Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I love the show American Idol this season. The contestant recently eliminated, Elliott Yamin, has the most wonderful voice. He has a moderate - severe hearing loss in his right ear. The fact that he sings like he does is astounding. I don't know much else about him except that I liked him and his voice and when I learned he had a hearing loss and accomplished what he did on the stage - I liked him even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I heard the same thing today except it said it was a " 90% " loss. This is the first time I've followed American Idol, and last night they showed the contestants back in their hometowns, and he was so appreciative and teary eyed, that really impressed me. They said he was the best contestant as far as singing on key. Which is even more amazing given the hearing loss. American Idol > >I love the show American Idol this season. The contestant recently >eliminated, Elliott Yamin, has the most wonderful voice. He has a >moderate - severe hearing loss in his right ear. The fact that he >sings like he does is astounding. I don't know much else about him >except that I liked him and his voice and when I learned he had a >hearing loss and accomplished what he did on the stage - I liked him >even better. > > > > > > > > >All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 We are so goofy, we are going to the concert. Hayley will be at WPSD Summer Camp, so I won't feel bad about us going off - she does not " get " music therefore she doens't like it. I heard that about th e90% loss, but I think they say that for lay people - not us professionals > I heard the same thing today except it said it was a " 90% " loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 There is no difference between the typical hearing population and the HOH population with regard to musical talent. Therefore, Eliot's ability to sing on key is not related to his hearing abilities. He's just got the gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 You know, though, singing and certain instruments (like strings, brass and woodwinds) ARE very dependent on listening to the tone to be sure it's on key, etc. I have a degree in music - I'm an organist - and I think because I'm so keyboard-oriented had difficulty when I had to learn those families of instruments... So sure, talent is one thing but to some degree you do need to hear to stay in tune... Barbara jbkdarby wrote: > There is no difference between the typical hearing population and the > HOH population with regard to musical talent. Therefore, Eliot's > ability to sing on key is not related to his hearing abilities. He's > just got the gift. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Really? I would think someone with hearing loss would be less likely to hear music correctly, play it correctly, or sing it correctly. Poor assumption, I guess. My HOH daughter loves to sing but sounds terrible . . .. very monotone (sorry, but true) . . . I guess she just takes after me in that department, and that's it. LOL Robin > > There is no difference between the typical hearing population and the > HOH population with regard to musical talent. Therefore, Eliot's > ability to sing on key is not related to his hearing abilities. He's > just got the gift. > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post > is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to > copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I think the musical thing is quite varied with people with hearing loss. My husband and one of my kids have enough musical talent to go on American Idol. My other daughter and I are good fill in altos in a group, we can hear if something isn't right but can't always get it right either. Maggie tried playing the baritone horn in 5th grade. We picked that because she wanted to play the Tuba but wasn't big enough. She could hear the difference between whole steps but not half steps. She could tell a C from a D, but couldn't tell a Bflat from a B. SSo she never did make it to the Tuba. But she loves to sing and listen to music. She is often off key but if she practices a song can get it right but its work for her. She is learning to play the guitar and how to use an eelectronic tuner so she can tune it herself. She's pretty motivated so who knows where she will go with it. We have a deaf music teacher in Macon and also a soloist at our church who is unilaterally deaf. Another HOH child here plays violin which you have to be able to hear tones very well to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Music and HOH kids is a topic that keeps popping up around me. I've had several conversations recently with therapists (AVTs and SLPs) where they have commented that the more a HOH child is exposed to music and the younger the child is when first introduced to music, the better they do generally (listening and playing instruments) and their voice quality is better (one SLP pointed out that she rarely has to work on breath control with a HOH kid who sings for fun, since they have already developed that skill naturally). So, while this doesn't necessarily mean that early exposure to music is going to make your HOH kid the next winner on Idol, it can bring about some profound good things to their development. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 My two younger kids did Yamaha piano. The Japanese (Yamaha, Suzuki etc) start musical training very early and they specifically train the kids to hear and sing notes. So the child knows the name of the note (do re mi name) and how the note is supposed to sound. They also learn the written note but they learn that later. People with perfect pitch have a connection to the name of the note and how the note sounds in their brains. If they hear a note, t hey can tell you which note it is. If you show them a note on a staff, they can produce that note. The Japanese have a very high percentage of people with perfect pitch. It could be genetic but it could also be the early training. So maybe if kids get musical " early intervention " it can be just as helpful as early intervention for language or other things. Maggie didn't get that much out of Yamaha, but I think it would have been much better for her if we had the FM then. > >Music and HOH kids is a topic that keeps popping up around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hi Robin, loves music. Since she was old enough she was singing songs. In the early days (before aids) got all of the tunes right, it was the words that were all wrong. Now her favorite thing to do is make up little songs. They are quite cute and melodic. She can definately sing like mommy (grin) but we need to work on the lyrics a lot more than some. Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing Robin Tomlinson thetomlinsons@...> wrote: Really? I would think someone with hearing loss would be less likely to hear music correctly, play it correctly, or sing it correctly. Poor assumption, I guess. My HOH daughter loves to sing but sounds terrible . . .. very monotone (sorry, but true) . . . I guess she just takes after me in that department, and that's it. LOL Robin Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw --------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Sydney makes up songs a lot, too! She has me type them up on the computer as she makes them up. I love it. Her last ditty went something like this . .. . I love my Daddy He is my man He plays with me He shows me cool stuff He takes me places He calls me Poopopotamus But sometimes he just sits and watches TVeeeeeeeee. . . Cracked me up! Robin > > Hi Robin, > loves music. Since she was old enough she was singing songs. > In the early days (before aids) got all of the tunes right, it was > the words that were all wrong. Now her favorite thing to do is make up > little songs. They are quite cute and melodic. She can definately sing > like mommy (grin) but we need to work on the lyrics a lot more than some. > > Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing > > Robin Tomlinson thetomlinsons@...> wrote: > Really? I would think someone with hearing loss would be less likely to > hear music correctly, play it correctly, or sing it correctly. Poor > assumption, I guess. My HOH daughter loves to sing but sounds terrible . > . > . very monotone (sorry, but true) . . . I guess she just takes after me > in > that department, and that's it. LOL > > Robin > > > > > Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that > never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with > Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 My son sings with his school's a cappella group. This year they competed with other schools nationally and came in 10th. My son's solo was one of the 3 songs they sang at each contest. His HL is in the low frequencies, so he would get his starting note two octaves higher than he sings (he'e a baritone). The teacher said that he was fine, and the song worked as long as everyone else stayed on key. What was more difficult than matching tones, was keeping time. The group arranged themselves so that he could read their lips and also had some choreography which helped him keep his place. At one point, the teacher and I were wondering how much he heard. I asked him if he could hear singing. He replied, with the scorn of a teenager, that of course he could hear singing, but not at the same time that he was singing. He added, " but no one can do that " . He was surprised to find out that most poeple who sing in a group keep on key by hearing and matching tones with the other singers. I guess the way to teach him is to let him find his own way. Re: Re: American Idol Really? I would think someone with hearing loss would be less likely to hear music correctly, play it correctly, or sing it correctly. Poor assumption, I guess. My HOH daughter loves to sing but sounds terrible .. . .. very monotone (sorry, but true) . . . I guess she just takes after me in that department, and that's it. LOL Robin > > There is no difference between the typical hearing population and the > HOH population with regard to musical talent. Therefore, Eliot's > ability to sing on key is not related to his hearing abilities. He's > just got the gift. > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post > is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to > copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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