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Sorry I might end up posting a response to everyone! I don't have the memory to

just make one big post!

Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote:

QUOTE: I had adopted the line " it's just her hearing, nothing else, it

could be worse " , partly to fend off the " I'm so sorry/your poor family " comments

that people tended to make (which enraged me-- we need support, not pity!), and

partly to keep myself

positive about everything. Well, one day I made that comment to a work

colleague, someone I very casually knew. Unbeknownst to me, during my

maternity leave his 11 year old daughter had been diagnosed with

leukemia and her prognosis was poor. His response was, " You're right.

She could be dying like my daughter. "

Kerry - this is exactly why I feel guilty for expressing it at all but I

haven't yet learned how to process these emotions any other way. I usually tend

to only say that in person when it is brought up to me first. Otherwise I stick

to the whole " they're Ok " bit.

QUOTE: Also, a few people have mentioned genetic screening for Connexins and

other genetic causes of hearing loss.

They want to screen for a few specifics since Hannah's eye sight is not 20/20.

However that doesn't tell us much since we both have poor eyesight. But they

are pushing the issue of genetic testing this time around - when it was just

Hannah it was an " option " now its " I'll set up the appt for you! "

I

I wouldn't chose to not have a child because of a hearing loss. I think I've

been wording it wrong. I love my two kiddos and honestly the HL hasn't changed

much in who they are or what they have accomplished - I mean - Hannah is 5 and

she already has this boy who keeps trying to kiss her at school! I think I'm

more concerned about the implications of a genetic link. What kind of link? How

severe? At this point we don't know if the HL is their only issue. Suppose we

find a genetic link that eventually causes more issues? Yes, I could handle

more HOH children -but more severe issues? I just honestly don't know if I

would be strong enough - some people are but I doubt that would be me.

I think I'm just scared about the possibility of NOT having more if that makes

sense. This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason

why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to 7

children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because of what

the genetic testing might show is scary.

Then again - this might be all for naught because we know the genetic testing

may show me nothing!

But this is all in due time but at this point I can't talk to DH or my family

about my concerns for the " future " . They would think I was nuts.

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It is hard to put these feeling into words, and to know how very blessed I

have been to have the girls. I was already pregnant with Holly when was

diagnosed Profoundly hearing impaired. I was very afraid that Holly would be

born hoh also. Maybe it was the unknown, as we where just embarking on the

journey, and had no idea what it would mean to our daughter, or our lives. I

grew to hate very quickly comments like " it could be worse, or at least she

isn't _________. And through the year the one I have hated the most was " God

only gives us what we can handle " . I remember saying to someone one day, well

ok, can we have a talk with God now and let him know I've had enough.

I don't regret a moment of the experiences, the journey and the road we

have gotten to travel because of the girls. I have meet wonderful people, and

learned about something I probably would not have ever known about. I have

learned how strong I am, how to advocate to get everything they have needed

through the years. And have had such joy in watching them accomplish many

things others said they wouldn't, or couldn't.

But all of this aside I am not afraid to say I was scared, sad, and felt a

great loss when both of the girls where diagnosed. There have been moments

through the years when it did seem overwhelming. To make such big choices, to

stay on top of everything they needed, and still need. I had to allow myself to

feel grief, loss and the sadness. To not compare my feelings to other peoples

losses and pains, because they where mine, and they where, and are real.

, Mom of

CI 8/99

Holly CI 12/99

Mandy, Tom, Jes, hearing

RE: Re: TWO HI kids now...what next?

Sorry I might end up posting a response to everyone! I don't have the memory to

just make one big post!

Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote:

QUOTE: I had adopted the line " it's just her hearing, nothing else, it

could be worse " , partly to fend off the " I'm so sorry/your poor family " comments

that people tended to make (which enraged me-- we need support, not pity!), and

partly to keep myself

positive about everything. Well, one day I made that comment to a work

colleague, someone I very casually knew. Unbeknownst to me, during my

maternity leave his 11 year old daughter had been diagnosed with

leukemia and her prognosis was poor. His response was, " You're right.

She could be dying like my daughter. "

Kerry - this is exactly why I feel guilty for expressing it at all but I

haven't yet learned how to process these emotions any other way. I usually tend

to only say that in person when it is brought up to me first. Otherwise I stick

to the whole " they're Ok " bit.

QUOTE: Also, a few people have mentioned genetic screening for Connexins and

other genetic causes of hearing loss.

They want to screen for a few specifics since Hannah's eye sight is not 20/20.

However that doesn't tell us much since we both have poor eyesight. But they

are pushing the issue of genetic testing this time around - when it was just

Hannah it was an " option " now its " I'll set up the appt for you! "

I

I wouldn't chose to not have a child because of a hearing loss. I think I've

been wording it wrong. I love my two kiddos and honestly the HL hasn't changed

much in who they are or what they have accomplished - I mean - Hannah is 5 and

she already has this boy who keeps trying to kiss her at school! I think I'm

more concerned about the implications of a genetic link. What kind of link? How

severe? At this point we don't know if the HL is their only issue. Suppose we

find a genetic link that eventually causes more issues? Yes, I could handle

more HOH children -but more severe issues? I just honestly don't know if I

would be strong enough - some people are but I doubt that would be me.

I think I'm just scared about the possibility of NOT having more if that makes

sense. This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason

why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to 7

children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because of what

the genetic testing might show is scary.

Then again - this might be all for naught because we know the genetic testing

may show me nothing!

But this is all in due time but at this point I can't talk to DH or my family

about my concerns for the " future " . They would think I was nuts.

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In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:32:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,

saraandchadd@... writes:

One question - did they tell you that your hearing wouldn't progress? They

are telling me that they don't think Hannah's will (they do think 's

will - at least to the point where Hannah is) but then I keep hearing stories

about it happening down the line.

..............man do I feel stupid for my post earlier!!!!

Oh I hope you won't put down what you feel-- we all feel what we feel! We

were never told it was progressive, I think it was just a given thing in our

family. For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she

fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf. One of my

brothers was 36 years old and a pole fell on him at work and he woke up two

days later in the hospital with a lot of hearing gone. My other brother is now

losing it gradually, along with my niece. My other sister grew up with a

unilateral loss, gradually became severe and then a few years ago, slipped on a

rug and became profoundly deaf. My mom's hearing began to decline in high

school and then when she was 27, she went to a cookout and all of a sudden

realized that she couldn't hear anyone talking. Her hearing went out, just

like

that.

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In a message dated 5/11/2006 10:51:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,

JillcWood@... writes:

Don't ... that's why this list is so wonderful. You can speak from your

heart and you'll get advice and support. Any concerns and fears are very

valid,

no matter what they are. Even if they suddenly seem small and silly

afterwards.

They were big at the time, and the truth is, many of us have had similar

thoughts at some point.

Ah, there we go, Jill said it so much better!

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This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason

why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to

7 children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because

of what the genetic testing might show is scary.

Sara, doing genetic screening will not test for everything under the

sun. They will choose to test for the mutations known to produce the

symptoms and issues that are relevant to your daughter. When we went

through it 4 years ago, they tested for the Connexins, Waardenburg,

Ushers and one other syndrome that I can't recall. The rest of our evil

mutations remain a mystery!

Kerry

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AVHear2@... wrote: I was very afraid that Holly would be born hoh

also.

This is going to sound strange but do you know I'm actually fearing having a

hearing child!!!!! How crazy is that! A hearing child would be " different " in

our family!

I'm begining to think that this questioning is just my way of processing his

diagnosis. I guess with Hannah I went through the anger and grief so maybe now

I'm into the " what ifs " and " whys " . I don't know - talking it out really helps

though.

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Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote: Sara, doing genetic

screening will not test for everything under the

sun. They will choose to test for the mutations known to produce the

symptoms and issues that are relevant to your daughter. When we went

through it 4 years ago, they tested for the Connexins, Waardenburg,

Ushers and one other syndrome that I can't recall. The rest of our evil

mutations remain a mystery!

I can't tell you how much better that makes me feel!!!!!!!! I kept thinking

that we were going to go in and they were going to tell us something that we had

a 25% chance of having a child with some rare disease!!!! Oh I feel 100 times

better about it now.

Like always Kerry -thank you so much!

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I think they pretty much know that some types of hearing losses are

progressive - I think LVAS is, for example. In our situation, they

don't know *why* our boys our deaf, although it probably is an x-linked

recessive type loss. And based on Tom's CT scan that was done years

ago, they felt it wouldn't be a progressive loss but didn't know for

sure. And his loss did progress to some degree which is why he went

ahead with the implant.

Barbara

Parentsofdeafhoh@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:32:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> saraandchadd@... writes:

>

> One question - did they tell you that your hearing wouldn't progress? They

> are telling me that they don't think Hannah's will (they do think 's

> will - at least to the point where Hannah is) but then I keep hearing stories

> about it happening down the line.

>

> .............man do I feel stupid for my post earlier!!!!

>

>

> Oh I hope you won't put down what you feel-- we all feel what we feel! We

> were never told it was progressive, I think it was just a given thing in our

> family. For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she

> fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf. One of my

> brothers was 36 years old and a pole fell on him at work and he woke up two

> days later in the hospital with a lot of hearing gone. My other brother is

now

> losing it gradually, along with my niece. My other sister grew up with a

> unilateral loss, gradually became severe and then a few years ago, slipped on

a

> rug and became profoundly deaf. My mom's hearing began to decline in high

> school and then when she was 27, she went to a cookout and all of a sudden

> realized that she couldn't hear anyone talking. Her hearing went out, just

like

> that.

>

> Putz

> Illinois Families for Hands & Voices

> _www.handsandvoices.org_ (http://www.handsandvoices.org/)

> _www.ilhandsandvoices.org_ (http://www.ilhandsandvoices.org/)

> Email: support@...

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/12/2006 12:04:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

saraandchadd@... writes:

Wow. So is there a genetic connection or was it a fluke that so much

happened in one family? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many personal questions.

you

can tell me to shut up!

I don't mind the questions at all. :) It's definitely a genetic thing, but

no one seems to be able to figure it out. We did the Gallaudet study, ruled

out Connexin. Ruled out LVAS. So the National Institute of Health flew out

four researchers and we had a party one Saturday and gave blood. :)

Putz

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Parentsofdeafhoh@... wrote:

For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she

fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf.

Wow. So is there a genetic connection or was it a fluke that so much happened

in one family? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many personal questions. you can

tell me to shut up!

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Ok - so they still can't test for all genetic hearing losses but we can pretty

much assume that it is genetic to some degree? And they won't be able to tell me

for sure if it won't progress. So there is a very big chance that we'll come

out of this with more questions than when we went in? Greeeeaaaat.

Barbara Mellert Barbara.T.Mellert@...> wrote: I think they pretty

much know that some types of hearing losses are

progressive - I think LVAS is, for example. In our situation, they

don't know *why* our boys our deaf, although it probably is an x-linked

recessive type loss. And based on Tom's CT scan that was done years

ago, they felt it wouldn't be a progressive loss but didn't know for

sure. And his loss did progress to some degree which is why he went

ahead with the implant.

Barbara

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In a message dated 5/12/2006 1:08:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

saraandchadd@... writes:

So there is a very big chance that we'll come out of this with more

questions than when we went in? Greeeeaaaat.

Or, like us, you'll have a partial answer that doesn't really answer the

" how and why " of the cause or future of his hearing loss.

Ian has a non-genetic syndrome, but I don't believe it answers why Ian's

loss is progressive. It explains the presence of a loss, since the ears and

head

are growing at that time of gestation. But the other " damage " that was done

is the same as it had always been, no better and no worse. So his loss should

be stable. Why is it a progressive loss? Who knows, and after a while, it

didn't really matter anymore. It simply is what it is and whatever happens

will happen in its own time.

Best -- Jill

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