WIPI, the TAC and Speech in noise tests

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In a message dated 5/23/2006 5:16:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chester2001@... writes:

This is the neophyte listen up member again, new to everything about this.

More questions: ... I swear someday I'll be able to post something that

helps someone else!

Trish

I can't answer about the tests, all I can do is look them up the same as you

have already done. I don't believe Ian had those specific tests, or if the

ones he did have are comparable. So I will defer to others to speak up on that.

But I answered your post so I could say that you are already helping this

list because you are asking questions that many people here don't know the

answers to. We have a whole new crop of members recently and they are also

learning as they go. So, you're being the vocal newbie who's asking a ton of

questions that I'm sure others have thought of or may not realize they could

ask.

Thanks -- 'cause I'm learning too.

-- Jill

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Hi,

This is the neophyte listen up member again, new to everything about this. More

questions:

I just found out that these (WIPI, the TAC and Speech in Noise) are the tests

they will administer to Bobby tomorrow. I can find lots of articles that

include these tests, but I can't find anything that describes them specifically.

Anyone know anything about these?

The tests that they give at e (whom I am beginning to really trust) as part

of their CEE are the BKB-SIN and the HINT. I have information about these and

they look pretty extensive. I think they are all pretty inclusive. Anyone know

the difference of these tests? (FYI, Bobby is 5 yrs old, to be six in July.

That might mean something because I see one of them is pictures...)

I swear someday I'll be able to post something that helps someone else!

Trish

[Guest guest]

Trish,

Sorry, I don't know much about these tests either, but don't worry about

the questions you are asking. When we all started on the journey with a child

who has a hearing loss, we were in the same place as you. Some had more info,

some had none, but over time we learn...and you will too. With all that you are

going through for Bobby, you will be a great source of information in the

future. But for now, concentrate on getting what he needs.

And let us know how the testing goes!

Debbie

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I just wrapped up my class on Auditory Assessment and Diagnostic stuff so I

am pulling these out of my medical txt books for you. I hope this is helpful

WIPI - word intelligibility by picture Identification - this is looking at

articulation - how does the child say the word are they intelligible

(understandable).

TAC - Test of Auditory Comprehension - This test is going to asses a

child's language. Rather than the WIPI which is looking at articulation.

Speech in Noise - there is usually back ground noise and yeah, you guessed

it they just want to know how well the child hears in a noisy environment.

BKB-SIN - is another Speech in noise test.

HINT (Hearing In Noise Test).

The differences in these tests are : The WIPI is focusing on how he says

things. The TAC is interested in if he is understanding what he is hearing

(this may vary on how well he can hear what is being said).

The other tests are just the standard - lets see how he hears in noisy

environments. All of these tests are standardized meaning once they are

scored they get a percentage back and that give them an idea of where he

falls percentile wise.

I hope this has helped. I did not get really in depth about the tests just

tried to give you a brief overview.

It sounds like they are doing a thorough job.

Best of luck to you.

Angie in KS

mom to Allie 4 years Bilateral N24

>

> Hi,

>

> This is the neophyte listen up member again, new to everything about

> this. More questions:

>

> I just found out that these (WIPI, the TAC and Speech in Noise) are the

> tests they will administer to Bobby tomorrow. I can find lots of articles

> that include these tests, but I can't find anything that describes them

> specifically. Anyone know anything about these?

>

> The tests that they give at e (whom I am beginning to really trust)

> as part of their CEE are the BKB-SIN and the HINT. I have information about

> these and they look pretty extensive. I think they are all pretty

> inclusive. Anyone know the difference of these tests? (FYI, Bobby is 5 yrs

> old, to be six in July. That might mean something because I see one of them

> is pictures...)

>

> I swear someday I'll be able to post something that helps someone else!

>

> Trish

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, Angie, this is exactly what I needed..just a simple answer to see the

differences. I trust e so much and I believe that their evaluation is so

extensive that I got really worried when I saw that the tests Soundbridge want

to do are a little different than what e would have done. I have one shot

at this, and I want to make sure we get it right. But to my pleasant surprise,

it looks like Soundbridge is going to be even more thourough today when they

test him. I will definitely post the results because this will be quite

interesting. Now why it took for ME, once again, to suggest that we do this

kind of testing, when we had an educational audiologist sitting at the last IEP

meeting and she never suggested it, I'll never know, but I guess this is how it

is going to work from now on. Man, you're not kidding when you say that parents

need to educate, educate and educate themselves more and more and then over

again. It seems we all need out doctorates in audiology just to raise a kid who

can't hear well.

Trish

Re: WIPI, the TAC and Speech in noise tests

I just wrapped up my class on Auditory Assessment and Diagnostic stuff so I

am pulling these out of my medical txt books for you. I hope this is helpful

WIPI - word intelligibility by picture Identification - this is looking at

articulation - how does the child say the word are they intelligible

(understandable).

TAC - Test of Auditory Comprehension - This test is going to asses a

child's language. Rather than the WIPI which is looking at articulation.

Speech in Noise - there is usually back ground noise and yeah, you guessed

it they just want to know how well the child hears in a noisy environment.

BKB-SIN - is another Speech in noise test.

HINT (Hearing In Noise Test).

The differences in these tests are : The WIPI is focusing on how he says

things. The TAC is interested in if he is understanding what he is hearing

(this may vary on how well he can hear what is being said).

The other tests are just the standard - lets see how he hears in noisy

environments. All of these tests are standardized meaning once they are

scored they get a percentage back and that give them an idea of where he

falls percentile wise.

I hope this has helped. I did not get really in depth about the tests just

tried to give you a brief overview.

It sounds like they are doing a thorough job.

Best of luck to you.

Angie in KS

mom to Allie 4 years Bilateral N24

[Guest guest]

I'll just throw in a little here. The WIPI is what is known as a closed set

test. He has a card with 6 pictures on it, and points to the picture that

shows the word he hears. I don't think the other tests are closed set. Closed

set is easier because the child has a limited choice of what it was he heard.

With an open set, you hear something and have to figure it out with nothing to

choose from.

Personally, I am not crazy about the test with the man's voice. Men's voices

are much easier for most hearing impaired kids to understand and so it gives a

better picture than it might with a woman's voice. But I'm not criticizing

Soundbridge or es choice of test, just commenting on the tests themselves.

WIPI, the TAC and Speech in noise tests

>

>Hi,

>

>This is the neophyte listen up member again, new to everything about this.

More questions:

>

>I just found out that these (WIPI, the TAC and Speech in Noise) are the tests

they will administer to Bobby tomorrow. I can find lots of articles that

include these tests, but I can't find anything that describes them specifically.

Anyone know anything about these?

>

>The tests that they give at e (whom I am beginning to really trust) as

part of their CEE are the BKB-SIN and the HINT. I have information about these

and they look pretty extensive. I think they are all pretty inclusive. Anyone

know the difference of these tests? (FYI, Bobby is 5 yrs old, to be six in

July. That might mean something because I see one of them is pictures...)

>

>I swear someday I'll be able to post something that helps someone else!

>

>Trish

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very interesting, , I read somewhere the same thing about the man's voice.

Bobby has a high frequency loss in one ear, and a woman's voice will be harder

for him to hear. I didn't want to seem completly obsessed, but having

youconfirm it makes me know it is important to note.

Again, thanks once more. Interesting about WIPI. I'll let you know how it

goes.

Trish

Re: WIPI, the TAC and Speech in noise tests

I'll just throw in a little here. The WIPI is what is known as a closed set

test. He has a card with 6 pictures on it, and points to the picture that

shows the word he hears. I don't think the other tests are closed set. Closed

set is easier because the child has a limited choice of what it was he heard.

With an open set, you hear something and have to figure it out with nothing to

choose from.

Personally, I am not crazy about the test with the man's voice. Men's voices

are much easier for most hearing impaired kids to understand and so it gives a

better picture than it might with a woman's voice. But I'm not criticizing

Soundbridge or es choice of test, just commenting on the tests themselves.