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Hi Trina

I live in Australia as well. I have a 6 yr old with verbal

dyspraxia. He was diagnosed at about 3 and 1/2 years of age.

Before the diagnosis he had been going to speech therapy from 17

months of age. As far as I can tell, he only has problems with

speech which also affects his school work in particular maths and

literacy. He can ride a two wheel bike without training wheels, he

plays soccer (he isn't the best player). I had him assessed by an

OT and she didn't find too much to comment upon.

I am having the same problems in finding Vit E gamma. I have put my

son on 200 iu of Vit E(alpha) a day. I tried 400 iu but he kept

complaining of tummy pain. did suggest to try a non soy

based Vit E, but I live in regional Australia and is pretty hard to

find. He seems to tolerate the 200 iu and his speech seemed to

improve within 2-3 days even on a smaller dose than everyone else

here is using. I have a cupboard full of different omega 3s that I

have tried. The best one that works for us is the " Efalex " brand,

the capsules are smaller and almost oval in shape. I encourage him

to swallow them whole. We have had bad experiences with other brands

as he can taste the " fishy " taste even if it is masked with a citrus

flavour. He has been on Efalex for about 2 weeks and I think

is right the combination of Vit E and Omega 3 is probably the key in

unlocking apraxia or dyspraxia. My son takes 1 Efalex and 1Vit E in

the morning with breakfast. Breakfast for him is a peanut paste

sandwich (at his request) and a glass of milk. I can't wait to

increase the dose of Efalex but I have to be cautious and get him

used to the Efalex. I have a friend who uses NATURE'S WAY KIDS

SMART fish burstlet. Her kids don't have dyspraxia and enjoy the

lime flavour.

I think capsules are probably more convenient and tend to store

better. But if omega 3's in juice works, stick with it.

I hope this is helpful. I am fairly new as well, as I joined in

June. I try to read what people have to say everyday and learn as

much as possible.

Loreta

In , " trina3103 " <trina3103@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello All.

> I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

accross

> this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups, be

> it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

group

> very informative and helpful.

> My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with Verbal

> Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

ProEFA

> liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes in

> 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma although

I

> have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols'. This brand I

am

> using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic as

it

> mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

just

> float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

cup

> once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

about

> 10 to start with).

> My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

another 'newbie'

> are these:

> 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the capsules?

> 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> using?

> 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is this

> the same as Gamma?

> 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

constantly,

> but as there is very little known about all this over here and

there

> is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit of

> reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

any

> information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> much help!

> Katrina

>

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Thanks for your reply Loreta, it was great to hear your story. I have also been

usuing Efalex liquid but Fletcher wouldn't have a bar of it - unfortunately he

is too young to swallow capsules so I have only been able to use the liquid. I

actually started using it months ago on my eldest son (Mac, 6 with no problems)

as he started school this year and I noticed he was struggling with his reading

and writing. We (including Mac) saw an amazing improvement - he's now loving

school as he can now see results for all his hard work. When Fletcher was

diagnosed (about 5 weeks ago) I thought I'd put him on it too but he did not

like the taste. I then tried Eye Q but he wouldn't have that either. Then I

came accross this group and discovered N.N. ProEFA and Vit. E. I have now put

both boys on ProEFA and E (for some reason Fletcher tolerates both) but I have

only seen a slight improvement in Fletcher and I am now thinking Mac may be

going backwards with his school work. I will

probably put Mac back on Efalex but keep Fletcher going with the Pro EFA. I

stopped using Efalex as I was under the impression that it did not have the

correct or same ratio of EPA & DHA as the ProEFA that everyone here was having

such success with. I have also experienced some behavioural issues with both

boys. Although Mac seems to be getting back to normal, they both have become

very defiant and emotional. Fletcher has also stopped his 2-3 hour afternoon

nap cold turkey and by 5.00pm is bouncing off the walls - makes for a very long

day!!

I purchased my E from a chemist who advised me to start Fletch off on one dose

every second day for a week and then go to once a day. His reason for this was

that Vitamin E is notorious for causing stomach upsets which your son has now

proven!

We are currentlly waiting for our speech pathologist to be replaced so we are

yet to start any therapy with Fletcher since his diagnosis. Are you or did you

have intense therapy with your son? I am told we will probably need 4 or 5

sessions a week along with alot of 'homework' for the next 3 - 5 years. Is your

son in a mainstream school and how is his speech now? How does he cope

socially? Sorry about all the questions but I am in Melbourne where there seems

to be no help (other than speech therapy) or support networks and I am yet to

come across another mother of or child with dyspraxia so I have no other brain

to pick!! I'd love to hear of anything that helped you and your son along.

Thanks again for your reply and if you have a spare moment I'd love to hear any

other info. you may have!

Katrina

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Hi Trina

I live in Australia as well. I have a 6 yr old with verbal

dyspraxia. He was diagnosed at about 3 and 1/2 years of age.

Before the diagnosis he had been going to speech therapy from 17

months of age. As far as I can tell, he only has problems with

speech which also affects his school work in particular maths and

literacy. He can ride a two wheel bike without training wheels, he

plays soccer (he isn't the best player). I had him assessed by an

OT and she didn't find too much to comment upon.

I am having the same problems in finding Vit E gamma. I have put my

son on 200 iu of Vit E(alpha) a day. I tried 400 iu but he kept

complaining of tummy pain. did suggest to try a non soy

based Vit E, but I live in regional Australia and is pretty hard to

find. He seems to tolerate the 200 iu and his speech seemed to

improve within 2-3 days even on a smaller dose than everyone else

here is using. I have a cupboard full of different omega 3s that I

have tried. The best one that works for us is the " Efalex " brand,

the capsules are smaller and almost oval in shape. I encourage him

to swallow them whole. We have had bad experiences with other brands

as he can taste the " fishy " taste even if it is masked with a citrus

flavour. He has been on Efalex for about 2 weeks and I think

is right the combination of Vit E and Omega 3 is probably the key in

unlocking apraxia or dyspraxia. My son takes 1 Efalex and 1Vit E in

the morning with breakfast. Breakfast for him is a peanut paste

sandwich (at his request) and a glass of milk. I can't wait to

increase the dose of Efalex but I have to be cautious and get him

used to the Efalex. I have a friend who uses NATURE'S WAY KIDS

SMART fish burstlet. Her kids don't have dyspraxia and enjoy the

lime flavour.

I think capsules are probably more convenient and tend to store

better. But if omega 3's in juice works, stick with it.

I hope this is helpful. I am fairly new as well, as I joined in

June. I try to read what people have to say everyday and learn as

much as possible.

Loreta

In @groups. com, " trina3103 " <trina3103@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Hello All.

> I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

accross

> this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups, be

> it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

group

> very informative and helpful.

> My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with Verbal

> Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

ProEFA

> liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes in

> 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma although

I

> have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols' . This brand I

am

> using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic as

it

> mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

just

> float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

cup

> once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

about

> 10 to start with).

> My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

another 'newbie'

> are these:

> 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the capsules?

> 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> using?

> 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is this

> the same as Gamma?

> 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

constantly,

> but as there is very little known about all this over here and

there

> is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit of

> reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

any

> information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> much help!

> Katrina

>

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Hi Trina

I live in Australia as well. I have a 6 yr old with verbal

dyspraxia. He was diagnosed at about 3 and 1/2 years of age.

Before the diagnosis he had been going to speech therapy from 17

months of age. As far as I can tell, he only has problems with

speech which also affects his school work in particular maths and

literacy. He can ride a two wheel bike without training wheels, he

plays soccer (he isn't the best player). I had him assessed by an

OT and she didn't find too much to comment upon.

I am having the same problems in finding Vit E gamma. I have put my

son on 200 iu of Vit E(alpha) a day. I tried 400 iu but he kept

complaining of tummy pain. did suggest to try a non soy

based Vit E, but I live in regional Australia and is pretty hard to

find. He seems to tolerate the 200 iu and his speech seemed to

improve within 2-3 days even on a smaller dose than everyone else

here is using. I have a cupboard full of different omega 3s that I

have tried. The best one that works for us is the " Efalex " brand,

the capsules are smaller and almost oval in shape. I encourage him

to swallow them whole. We have had bad experiences with other brands

as he can taste the " fishy " taste even if it is masked with a citrus

flavour. He has been on Efalex for about 2 weeks and I think

is right the combination of Vit E and Omega 3 is probably the key in

unlocking apraxia or dyspraxia. My son takes 1 Efalex and 1Vit E in

the morning with breakfast. Breakfast for him is a peanut paste

sandwich (at his request) and a glass of milk. I can't wait to

increase the dose of Efalex but I have to be cautious and get him

used to the Efalex. I have a friend who uses NATURE'S WAY KIDS

SMART fish burstlet. Her kids don't have dyspraxia and enjoy the

lime flavour.

I think capsules are probably more convenient and tend to store

better. But if omega 3's in juice works, stick with it.

I hope this is helpful. I am fairly new as well, as I joined in

June. I try to read what people have to say everyday and learn as

much as possible.

Loreta

In , " trina3103 " <trina3103@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello All.

> I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

accross

> this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups, be

> it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

group

> very informative and helpful.

> My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with Verbal

> Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

ProEFA

> liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes in

> 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma although

I

> have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols'. This brand I

am

> using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic as

it

> mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

just

> float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

cup

> once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

about

> 10 to start with).

> My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

another 'newbie'

> are these:

> 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the capsules?

> 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> using?

> 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is this

> the same as Gamma?

> 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

constantly,

> but as there is very little known about all this over here and

there

> is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit of

> reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

any

> information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> much help!

> Katrina

>

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Thanks for your reply Loreta, it was great to hear your story. I have also been

usuing Efalex liquid but Fletcher wouldn't have a bar of it - unfortunately he

is too young to swallow capsules so I have only been able to use the liquid. I

actually started using it months ago on my eldest son (Mac, 6 with no problems)

as he started school this year and I noticed he was struggling with his reading

and writing. We (including Mac) saw an amazing improvement - he's now loving

school as he can now see results for all his hard work. When Fletcher was

diagnosed (about 5 weeks ago) I thought I'd put him on it too but he did not

like the taste. I then tried Eye Q but he wouldn't have that either. Then I

came accross this group and discovered N.N. ProEFA and Vit. E. I have now put

both boys on ProEFA and E (for some reason Fletcher tolerates both) but I have

only seen a slight improvement in Fletcher and I am now thinking Mac may be

going backwards with his school work. I will

probably put Mac back on Efalex but keep Fletcher going with the Pro EFA. I

stopped using Efalex as I was under the impression that it did not have the

correct or same ratio of EPA & DHA as the ProEFA that everyone here was having

such success with. I have also experienced some behavioural issues with both

boys. Although Mac seems to be getting back to normal, they both have become

very defiant and emotional. Fletcher has also stopped his 2-3 hour afternoon

nap cold turkey and by 5.00pm is bouncing off the walls - makes for a very long

day!!

I purchased my E from a chemist who advised me to start Fletch off on one dose

every second day for a week and then go to once a day. His reason for this was

that Vitamin E is notorious for causing stomach upsets which your son has now

proven!

We are currentlly waiting for our speech pathologist to be replaced so we are

yet to start any therapy with Fletcher since his diagnosis. Are you or did you

have intense therapy with your son? I am told we will probably need 4 or 5

sessions a week along with alot of 'homework' for the next 3 - 5 years. Is your

son in a mainstream school and how is his speech now? How does he cope

socially? Sorry about all the questions but I am in Melbourne where there seems

to be no help (other than speech therapy) or support networks and I am yet to

come across another mother of or child with dyspraxia so I have no other brain

to pick!! I'd love to hear of anything that helped you and your son along.

Thanks again for your reply and if you have a spare moment I'd love to hear any

other info. you may have!

Katrina

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Hi Trina

I live in Australia as well. I have a 6 yr old with verbal

dyspraxia. He was diagnosed at about 3 and 1/2 years of age.

Before the diagnosis he had been going to speech therapy from 17

months of age. As far as I can tell, he only has problems with

speech which also affects his school work in particular maths and

literacy. He can ride a two wheel bike without training wheels, he

plays soccer (he isn't the best player). I had him assessed by an

OT and she didn't find too much to comment upon.

I am having the same problems in finding Vit E gamma. I have put my

son on 200 iu of Vit E(alpha) a day. I tried 400 iu but he kept

complaining of tummy pain. did suggest to try a non soy

based Vit E, but I live in regional Australia and is pretty hard to

find. He seems to tolerate the 200 iu and his speech seemed to

improve within 2-3 days even on a smaller dose than everyone else

here is using. I have a cupboard full of different omega 3s that I

have tried. The best one that works for us is the " Efalex " brand,

the capsules are smaller and almost oval in shape. I encourage him

to swallow them whole. We have had bad experiences with other brands

as he can taste the " fishy " taste even if it is masked with a citrus

flavour. He has been on Efalex for about 2 weeks and I think

is right the combination of Vit E and Omega 3 is probably the key in

unlocking apraxia or dyspraxia. My son takes 1 Efalex and 1Vit E in

the morning with breakfast. Breakfast for him is a peanut paste

sandwich (at his request) and a glass of milk. I can't wait to

increase the dose of Efalex but I have to be cautious and get him

used to the Efalex. I have a friend who uses NATURE'S WAY KIDS

SMART fish burstlet. Her kids don't have dyspraxia and enjoy the

lime flavour.

I think capsules are probably more convenient and tend to store

better. But if omega 3's in juice works, stick with it.

I hope this is helpful. I am fairly new as well, as I joined in

June. I try to read what people have to say everyday and learn as

much as possible.

Loreta

In @groups. com, " trina3103 " <trina3103@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Hello All.

> I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

accross

> this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups, be

> it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

group

> very informative and helpful.

> My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with Verbal

> Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

ProEFA

> liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes in

> 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma although

I

> have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols' . This brand I

am

> using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic as

it

> mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

just

> float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

cup

> once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

about

> 10 to start with).

> My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

another 'newbie'

> are these:

> 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the capsules?

> 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> using?

> 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is this

> the same as Gamma?

> 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

constantly,

> but as there is very little known about all this over here and

there

> is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit of

> reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

any

> information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> much help!

> Katrina

>

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Hi Katrina,

I often feel alone and isolated in regards to my son's dyspraxia. I

met one lady whose son has verbal dyspraxia. I'm sorry to hear that

Fletcher has given up his nap. It will get better, as he grows

older. I met a lady whose son has verbal dyspraxia. He is 9 or 10.

He was discharged from speech therapy at 9. He now has private

tuition for reading. His mother commented that he struggles with

school work especially literacy subjects. His younger sister

outclasses him in that area. He is a gifted footballer. He was

diagnosed early like our guys. I heard him speak and his speech was

very clear. He does tend to be shy. I met another lady whose son

wasn't diagnosed until 8yrs old, she said was going through a

painful divorce and had 5 other children. He had already been

suspended once from his school. I haven't kept in touch with these

women.

When my son was diagnosed with verbal dyspraxia he started weekly

sessions with speech therapy and he is still going weekly. My

insurance will only pay $400 for speech therapy, the rest is out of

our pockets. One lady told me that she gets some sort of benefit

from Centrelink as a carer for her son's dyspraxia. We attend

private speech therapy. He has been lucky enough to have the same

speech therapist since he was 17 months old. Just this morning his

speech therapist commented on just how far he has come along since

the day she first met him.

He is in a mainstream school and started Grade One this year. I

live in Queensland and the prep year doesn't start until 2007. I

really wanted him to do prep as they were trialling one class this

year. His preschool teacher (who I respect very highly) felt that

my son needed to be a structured environment rather than a prep

where the programme was still play based. His preschool teacher

begged me not to waste this year. So I listened to her advice.

Unfortunately, the first semster was extremely disrupted, on the

school's part. He did not receive the promised help until second

term. Consequently he is behind. To make a long story short he has

a new teacher and he is doing well. Will it be enough for him to

progress to Grade 2, I don't know. I do regret not fighting harder

for him. If at all possible Katrina, have Fletcher start school

later rather than sooner.

I realize the ratios of Omegas is different in Efalex to what

everyone gives but I'm getting good results. When I first joined

the group I tried to find an omega 3 that my son could swallow.

Fish oil, tasted like " dead fish " . So I tried flaxseed oil from

capsules. He tolerated the taste. Within 3 days his speech just

improved. I had friends comment on how much he had improved.

Unfortunately he developed tummy pain. I read that only 10% of

flaxseed oil converts to the various factors. So I stopped. But I

couldn't forget that glorious 2 weeks of clear speech. I trialled

different brands. Then talked about vitamin E. The

capsules were tiny and I knew my son would be able to swallow them.

So I had him on vitamin E for a couple of weeks, yes he was

emotional, but he became more organized, he dressed himself,

prepared his school bag and got his library books ready. Then the

tummy pain came. I stopped. I couldn't forget that great couple of

weeks. I looked for a non soy based vitamin E but failed. So I

tried 200 iu, no tummy pain and greatly improved speech.

At the moment, my little boy boy is complaining that he is losing

his friends at school. He seems to sit by himself at lunch time.

We got to school early one morning. His class mates were playing

soccer, I suggested that he join the game he said very clearly " they

won't let me " . I've tried to explore this with him. I know he can

be boisterous and very physical with his older sister. I asked

him, " are you mean to your sister " , he replied " sometimes " I then

asked " are you mean to your class mates " he replied " No, never,

those are naughty to me, those pinch me, those kick me " . I believe

him. I have no idea how I'm handle this but I know I will have to

speak to his teacher.

The second problem for us, my son has a fair amount of homework

every afternoon. Once he has finished it he is too tired for his

speech homework. I feel as though I'm in a Catch 22. My son needs

to practice his speech in order to learn to read, but he needs to

learn to read.

I would be inclined to continue the Efalex with Mac. I have friends

who give their " normal " kids Efalex or Eye Q and are happy with

them. One thing I have learned on this site each child's

experience of dyspraxia or apraxia is different. So whatever works

for you do that.

The main thing to remember is that you have caught it early enough

to make a huge difference to Fletcher.

I hope this helps

Loreta

> >

> > Hello All.

> > I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

> accross

> > this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups,

be

> > it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

> group

> > very informative and helpful.

> > My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with

Verbal

> > Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> > possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> > diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

> ProEFA

> > liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes

in

> > 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> > alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma

although

> I

> > have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols' . This brand

I

> am

> > using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic

as

> it

> > mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

> just

> > float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

> cup

> > once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> > Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> > although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

> about

> > 10 to start with).

> > My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

> another 'newbie'

> > are these:

> > 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the

capsules?

> > 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> > using?

> > 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is

this

> > the same as Gamma?

> > 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> > 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> > 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> > I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

> constantly,

> > but as there is very little known about all this over here and

> there

> > is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit

of

> > reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

> any

> > information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> > feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> > Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> > much help!

> > Katrina

> >

>

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Hi Katrina,

I often feel alone and isolated in regards to my son's dyspraxia. I

met one lady whose son has verbal dyspraxia. I'm sorry to hear that

Fletcher has given up his nap. It will get better, as he grows

older. I met a lady whose son has verbal dyspraxia. He is 9 or 10.

He was discharged from speech therapy at 9. He now has private

tuition for reading. His mother commented that he struggles with

school work especially literacy subjects. His younger sister

outclasses him in that area. He is a gifted footballer. He was

diagnosed early like our guys. I heard him speak and his speech was

very clear. He does tend to be shy. I met another lady whose son

wasn't diagnosed until 8yrs old, she said was going through a

painful divorce and had 5 other children. He had already been

suspended once from his school. I haven't kept in touch with these

women.

When my son was diagnosed with verbal dyspraxia he started weekly

sessions with speech therapy and he is still going weekly. My

insurance will only pay $400 for speech therapy, the rest is out of

our pockets. One lady told me that she gets some sort of benefit

from Centrelink as a carer for her son's dyspraxia. We attend

private speech therapy. He has been lucky enough to have the same

speech therapist since he was 17 months old. Just this morning his

speech therapist commented on just how far he has come along since

the day she first met him.

He is in a mainstream school and started Grade One this year. I

live in Queensland and the prep year doesn't start until 2007. I

really wanted him to do prep as they were trialling one class this

year. His preschool teacher (who I respect very highly) felt that

my son needed to be a structured environment rather than a prep

where the programme was still play based. His preschool teacher

begged me not to waste this year. So I listened to her advice.

Unfortunately, the first semster was extremely disrupted, on the

school's part. He did not receive the promised help until second

term. Consequently he is behind. To make a long story short he has

a new teacher and he is doing well. Will it be enough for him to

progress to Grade 2, I don't know. I do regret not fighting harder

for him. If at all possible Katrina, have Fletcher start school

later rather than sooner.

I realize the ratios of Omegas is different in Efalex to what

everyone gives but I'm getting good results. When I first joined

the group I tried to find an omega 3 that my son could swallow.

Fish oil, tasted like " dead fish " . So I tried flaxseed oil from

capsules. He tolerated the taste. Within 3 days his speech just

improved. I had friends comment on how much he had improved.

Unfortunately he developed tummy pain. I read that only 10% of

flaxseed oil converts to the various factors. So I stopped. But I

couldn't forget that glorious 2 weeks of clear speech. I trialled

different brands. Then talked about vitamin E. The

capsules were tiny and I knew my son would be able to swallow them.

So I had him on vitamin E for a couple of weeks, yes he was

emotional, but he became more organized, he dressed himself,

prepared his school bag and got his library books ready. Then the

tummy pain came. I stopped. I couldn't forget that great couple of

weeks. I looked for a non soy based vitamin E but failed. So I

tried 200 iu, no tummy pain and greatly improved speech.

At the moment, my little boy boy is complaining that he is losing

his friends at school. He seems to sit by himself at lunch time.

We got to school early one morning. His class mates were playing

soccer, I suggested that he join the game he said very clearly " they

won't let me " . I've tried to explore this with him. I know he can

be boisterous and very physical with his older sister. I asked

him, " are you mean to your sister " , he replied " sometimes " I then

asked " are you mean to your class mates " he replied " No, never,

those are naughty to me, those pinch me, those kick me " . I believe

him. I have no idea how I'm handle this but I know I will have to

speak to his teacher.

The second problem for us, my son has a fair amount of homework

every afternoon. Once he has finished it he is too tired for his

speech homework. I feel as though I'm in a Catch 22. My son needs

to practice his speech in order to learn to read, but he needs to

learn to read.

I would be inclined to continue the Efalex with Mac. I have friends

who give their " normal " kids Efalex or Eye Q and are happy with

them. One thing I have learned on this site each child's

experience of dyspraxia or apraxia is different. So whatever works

for you do that.

The main thing to remember is that you have caught it early enough

to make a huge difference to Fletcher.

I hope this helps

Loreta

> >

> > Hello All.

> > I am in Australia and have been fortunate enough to stummble

> accross

> > this wonderfull group - I am unable to find any support groups,

be

> > it on line or in person within Australia so I have found this

> group

> > very informative and helpful.

> > My almost 3 yo son (Fletcher) has just been diagnosed with

Verbal

> > Apraxia (we call it Dyspraxia here but it is the same thing!)and

> > possibly motor too although we have not been properly tested or

> > diagnosed with the motor just yet. I have started him on the

> ProEFA

> > liquid (half teaspoon per day) and 500iu of E (our E only comes

in

> > 200iu, 500iu and 1000iu over here). The vitamin E is natural (d-

> > alpha tocopherol 335mg) but I cannot find one with Gamma

although

> I

> > have come accross one that has 'mixed tocopherols' . This brand

I

> am

> > using is also water soluble which I have found to be fantastic

as

> it

> > mixes in well with some cordial, unlike the oil which tends to

> just

> > float on top of the drink and then get left on the bottom of the

> cup

> > once the drink has been drunk! I have found since starting, that

> > Fletcher seems to be babbling alot more rather than grunting

> > although we are still not getting any clear words (he only has

> about

> > 10 to start with).

> > My questions for anyone who is willing to help out

> another 'newbie'

> > are these:

> > 1. Is the ProEFA (N.N) liquid OK or should I be using the

capsules?

> > 2. Does it matter that there seems to be no Gamma in the E I am

> > using?

> > 3. Should I switch to the E with the mixed tocopherols and is

this

> > the same as Gamma?

> > 4. Is water soluble E OK to use?

> > 5. Am I giving the correct dosages of both the EFA and E?

> > 6. Why is Nordic Naturals used and not, say, Eye Q?

> > I know these are all questions that are asked of you all

> constantly,

> > but as there is very little known about all this over here and

> there

> > is no-one else to ask here, I guess I'm just looking for a bit

of

> > reassurance that I am doing the right thing. I would appreciate

> any

> > information, tips or ideas that anyone may have for me as I am

> > feeling a bit 'lost' with the whole situation!

> > Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and providing so

> > much help!

> > Katrina

> >

>

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