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My son (2 1/2 yrs, dx with very mild PDD - but our SLP and myself

think apraxia instead or also) does this! He doesn't sing, but he

certainly talks. Sometimes he just goes on and on, especially if he is

looking through a book with something that he is really interested in

like numbers. I feel like he is going to burst sometimes! This is

actually something that is fairly recent and I'm hoping that it is a

good sign and that some words will come out soon. He is completely non-

verbal except for babbling words like mama and some letter sounds.

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My son doesn't drop his jaw consistently. His SLP says it is part of the

apraxia - controlling his jaw. His short a and o sounds especially are

impacted because that requires a dropped jaw. He does move and open his

lips, but his teeth are closed a lot when he speaks which only adds to his

unintelligibility.

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At 02:09 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote:

>My daughter is 28 months and most likely has apraxia (our pediatrician,

>speech therapist, and I think so), but we are awaiting an appointment

>with the Ped Developmental Neurolgist.

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>My daughter tries to speak, but very often with her mouth closed. She

>perfectly imitates the tone, syllables, and emphasis of each word or

>phrase. She can " sing " songs like this -- she has the tune and you can

>hear that she is trying to make sounds for the words, but she does not

>open her mouth, so it sounds like humming. Does anyone else have a

>child that does this? Our speech therapist says she is stumped by it.

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>I am looking for any suggestions.

>Suzanne

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My son talked with a clenched jaw. The SLP used an expander to increase the

muscles in his jaw and oral motor exercises to direct his tongue to

different areas of his mouth. She used the Apraxia for Kids workbook and

Kaufman Kit 1 & 2 with lots of oral motor therapy tools (starburst, chewy

candys, peanut butter on the roof of his mouth, etc).

Have you started supplementing with ProEfa or Coromega? The essential fatty

acids have seemed to increase speech in many children on this board which

has allowed the correction of articulation and language to be corrected once

more expressive speech has been spoken.

Time to Sing cd has slowed down the tempo of many nursery rhyme songs

(Wheels on the Bus, Twinkle Twinkle, etc) and allowed my son to keep up.

Babbling is a good sign b/c most apraxic children have never babbled or

cooed.

All the best,

Joanne

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My son (2 1/2 yrs, dx with very mild PDD - but our SLP and myself

think apraxia instead or also) does this! He doesn't sing, but he

certainly talks. Sometimes he just goes on and on, especially if he is

looking through a book with something that he is really interested in

like numbers. I feel like he is going to burst sometimes! This is

actually something that is fairly recent and I'm hoping that it is a

good sign and that some words will come out soon. He is completely non-

verbal except for babbling words like mama and some letter sounds.

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Dear Suzanne,

My severe oral and verbal 4year old son used to do this a lot when

he was first diagnosed at 2 1/2 years old. He used to make sounds/words

through clenched teeth. He doesn't do it anymore because now he has better

control of his jaw, but I remember his EI speech therapist being so frustrated

because she couldn't figure out why he did this. Anyway good luck, but I

believe

with lot's of speech therapy you will soon see her make sounds and words

with her mouth open just like my son does now! Dana Nj

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We are also using ProEFA - still experimenting with the doseage, but we

have seen some improvement. I also purchased the Time to Sing CD --

she likes to listen to it in the car. I will sing some of the songs to

her and leave off the last word of the line, and she will try to say

the " missing word " .

Let me know how these work for you.

Suzanne

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Suzanne,

My son who is 20 months does the exact same thing! Our speech

therapist says that she has seen it in one other child that she has

treated that ended up having apraxia. We don't have an official

diagnosis yet but our SLP seems to be leaning this way. We are

waiting a little longer becuase he just had tubes put in his ears

and his tongue clipped (tongue tied) a little over a week ago so

hopefully this will help some. We also just started the proefa last

saturday. I am hopeful that it will help. I wasn't sure on the

dose, either,but from the research I did it looks like 1 tab per day

is a good starting point. He does have some real words though not

many and he does make a lot of sounds with his mouth closed. He

also uses the syllable 'ga' for almost everything although he does

mix it up with different intonations and speeds and sometimes its a

statement and others a question. He is a great communicator using

nonverbal, just not many words yet. We are making progress, though,

and that is what I am focusing on. The fact that he finally calls

me " mom " (not mommy or mama,just mom) is enough to get me through

for a while. Let me know how you son is doing.

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Wow, mom at 20 mos--that's fantastic! When you say he is a great

communicator nonverbally, do you mean that he signs, gestures or

mimes? or does he make his needs known in a more literal way? I'm

trying to gauge my son's efforts to communicate.

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> Suzanne,

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> My son who is 20 months does the exact same thing! Our speech

> therapist says that she has seen it in one other child that she

has

> treated that ended up having apraxia. We don't have an official

> diagnosis yet but our SLP seems to be leaning this way. We are

> waiting a little longer becuase he just had tubes put in his ears

> and his tongue clipped (tongue tied) a little over a week ago so

> hopefully this will help some. We also just started the proefa

last

> saturday. I am hopeful that it will help. I wasn't sure on the

> dose, either,but from the research I did it looks like 1 tab per

day

> is a good starting point. He does have some real words though not

> many and he does make a lot of sounds with his mouth closed. He

> also uses the syllable 'ga' for almost everything although he does

> mix it up with different intonations and speeds and sometimes its

a

> statement and others a question. He is a great communicator using

> nonverbal, just not many words yet. We are making progress,

though,

> and that is what I am focusing on. The fact that he finally calls

> me " mom " (not mommy or mama,just mom) is enough to get me through

> for a while. Let me know how you son is doing.

>

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