of sausage, a nibble of ham, and that's

it. Pork chops? No thanks. Roast pork? Gag me.

One of my daughters routinely throws up after eating hot dogs. If

it's an all beef frank she's OK. But if it's a restaurant frank,

I can pretty much guarantee she'll be hugging that throne.

I think that one CAN be pork intolerant.

True allergy is possible also. After all, allergens are proteins

and pork is a protein.

I think " gun shy " is your body's way of trying to tell you

something. Heed it. Is it really worth getting sick over?

Esther in RI

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

>

> PS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like I

> have for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments and

> must say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am very

> grateful for all of you.

>

July 28, 2006

Pork generally make my tummy feel flooopy. I avoid it unless some

kind of social situation demands that I eat it. I can handle a bit

of bacon, sometimes a touch of sausage, a nibble of ham, and that's

it. Pork chops? No thanks. Roast pork? Gag me.

One of my daughters routinely throws up after eating hot dogs. If

it's an all beef frank she's OK. But if it's a restaurant frank,

I can pretty much guarantee she'll be hugging that throne.

I think that one CAN be pork intolerant.

True allergy is possible also. After all, allergens are proteins

and pork is a protein.

I think " gun shy " is your body's way of trying to tell you

something. Heed it. Is it really worth getting sick over?

Esther in RI

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

>

> PS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like I

> have for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments and

> must say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am very

> grateful for all of you.

>

July 28, 2006

,

My husband is! It took us a while to figure it out. We went on

vacation (of a sort) and ate 3 time more pork than usual.

He got the worst rheumatoid arthritis symptoms! It went from his

wrists, to his elbows, and then up to his shoulders--he was in so

much joint pain, he couldn't even move (it was HORRIBLE!!!).

Thankfully, I was a " Food Natzi " at the time, and decided it was the

pork. In only 3 days of avoiding pork, he regained full use of both

arms, and in a week had no pain or symptoms whatsoever. He still

has no symptoms--and eats no pork. Of course, he has tested

the " pork thing " and has decided to avoid pork by himself! (READ: I

was right!) ;-)

" In rheumatoid arthritis, multiple joints are usually inflamed in a

symmetrical pattern (both sides of the body affected). The small

joints of both the hands and wrists are often involved. "

http://www.medicinenet.com/rheumatoid_arthritis/page2.htm

The page also says, " ...factors in the environment might trigger the

immune system to attack the body's own tissues... "

Well, good thing I'm not a doctor, or he'd still have rheumatoid

arthritis!

He's also SUPER allergic to poison ivy...

Connie

GF since 1-'98

July 29, 2006

Connie!

That's fascinating.

It brought to mind the plight of my beloved brother (RIP)

who suffered so dearly with gouty arthritis. The doctors told

him to avoid foods high in purine (mainly shellfish), but a

google today (years too late) reveals that pork is also high

in purine. See:

http://www.britishdalmatianclub.org.uk/downloads/Purine%20Table%202003.htm

Did your DH's doc's say for sure rheumatoid arthritis versus

gouty arthritis? My brother could barely walk some days the

pain was so severe.

Esther in RI

>

> ,

>

> My husband is! It took us a while to figure it out. We went on

> vacation (of a sort) and ate 3 time more pork than usual.

> He got the worst rheumatoid arthritis symptoms! It went from his

> wrists, to his elbows, and then up to his shoulders--he was in so

> much joint pain, he couldn't even move (it was HORRIBLE!!!).

> Thankfully, I was a " Food Natzi " at the time, and decided it was the

> pork. In only 3 days of avoiding pork, he regained full use of both

> arms, and in a week had no pain or symptoms whatsoever. He still

> has no symptoms--and eats no pork. Of course, he has tested

> the " pork thing " and has decided to avoid pork by himself! (READ: I

> was right!) ;-)

>

> " In rheumatoid arthritis, multiple joints are usually inflamed in a

> symmetrical pattern (both sides of the body affected). The small

> joints of both the hands and wrists are often involved. "

> http://www.medicinenet.com/rheumatoid_arthritis/page2.htm

> The page also says, " ...factors in the environment might trigger the

> immune system to attack the body's own tissues... "

> Well, good thing I'm not a doctor, or he'd still have rheumatoid

> arthritis!

>

> He's also SUPER allergic to poison ivy...

>

> Connie

> GF since 1-'98

>

July 29, 2006

more on pork's role in gouty arthritis:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/19057/symptoms_causes_and_treatments_fo\

r.html

nb, while feet are most commonly associated with gout, it can

also hit hands, arms, and even EARLOBES!

(I laugh at the earlobes part because my hubby sometimes chides me

about my various aches and pains.... " Do your eyes hurt today?

toes? fingernails? earlobes? hair? " And yes, sometimes even my

hair hurts [fever or migraine can make my hair/scalp feel painful].)

> >

> > ,

> >

> > My husband is! It took us a while to figure it out. We went on

> > vacation (of a sort) and ate 3 time more pork than usual.

> > He got the worst rheumatoid arthritis symptoms! It went from his

> > wrists, to his elbows, and then up to his shoulders--he was in so

> > much joint pain, he couldn't even move (it was HORRIBLE!!!).

> > Thankfully, I was a " Food Natzi " at the time, and decided it was the

> > pork. In only 3 days of avoiding pork, he regained full use of both

> > arms, and in a week had no pain or symptoms whatsoever. He still

> > has no symptoms--and eats no pork. Of course, he has tested

> > the " pork thing " and has decided to avoid pork by himself! (READ: I

> > was right!) ;-)

> >

> > " In rheumatoid arthritis, multiple joints are usually inflamed in a

> > symmetrical pattern (both sides of the body affected). The small

> > joints of both the hands and wrists are often involved. "

> > http://www.medicinenet.com/rheumatoid_arthritis/page2.htm

> > The page also says, " ...factors in the environment might trigger the

> > immune system to attack the body's own tissues... "

> > Well, good thing I'm not a doctor, or he'd still have rheumatoid

> > arthritis!

> >

> > He's also SUPER allergic to poison ivy...

> >

> > Connie

> > GF since 1-'98

> >

>

July 29, 2006

One of the side effects of the intestines being damaged is added

intolerances to things like lactose and fats. Apparantly, the part of

the villi that is necessary for the digestion of fats is very close to

the end and, with me and others I have read about, was one of the first

(unrecognized) signs of CD. Given time on a gf diet, you should be able

to reintroduce these items. Otoh, I still cannot handle beef at all.

This includes something as small as sharing a grill or McD's french

fries (but BK fries are fine, but they don't have added beef to their

fries.) I also can't handle the fats in cream sauces (alfredo's for

example,) having the same gut churning, wanna die feeling as from beef.

I am able to handle almost all other meats, though, just not " red "

meats, which includes lamb and osterich, lol! (Pork, apparently, is not

" red " according to my gut, and I can eat it fine now.)

This may or may not be what's bothering you. Just thought I'd add my 2

cents.

>

> I'm gun shy of eating pork. Last year I had some bacon and got so ill

> I thought my time was up (really!)so I haven't had ANY pork since.

> Being celiac with DH I run scared sometimes...would love to have a

> pork chop one of these days, but not willing to try until I know

> more.Does anyone else have a problem with pork? is the cured pork or

> any kind of pork?

>

> in South Florida

>

> PS thank you all...I sit here in my father's hospital room, like I

> have for the last 5 weeks, reading all your entries and comments and

> must say they do make my day..I learn so much hear and am very

> grateful for all of you.

>

July 29, 2006

Connie...this is similar to DH issues, the way the symptoms appear -

when DH's have outbreaks its polar/mirror like to the body (if you

have one outbreak on one arm, youwill have it in the same place onthe

other arm - of course stress doesn't count, when we break out due to

stress it can happen anywhere).

Thanks everybody for you advice...I don't NEED to eat pork as I am

able to eat all beef hotdogs (ball park) and beef, chicken, fish (not

shell fish), and turkey so I would say I'm happy that I have that

going for me.