Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Our Ian has a progressive loss. We don't know why, no one can predict it's progress or say if it will ever stop. We've seen some of the best doctors on the east coast and they don't agree with each other. We have dueling diagnoses. When we go to the audiologist, Ian is just fine. He takes it all in stride. It's just another hearing screening for him. Which is exactly how we want it to be for him. But for me, it's always a bit stressful. Ian's loss is usually slow and predictable, but occasionally he has a sudden drop of some kind. And I hate those. Truthfully, I want it to either stop or just get where it's going NOW. I don't like the not knowing. I'm a planner, a list maker. So this kind of loss pushes my control-freak buttons. Honestly, after a while it is actually easier to deal with. I used to have panic attacks on the way to the audiologist but now I just get a bit nervous. I need to learn from my son to be more laid back. We've taught him to not worry over what he can't control. Now I need to learn to take my own advice. Easier said than done when it comes to your kids. And I agree, it sucks. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 In a message dated 5/15/2006 2:42:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, em2_mom@... writes: Now I even find humor in the things Emmett thinks he heard. He always tells us when he hears something that sounds off, and it usually is! This is actually a game in our house. It started because my husband mutters. He always has and half the time I can't hear what he's said so I would tell him what I heard, which was never right. He also does what we call " zip code changes " in the middle of conversations -- his mind wanders down a different track from the rest of us while we're talking. And then he'll rejoin the conversation from the middle of his private musings, and I'm clueless as to which zip code his wanderings took him off to. Then with Ian's hearing loss, he tell us what he thought he heard, and then correcting it to what we must have said. Now, it's a game to mis-hear things, and we create a nonsense sentence. We take things we barely heard and make them into something else just so we can be silly. It's actually quite funny and it had a purpose for a while -- it increased Ian's vocabulary by making him think of rhyming words to create his silly sentences. -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Oh Sara - you've had such an awful year! Have your kids had CT scans? Why does your audiologist think it's progressive? As others have suggested, you might consider genetic testing to see if they can figure out what's up here. (genetic testing doesn't tell the whole story - for many it does but for us it didn't, just so you know). And I'm with you - a year between tests doesn't necessary show that a loss isn't progressive. I dreaded my kids losing more hearing maybe more than finding out they couldn't hear - I understand how you feel. Although in a strange way, when Tom *did* lose more hearing, it almost became easier because we knew we'd pursue an implant at that point. I know that sounds weird... Hang in - we're here for you! Barbara saraandchadd wrote: > Ok - so I think this was harder to hear than to hear that both of my > kids are HOH!!! But my audi spoke to someone else who is currently > displaced to Canada and he is very concerned that their loss is > progressive. Damn it. Does it ever end? So the audi is going on > the assumption now that their loss is progressive although I'm sure > we won't know for years to come. Hannah's last test did show her > loss was stable but since it was only a year between testing this > guy doesn't think it proves anything to us. Also - since their > hearing was/or about normal at birth and now they are more moderate > they think it is a safe assumption to make. > > That was so much harder to hear than to hear that both of them were > hearing impaired! > > So my question - yes I have a question this time - I need info on > this!!! If they are progressive what is the likely hood that they > will progress to deaf? How long? What now? > > Oh - and the ball is rolling on the info for our son - they > recommend him going to the local HOH school which I'm looking > forward to - for my daughter they seemed very much against any other > intervention but its a relief to know that my son will get > everything he will possibly need at an earl age rather than having > to fix the problems that no early intervention caused like in my > daughter's case! > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Barbara Mellert Barbara.T.Mellert@...> wrote: " Have your kids had CT scans? " ----no - they have not had CT scans. That will be our next step I suppose - we tried with hannah - wouldn't do it - try to get it through Childrens and things never fell into place - he was particularly looking for a disorder that causes HL when someone is hit in the head - but that isn't an issue now I don't think. " Why does your audiologist think it's progressive? " -----for the simple fact that they were both " normal " at birth (well Hannah passed her newborn screen which is all we have to go by and Jake was boarderline at his last ABR in July testing at 25 dB) - and because it has only been a year between Hannah's tests - the doc thinks there is a possibility that it will still decrease just in more time. " As others have suggested, you might consider genetic testing to see if they can figure out what's up here. (genetic testing doesn't tell the whole story - for many it does but for us it didn't, just so you know). " ------We're trying. They are looking for a particular lady who actually specializes in hearing loss/genetic links. Currently her office is not up and running its children's part of their testing - although when they return to New Orleans this summer it might. So we are going ahead and getting the aids because the further testing might take awhile. " I dreaded my kids losing more hearing maybe more than finding out they couldn't hear - I understand how you feel. Although in a strange way, when Tom *did* lose more hearing, it almost became easier because we knew we'd pursue an implant at that point. I know that sounds weird... " --------this sucks to put it bluntely. Hang in - we're here for you! Barbara saraandchadd wrote: > Ok - so I think this was harder to hear than to hear that both of my > kids are HOH!!! But my audi spoke to someone else who is currently > displaced to Canada and he is very concerned that their loss is > progressive. Damn it. Does it ever end? So the audi is going on > the assumption now that their loss is progressive although I'm sure > we won't know for years to come. Hannah's last test did show her > loss was stable but since it was only a year between testing this > guy doesn't think it proves anything to us. Also - since their > hearing was/or about normal at birth and now they are more moderate > they think it is a safe assumption to make. > > That was so much harder to hear than to hear that both of them were > hearing impaired! > > So my question - yes I have a question this time - I need info on > this!!! If they are progressive what is the likely hood that they > will progress to deaf? How long? What now? > > Oh - and the ball is rolling on the info for our son - they > recommend him going to the local HOH school which I'm looking > forward to - for my daughter they seemed very much against any other > intervention but its a relief to know that my son will get > everything he will possibly need at an earl age rather than having > to fix the problems that no early intervention caused like in my > daughter's case! > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I used to dread taking Ben for his hearing test for just this reason; I was terrified they would tell me he'd lost more hearing. But it honestly doesn't bother me AT ALL anymore: he's a great kid, he does fabulously well with what he has, and if he loses more hearing, there are things we can do. But I know just how you feel... Stefanie Mom to Ben, 7, severe to profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss on 5/15/06 12:37 PM, Barbara Mellert at Barbara.T.Mellert@... wrote: > Oh Sara - you've had such an awful year! Have your kids had CT scans? > Why does your audiologist think it's progressive? As others have > suggested, you might consider genetic testing to see if they can figure > out what's up here. (genetic testing doesn't tell the whole story - for > many it does but for us it didn't, just so you know). And I'm with you > - a year between tests doesn't necessary show that a loss isn't > progressive. > > I dreaded my kids losing more hearing maybe more than finding out they > couldn't hear - I understand how you feel. Although in a strange way, > when Tom *did* lose more hearing, it almost became easier because we > knew we'd pursue an implant at that point. I know that sounds weird... > > Hang in - we're here for you! > > Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Sara, With a progressive loss, you really don't have a timetable for when or how the hearing will change. There are plenty of people who go for years with a diagnosis of progressive hearing loss and have stable test after stable test. Some people lose their hearing gradually, some lose it quickly, some even overnight. Some don't lose it at all. Hadley's hearing loss is due to Conniving 26. When she was diagnosed 4 years ago, the research at the time showed that kids with the Cx26 diagnosis had stable hearing. However, the Cannikins were only discovered in the late 90s and the longitudinal studies were only of a 3-5 year period. Since then, many Cx26 kids in those studies have shown a progressive hearing loss. So, we went from being happy that Hadley was diagnosed with " only " a severe loss that would be stable to feeling out of control once again. However, having this change in the diagnosis doesn't change our life. Hadley goes in every 3-4 months for a hearing eval. I don't just compare audiograms to the most recent ones, but I chart them out to see how her hearing fluctuates from test to test. I note where her behavior may be more responsible for a certain result than her hearing. I stare at word recognition tests. If there's a change, good or bad, we talk about it and make the necessary changes to her program. Most of all, I disregard the tests and just see how my daughter enjoys and lives her life from day to day. Good technology and good intervention is what I choose to focus on. That's the stuff that will really affect what might happen if and when Hadley's hearing worsens. One thing to point out, the newborn screening test actually screens from 35dB up. A child can be born with a 30dB loss and still pass the screen. Additionally, a change of 5-10dB between audiograms in young kids isn't entirely significant, since so much depends on their behavior. Most pediatric audiologists will modify their notes to account for whether the child was paying attention and cooperating or not. Since kids tend to cooperate more with the word discrimination tests than the boring pure tones test, some will focus on those results a bit more heavily. God luck sorting everything out, Kerry another blow - progressive? Ok - so I think this was harder to hear than to hear that both of my kids are HOH!!! But my audi spoke to someone else who is currently displaced to Canada and he is very concerned that their loss is progressive. Damn it. Does it ever end? So the audi is going on the assumption now that their loss is progressive although I'm sure we won't know for years to come. Hannah's last test did show her loss was stable but since it was only a year between testing this guy doesn't think it proves anything to us. Also - since their hearing was/or about normal at birth and now they are more moderate they think it is a safe assumption to make. That was so much harder to hear than to hear that both of them were hearing impaired! So my question - yes I have a question this time - I need info on this!!! If they are progressive what is the likely hood that they will progress to deaf? How long? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 *Waving* Another parent who stressed with each hearing test. The only thing that finally got me over this is when my DH pointed out that I already knew the " worse case " so I played devil's advocate. I ran the scenario in my mind, decided I could deal with it (my son had NO problem with the issue - " Mom, if it happens, *shrug*, I'll figure it out. " )and gave myself a talk. FIRST, though, I had to grieve. I still cry sometimes but much less frequently and my son just keeps doin' fine. LESSON: It's MUCH harder to be the parent than the kid. > > I used to dread taking Ben for his hearing test for just this reason; I was > terrified they would tell me he'd lost more hearing. But it honestly doesn't > bother me AT ALL anymore: he's a great kid, he does fabulously well with > what he has, and if he loses more hearing, there are things we can do. > > But I know just how you feel... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 saraandchadd saraandchadd@...> wrote: < > Hi, Sara. The progressive nature of Emmett's loss has been the hardest thing for me to deal with. There have been no answers for us, and we've searched quite thoroughly for them. We don't know if he'll continue to lose hearing or if it will just stop and then one day the loss will start again. I find myself holding my breath as each hearing test (every 4 months) approaches. These last two tests were good in that there wasn't much of a drop in most frequencies. But not being able to control this for him, make it stop, that just eats me up. I've worked a lot on it, but it's taking some time. We discovered Emmett's left ear loss (which had been typical) about 8 months after we discovered his right ear's profound loss. It's been a slow decline (5 db each test) and it's been torturous. He doesn't mind ... he's only 4, but he does notice. He wears an aid on the left ear now. I feel like I'm watching him standing in traffic and I can't get to him to push him out of the way. But I know we're doing what we can do. We can't stop this. And we can't control it. But I know he's a good candidate for an implant in his left ear, he's got great speech/language, and he's a determined person. He's going to be OK. I hope this helps in some small way. I know it's painful. Johanna --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 nell92662 nell92662@...> wrote: < > This is so very true. When I realized this was my issue, I started to have a better time dealing with it. There are still tears but, as you said, not as often. Now I even find humor in the things Emmett thinks he heard. He always tells us when he hears something that sounds off, and it usually is! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Sam came in one day and told me " Dad wants to shock vap? " and looked very puzzled. I finally realized he wanted the shop vac! That still makes me laugh. Aren't I bad?! And Jill - CAMPING in the rain sounds like h*ll on earth to me! Give me a Day's Inn any ole day! Barbara JillcWood@... wrote: > > In a message dated 5/15/2006 2:42:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > em2_mom@... writes: > > Now I even find humor in the things Emmett thinks he heard. He always tells > us when he hears something that sounds off, and it usually is! > > > > > > > > This is actually a game in our house. It started because my husband mutters. > He always has and half the time I can't hear what he's said so I would tell > him what I heard, which was never right. He also does what we call " zip code > changes " in the middle of conversations -- his mind wanders down a different > track from the rest of us while we're talking. And then he'll rejoin the > conversation from the middle of his private musings, and I'm clueless as to which > zip code his wanderings took him off to. > > Then with Ian's hearing loss, he tell us what he thought he heard, and then > correcting it to what we must have said. > > Now, it's a game to mis-hear things, and we create a nonsense sentence. We > take things we barely heard and make them into something else just so we can > be silly. It's actually quite funny and it had a purpose for a while -- it > increased Ian's vocabulary by making him think of rhyming words to create his > silly sentences. > > -- Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think the other parents have covered most of your questions. The only thing I would like to add is in regards to the CT scan. When my son's hearing dropped from moderate to profound in one ear his ENT recommended a CT. He was only 2 at the time so was sedated and slept through the entire procedure (about 5 minutes). It turned out that he has enlarged vestibular aqueduct syndrome (EVAS). I've learned a lot about this syndrome from another very helpful yahoo group at LVAS . Anyone with a recent diagnosis of EVA or who is concerned about it may want to consider looking into this list as well. Best wishes, Mom to (3 1/2, mod-prof loss, EVA, Pendred Syndrome) > > Ok - so I think this was harder to hear than to hear that both of my > kids are HOH!!! But my audi spoke to someone else who is currently > displaced to Canada and he is very concerned that their loss is > progressive. Damn it. Does it ever end? So the audi is going on > the assumption now that their loss is progressive although I'm sure > we won't know for years to come. Hannah's last test did show her > loss was stable but since it was only a year between testing this > guy doesn't think it proves anything to us. Also - since their > hearing was/or about normal at birth and now they are more moderate > they think it is a safe assumption to make. > > That was so much harder to hear than to hear that both of them were > hearing impaired! > > So my question - yes I have a question this time - I need info on > this!!! If they are progressive what is the likely hood that they > will progress to deaf? How long? What now? > > Oh - and the ball is rolling on the info for our son - they > recommend him going to the local HOH school which I'm looking > forward to - for my daughter they seemed very much against any other > intervention but its a relief to know that my son will get > everything he will possibly need at an earl age rather than having > to fix the problems that no early intervention caused like in my > daughter's case! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I concur! LVAS covers LVAS exclusively. It's great! Robin > > I think the other parents have covered most of your questions. The > only thing I would like to add is in regards to the CT scan. When > my son's hearing dropped from moderate to profound in one ear his > ENT recommended a CT. He was only 2 at the time so was sedated and > slept through the entire procedure (about 5 minutes). It turned out > that he has enlarged vestibular aqueduct syndrome (EVAS). I've > learned a lot about this syndrome from another very helpful yahoo > group at LVAS . Anyone with a recent diagnosis of > EVA or who is concerned about it may want to consider looking into > this list as well. > > Best wishes, > > Mom to (3 1/2, mod-prof loss, EVA, Pendred Syndrome) > > > > > > Ok - so I think this was harder to hear than to hear that both of > my > > kids are HOH!!! But my audi spoke to someone else who is > currently > > displaced to Canada and he is very concerned that their loss is > > progressive. Damn it. Does it ever end? So the audi is going on > > the assumption now that their loss is progressive although I'm > sure > > we won't know for years to come. Hannah's last test did show her > > loss was stable but since it was only a year between testing this > > guy doesn't think it proves anything to us. Also - since their > > hearing was/or about normal at birth and now they are more > moderate > > they think it is a safe assumption to make. > > > > That was so much harder to hear than to hear that both of them > were > > hearing impaired! > > > > So my question - yes I have a question this time - I need info on > > this!!! If they are progressive what is the likely hood that they > > will progress to deaf? How long? What now? > > > > Oh - and the ball is rolling on the info for our son - they > > recommend him going to the local HOH school which I'm looking > > forward to - for my daughter they seemed very much against any > other > > intervention but its a relief to know that my son will get > > everything he will possibly need at an earl age rather than having > > to fix the problems that no early intervention caused like in my > > daughter's case! > > > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post > is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to > copyright restrictions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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