Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues

[Guest guest]

Hi -

I think I'd try roll-playing with him. Teach him how to play with

others WITHOUT giving up his ideas. Also, often kids play chase, or

dump, or dig because they don't have the skills to do anything more

complicated than that. Why not teach him to play Tag, a more

complicated (and age appropriate) version of tag. Then you can

modify and teach kick the can, freeze tag, etc.. He'll need to be

taught his play skills - and you can explain what and why you're

doing what you're doing.

good luck M

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say my son is rigid, but he does seem to have some

trouble knowing how to play with other kids. He wants to, he just

doesn't seem to know how, and it seems to me that motor planning

problems, the language barrier and some of the limb apraxia-like

symptoms (and maybe some motor skills difficulties) are the cause of

this. I don't know if mine is old enough to be able to tell that he

doesn't quite fit in, and his language isn't far enough along for

him to tell me things like, " no one likes me " but I feel for you in

your concern. Maybe more structured activities would help?

Something physical, a gymnastics class or sports, something where

you could help him practice the basics and then he could have a more

routine way to interact with the kids. Just a thought. I wish you

well!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

I think I'd try roll-playing with him. Teach him how to play with

others WITHOUT giving up his ideas. Also, often kids play chase, or

dump, or dig because they don't have the skills to do anything more

complicated than that. Why not teach him to play Tag, a more

complicated (and age appropriate) version of tag. Then you can

modify and teach kick the can, freeze tag, etc.. He'll need to be

taught his play skills - and you can explain what and why you're

doing what you're doing.

good luck M

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried going gluten/casien free?

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say my son is rigid, but he does seem to have some

trouble knowing how to play with other kids. He wants to, he just

doesn't seem to know how, and it seems to me that motor planning

problems, the language barrier and some of the limb apraxia-like

symptoms (and maybe some motor skills difficulties) are the cause of

this. I don't know if mine is old enough to be able to tell that he

doesn't quite fit in, and his language isn't far enough along for

him to tell me things like, " no one likes me " but I feel for you in

your concern. Maybe more structured activities would help?

Something physical, a gymnastics class or sports, something where

you could help him practice the basics and then he could have a more

routine way to interact with the kids. Just a thought. I wish you

well!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I have considered it, but the only things he really eats are pastas

(carbs) and milk products. I have read that many kids who crave these

things the most need them the least, but I am at a loss. I don't know

what he will eat. I spoke to his dev pediatrician about it b/c she

does a lot of research regarding dietary issues and autism. She

didn't really give me an answer either way.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

> disorder. He

> > is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> > example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

> his

> > " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

> skills,

> > and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

> example,

> > but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

> wondering if

> > anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

> >

> > I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> > his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

> a

> > lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

> him.

> > He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

> friends " .

> > I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

> really

> > concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> > gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

> in an

> > inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

> any

> > problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

> regulation

> > issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

> if

> > he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> > increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

> >

> > Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

> >

> > Jeanine

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried going gluten/casien free?

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I have considered it, but the only things he really eats are pastas

(carbs) and milk products. I have read that many kids who crave these

things the most need them the least, but I am at a loss. I don't know

what he will eat. I spoke to his dev pediatrician about it b/c she

does a lot of research regarding dietary issues and autism. She

didn't really give me an answer either way.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

> disorder. He

> > is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> > example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

> his

> > " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

> skills,

> > and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

> example,

> > but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

> wondering if

> > anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

> >

> > I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> > his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

> a

> > lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

> him.

> > He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

> friends " .

> > I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

> really

> > concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> > gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

> in an

> > inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

> any

> > problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

> regulation

> > issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

> if

> > he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> > increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

> >

> > Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

> >

> > Jeanine

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you already had a sensory integration eval by certified therapist? Hi is

still young but perhaps sensory integ. therapy (which is play and physically

based) would be helpful. I think you said his lang. was ok but if there is a

motor planning problem and he gets over stimulated (especially in physical

activities) he may not be able to make the subtle transitions other children do.

Language, sensory issues, flexibility (I mean emotional vs physical), motor

planning seem to be all interconnected. Intervening with therapy at a young age

could be useful if you find what type your child needs.

Also there are different types of social pragmatic groups that stress being

able to play, problem solve etc in groups. Often this is also done in gym or

play environment where most young kids with these issues can fall apart. Maybe

you can find one in your area for your child's age group (a local development

psychologist may know some programs). If not, get the right outside testing and

ask the school to provide it within his school day. As of 3 yrs., it is the

public schools responsibility to provide services that allow your child to

access the curriculum (social as well as academic!).

Good luck and know there are services out there to help.

karen

myjunkytrash <myjunkytrash@...> wrote:

I wouldn't say my son is rigid, but he does seem to have some

trouble knowing how to play with other kids. He wants to, he just

doesn't seem to know how, and it seems to me that motor planning

problems, the language barrier and some of the limb apraxia-like

symptoms (and maybe some motor skills difficulties) are the cause of

this. I don't know if mine is old enough to be able to tell that he

doesn't quite fit in, and his language isn't far enough along for

him to tell me things like, " no one likes me " but I feel for you in

your concern. Maybe more structured activities would help?

Something physical, a gymnastics class or sports, something where

you could help him practice the basics and then he could have a more

routine way to interact with the kids. Just a thought. I wish you

well!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I was worried about what my kids would eat when we went dairy and

gluten free also, since all the foods they liked fell in those groups.

It's not hard to make gluten-free baked goods (feel free to email me

if you want to talk about gf baking), and my kids now like rice stick

in place of pasta. Tinkyada and Ancient Harvest also make good gf pastas.

The gfcf diet is hard at first, but worth it if your child is a responder.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

> > disorder. He

> > > is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> > > example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

> > his

> > > " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

> > skills,

> > > and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

> > example,

> > > but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

> > wondering if

> > > anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

> > >

> > > I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> > > his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

> > a

> > > lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

> > him.

> > > He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

> > friends " .

> > > I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

> > really

> > > concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> > > gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

> > in an

> > > inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

> > any

> > > problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

> > regulation

> > > issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

> > if

> > > he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> > > increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

> > >

> > > Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

> > >

> > > Jeanine

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was very hesitant to go casien/gluten free, but it's worth a try. If you are

interested, eliminate casein first. Try soy milk or rice dream rice milk (what

we use). We mixed it in with normal milk until we eliminated it since my

daughter is very hesitant to try new things and was sensitive to the taste. Now

she loves rice milk. They say it takes at least 3 days for the casein to be out

of the system. Of course, no milk means no butter, cheese, yogurt, milk

chocolate, etc. It is very hard to stick to, but if you see results it is worth

it. If that goes well, you can try eliminating gluten, which to us was harder.

We were told it takes at least 8 months to see full results of taking out

gluten. Diet changes and restrictions are difficult, but some people have seen

amazing results. There are good books on the topic that are really helpful,

especially if you go gluten free.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

I would caution you not to replace dairy with soy, since a good number

of children who cannot tolerate dairy are either sensitive to soy or

develop a sensitivity to it. No milk sub tastes like cow milk, so it's

better to just switch to water and some juice initially until your

child forgets that taste and is then more accepting of rice milk or

almond milk. Be aware that rice dream contains gluten as well.

I would actually eliminate dairy and gluten at the same time, since

otherwise you will have to go through two major food transitions. I

think it's better to just make one big change, and then you are also

more likely to see results sooner.

My $.02,

>

> I was very hesitant to go casien/gluten free, but it's worth a try.

If you are interested, eliminate casein first. Try soy milk or rice

dream rice milk (what we use). We mixed it in with normal milk until

we eliminated it since my daughter is very hesitant to try new things

and was sensitive to the taste. Now she loves rice milk. They say it

takes at least 3 days for the casein to be out of the system. Of

course, no milk means no butter, cheese, yogurt, milk chocolate, etc.

It is very hard to stick to, but if you see results it is worth it.

If that goes well, you can try eliminating gluten, which to us was

harder. We were told it takes at least 8 months to see full results

of taking out gluten. Diet changes and restrictions are difficult,

but some people have seen amazing results. There are good books on

the topic that are really helpful, especially if you go gluten free.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you already had a sensory integration eval by certified therapist? Hi is

still young but perhaps sensory integ. therapy (which is play and physically

based) would be helpful. I think you said his lang. was ok but if there is a

motor planning problem and he gets over stimulated (especially in physical

activities) he may not be able to make the subtle transitions other children do.

Language, sensory issues, flexibility (I mean emotional vs physical), motor

planning seem to be all interconnected. Intervening with therapy at a young age

could be useful if you find what type your child needs.

Also there are different types of social pragmatic groups that stress being

able to play, problem solve etc in groups. Often this is also done in gym or

play environment where most young kids with these issues can fall apart. Maybe

you can find one in your area for your child's age group (a local development

psychologist may know some programs). If not, get the right outside testing and

ask the school to provide it within his school day. As of 3 yrs., it is the

public schools responsibility to provide services that allow your child to

access the curriculum (social as well as academic!).

Good luck and know there are services out there to help.

karen

myjunkytrash <myjunkytrash@...> wrote:

I wouldn't say my son is rigid, but he does seem to have some

trouble knowing how to play with other kids. He wants to, he just

doesn't seem to know how, and it seems to me that motor planning

problems, the language barrier and some of the limb apraxia-like

symptoms (and maybe some motor skills difficulties) are the cause of

this. I don't know if mine is old enough to be able to tell that he

doesn't quite fit in, and his language isn't far enough along for

him to tell me things like, " no one likes me " but I feel for you in

your concern. Maybe more structured activities would help?

Something physical, a gymnastics class or sports, something where

you could help him practice the basics and then he could have a more

routine way to interact with the kids. Just a thought. I wish you

well!

>

> Hi,

>

> My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

disorder. He

> is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

his

> " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

skills,

> and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

example,

> but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

wondering if

> anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

>

> I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

a

> lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

him.

> He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

friends " .

> I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

really

> concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

in an

> inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

any

> problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

regulation

> issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

if

> he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

>

> Jeanine

>

[Guest guest]

I was worried about what my kids would eat when we went dairy and

gluten free also, since all the foods they liked fell in those groups.

It's not hard to make gluten-free baked goods (feel free to email me

if you want to talk about gf baking), and my kids now like rice stick

in place of pasta. Tinkyada and Ancient Harvest also make good gf pastas.

The gfcf diet is hard at first, but worth it if your child is a responder.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My son is 3 and 1/2. He has oral-motor dyspraxia and SI

> > disorder. He

> > > is EXTREMELY rigid about his routine and his style of play. For

> > > example, he only wants to play " chase " with his friends. Some of

> > his

> > > " typical " friends have started to develop more advanced play

> > skills,

> > > and they don't want to only play " chase " . This is just one

> > example,

> > > but this behavior applies to other things as well. I was

> > wondering if

> > > anyone else has experienced this, and how have you handled it?

> > >

> > > I am also not sure if he is internalizing some of this rejection by

> > > his peers. He is fairly verbal now (thanks to ProEFA), but he has

> > a

> > > lot of trouble answering questions so I cannot get much out of

> > him.

> > > He has started to say that " no one likes him " or " I have no

> > friends " .

> > > I don't want to make " mountains out of mole hills " , but I am

> > really

> > > concerned about this. When children won't play the way he wants he

> > > gets upset and then will again say that no one likes him. He is

> > in an

> > > inclusion class at pre-school, and the teacher says there aren't

> > any

> > > problems so far. I have heard that from her about his self-

> > regulation

> > > issues too though so I am not sure if she just isn't seeing it or

> > if

> > > he is holding things together while at school. It's becoming

> > > increasingly hard for him to have playdates b/c of his behaviors.

> > >

> > > Any insights would be greatly appreciated!!

> > >

> > > Jeanine

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was very hesitant to go casien/gluten free, but it's worth a try. If you are

interested, eliminate casein first. Try soy milk or rice dream rice milk (what

we use). We mixed it in with normal milk until we eliminated it since my

daughter is very hesitant to try new things and was sensitive to the taste. Now

she loves rice milk. They say it takes at least 3 days for the casein to be out

of the system. Of course, no milk means no butter, cheese, yogurt, milk

chocolate, etc. It is very hard to stick to, but if you see results it is worth

it. If that goes well, you can try eliminating gluten, which to us was harder.

We were told it takes at least 8 months to see full results of taking out

gluten. Diet changes and restrictions are difficult, but some people have seen

amazing results. There are good books on the topic that are really helpful,

especially if you go gluten free.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

I would caution you not to replace dairy with soy, since a good number

of children who cannot tolerate dairy are either sensitive to soy or

develop a sensitivity to it. No milk sub tastes like cow milk, so it's

better to just switch to water and some juice initially until your

child forgets that taste and is then more accepting of rice milk or

almond milk. Be aware that rice dream contains gluten as well.

I would actually eliminate dairy and gluten at the same time, since

otherwise you will have to go through two major food transitions. I

think it's better to just make one big change, and then you are also

more likely to see results sooner.

My $.02,

>

> I was very hesitant to go casien/gluten free, but it's worth a try.

If you are interested, eliminate casein first. Try soy milk or rice

dream rice milk (what we use). We mixed it in with normal milk until

we eliminated it since my daughter is very hesitant to try new things

and was sensitive to the taste. Now she loves rice milk. They say it

takes at least 3 days for the casein to be out of the system. Of

course, no milk means no butter, cheese, yogurt, milk chocolate, etc.

It is very hard to stick to, but if you see results it is worth it.

If that goes well, you can try eliminating gluten, which to us was

harder. We were told it takes at least 8 months to see full results

of taking out gluten. Diet changes and restrictions are difficult,

but some people have seen amazing results. There are good books on

the topic that are really helpful, especially if you go gluten free.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

My 10-yr-old, who I don't think is apraxic, but definitely is ADD and has some

other sensory issues, struggled with this same issue (and still does). I

role-played with him a lot, and helped him find activites that he could

participate in well. It has helped him, but the thing that has helped us the

most is I started homeschooling him (may not be a possibility for you), and I

have been working on developing his strengths and talents (which is always a

possibility:). He is gifted, but has such a low self-esteem, because

friendships are hard for him to maintain. He has developed a few friends at

church, and seems to be seeking out friendships that are with kind children,

instead of beating his head against the wall with the other children who would

ostracize him. His homeschool friends are just as eccentric as he is, so it

doesn't matter anymore. LOL However, I could see him going back to the public

school, and getting swallowed up again. I don't know if that helps, but you

just may have to keep working with him, and encourage those friendships with

children who are accepting of him. By the way, we did just put him on a gluten

free diet, and working on the milk free, which I do think has helped.

I know that it is frightening to watch your children struggle with basic playing

skills---my son has struggled all his life. He was 8 when I finally pulled him

out of school, and we have had a long, hard road to correct some of his social

skills, but he has greatly improved! However, he was never in any kind of

therapy, an advantage I am assuming that your son has:) Slowly, my son is

learning that being different is okay:)

Just some thoughts,

Kim K.

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

My 10-yr-old, who I don't think is apraxic, but definitely is ADD and has some

other sensory issues, struggled with this same issue (and still does). I

role-played with him a lot, and helped him find activites that he could

participate in well. It has helped him, but the thing that has helped us the

most is I started homeschooling him (may not be a possibility for you), and I

have been working on developing his strengths and talents (which is always a

possibility:). He is gifted, but has such a low self-esteem, because

friendships are hard for him to maintain. He has developed a few friends at

church, and seems to be seeking out friendships that are with kind children,

instead of beating his head against the wall with the other children who would

ostracize him. His homeschool friends are just as eccentric as he is, so it

doesn't matter anymore. LOL However, I could see him going back to the public

school, and getting swallowed up again. I don't know if that helps, but you

just may have to keep working with him, and encourage those friendships with

children who are accepting of him. By the way, we did just put him on a gluten

free diet, and working on the milk free, which I do think has helped.

I know that it is frightening to watch your children struggle with basic playing

skills---my son has struggled all his life. He was 8 when I finally pulled him

out of school, and we have had a long, hard road to correct some of his social

skills, but he has greatly improved! However, he was never in any kind of

therapy, an advantage I am assuming that your son has:) Slowly, my son is

learning that being different is okay:)

Just some thoughts,

Kim K.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

[ ] Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration

Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues

Have you tried going gluten/casien free?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

[ ] Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration

Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues

Have you tried going gluten/casien free?

[Guest guest]

Jola,

We started the gfcf diet mainly because we found out our children had

intollerences to them through Nutrition Response Testing. But before that I had

tried it before to see if taking away wheat would make any changes to my 3 yr

old behavior and sensory issues, it did but I didn't do it long enough to see

real results.

It's really all trial and error process

Janel

Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues Posted

by: " Ben & Jola Obire " benjolarac@... benjolarac Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:31

pm (PST) Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

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[Guest guest]

Jola,

We started the gfcf diet mainly because we found out our children had

intollerences to them through Nutrition Response Testing. But before that I had

tried it before to see if taking away wheat would make any changes to my 3 yr

old behavior and sensory issues, it did but I didn't do it long enough to see

real results.

It's really all trial and error process

Janel

Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues Posted

by: " Ben & Jola Obire " benjolarac@... benjolarac Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:31

pm (PST) Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Janel. I will give it a try by taking out wheat from his diet just to

see any behavioral changes.

Jola

(Jesus is the way the truth and the Life no man comes to the father but by him

14:6)

[ ] Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration

Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues

Jola,

We started the gfcf diet mainly because we found out our children had

intollerences to them through Nutrition Response Testing. But before that I had

tried it before to see if taking away wheat would make any changes to my 3 yr

old behavior and sensory issues, it did but I didn't do it long enough to see

real results.

It's really all trial and error process

Janel

Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration Issues/Rigidity/ Behavioral issues Posted by:

" Ben & Jola Obire " benjolarac (DOT) com benjolarac Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:31 pm

(PST) Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Janel. I will give it a try by taking out wheat from his diet just to

see any behavioral changes.

Jola

(Jesus is the way the truth and the Life no man comes to the father but by him

14:6)

[ ] Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration

Issues/Rigidity/Behavioral issues

Jola,

We started the gfcf diet mainly because we found out our children had

intollerences to them through Nutrition Response Testing. But before that I had

tried it before to see if taking away wheat would make any changes to my 3 yr

old behavior and sensory issues, it did but I didn't do it long enough to see

real results.

It's really all trial and error process

Janel

Re: Apraxia/Sensory Integration Issues/Rigidity/ Behavioral issues Posted by:

" Ben & Jola Obire " benjolarac (DOT) com benjolarac Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:31 pm

(PST) Hi,

I just wanted to find out why some kids have to go on Gluten/Casien Free diet?

What are the reasons and the benefits.

I would very much appreciate if this is answered.

Jola

------------ --------- --------- ---

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